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Zachary Dodson-Greene commits

Post by AFCAT » Thu May 12, 2022 4:49 pm

2022 commit.



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Re: Zachary Dodson-Greene commits

Post by Montanabob » Thu May 12, 2022 6:21 pm

PWO? He tweeted a PWO from PSU but nothing except the commit to MSU and no Voopa Voopa Voopa Bang from the big V.
And 30 adds quite a few to the locker room. Still expecting a few more retirements and transfers.

It is good to see that the transfers so far are usually moved up to FBS or a top FCS program.


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Re: Zachary Dodson-Greene commits

Post by BelligerentBobcat » Thu May 12, 2022 7:05 pm

I would guess he’s a walk on.



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Re: Zachary Dodson-Greene commits

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Re: Zachary Dodson-Greene commits

Post by 083190 » Thu May 12, 2022 7:52 pm

4.72 40 time?



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Re: Zachary Dodson-Greene commits

Post by Montanabob » Thu May 12, 2022 8:17 pm

083190 wrote:
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4.72 40 time?
Just wait till he has a year of 4:00 a.m. workouts.


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Re: Zachary Dodson-Greene commits

Post by ND0479 » Thu May 12, 2022 8:31 pm

083190 wrote:
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4.72 40 time?
4.72 laser isn’t too bad for a HS kid….Not great either.



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Re: Zachary Dodson-Greene commits

Post by seataccat » Thu May 12, 2022 9:11 pm

ND0479 wrote:
Thu May 12, 2022 8:31 pm
083190 wrote:
Thu May 12, 2022 7:52 pm
4.72 40 time?
4.72 laser isn’t too bad for a HS kid….Not great either.
Geezus that seems crazy fast to me. At least in my day it was.


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Re: Zachary Dodson-Greene commits

Post by Hell's Bells » Fri May 13, 2022 9:20 am

seataccat wrote:
Thu May 12, 2022 9:11 pm
ND0479 wrote:
Thu May 12, 2022 8:31 pm
083190 wrote:
Thu May 12, 2022 7:52 pm
4.72 40 time?
4.72 laser isn’t too bad for a HS kid….Not great either.
Geezus that seems crazy fast to me. At least in my day it was.
Hey even I can run that...chasing after the pizza delivery guy \:D/
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Re: Zachary Dodson-Greene commits

Post by gtapp » Fri May 13, 2022 9:38 am

Didn't Georgia's 345 lbs. D-lineman run a 4.8 at the combine?


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Re: Zachary Dodson-Greene commits

Post by kennethnoisewater » Fri May 13, 2022 10:15 am

I mean there's a reason he's still available right now. Part of that is Covid is still screwing high school recruits, but mostly it's because he's a project kid. You'd hope a guy who runs a 4.72 would be 6'5", or that a 6'1" guy would run a 4.5. But hey, we've all seen guys who don't look like much turn into very good players. As long as it's not costing much (any) money and there's a roster spot to offer, let him come in and see what happens.

It's also entirely possible and even probable to improve a 40 time through college. He's probably not done developing just naturally, and then with the development a college program would put on him, I could see him being a 4.5 guy and even growing a couple inches. Then suddenly he's a dude. But it's a matter of him sticking it out and MSU seeing enough potential to let him have a spot. Obviously it's also possible that he's done developing, that he's already had elite training, and that this is his ceiling.


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Re: Zachary Dodson-Greene commits

Post by catatac » Fri May 13, 2022 6:08 pm

gtapp wrote:
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Didn't Georgia's 345 lbs. D-lineman run a 4.8 at the combine?
Yep - but that kid was an absolute freak of nature... a one in a million shot.


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Re: Zachary Dodson-Greene commits

Post by BelligerentBobcat » Sat May 14, 2022 11:25 am

kennethnoisewater wrote:
Fri May 13, 2022 10:15 am
I mean there's a reason he's still available right now. Part of that is Covid is still screwing high school recruits, but mostly it's because he's a project kid. You'd hope a guy who runs a 4.72 would be 6'5", or that a 6'1" guy would run a 4.5. But hey, we've all seen guys who don't look like much turn into very good players. As long as it's not costing much (any) money and there's a roster spot to offer, let him come in and see what happens.

It's also entirely possible and even probable to improve a 40 time through college. He's probably not done developing just naturally, and then with the development a college program would put on him, I could see him being a 4.5 guy and even growing a couple inches. Then suddenly he's a dude. But it's a matter of him sticking it out and MSU seeing enough potential to let him have a spot. Obviously it's also possible that he's done developing, that he's already had elite training, and that this is his ceiling.
Most players increase their speed/strength in college.

A 4.7 laser for a WR is just fine coming out of HS. A 4.7 hand time is pretty meh. Despite players putting a 4.4 on their HUDL or Twitter pages, there are relatively few people who are truly running a sub 4.5 coming out of HS.



