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This still doesn't seem to explain it, if you look when he shows plays at the end it still looks like a lot of guys standing around watching the 1's practice.
My understanding is that they have another group doing the same thing at the other end of the field.
PlayerRep wrote:The point is not the record of the teams UM beat, it's the quality and record of the teams UM almost beat.
This still doesn't seem to explain it, if you look when he shows plays at the end it still looks like a lot of guys standing around watching the 1's practice.
My understanding is that they have another group doing the same thing at the other end of the field.
Yes, they have a group at each end of the field. Everyone under this system is getting multiple reps. There is very minimal players standing around. This team is reloading this year and not rebuilding with the player losses. It is a good system. Like the depth we have.
Likely starters - Brody Grebe (DE), Sebastian Valdez (DT), Blake Schmidt (DT), Ben Seymour (DE)
Experienced backups - David Alston (DE), Blake Hehl (DT), Kyle Rygg (DT - almost fully healthy)
Newcomers who will see time in the rotation - Kenneth Eiden (DE/DT), Hunter Parsons (DE), Tyson Regimbal (DE/DT)
That should be the "10". However, here are younger guys who are going to compete for time or will have to step up if injuries happen:
Luke Fedyk (DE)
Paul Brott (DT)
Zack Black (DT)
True freshman who will likely redshirt:
Aaron Gerle (DT - greyshirted last year so is technically a true frosh)
Logan Frederickson (DE)
Jake Vigen (DE)
Jaren Perkins (DT)
Only thing I’d change is I’d put Brott in with the Newcomers…
I don't know. Black played just as good as he did in the spring. Really impressed with Zack's development thus far. The interior of the defensive line is going to be solid for years to come.
I agree, and looking at your projections for the entire DL in general... I don't see that as a weakness whatsoever. That is called re-loading. Sure it's possible we take a slight step back, but I don't know... who knows, might take a step forward! I've said this before but look back over the past four or five years. Seems like each year we say we're going to take a step back on the DL due to how much talent we graduate each year. Again, I just think it's a matter of re-loading there year after year. This is what an excellent PROGRAM does.
Our inexperienced offensive line had no problem running the ball against our 1st team DL during the spring game. My only real reason for concern. This group can get after the QB...but can they hold up against the great running games in the FCS. We'll see soon enough.
Who’s going to play the part of Chase Benson this year?
Likely starters - Brody Grebe (DE), Sebastian Valdez (DT), Blake Schmidt (DT), Ben Seymour (DE)
Experienced backups - David Alston (DE), Blake Hehl (DT), Kyle Rygg (DT - almost fully healthy)
Newcomers who will see time in the rotation - Kenneth Eiden (DE/DT), Hunter Parsons (DE), Tyson Regimbal (DE/DT)
That should be the "10". However, here are younger guys who are going to compete for time or will have to step up if injuries happen:
Luke Fedyk (DE)
Paul Brott (DT)
Zack Black (DT)
True freshman who will likely redshirt:
Aaron Gerle (DT - greyshirted last year so is technically a true frosh)
Logan Frederickson (DE)
Jake Vigen (DE)
Jaren Perkins (DT)
Only thing I’d change is I’d put Brott in with the Newcomers…
I don't know. Black played just as good as he did in the spring. Really impressed with Zack's development thus far. The interior of the defensive line is going to be solid for years to come.
I agree, and looking at your projections for the entire DL in general... I don't see that as a weakness whatsoever. That is called re-loading. Sure it's possible we take a slight step back, but I don't know... who knows, might take a step forward! I've said this before but look back over the past four or five years. Seems like each year we say we're going to take a step back on the DL due to how much talent we graduate each year. Again, I just think it's a matter of re-loading there year after year. This is what an excellent PROGRAM does.
Our inexperienced offensive line had no problem running the ball against our 1st team DL during the spring game. My only real reason for concern. This group can get after the QB...but can they hold up against the great running games in the FCS. We'll see soon enough.
Who’s going to play the part of Chase Benson this year?
I don't know, but whoever it is almost certainly won't be as good as Benson. I remember when Peyton Manning graduated from Tennessee and people were wondering who'd replace him. It was Tee Martin. He wasn't as good as Manning. Tennessee won the national championship with Martin; they didn't win any with Manning.
