Major Givens Commits

[profisme]

Reading about Major, reminds me of when we signed Infanse. That has worked out pretty well for us!

A little bit maybe. Ifanse averaged 10.1 ypc in high school. Givens is at 5.5. Could be due to several factors, but I don’t think he’s another Ifanse at this point. I don’t like the amount of carries Givens had last year. That’s a lot of wear and tear.

Pretty sure Shawn Johnson also averaged over 10 ypc his senior year of HS. I like Givens makeup. He is patient, waits for his blocks to develop and then accelerates. That is often something that has to be learned at the collegiate level, if ever. Looks like a great addition.

[TomCat88]

Reading about Major, reminds me of when we signed Infanse. That has worked out pretty well for us!

A little bit maybe. Ifanse averaged 10.1 ypc in high school. Givens is at 5.5. Could be due to several factors, but I don’t think he’s another Ifanse at this point. I don’t like the amount of carries Givens had last year. That’s a lot of wear and tear.

Pretty sure Shawn Johnson also averaged over 10 ypc his senior year of HS. I like Givens makeup. He is patient, waits for his blocks to develop and then accelerates. That is often something that has to be learned at the collegiate level, if ever. Looks like a great addition.

Johnson averaged over 10 ypc his senior year. He was an All America returner as a junior and averaged 6.7 ypc his senior year at MSU. He ran for over 1,400 yards and averaged over 6 ypc for his career despite playing behind Cody Kirk his sophomore and junior years.

Nick LaSane averaged around 8 ypc. Brekke 7.4 ypc.

Typically, good running backs average a lot in high school. It’s nothing set in stone because it somewhat depends on the system and the players around them.

Givens team ran him a ton last year. 25 carries per game on average. Considering 12 minute quarters that works out to 30+ in a college game. So high school teams have been keying on him.

[CelticCat]

Givens got some love at the ESPN 300 Elite Underclassmen Camp:

https://247sports.com/Article/Top-Perfo ... 187861713/

NEXT FIVE OFFENSE

Major Givens, RB, Spring Valley (Calif.) Steele Canyon

Givens is a player we've liked at a number of camps this spring, and he plays with great energy and takes as many reps as he can. In the 1on1s with the linebackers, he showed a suddenness and elusiveness in cutting, leaving a linebacker lunging then effortlessly reeling the pass in. He's well put together but with room to add some muscle. All three service academies have offered and so has FCS runner-up Montana State among others.

[AFCAT]

https://twitter.com/SDPrepInsider/statu ... 4205819904

[mslacatfan]

This guy looks nuts!

https://twitter.com/kusippr/status/1560 ... XTelSxdmjQ

[tetoncat]

Speed. But also strength to break those tackles

[TomCat88]

11-224-3

That’ll bump up his average.

20 yards a pop.

[91catAlum]

This guy looks nuts!

https://twitter.com/kusippr/status/1560 ... XTelSxdmjQ

Damn, he looks fast as hell!

[RockyBearCat]

can't wait to see him in Blue and Gold. Great speed and power.

[AFCAT]

Decommitted.

https://twitter.com/MajorGivens2/status ... 8406047745

[mslacatfan]

Decommitted.

https://twitter.com/MajorGivens2/status ... 8406047745

Well that’s a bummer

[BelligerentBobcat]

Most likely the reason they took another RB commit.

[tetoncat]

Or the new RB commit was reason he decommited

[Camo_Cat]

When it comes to recruiting RBs, you have to wonder sometimes if our current "running QB" offense doesn't turn some these potential recruits off. Especially when we have two "running QBs". This young man clearly looks like a stud, and if I were him, I'm thinking I want to be in an offense that showcases my skills. I want to carry the rock 20-25 times a game, maybe more.

Does the thought of being used as a blocker instead of a ball carrier, potentially the majority of snaps, make some these RB studs look at MSU and decide to go in a different direction? I realize that we know it's a little different since we are in-tune with the program, and we know how the offense looks and works. But for a young man who is from the outside looking in, maybe all they see is the highlights of Tommy and Sean running and scoring most of the TDs, and that doesn't look appealing for a running back.

Just spit balling....

[BelligerentBobcat]

When it comes to recruiting RBs, you have to wonder sometimes if our current "running QB" offense doesn't turn some these potential recruits off. Especially when we have two "running QBs". This young man clearly looks like a stud, and if I were him, I'm thinking I want to be in an offense that showcases my skills. I want to carry the rock 20-25 times a game, maybe more.

Does the thought of being used as a blocker instead of a ball carrier, potentially the majority of snaps, make some these RB studs look at MSU and decide to go in a different direction? I realize that we know it's a little different since we are in-tune with the program, and we know how the offense looks and works. But for a young man who is from the outside looking in, maybe all they see is the highlights of Tommy and Sean running and scoring most of the TDs, and that doesn't look appealing for a running back.

Just spit balling....

In the games where we’ve been able to use the RB’s normally without worry for injury the lead back has averaged 18.5 carries per game. Usage is not an issue.

[Camo_Cat]

When it comes to recruiting RBs, you have to wonder sometimes if our current "running QB" offense doesn't turn some these potential recruits off. Especially when we have two "running QBs". This young man clearly looks like a stud, and if I were him, I'm thinking I want to be in an offense that showcases my skills. I want to carry the rock 20-25 times a game, maybe more.

