TJ Session in portal.

Discuss anything and everything relating to Bobcat Football here.

Moderators: rtb, kmax, SonomaCat

User avatar
CatBot
Honorable Mention All-BobcatNation
Posts: 890
Joined: Sun Dec 06, 2020 6:38 pm

Re: TJ Session in portal.

Post by CatBot » Wed Apr 27, 2022 5:45 pm

Bobcat4Ever wrote:
Wed Apr 27, 2022 4:07 pm
HelenaCat95 wrote:
Wed Apr 27, 2022 2:38 pm
bobcatfan123 wrote:
Wed Apr 27, 2022 2:37 pm
VimSince03 wrote:
Wed Apr 27, 2022 10:55 am
Hawks86 wrote:
Wed Apr 27, 2022 10:37 am
Just remember. We have a starting center, the rest is TBD, and our O-line will still be better than the gris.
I second this. Rush Reimer is going to be a good left tackle next year everyone. Solid play can be found on the interior between JT Reed, Marcus Wehr (blew me away how good he looked in the spring game), Cole Sain, and Joe McElroy. If Jacob Kettels is healthy by the fall, he is 100% a plug and play right tackle.
All true statements, but.... we can't lose guys like this and compete with NDSU. In order to compete with NDSU we need to find a way to keep these guys. I have been looking for a while but can't find any significant transfers from the NDSU Program. Have any significant contributors at NDSU left for a bigger program? Honest question, I really can't remember one.
Jabril Cox - LSU
Trey Lance left way early for a bigger program. San Francisco 49ers.
Very good point. That's almost as good as leaving for the gris. Both of those teams have a chance to win the super bowl every year.



BStinsMSU
BobcatNation Team Captain
Posts: 468
Joined: Mon Nov 05, 2018 2:38 pm
Location: Spokane

Re: TJ Session in portal.

Post by BStinsMSU » Wed Apr 27, 2022 6:02 pm

Since this is where the transfer portal discourse seems to be happening, I'll leave my "old man yells at the clouds" comment. While there is a sh!t show going on with NIL side of things (Doesn't necessarily effect us as much right now, but don't let the door hit you on the way out Emmert). I don't have an issue with student athletes utilizing the portal more. Montana State has done a phenomenal job of bringing in top end FCS talent, and as we all saw coaches can split in the blink of an eye. The spectacle of college sports and "amateurism" is long gone in my mind. University systems make plenty of money on student athletes and regardless of their scholarship status, they deserve the right to change their mind on what school they attend and play for, just like any other student at Montana State.

It certainly is disheartening (not here, I'd say I largely see it on other socials) that players of any school are talked down upon solely based on making a decision for themselves, and being in a position where they must publicize it for the sake of finding a new landing spot. In my mind, the transfer portal is not "out of control", rather we're seeing a successful shift in student athlete empowerment that has been upcoming for the past decade, and this is likely the new reality.

Hope you enjoyed my TED talk. :lol:


"It was like a coordinated effort by the Missoulian and the police to bring UM Football program down..." eGriz 11/30/12

Living on the KittieKop Legacy...

BelligerentBobcat
Member # Retired
Posts: 2688
Joined: Thu Jul 29, 2021 6:58 am

Re: TJ Session in portal.

Post by BelligerentBobcat » Wed Apr 27, 2022 7:13 pm

If Session can play in the PAC-12, then good for him. I can’t say I wouldn’t do the same thing if I were him. Play near home in a major conference? Hard to turn that down.



User avatar
tdub
1st Team All-BobcatNation
Posts: 1947
Joined: Fri Sep 08, 2006 8:41 pm
Location: Kalispell

Re: TJ Session in portal.

Post by tdub » Thu Apr 28, 2022 6:03 am

As a dad with two current college athletes (not football), there is no reasonable way to look down on any kid looking to change schools. There are a multitude of reasons to transfer that will set these kids on a better path to success in life, far beyond athletics. Mental health was discussed heavily when McKay left. That doesn’t mean alleviating mental illness, but rather optimizing mental health. There is proximity to home. Trust me, as a parent it becomes a much bigger deal than you’d ever think when you don’t have the ability to support your kids in person, or even see them on tv/streaming. There are also legitimate academic reasons. And then, yes, there are athletic-driven reasons too. But there is one common thread to every single transfer out there, 18-24 year old kids looking for a better path for their lives. Some prove to be good decisions, some don’t. It’s just a microcosm of the real world they are prepping themselves for. It’s just too bad that a lot of people can’t see the human behind the athlete.


Gold medals aren't really made of gold. They're made of sweat, determination, and a hard-to-find alloy called guts. - Dan Gable

User avatar
ND0479
2nd Team All-BobcatNation
Posts: 1233
Joined: Wed Sep 30, 2020 10:45 am

Re: TJ Session in portal.

