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Re: Wayyyyyy too early 2024 predictions

Post by TomCat88 » Sun Feb 04, 2024 12:50 pm

catatac wrote:
Sun Feb 04, 2024 12:20 pm
TomCat88 wrote:
Sun Feb 04, 2024 8:53 am
tetoncat wrote:
Sat Feb 03, 2024 1:54 pm
TomCat88 wrote:
Thu Feb 01, 2024 10:34 am
tetoncat wrote:
Thu Feb 01, 2024 8:38 am
TomCat88 wrote:
Wed Jan 31, 2024 9:14 pm
tetoncat wrote:
Wed Jan 31, 2024 7:13 pm
TomCat88 wrote:
Wed Jan 31, 2024 5:26 pm
gtapp wrote:
Wed Jan 31, 2024 2:16 pm
If we find a good kicker then 10-2. If we don't then 8-4.
MSU was 0-2 in games decided by 3 or less. 8-1 in games decided by 12 points or more and smoked once. I think MSU needs to find a kicker but I doubt it has more than two games where the kicker might be a significant factor in 2024.
10-2 to 8-4 is 2 games?
12-0 to 10-2 is two games.
So your arguing GTAPPs starting position and not the affect of a kicker.
Not arguing with him. I just don’t think MSU is going to have very many close games so I don’t think placekicks will be a factor but I agree that it’s good to have a good placekicker because there will probably be a random one. Nmsu is a wild card but I don’t think MSU will have many games decided by less than 14 points.
Kind of like 2023. But interesting close games we had, SDSU, Idaho, and NDSU kicker made a difference.
Unlike 2023. Based on the schedule and how good the Bobcats look, I’ll be surprised if MSU is in any games that the kicker is relied on to win or tie the game.
Hmmm, I certainly hope that's the case but I'm put money down we'll have at least on nail biter... especially in the playoffs.
I have MSU going 12-0/11-1, 1 or 2 seed and I don’t think the Bobcats will see a stiff challenge.


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Re: Wayyyyyy too early 2024 predictions

Post by tetoncat » Sun Feb 04, 2024 3:29 pm

TomCat88 wrote:
Sun Feb 04, 2024 12:50 pm
catatac wrote:
Sun Feb 04, 2024 12:20 pm
TomCat88 wrote:
Sun Feb 04, 2024 8:53 am
tetoncat wrote:
Sat Feb 03, 2024 1:54 pm
TomCat88 wrote:
Thu Feb 01, 2024 10:34 am
tetoncat wrote:
Thu Feb 01, 2024 8:38 am
TomCat88 wrote:
Wed Jan 31, 2024 9:14 pm
tetoncat wrote:
Wed Jan 31, 2024 7:13 pm
TomCat88 wrote:
Wed Jan 31, 2024 5:26 pm
gtapp wrote:
Wed Jan 31, 2024 2:16 pm
If we find a good kicker then 10-2. If we don't then 8-4.
MSU was 0-2 in games decided by 3 or less. 8-1 in games decided by 12 points or more and smoked once. I think MSU needs to find a kicker but I doubt it has more than two games where the kicker might be a significant factor in 2024.
10-2 to 8-4 is 2 games?
12-0 to 10-2 is two games.
So your arguing GTAPPs starting position and not the affect of a kicker.
Not arguing with him. I just don’t think MSU is going to have very many close games so I don’t think placekicks will be a factor but I agree that it’s good to have a good placekicker because there will probably be a random one. Nmsu is a wild card but I don’t think MSU will have many games decided by less than 14 points.
Kind of like 2023. But interesting close games we had, SDSU, Idaho, and NDSU kicker made a difference.
Unlike 2023. Based on the schedule and how good the Bobcats look, I’ll be surprised if MSU is in any games that the kicker is relied on to win or tie the game.
Hmmm, I certainly hope that's the case but I'm put money down we'll have at least on nail biter... especially in the playoffs.
I have MSU going 12-0/11-1, 1 or 2 seed and I don’t think the Bobcats will see a stiff challenge.
I like your confidence but I still think there is always a sleeper in big sky so think we have at least 3 close games.