Does the thought of being used as a blocker instead of a ball carrier, potentially the majority of snaps, make some these RB studs look at MSU and decide to go in a different direction? I realize that we know it's a little different since we are in-tune with the program, and we know how the offense looks and works. But for a young man who is from the outside looking in, maybe all they see is the highlights of Tommy and Sean running and scoring most of the TDs, and that doesn't look appealing for a running back.

Just spit balling....

In the games where we’ve been able to use the RB’s normally without worry for injury the lead back has averaged 18.5 carries per game. Usage is not an issue.

That's my point, though. We know that because we're fans. Rabid fans, so we know. But if you're someone on the outside, all you see is Tommy and Sean running and scoring, so the perspective is that we are a running QB offense...

[kennethnoisewater]

When it comes to recruiting RBs, you have to wonder sometimes if our current "running QB" offense doesn't turn some these potential recruits off. Especially when we have two "running QBs". This young man clearly looks like a stud, and if I were him, I'm thinking I want to be in an offense that showcases my skills. I want to carry the rock 20-25 times a game, maybe more.

Does the thought of being used as a blocker instead of a ball carrier, potentially the majority of snaps, make some these RB studs look at MSU and decide to go in a different direction? I realize that we know it's a little different since we are in-tune with the program, and we know how the offense looks and works. But for a young man who is from the outside looking in, maybe all they see is the highlights of Tommy and Sean running and scoring most of the TDs, and that doesn't look appealing for a running back.

Just spit balling....

In the games where we’ve been able to use the RB’s normally without worry for injury the lead back has averaged 18.5 carries per game. Usage is not an issue.

That's my point, though. We know that because we're fans. Rabid fans, so we know. But if you're someone on the outside, all you see is Tommy and Sean running and scoring, so the perspective is that we are a running QB offense...

Yeah I get it, but these guys are having lots of conversations with coaches and they're not just making a decision based off looking at a few box scores. Just last season we were all concerned at the overuse of Ifanse. You don't have to look far to see MSU will give a worthy RB plenty of touches.

[coloradocat]

When it comes to recruiting RBs, you have to wonder sometimes if our current "running QB" offense doesn't turn some these potential recruits off. Especially when we have two "running QBs". This young man clearly looks like a stud, and if I were him, I'm thinking I want to be in an offense that showcases my skills. I want to carry the rock 20-25 times a game, maybe more.

Does the thought of being used as a blocker instead of a ball carrier, potentially the majority of snaps, make some these RB studs look at MSU and decide to go in a different direction? I realize that we know it's a little different since we are in-tune with the program, and we know how the offense looks and works. But for a young man who is from the outside looking in, maybe all they see is the highlights of Tommy and Sean running and scoring most of the TDs, and that doesn't look appealing for a running back.

Just spit balling....

In the games where we’ve been able to use the RB’s normally without worry for injury the lead back has averaged 18.5 carries per game. Usage is not an issue.

That's my point, though. We know that because we're fans. Rabid fans, so we know. But if you're someone on the outside, all you see is Tommy and Sean running and scoring, so the perspective is that we are a running QB offense...

Yeah I get it, but these guys are having lots of conversations with coaches and they're not just making a decision based off looking at a few box scores. Just last season we were all concerned at the overuse of Ifanse. You don't have to look far to see MSU will give a worthy RB plenty of touches.

The coaches can definitely explain how we're running our offense this year and point to the fact that the RBs are still used a ton (when healthy). It might be a little harder to ease their concerns about the fact that only 1 of our 21 rushing TDs was scored by a running back.

[BelligerentBobcat]

When it comes to recruiting RBs, you have to wonder sometimes if our current "running QB" offense doesn't turn some these potential recruits off. Especially when we have two "running QBs". This young man clearly looks like a stud, and if I were him, I'm thinking I want to be in an offense that showcases my skills. I want to carry the rock 20-25 times a game, maybe more.

Does the thought of being used as a blocker instead of a ball carrier, potentially the majority of snaps, make some these RB studs look at MSU and decide to go in a different direction? I realize that we know it's a little different since we are in-tune with the program, and we know how the offense looks and works. But for a young man who is from the outside looking in, maybe all they see is the highlights of Tommy and Sean running and scoring most of the TDs, and that doesn't look appealing for a running back.

Just spit balling....

In the games where we’ve been able to use the RB’s normally without worry for injury the lead back has averaged 18.5 carries per game. Usage is not an issue.

That's my point, though. We know that because we're fans. Rabid fans, so we know. But if you're someone on the outside, all you see is Tommy and Sean running and scoring, so the perspective is that we are a running QB offense...

I promise the recruits are much more knowledgeable about what we’re running, why we’re running, and how we’re running, any scheme than we as fans are. They can talk to the coaches whenever. I understand your concern, I just think it’s misguided/overthinking it. Kids de-commit for a plethora of reasons, but it’s very unlikely this was because of lack of RB touches.

[Bobcat4Ever]

The coaches can definitely explain how we're running our offense this year and point to the fact that the RBs are still used a ton (when healthy). It might be a little harder to ease their concerns about the fact that only 1 of our 21 rushing TDs was scored by a running back.

Nailed it.