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Realignment

Posted: Wed Sep 11, 2024 10:16 pm
by Prodigal Cat


This could have an impact on the FCS and Montana schools.

Re: Realignment

Posted: Wed Sep 11, 2024 10:23 pm
by MSU01
If this happens the remaining MWC football schools would be Wyoming, Utah State, Air Force, New Mexico, Hawaii, San Jose State, Nevada, and UNLV. Would they decide to just stick with an 8-team league or want to expand? Expansion might be more crucial in other sports since Hawaii is a football only member.

Re: Realignment

Posted: Wed Sep 11, 2024 11:38 pm
by MSUBRONCO
whats the MW going to do??

Re: Realignment

Posted: Wed Sep 11, 2024 11:47 pm
by Prodigal Cat
MSUBRONCO wrote:
Wed Sep 11, 2024 11:38 pm
whats the MW going to do??
Most likely??? Go after UTEP and New Mexico State out of C-USA. It sounds like the MWC would get a pretty big payout from the PAC 2 from taking those teams.

A lessor probability is invite some combination of the Montanas and Dakotas.

Re: Realignment

Posted: Wed Sep 11, 2024 11:50 pm
by MSUBRONCO
Prodigal Cat wrote:
Wed Sep 11, 2024 11:47 pm
MSUBRONCO wrote:
Wed Sep 11, 2024 11:38 pm
whats the MW going to do??
Most likely??? Go after UTEP and New Mexico State out of C-USA. It sounds like the MWC would get a pretty big payout from the PAC 2 from taking those teams.

A lessor probability is invite some combination of the Montanas and Dakotas.
Loo they just take NDSU and SDSU clear path to the championship lol

Re: Realignment

Posted: Thu Sep 12, 2024 12:00 am
by Utcatsfan
Add both Montanas! Us along with UTEP and NMSU would be a good Conference

Re: Realignment

Posted: Thu Sep 12, 2024 7:04 am
by kmax
More than just the MWC possibly adding. The PAC will still need to find two more. Could they convince Cal and Stanford to come back and not have to deal with all that cross country travel? If not then likely two more MWC leaving also eventually. Opens up more chance western FCS teams could be fielding calls from the MWC.

Re: Realignment

Posted: Thu Sep 12, 2024 7:25 am
by canyoncat
If this happens and the MW decides to expand with FCS schools, I bet the Montana and Dakota schools will be left out. Sac State and Davis will get invites quicker. Reason? TV markets are much larger. It won't matter how competitive the programs are or how good the facilities are. We don't have the TV market they probably want.

Re: Realignment

Posted: Thu Sep 12, 2024 7:29 am
by coloradocat
kmax wrote:
Thu Sep 12, 2024 7:04 am
More than just the MWC possibly adding. The PAC will still need to find two more. Could they convince Cal and Stanford to come back and not have to deal with all that cross country travel? If not then likely two more MWC leaving also eventually. Opens up more chance western FCS teams could be fielding calls from the MWC.
It seems like the PAC should be looking at either Utah State or one of the Nevada schools to grab more media markets, even if the teams aren't good. I also wonder if they'll grab NMSU/UTEP out from under the MWC.

As far as getting Cal/Stanford to come back, are those schools locked in to the ACC to the same degree FSU is? If so, they're probably stuck there until all the legal issues get resolved and probably wouldn't want to be associated with a bunch of "state" schools anyway. Their self respect trumps travel.

Re: Realignment

Posted: Thu Sep 12, 2024 7:45 am
by kmax
coloradocat wrote:
Thu Sep 12, 2024 7:29 am
kmax wrote:
Thu Sep 12, 2024 7:04 am
More than just the MWC possibly adding. The PAC will still need to find two more. Could they convince Cal and Stanford to come back and not have to deal with all that cross country travel? If not then likely two more MWC leaving also eventually. Opens up more chance western FCS teams could be fielding calls from the MWC.
It seems like the PAC should be looking at either Utah State or one of the Nevada schools to grab more media markets, even if the teams aren't good. I also wonder if they'll grab NMSU/UTEP out from under the MWC.