MSU - 15 team National Champions (most recent 2021); 57 individual National Champions (most recent 2023). toMStUber
Likely starters - Brody Grebe (DE), Sebastian Valdez (DT), Blake Schmidt (DT), Ben Seymour (DE)
Experienced backups - David Alston (DE), Blake Hehl (DT), Kyle Rygg (DT - almost fully healthy)
Newcomers who will see time in the rotation - Kenneth Eiden (DE/DT), Hunter Parsons (DE), Tyson Regimbal (DE/DT)
That should be the "10". However, here are younger guys who are going to compete for time or will have to step up if injuries happen:
Luke Fedyk (DE)
Paul Brott (DT)
Zack Black (DT)
True freshman who will likely redshirt:
Aaron Gerle (DT - greyshirted last year so is technically a true frosh)
Logan Frederickson (DE)
Jake Vigen (DE)
Jaren Perkins (DT)
Only thing I’d change is I’d put Brott in with the Newcomers…
I don't know. Black played just as good as he did in the spring. Really impressed with Zack's development thus far. The interior of the defensive line is going to be solid for years to come.
I agree, and looking at your projections for the entire DL in general... I don't see that as a weakness whatsoever. That is called re-loading. Sure it's possible we take a slight step back, but I don't know... who knows, might take a step forward! I've said this before but look back over the past four or five years. Seems like each year we say we're going to take a step back on the DL due to how much talent we graduate each year. Again, I just think it's a matter of re-loading there year after year. This is what an excellent PROGRAM does.
Our inexperienced offensive line had no problem running the ball against our 1st team DL during the spring game. My only real reason for concern. This group can get after the QB...but can they hold up against the great running games in the FCS. We'll see soon enough.
Who’s going to play the part of Chase Benson this year?
I don't know, but whoever it is almost certainly won't be as good as Benson. I remember when Peyton Manning graduated from Tennessee and people were wondering who'd replace him. It was Tee Martin. He wasn't as good as Manning. Tennessee won the national championship with Martin; they didn't win any with Manning.
NDSU may not have had a single guy as dominant as Chase, but they had a whole crap ton of pretty damn close to Chases. If you have 8-10 guys who are 8s or 9s out of a scale of 10 that's better than 2-3 guys who are a 10 and then a bunch of 6s or 7s.
Likely starters - Brody Grebe (DE), Sebastian Valdez (DT), Blake Schmidt (DT), Ben Seymour (DE)
Experienced backups - David Alston (DE), Blake Hehl (DT), Kyle Rygg (DT - almost fully healthy)
Newcomers who will see time in the rotation - Kenneth Eiden (DE/DT), Hunter Parsons (DE), Tyson Regimbal (DE/DT)
That should be the "10". However, here are younger guys who are going to compete for time or will have to step up if injuries happen:
Luke Fedyk (DE)
Paul Brott (DT)
Zack Black (DT)
True freshman who will likely redshirt:
Aaron Gerle (DT - greyshirted last year so is technically a true frosh)
Logan Frederickson (DE)
Jake Vigen (DE)
Jaren Perkins (DT)
Only thing I’d change is I’d put Brott in with the Newcomers…
I don't know. Black played just as good as he did in the spring. Really impressed with Zack's development thus far. The interior of the defensive line is going to be solid for years to come.
I agree, and looking at your projections for the entire DL in general... I don't see that as a weakness whatsoever. That is called re-loading. Sure it's possible we take a slight step back, but I don't know... who knows, might take a step forward! I've said this before but look back over the past four or five years. Seems like each year we say we're going to take a step back on the DL due to how much talent we graduate each year. Again, I just think it's a matter of re-loading there year after year. This is what an excellent PROGRAM does.
Our inexperienced offensive line had no problem running the ball against our 1st team DL during the spring game. My only real reason for concern. This group can get after the QB...but can they hold up against the great running games in the FCS. We'll see soon enough.
Who’s going to play the part of Chase Benson this year?
I don't know, but whoever it is almost certainly won't be as good as Benson. I remember when Peyton Manning graduated from Tennessee and people were wondering who'd replace him. It was Tee Martin. He wasn't as good as Manning. Tennessee won the national championship with Martin; they didn't win any with Manning.
NDSU may not have had a single guy as dominant as Chase, but they had a whole crap ton of pretty damn close to Chases. If you have 8-10 guys who are 8s or 9s out of a scale of 10 that's better than 2-3 guys who are a 10 and then a bunch of 6s or 7s.