Post by ND0479 » Thu Apr 28, 2022 6:39 am

tdub wrote:
Thu Apr 28, 2022 6:03 am
As a dad with two current college athletes (not football), there is no reasonable way to look down on any kid looking to change schools. There are a multitude of reasons to transfer that will set these kids on a better path to success in life, far beyond athletics. Mental health was discussed heavily when McKay left. That doesn’t mean alleviating mental illness, but rather optimizing mental health. There is proximity to home. Trust me, as a parent it becomes a much bigger deal than you’d ever think when you don’t have the ability to support your kids in person, or even see them on tv/streaming. There are also legitimate academic reasons. And then, yes, there are athletic-driven reasons too. But there is one common thread to every single transfer out there, 18-24 year old kids looking for a better path for their lives. Some prove to be good decisions, some don’t. It’s just a microcosm of the real world they are prepping themselves for. It’s just too bad that a lot of people can’t see the human behind the athlete.
Great post!



User avatar
84CatGrad
2nd Team All-BobcatNation
Posts: 1269
Joined: Sun Dec 27, 2015 9:05 pm
Location: Columbus, MT

Re: TJ Session in portal.

Post by 84CatGrad » Thu Apr 28, 2022 7:01 am

I doubt we get over a dozen scouts again until Tommy's career is complete. Even Ifanse is unlikely to pull in more than that.
[/quote]

Although he is among the best at the FCS level I don't see Ifanse in the NFL. Not enough size. Not enough speed.



User avatar
CelticCat
Golden Bobcat
Posts: 12215
Joined: Thu Apr 01, 2004 12:55 pm
Location: Upper Northwest WA
Contact:

Re: TJ Session in portal.

Post by CelticCat » Thu Apr 28, 2022 9:27 am

tdub wrote:
Thu Apr 28, 2022 6:03 am
As a dad with two current college athletes (not football), there is no reasonable way to look down on any kid looking to change schools. There are a multitude of reasons to transfer that will set these kids on a better path to success in life, far beyond athletics. Mental health was discussed heavily when McKay left. That doesn’t mean alleviating mental illness, but rather optimizing mental health. There is proximity to home. Trust me, as a parent it becomes a much bigger deal than you’d ever think when you don’t have the ability to support your kids in person, or even see them on tv/streaming. There are also legitimate academic reasons. And then, yes, there are athletic-driven reasons too. But there is one common thread to every single transfer out there, 18-24 year old kids looking for a better path for their lives. Some prove to be good decisions, some don’t. It’s just a microcosm of the real world they are prepping themselves for. It’s just too bad that a lot of people can’t see the human behind the athlete.
=D^


R&R Cat Cast - the only Bobcat fan podcast - https://www.rrcatcast.com
Twitter - https://twitter.com/rrcatcast

User avatar
BleedingBLue
Golden Bobcat
Posts: 6185
Joined: Mon Dec 07, 2015 1:00 pm

Re: TJ Session in portal.

Post by BleedingBLue » Thu Apr 28, 2022 9:37 am

84CatGrad wrote:
Thu Apr 28, 2022 7:01 am
I doubt we get over a dozen scouts again until Tommy's career is complete. Even Ifanse is unlikely to pull in more than that.
Although he is among the best at the FCS level I don't see Ifanse in the NFL. Not enough size. Not enough speed.
[/quote]

This is getting us off topic but what??? He's the same size as a lot of backs in the NFL. Add 10 pounds and he'd be right on par with a lot more. He's the same size as Aaron Jones, who seems to be pretty good. He's the same size at Pierre Strong Jr. who's being projected as a 4th round pick. He may not run a 4.4 - 4.5 but he isn't slow.



TomCat88
Golden Bobcat
Posts: 19075
Joined: Thu Oct 23, 2008 6:16 am
Location: An endless run of moguls

Re: TJ Session in portal.

Post by TomCat88 » Thu Apr 28, 2022 10:00 am

tdub wrote:
Thu Apr 28, 2022 6:03 am
As a dad with two current college athletes (not football), there is no reasonable way to look down on any kid looking to change schools. There are a multitude of reasons to transfer that will set these kids on a better path to success in life, far beyond athletics. Mental health was discussed heavily when McKay left. That doesn’t mean alleviating mental illness, but rather optimizing mental health. There is proximity to home. Trust me, as a parent it becomes a much bigger deal than you’d ever think when you don’t have the ability to support your kids in person, or even see them on tv/streaming. There are also legitimate academic reasons. And then, yes, there are athletic-driven reasons too. But there is one common thread to every single transfer out there, 18-24 year old kids looking for a better path for their lives. Some prove to be good decisions, some don’t. It’s just a microcosm of the real world they are prepping themselves for. It’s just too bad that a lot of people can’t see the human behind the athlete.
Excellent post.


MSU - 15 team National Champions (most recent 2021); 57 individual National Champions (most recent 2023).
toM StUber

TomCat88
Golden Bobcat
Posts: 19075
Joined: Thu Oct 23, 2008 6:16 am
Location: An endless run of moguls

Re: TJ Session in portal.