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Re: Wayyyyyy too early 2024 predictions

Post by D-Wreck » Sun Feb 04, 2024 5:28 pm

tetoncat wrote:
Sun Feb 04, 2024 3:29 pm
TomCat88 wrote:
Sun Feb 04, 2024 12:50 pm
catatac wrote:
Sun Feb 04, 2024 12:20 pm
TomCat88 wrote:
Sun Feb 04, 2024 8:53 am
tetoncat wrote:
Sat Feb 03, 2024 1:54 pm
TomCat88 wrote:
Thu Feb 01, 2024 10:34 am
tetoncat wrote:
Thu Feb 01, 2024 8:38 am
TomCat88 wrote:
Wed Jan 31, 2024 9:14 pm
tetoncat wrote:
Wed Jan 31, 2024 7:13 pm
TomCat88 wrote:
Wed Jan 31, 2024 5:26 pm


MSU was 0-2 in games decided by 3 or less. 8-1 in games decided by 12 points or more and smoked once. I think MSU needs to find a kicker but I doubt it has more than two games where the kicker might be a significant factor in 2024.
10-2 to 8-4 is 2 games?
12-0 to 10-2 is two games.
So your arguing GTAPPs starting position and not the affect of a kicker.
Not arguing with him. I just don’t think MSU is going to have very many close games so I don’t think placekicks will be a factor but I agree that it’s good to have a good placekicker because there will probably be a random one. Nmsu is a wild card but I don’t think MSU will have many games decided by less than 14 points.
Kind of like 2023. But interesting close games we had, SDSU, Idaho, and NDSU kicker made a difference.
Unlike 2023. Based on the schedule and how good the Bobcats look, I’ll be surprised if MSU is in any games that the kicker is relied on to win or tie the game.
Hmmm, I certainly hope that's the case but I'm put money down we'll have at least on nail biter... especially in the playoffs.
I have MSU going 12-0/11-1, 1 or 2 seed and I don’t think the Bobcats will see a stiff challenge.
I like your confidence but I still think there is always a sleeper in big sky so think we have at least 3 close games.
I feel like MSU could have a roster that would go 17-0 in the NFL and for at least one game the Cardiac Cats would be the team that shows up.



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Re: Wayyyyyy too early 2024 predictions

Post by TomCat88 » Sun Feb 04, 2024 6:39 pm

tetoncat wrote:
Sun Feb 04, 2024 3:29 pm
TomCat88 wrote:
Sun Feb 04, 2024 12:50 pm
catatac wrote:
Sun Feb 04, 2024 12:20 pm
TomCat88 wrote:
Sun Feb 04, 2024 8:53 am
tetoncat wrote:
Sat Feb 03, 2024 1:54 pm
TomCat88 wrote:
Thu Feb 01, 2024 10:34 am
tetoncat wrote:
Thu Feb 01, 2024 8:38 am
TomCat88 wrote:
Wed Jan 31, 2024 9:14 pm
tetoncat wrote:
Wed Jan 31, 2024 7:13 pm
TomCat88 wrote:
Wed Jan 31, 2024 5:26 pm


MSU was 0-2 in games decided by 3 or less. 8-1 in games decided by 12 points or more and smoked once. I think MSU needs to find a kicker but I doubt it has more than two games where the kicker might be a significant factor in 2024.
10-2 to 8-4 is 2 games?
12-0 to 10-2 is two games.
So your arguing GTAPPs starting position and not the affect of a kicker.
Not arguing with him. I just don’t think MSU is going to have very many close games so I don’t think placekicks will be a factor but I agree that it’s good to have a good placekicker because there will probably be a random one. Nmsu is a wild card but I don’t think MSU will have many games decided by less than 14 points.
Kind of like 2023. But interesting close games we had, SDSU, Idaho, and NDSU kicker made a difference.
Unlike 2023. Based on the schedule and how good the Bobcats look, I’ll be surprised if MSU is in any games that the kicker is relied on to win or tie the game.
Hmmm, I certainly hope that's the case but I'm put money down we'll have at least on nail biter... especially in the playoffs.
I have MSU going 12-0/11-1, 1 or 2 seed and I don’t think the Bobcats will see a stiff challenge.
I like your confidence but I still think there is always a sleeper in big sky so think we have at least 3 close games.
Not confidence. Just my objective take. I think MSU has the best team on n the FCS and it has a favorable schedule.