As far as getting Cal/Stanford to come back, are those schools locked in to the ACC to the same degree FSU is? If so, they're probably stuck there until all the legal issues get resolved and probably wouldn't want to be associated with a bunch of "state" schools anyway. Their self respect trumps travel.
Agree I think it unlikely that Cal and Stanford switch back but I have to think that is the hope. Only reason that I can think that this is only taking the PAC to 6 and not immediately pulling in Utah State and UNLV also.

Re: Realignment

Posted: Thu Sep 12, 2024 7:50 am
by Prodigal Cat
kmax wrote:
Thu Sep 12, 2024 7:45 am
coloradocat wrote:
Thu Sep 12, 2024 7:29 am
kmax wrote:
Thu Sep 12, 2024 7:04 am
More than just the MWC possibly adding. The PAC will still need to find two more. Could they convince Cal and Stanford to come back and not have to deal with all that cross country travel? If not then likely two more MWC leaving also eventually. Opens up more chance western FCS teams could be fielding calls from the MWC.
It seems like the PAC should be looking at either Utah State or one of the Nevada schools to grab more media markets, even if the teams aren't good. I also wonder if they'll grab NMSU/UTEP out from under the MWC.

As far as getting Cal/Stanford to come back, are those schools locked in to the ACC to the same degree FSU is? If so, they're probably stuck there until all the legal issues get resolved and probably wouldn't want to be associated with a bunch of "state" schools anyway. Their self respect trumps travel.
Agree I think it unlikely that Cal and Stanford switch back but I have to think that is the hope. Only reason that I can think that this is only taking the PAC to 6 and not immediately pulling in Utah State and UNLV also.
Not including UNLV is the head scratcher. I know that the program isn't the most competitive but you would think they would want the Vegas market.

Re: Realignment

Posted: Thu Sep 12, 2024 7:52 am
by RockyBearCat

Re: Realignment

Posted: Thu Sep 12, 2024 7:53 am
by Cataholic
kmax wrote:
Thu Sep 12, 2024 7:45 am
coloradocat wrote:
Thu Sep 12, 2024 7:29 am
kmax wrote:
Thu Sep 12, 2024 7:04 am
More than just the MWC possibly adding. The PAC will still need to find two more. Could they convince Cal and Stanford to come back and not have to deal with all that cross country travel? If not then likely two more MWC leaving also eventually. Opens up more chance western FCS teams could be fielding calls from the MWC.
It seems like the PAC should be looking at either Utah State or one of the Nevada schools to grab more media markets, even if the teams aren't good. I also wonder if they'll grab NMSU/UTEP out from under the MWC.

As far as getting Cal/Stanford to come back, are those schools locked in to the ACC to the same degree FSU is? If so, they're probably stuck there until all the legal issues get resolved and probably wouldn't want to be associated with a bunch of "state" schools anyway. Their self respect trumps travel.
Agree I think it unlikely that Cal and Stanford switch back but I have to think that is the hope. Only reason that I can think that this is only taking the PAC to 6 and not immediately pulling in Utah State and UNLV also.
Agree on your thoughts above. I would add Nevada to that list as well as that market is growing and it brings a state rivalry in as well. That would bring the total to 9 allowing for an 8 game conference schedule.

Re: Realignment

Posted: Thu Sep 12, 2024 8:05 am
by coloradocat
Prodigal Cat wrote:
Thu Sep 12, 2024 7:50 am
kmax wrote:
Thu Sep 12, 2024 7:45 am
coloradocat wrote:
Thu Sep 12, 2024 7:29 am
kmax wrote:
Thu Sep 12, 2024 7:04 am
More than just the MWC possibly adding. The PAC will still need to find two more. Could they convince Cal and Stanford to come back and not have to deal with all that cross country travel? If not then likely two more MWC leaving also eventually. Opens up more chance western FCS teams could be fielding calls from the MWC.
It seems like the PAC should be looking at either Utah State or one of the Nevada schools to grab more media markets, even if the teams aren't good. I also wonder if they'll grab NMSU/UTEP out from under the MWC.