NDSU’s best DL was injured last year and didn’t play against us and that’s scary, even scarier is he decided to come back and play his extra year of eligibility
Likely starters - Brody Grebe (DE), Sebastian Valdez (DT), Blake Schmidt (DT), Ben Seymour (DE)
Experienced backups - David Alston (DE), Blake Hehl (DT), Kyle Rygg (DT - almost fully healthy)
Newcomers who will see time in the rotation - Kenneth Eiden (DE/DT), Hunter Parsons (DE), Tyson Regimbal (DE/DT)
That should be the "10". However, here are younger guys who are going to compete for time or will have to step up if injuries happen:
Luke Fedyk (DE)
Paul Brott (DT)
Zack Black (DT)
True freshman who will likely redshirt:
Aaron Gerle (DT - greyshirted last year so is technically a true frosh)
Logan Frederickson (DE)
Jake Vigen (DE)
Jaren Perkins (DT)
Only thing I’d change is I’d put Brott in with the Newcomers…
I don't know. Black played just as good as he did in the spring. Really impressed with Zack's development thus far. The interior of the defensive line is going to be solid for years to come.
I agree, and looking at your projections for the entire DL in general... I don't see that as a weakness whatsoever. That is called re-loading. Sure it's possible we take a slight step back, but I don't know... who knows, might take a step forward! I've said this before but look back over the past four or five years. Seems like each year we say we're going to take a step back on the DL due to how much talent we graduate each year. Again, I just think it's a matter of re-loading there year after year. This is what an excellent PROGRAM does.
Our inexperienced offensive line had no problem running the ball against our 1st team DL during the spring game. My only real reason for concern. This group can get after the QB...but can they hold up against the great running games in the FCS. We'll see soon enough.
Who’s going to play the part of Chase Benson this year?
I don't know, but whoever it is almost certainly won't be as good as Benson. I remember when Peyton Manning graduated from Tennessee and people were wondering who'd replace him. It was Tee Martin. He wasn't as good as Manning. Tennessee won the national championship with Martin; they didn't win any with Manning.
NDSU may not have had a single guy as dominant as Chase, but they had a whole crap ton of pretty damn close to Chases. If you have 8-10 guys who are 8s or 9s out of a scale of 10 that's better than 2-3 guys who are a 10 and then a bunch of 6s or 7s.
Likely starters - Brody Grebe (DE), Sebastian Valdez (DT), Blake Schmidt (DT), Ben Seymour (DE)
Experienced backups - David Alston (DE), Blake Hehl (DT), Kyle Rygg (DT - almost fully healthy)
Newcomers who will see time in the rotation - Kenneth Eiden (DE/DT), Hunter Parsons (DE), Tyson Regimbal (DE/DT)
That should be the "10". However, here are younger guys who are going to compete for time or will have to step up if injuries happen:
Luke Fedyk (DE)
Paul Brott (DT)
Zack Black (DT)
True freshman who will likely redshirt:
Aaron Gerle (DT - greyshirted last year so is technically a true frosh)
Logan Frederickson (DE)
Jake Vigen (DE)
Jaren Perkins (DT)
Only thing I’d change is I’d put Brott in with the Newcomers…
I don't know. Black played just as good as he did in the spring. Really impressed with Zack's development thus far. The interior of the defensive line is going to be solid for years to come.
I agree, and looking at your projections for the entire DL in general... I don't see that as a weakness whatsoever. That is called re-loading. Sure it's possible we take a slight step back, but I don't know... who knows, might take a step forward! I've said this before but look back over the past four or five years. Seems like each year we say we're going to take a step back on the DL due to how much talent we graduate each year. Again, I just think it's a matter of re-loading there year after year. This is what an excellent PROGRAM does.
Our inexperienced offensive line had no problem running the ball against our 1st team DL during the spring game. My only real reason for concern. This group can get after the QB...but can they hold up against the great running games in the FCS. We'll see soon enough.
Who’s going to play the part of Chase Benson this year?
I don't know, but whoever it is almost certainly won't be as good as Benson. I remember when Peyton Manning graduated from Tennessee and people were wondering who'd replace him. It was Tee Martin. He wasn't as good as Manning. Tennessee won the national championship with Martin; they didn't win any with Manning.
NDSU may not have had a single guy as dominant as Chase, but they had a whole crap ton of pretty damn close to Chases. If you have 8-10 guys who are 8s or 9s out of a scale of 10 that's better than 2-3 guys who are a 10 and then a bunch of 6s or 7s.