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Re: Wayyyyyy too early 2024 predictions

Post by catatac » Mon Feb 05, 2024 12:11 pm

TomCat88 wrote:
Sun Feb 04, 2024 6:39 pm
tetoncat wrote:
Sun Feb 04, 2024 3:29 pm
TomCat88 wrote:
Sun Feb 04, 2024 12:50 pm
catatac wrote:
Sun Feb 04, 2024 12:20 pm
TomCat88 wrote:
Sun Feb 04, 2024 8:53 am
tetoncat wrote:
Sat Feb 03, 2024 1:54 pm
TomCat88 wrote:
Thu Feb 01, 2024 10:34 am
tetoncat wrote:
Thu Feb 01, 2024 8:38 am
TomCat88 wrote:
Wed Jan 31, 2024 9:14 pm
tetoncat wrote:
Wed Jan 31, 2024 7:13 pm


10-2 to 8-4 is 2 games?
12-0 to 10-2 is two games.
So your arguing GTAPPs starting position and not the affect of a kicker.
Not arguing with him. I just don’t think MSU is going to have very many close games so I don’t think placekicks will be a factor but I agree that it’s good to have a good placekicker because there will probably be a random one. Nmsu is a wild card but I don’t think MSU will have many games decided by less than 14 points.
Kind of like 2023. But interesting close games we had, SDSU, Idaho, and NDSU kicker made a difference.
Unlike 2023. Based on the schedule and how good the Bobcats look, I’ll be surprised if MSU is in any games that the kicker is relied on to win or tie the game.
Hmmm, I certainly hope that's the case but I'm put money down we'll have at least on nail biter... especially in the playoffs.
I have MSU going 12-0/11-1, 1 or 2 seed and I don’t think the Bobcats will see a stiff challenge.
I like your confidence but I still think there is always a sleeper in big sky so think we have at least 3 close games.
Not confidence. Just my objective take. I think MSU has the best team on n the FCS and it has a favorable schedule.
I completely agree with you on this, and that's been my take all along as we look at the FCS landscape in 2024. We only disagree in that I think we'll have a close game or two because I don't think in the history of college football..... even the best teams\seasons of all time had games throughout the season that were fairly close. I'm not going to look it up but maybe someone wants to! :)


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Re: Wayyyyyy too early 2024 predictions

Post by TomCat88 » Mon Feb 05, 2024 5:05 pm

catatac wrote:
Mon Feb 05, 2024 12:11 pm
TomCat88 wrote:
Sun Feb 04, 2024 6:39 pm
tetoncat wrote:
Sun Feb 04, 2024 3:29 pm
TomCat88 wrote:
Sun Feb 04, 2024 12:50 pm
catatac wrote:
Sun Feb 04, 2024 12:20 pm
TomCat88 wrote:
Sun Feb 04, 2024 8:53 am
tetoncat wrote:
Sat Feb 03, 2024 1:54 pm
TomCat88 wrote:
Thu Feb 01, 2024 10:34 am
tetoncat wrote:
Thu Feb 01, 2024 8:38 am
TomCat88 wrote:
Wed Jan 31, 2024 9:14 pm


12-0 to 10-2 is two games.
So your arguing GTAPPs starting position and not the affect of a kicker.
Not arguing with him. I just don’t think MSU is going to have very many close games so I don’t think placekicks will be a factor but I agree that it’s good to have a good placekicker because there will probably be a random one. Nmsu is a wild card but I don’t think MSU will have many games decided by less than 14 points.
Kind of like 2023. But interesting close games we had, SDSU, Idaho, and NDSU kicker made a difference.
Unlike 2023. Based on the schedule and how good the Bobcats look, I’ll be surprised if MSU is in any games that the kicker is relied on to win or tie the game.
Hmmm, I certainly hope that's the case but I'm put money down we'll have at least on nail biter... especially in the playoffs.
I have MSU going 12-0/11-1, 1 or 2 seed and I don’t think the Bobcats will see a stiff challenge.
I like your confidence but I still think there is always a sleeper in big sky so think we have at least 3 close games.
Not confidence. Just my objective take. I think MSU has the best team on n the FCS and it has a favorable schedule.
I completely agree with you on this, and that's been my take all along as we look at the FCS landscape in 2024. We only disagree in that I think we'll have a close game or two because I don't think in the history of college football..... even the best teams\seasons of all time had games throughout the season that were fairly close. I'm not going to look it up but maybe someone wants to! :)
SDSU last year is one. It’s good to have a good kicker.