As far as getting Cal/Stanford to come back, are those schools locked in to the ACC to the same degree FSU is? If so, they're probably stuck there until all the legal issues get resolved and probably wouldn't want to be associated with a bunch of "state" schools anyway. Their self respect trumps travel.
Agree I think it unlikely that Cal and Stanford switch back but I have to think that is the hope. Only reason that I can think that this is only taking the PAC to 6 and not immediately pulling in Utah State and UNLV also.
Not including UNLV is the head scratcher. I know that the program isn't the most competitive but you would think they would want the Vegas market.
UNLV and UNR may be a package deal like MSU and Missoula. It would be worth it to take both of them but maybe they just needed more time to iron that out.

Re: Realignment

Posted: Thu Sep 12, 2024 8:06 am
by kmax
RockyBearCat wrote:
Thu Sep 12, 2024 7:52 am
PAC12 expansion is confirmed.

https://pac-12.com/news/2024/9/12/gener ... ities.aspx
“Welcoming four respected academic…” We talkin about the same Boise State here?

Re: Realignment

Posted: Thu Sep 12, 2024 8:21 am
by AFCAT
Man, there hasn’t been a move up thread since July 1st. What took so long?

Re: Realignment

Posted: Thu Sep 12, 2024 8:21 am
by catgrad05
RockyBearCat wrote:
Thu Sep 12, 2024 7:52 am
PAC12 expansion is confirmed.

https://pac-12.com/news/2024/9/12/gener ... ities.aspx

I like how it says the conference board of directors was unanimous. Would that be the two presidents? If two people didn’t agree that would be an issue lol

Re: Realignment

Posted: Thu Sep 12, 2024 8:30 am
by Prodigal Cat
AFCAT wrote:
Thu Sep 12, 2024 8:21 am
Man, there hasn’t been a move up thread since July 1st. What took so long?
Man give it a rest. Everyone here know that if it were up to you the Cats would still be NAIA, playing in Reno H. Sales and getting its butt kicked every year by the griz. This isn't a "we should move up" thread. This is significant news that has a real possibility of changing the landscape of where the Montana schools call their conference home.

Re: Realignment

Posted: Thu Sep 12, 2024 8:33 am
by BleedingBLue
Prodigal Cat wrote:
Thu Sep 12, 2024 8:30 am
AFCAT wrote:
Thu Sep 12, 2024 8:21 am
Man, there hasn’t been a move up thread since July 1st. What took so long?
Man give it a rest. Everyone here know that if it were up to you the Cats would still be NAIA, playing in Reno H. Sales and getting its butt kicked every year by the griz. This isn't a "we should move up" thread. This is significant news that has a real possibility of changing the landscape of where the Montana schools call their conference home.
Exaggerate much :lol:

Re: Realignment

Posted: Thu Sep 12, 2024 9:28 am
by coloradocat
BleedingBLue wrote:
Thu Sep 12, 2024 8:33 am
Prodigal Cat wrote:
Thu Sep 12, 2024 8:30 am
AFCAT wrote:
Thu Sep 12, 2024 8:21 am
Man, there hasn’t been a move up thread since July 1st. What took so long?
Man give it a rest. Everyone here know that if it were up to you the Cats would still be NAIA, playing in Reno H. Sales and getting its butt kicked every year by the griz. This isn't a "we should move up" thread. This is significant news that has a real possibility of changing the landscape of where the Montana schools call their conference home.
Exaggerate much :lol:
Eh, I'd say exaggerate a little. AFCAT does like to Grampa Simpson this topic. :)