Likely starters - Brody Grebe (DE), Sebastian Valdez (DT), Blake Schmidt (DT), Ben Seymour (DE)
Experienced backups - David Alston (DE), Blake Hehl (DT), Kyle Rygg (DT - almost fully healthy)
Newcomers who will see time in the rotation - Kenneth Eiden (DE/DT), Hunter Parsons (DE), Tyson Regimbal (DE/DT)
That should be the "10". However, here are younger guys who are going to compete for time or will have to step up if injuries happen:
Luke Fedyk (DE)
Paul Brott (DT)
Zack Black (DT)
True freshman who will likely redshirt:
Aaron Gerle (DT - greyshirted last year so is technically a true frosh)
Logan Frederickson (DE)
Jake Vigen (DE)
Jaren Perkins (DT)
Only thing I’d change is I’d put Brott in with the Newcomers…
I don't know. Black played just as good as he did in the spring. Really impressed with Zack's development thus far. The interior of the defensive line is going to be solid for years to come.
I agree, and looking at your projections for the entire DL in general... I don't see that as a weakness whatsoever. That is called re-loading. Sure it's possible we take a slight step back, but I don't know... who knows, might take a step forward! I've said this before but look back over the past four or five years. Seems like each year we say we're going to take a step back on the DL due to how much talent we graduate each year. Again, I just think it's a matter of re-loading there year after year. This is what an excellent PROGRAM does.
Our inexperienced offensive line had no problem running the ball against our 1st team DL during the spring game. My only real reason for concern. This group can get after the QB...but can they hold up against the great running games in the FCS. We'll see soon enough.
Who’s going to play the part of Chase Benson this year?
I don't know, but whoever it is almost certainly won't be as good as Benson. I remember when Peyton Manning graduated from Tennessee and people were wondering who'd replace him. It was Tee Martin. He wasn't as good as Manning. Tennessee won the national championship with Martin; they didn't win any with Manning.
NDSU may not have had a single guy as dominant as Chase, but they had a whole crap ton of pretty damn close to Chases. If you have 8-10 guys who are 8s or 9s out of a scale of 10 that's better than 2-3 guys who are a 10 and then a bunch of 6s or 7s.
Likely starters - Brody Grebe (DE), Sebastian Valdez (DT), Blake Schmidt (DT), Ben Seymour (DE)
Experienced backups - David Alston (DE), Blake Hehl (DT), Kyle Rygg (DT - almost fully healthy)
Newcomers who will see time in the rotation - Kenneth Eiden (DE/DT), Hunter Parsons (DE), Tyson Regimbal (DE/DT)
That should be the "10". However, here are younger guys who are going to compete for time or will have to step up if injuries happen:
Luke Fedyk (DE)
Paul Brott (DT)
Zack Black (DT)
True freshman who will likely redshirt:
Aaron Gerle (DT - greyshirted last year so is technically a true frosh)
Logan Frederickson (DE)
Jake Vigen (DE)
Jaren Perkins (DT)
Only thing I’d change is I’d put Brott in with the Newcomers…
I don't know. Black played just as good as he did in the spring. Really impressed with Zack's development thus far. The interior of the defensive line is going to be solid for years to come.
I agree, and looking at your projections for the entire DL in general... I don't see that as a weakness whatsoever. That is called re-loading. Sure it's possible we take a slight step back, but I don't know... who knows, might take a step forward! I've said this before but look back over the past four or five years. Seems like each year we say we're going to take a step back on the DL due to how much talent we graduate each year. Again, I just think it's a matter of re-loading there year after year. This is what an excellent PROGRAM does.
Our inexperienced offensive line had no problem running the ball against our 1st team DL during the spring game. My only real reason for concern. This group can get after the QB...but can they hold up against the great running games in the FCS. We'll see soon enough.
Who’s going to play the part of Chase Benson this year?
I don't know, but whoever it is almost certainly won't be as good as Benson. I remember when Peyton Manning graduated from Tennessee and people were wondering who'd replace him. It was Tee Martin. He wasn't as good as Manning. Tennessee won the national championship with Martin; they didn't win any with Manning.
NDSU may not have had a single guy as dominant as Chase, but they had a whole crap ton of pretty damn close to Chases. If you have 8-10 guys who are 8s or 9s out of a scale of 10 that's better than 2-3 guys who are a 10 and then a bunch of 6s or 7s.