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Re: Wayyyyyy too early 2024 predictions

Post by Utcatsfan » Mon Feb 05, 2024 5:27 pm

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I think its a bit presumptuous to assume ONLY MSU and um can win the BSC next season. Sac St did show some life at the end of the season. Next year they have to come to Bozeman but avoid the gris and get Davis at home. The other road games are Cal Poly, Idaho St and NAU and they have a couple winnable MWC games in the nonconference.

Weber St finally improved when they made the switch at QB last year but the losses on Defense and the O-line will be tough to replace. Idaho will be a huge ??? In my mind though the most interesting team outside of the Treasure St is ISU. If they are able to get better in the trenches they will be a real blister to some teams next season.
100% agree on this, we can't just assume we will be the best or top 2 team in the Big Sky, in particular ISU interests me as they played close with a few teams, they improve on the Line and on Defense they may surprise some people.

Also those who think our season is over if we don't beat New Mexico need to calm down, 1st game of the year is where mistakes happen and teams more often then not find their feet. I'd rather lose to UNM Week 1 if it meant we improved and peaked for the Playoffs.



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Re: Wayyyyyy too early 2024 predictions

Post by catatac » Mon Feb 05, 2024 5:35 pm

TomCat88 wrote:
Mon Feb 05, 2024 5:05 pm
catatac wrote:
Mon Feb 05, 2024 12:11 pm
TomCat88 wrote:
Sun Feb 04, 2024 6:39 pm
tetoncat wrote:
Sun Feb 04, 2024 3:29 pm
TomCat88 wrote:
Sun Feb 04, 2024 12:50 pm
catatac wrote:
Sun Feb 04, 2024 12:20 pm
TomCat88 wrote:
Sun Feb 04, 2024 8:53 am
tetoncat wrote:
Sat Feb 03, 2024 1:54 pm
TomCat88 wrote:
Thu Feb 01, 2024 10:34 am
tetoncat wrote:
Thu Feb 01, 2024 8:38 am


So your arguing GTAPPs starting position and not the affect of a kicker.
Not arguing with him. I just don’t think MSU is going to have very many close games so I don’t think placekicks will be a factor but I agree that it’s good to have a good placekicker because there will probably be a random one. Nmsu is a wild card but I don’t think MSU will have many games decided by less than 14 points.
Kind of like 2023. But interesting close games we had, SDSU, Idaho, and NDSU kicker made a difference.
Unlike 2023. Based on the schedule and how good the Bobcats look, I’ll be surprised if MSU is in any games that the kicker is relied on to win or tie the game.
Hmmm, I certainly hope that's the case but I'm put money down we'll have at least on nail biter... especially in the playoffs.
I have MSU going 12-0/11-1, 1 or 2 seed and I don’t think the Bobcats will see a stiff challenge.
I like your confidence but I still think there is always a sleeper in big sky so think we have at least 3 close games.
Not confidence. Just my objective take. I think MSU has the best team on n the FCS and it has a favorable schedule.
I completely agree with you on this, and that's been my take all along as we look at the FCS landscape in 2024. We only disagree in that I think we'll have a close game or two because I don't think in the history of college football..... even the best teams\seasons of all time had games throughout the season that were fairly close. I'm not going to look it up but maybe someone wants to! :)
SDSU last year is one. It’s good to have a good kicker.
Maybe I'm lost in terms of what the point being made here is. You mentioned above that the Cats are going to clearly be the best team in the FCS in 2024, and I agree with that. You also said the Cats won't see a stiff challenge, which is the part I disagree with. So then I mentioned that even the best seasons of all time where teams go undefeated... usually have a close game or two along the way. As for SDSU, not sure if you could say they didn't face a stiff challenge. The Cats damn near beat them and ended up being a four point game. I think they won one other game by 7 points.