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Re: Zachary Dodson-Greene commits

Post by Montanabob » Sat May 14, 2022 12:16 pm

BelligerentBobcat wrote:
Sat May 14, 2022 11:25 am
kennethnoisewater wrote:
Fri May 13, 2022 10:15 am
I mean there's a reason he's still available right now. Part of that is Covid is still screwing high school recruits, but mostly it's because he's a project kid. You'd hope a guy who runs a 4.72 would be 6'5", or that a 6'1" guy would run a 4.5. But hey, we've all seen guys who don't look like much turn into very good players. As long as it's not costing much (any) money and there's a roster spot to offer, let him come in and see what happens.

It's also entirely possible and even probable to improve a 40 time through college. He's probably not done developing just naturally, and then with the development a college program would put on him, I could see him being a 4.5 guy and even growing a couple inches. Then suddenly he's a dude. But it's a matter of him sticking it out and MSU seeing enough potential to let him have a spot. Obviously it's also possible that he's done developing, that he's already had elite training, and that this is his ceiling.
Most players increase their speed/strength in college.

A 4.7 laser for a WR is just fine coming out of HS. A 4.7 hand time is pretty meh. Despite players putting a 4.4 on their HUDL or Twitter pages, there are relatively few people who are truly running a sub 4.5 coming out of HS.
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Re: Zachary Dodson-Greene commits

Post by TomCat88 » Sat May 14, 2022 12:49 pm

Montanabob wrote:
Sat May 14, 2022 12:16 pm
BelligerentBobcat wrote:
Sat May 14, 2022 11:25 am
kennethnoisewater wrote:
Fri May 13, 2022 10:15 am
I mean there's a reason he's still available right now. Part of that is Covid is still screwing high school recruits, but mostly it's because he's a project kid. You'd hope a guy who runs a 4.72 would be 6'5", or that a 6'1" guy would run a 4.5. But hey, we've all seen guys who don't look like much turn into very good players. As long as it's not costing much (any) money and there's a roster spot to offer, let him come in and see what happens.

It's also entirely possible and even probable to improve a 40 time through college. He's probably not done developing just naturally, and then with the development a college program would put on him, I could see him being a 4.5 guy and even growing a couple inches. Then suddenly he's a dude. But it's a matter of him sticking it out and MSU seeing enough potential to let him have a spot. Obviously it's also possible that he's done developing, that he's already had elite training, and that this is his ceiling.
Most players increase their speed/strength in college.

A 4.7 laser for a WR is just fine coming out of HS. A 4.7 hand time is pretty meh. Despite players putting a 4.4 on their HUDL or Twitter pages, there are relatively few people who are truly running a sub 4.5 coming out of HS.
Two words.... Cooper kupp.
Kupp 4.62; jerry Rice 4.71; Larry Fitzgerald 4.63;


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Re: Zachary Dodson-Greene commits

Post by BelligerentBobcat » Sat May 14, 2022 2:12 pm

TomCat88 wrote:
Sat May 14, 2022 12:49 pm
Montanabob wrote:
Sat May 14, 2022 12:16 pm
BelligerentBobcat wrote:
Sat May 14, 2022 11:25 am
kennethnoisewater wrote:
Fri May 13, 2022 10:15 am
I mean there's a reason he's still available right now. Part of that is Covid is still screwing high school recruits, but mostly it's because he's a project kid. You'd hope a guy who runs a 4.72 would be 6'5", or that a 6'1" guy would run a 4.5. But hey, we've all seen guys who don't look like much turn into very good players. As long as it's not costing much (any) money and there's a roster spot to offer, let him come in and see what happens.

It's also entirely possible and even probable to improve a 40 time through college. He's probably not done developing just naturally, and then with the development a college program would put on him, I could see him being a 4.5 guy and even growing a couple inches. Then suddenly he's a dude. But it's a matter of him sticking it out and MSU seeing enough potential to let him have a spot. Obviously it's also possible that he's done developing, that he's already had elite training, and that this is his ceiling.
Most players increase their speed/strength in college.

A 4.7 laser for a WR is just fine coming out of HS. A 4.7 hand time is pretty meh. Despite players putting a 4.4 on their HUDL or Twitter pages, there are relatively few people who are truly running a sub 4.5 coming out of HS.
Two words.... Cooper kupp.
Kupp 4.62; jerry Rice 4.71; Larry Fitzgerald 4.63;
Couple things. The Rice and Fitzgerald times are, as they say, fake news. Oft quoted, but still wrong.

Regarding Kupp, he did not perform well in regards to straight line speed or explosion, which would make sense if you watch him play. He was above 80th percentile compared to WR’s in his 3-cone and short shuttle. Which again, makes sense watching him play. The tests do work, but they have to match the tape. If a guy is a deep threat only in HS but is only running a 4.8, you can assume he won’t do that well in college against better competition, for example.



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