Likely starters - Brody Grebe (DE), Sebastian Valdez (DT), Blake Schmidt (DT), Ben Seymour (DE)
Experienced backups - David Alston (DE), Blake Hehl (DT), Kyle Rygg (DT - almost fully healthy)
Newcomers who will see time in the rotation - Kenneth Eiden (DE/DT), Hunter Parsons (DE), Tyson Regimbal (DE/DT)
That should be the "10". However, here are younger guys who are going to compete for time or will have to step up if injuries happen:
Luke Fedyk (DE)
Paul Brott (DT)
Zack Black (DT)
True freshman who will likely redshirt:
Aaron Gerle (DT - greyshirted last year so is technically a true frosh)
Logan Frederickson (DE)
Jake Vigen (DE)
Jaren Perkins (DT)
Only thing I’d change is I’d put Brott in with the Newcomers…
I don't know. Black played just as good as he did in the spring. Really impressed with Zack's development thus far. The interior of the defensive line is going to be solid for years to come.
I agree, and looking at your projections for the entire DL in general... I don't see that as a weakness whatsoever. That is called re-loading. Sure it's possible we take a slight step back, but I don't know... who knows, might take a step forward! I've said this before but look back over the past four or five years. Seems like each year we say we're going to take a step back on the DL due to how much talent we graduate each year. Again, I just think it's a matter of re-loading there year after year. This is what an excellent PROGRAM does.
Our inexperienced offensive line had no problem running the ball against our 1st team DL during the spring game. My only real reason for concern. This group can get after the QB...but can they hold up against the great running games in the FCS. We'll see soon enough.
Who’s going to play the part of Chase Benson this year?
I don't know, but whoever it is almost certainly won't be as good as Benson. I remember when Peyton Manning graduated from Tennessee and people were wondering who'd replace him. It was Tee Martin. He wasn't as good as Manning. Tennessee won the national championship with Martin; they didn't win any with Manning.
NDSU may not have had a single guy as dominant as Chase, but they had a whole crap ton of pretty damn close to Chases. If you have 8-10 guys who are 8s or 9s out of a scale of 10 that's better than 2-3 guys who are a 10 and then a bunch of 6s or 7s.
Colter mentioned something about a death in the family, I think.
How significant is this to the secondary?
We have good depth in the secondary. It has looked really impressive the first two days of camp. Even some of the new freshman DBs.
True Corners
Simeon Woodard - Sp.
Tyrel Thomas - Sr.
James Campbell - Sr.
Dru Polidore - Rfr.
Miles Jackson - So.
Devin Davis - Rfr.
Jackson Harmon - Rfr.
Takhari Carr - Tfr.
Nickel
Ty Okada - Sr.
Level Price - Jr.
Connor Ryan - So.
Safety
Jeffrey Manning - Sr.
Rylan Ortt - So.
Rhedi Short - Sr.
Kendric Bailey - Jr.
Tyson Pottenger - Rfr.
Eli Aby - Rfr.
Jake D'Agostino - Rfr.
Michael Armstrong - Tfr.
Caden Dowler - Tfr.
Max Kimball - Tfr.
Kade Cutler - Tfr.
So we have a pile of young safeties but a lot of those kids are going to be flexible in that nickel spot. I listed Rylan at safety but if Ty were to go down, Rylan would likely be the next man up at nickel like he was against SDSU. Our six deep at corner is solid despite losing Zambrano and I would be Takhari Carr is going to push for time. Anyway, we have a lot of bodies.
"There's two times of year for me: Football season, and waiting for football season."
Dumb question here, but is this the thread where any and all information coming out of Fall camp will likely be posted? I know some folks are posting links to interviews and articles here... but it seems hit and miss, and I don't know that I've seen all the Vigen, assistant coaches, and player interviews over the last couple days? Also, on a related note - is anyone attending practices and can post any practice reports? Just checking.
Dumb question here, but is this the thread where any and all information coming out of Fall camp will likely be posted? I know some folks are posting links to interviews and articles here... but it seems hit and miss, and I don't know that I've seen all the Vigen, assistant coaches, and player interviews over the last couple days? Also, on a related note - is anyone attending practices and can post any practice reports? Just checking.
Any and all information...no. Some information...yes. I know I'll post information from Twitter or other sites when I see it or when I feel like posting but you'll probably have to get a Twitter account to see most of the content from the news and university sources.