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Re: Wayyyyyy too early 2024 predictions

Post by TomCat88 » Mon Feb 05, 2024 6:16 pm

catatac wrote:
Mon Feb 05, 2024 5:35 pm
TomCat88 wrote:
Mon Feb 05, 2024 5:05 pm
catatac wrote:
Mon Feb 05, 2024 12:11 pm
TomCat88 wrote:
Sun Feb 04, 2024 6:39 pm
tetoncat wrote:
Sun Feb 04, 2024 3:29 pm
TomCat88 wrote:
Sun Feb 04, 2024 12:50 pm
catatac wrote:
Sun Feb 04, 2024 12:20 pm
TomCat88 wrote:
Sun Feb 04, 2024 8:53 am
tetoncat wrote:
Sat Feb 03, 2024 1:54 pm
TomCat88 wrote:
Thu Feb 01, 2024 10:34 am


Not arguing with him. I just don’t think MSU is going to have very many close games so I don’t think placekicks will be a factor but I agree that it’s good to have a good placekicker because there will probably be a random one. Nmsu is a wild card but I don’t think MSU will have many games decided by less than 14 points.
Kind of like 2023. But interesting close games we had, SDSU, Idaho, and NDSU kicker made a difference.
Unlike 2023. Based on the schedule and how good the Bobcats look, I’ll be surprised if MSU is in any games that the kicker is relied on to win or tie the game.
Hmmm, I certainly hope that's the case but I'm put money down we'll have at least on nail biter... especially in the playoffs.
I have MSU going 12-0/11-1, 1 or 2 seed and I don’t think the Bobcats will see a stiff challenge.
I like your confidence but I still think there is always a sleeper in big sky so think we have at least 3 close games.
Not confidence. Just my objective take. I think MSU has the best team on n the FCS and it has a favorable schedule.
I completely agree with you on this, and that's been my take all along as we look at the FCS landscape in 2024. We only disagree in that I think we'll have a close game or two because I don't think in the history of college football..... even the best teams\seasons of all time had games throughout the season that were fairly close. I'm not going to look it up but maybe someone wants to! :)
SDSU last year is one. It’s good to have a good kicker.
Maybe I'm lost in terms of what the point being made here is. You mentioned above that the Cats are going to clearly be the best team in the FCS in 2024, and I agree with that. You also said the Cats won't see a stiff challenge, which is the part I disagree with. So then I mentioned that even the best seasons of all time where teams go undefeated... usually have a close game or two along the way. As for SDSU, not sure if you could say they didn't face a stiff challenge. The Cats damn near beat them and ended up being a four point game. I think they won one other game by 7 points.
None of SDSU’s games came down to a fg or xp.

My points are often so simple that they get overlooked. :lol:


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Re: Wayyyyyy too early 2024 predictions

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Re: Wayyyyyy too early 2024 predictions

Post by 84CatGrad » Sun Apr 14, 2024 11:33 am

I predict that my wife and I will be at the New Mexico game then spend a week wandering through Santa Fe, Durango CO, the Grand Canyon north rim, and then to St George, where I will watch the 'Cats whoop Utah Tech. Will fly home with my team 2-0 ready for the Gold Rush game.



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Re: Wayyyyyy too early 2024 predictions

Post by Montanabob » Sun Apr 14, 2024 1:01 pm

84CatGrad wrote:
Sun Apr 14, 2024 11:33 am
I predict that my wife and I will be at the New Mexico game then spend a week wandering through Santa Fe, Durango CO, the Grand Canyon north rim, and then to St George, where I will watch the 'Cats whoop Utah Tech. Will fly home with my team 2-0 ready for the Gold Rush game.
for me, the New Mexico game is the closest game for me since 2015. 25 miles. Lobos will start next fall with a new head coach so hoping we drop em. i'm going on vacation for a week to wander to St George for us going 2-0.


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