Post by TomCat88 » Thu Apr 28, 2022 10:06 am

BleedingBLue wrote:
Thu Apr 28, 2022 9:37 am
84CatGrad wrote:
Thu Apr 28, 2022 7:01 am
I doubt we get over a dozen scouts again until Tommy's career is complete. Even Ifanse is unlikely to pull in more than that.
Although he is among the best at the FCS level I don't see Ifanse in the NFL. Not enough size. Not enough speed.
This is getting us off topic but what??? He's the same size as a lot of backs in the NFL. Add 10 pounds and he'd be right on par with a lot more. He's the same size as Aaron Jones, who seems to be pretty good. He's the same size at Pierre Strong Jr. who's being projected as a 4th round pick. He may not run a 4.4 - 4.5 but he isn't slow.
[/quote]

What he lacks there he makes up for in his ability to break tackles and be tackled. I’m not sure what scouts will make of him simply because there are so few running backs like him. Barring injury someone will give him a shot and if he can still do in training camp against NFL players what he does vs FCS players, then he could make it.

But, yes, this is TJ’s thread.


MSU - 15 team National Champions (most recent 2021); 57 individual National Champions (most recent 2023).
toM StUber

BelligerentBobcat
Member # Retired
Posts: 2688
Joined: Thu Jul 29, 2021 6:58 am

Re: TJ Session in portal.

Post by BelligerentBobcat » Thu Apr 28, 2022 10:09 am

BleedingBLue wrote:
Thu Apr 28, 2022 9:37 am
84CatGrad wrote:
Thu Apr 28, 2022 7:01 am
I doubt we get over a dozen scouts again until Tommy's career is complete. Even Ifanse is unlikely to pull in more than that.
Although he is among the best at the FCS level I don't see Ifanse in the NFL. Not enough size. Not enough speed.
This is getting us off topic but what??? He's the same size as a lot of backs in the NFL. Add 10 pounds and he'd be right on par with a lot more. He's the same size as Aaron Jones, who seems to be pretty good. He's the same size at Pierre Strong Jr. who's being projected as a 4th round pick. He may not run a 4.4 - 4.5 but he isn't slow.
[/quote]

By NFL standards he’s undersized and not fleet of foot. I think he’ll get a chance because he’s been so productive, but it’s a small chance.



stevo
BobcatNation Team Captain
Posts: 651
Joined: Fri Sep 14, 2007 1:29 pm
Location: Laurel, Montana

Re: TJ Session in portal.

Post by stevo » Thu Apr 28, 2022 10:29 am

coloradocat wrote:
Wed Apr 27, 2022 3:05 pm
CelticCat wrote:
Wed Apr 27, 2022 2:49 pm
These have to be walk-on offers right? Even so, they may help get scholarship offers from more G5 schools.
I would guess this all has to do with NIL collective. $$$



profisme
Member # Retired
Posts: 2192
Joined: Sun Aug 22, 2004 8:05 pm
Location: Bozeman, MT
Contact:

Re: TJ Session in portal.

Post by profisme » Thu Apr 28, 2022 10:50 am

BelligerentBobcat wrote:
Thu Apr 28, 2022 10:09 am
BleedingBLue wrote:
Thu Apr 28, 2022 9:37 am
84CatGrad wrote:
Thu Apr 28, 2022 7:01 am
I doubt we get over a dozen scouts again until Tommy's career is complete. Even Ifanse is unlikely to pull in more than that.
Although he is among the best at the FCS level I don't see Ifanse in the NFL. Not enough size. Not enough speed.
This is getting us off topic but what??? He's the same size as a lot of backs in the NFL. Add 10 pounds and he'd be right on par with a lot more. He's the same size as Aaron Jones, who seems to be pretty good. He's the same size at Pierre Strong Jr. who's being projected as a 4th round pick. He may not run a 4.4 - 4.5 but he isn't slow.
By NFL standards he’s undersized and not fleet of foot. I think he’ll get a chance because he’s been so productive, but it’s a small chance.
[/quote]

He is about the same size and speed as David Montgomery who was a 3rd round pick for the Bears. Very similar running style, can be shifty in the hole and rarely taken down by the first guy that makes contact. Montgomery has excellent hands and as of yet, we haven't seen Ifanse catch the ball a bunch. If his knee is healthy, he should get a shot to play on Sundays if he wants.


-Elias P. Harmon-

User avatar
AFCAT
Golden Bobcat
Posts: 9167
Joined: Mon Sep 12, 2016 3:25 pm

Re: TJ Session in portal.

Post by AFCAT » Thu Apr 28, 2022 11:04 am



QB Club https://www.msubqc.org
Bobcat Collective https://linktr.ee/thebobcatcollective
“In the military, they teach you the best time to attack your enemy is nighttime and bad weather. We’ve got f—ing both!” — Devin Slaughter

User avatar
kennethnoisewater
BobcatNation Hall of Famer
Posts: 3605
Joined: Wed Jul 20, 2011 12:41 pm
Location: Kalispell, MT

Re: TJ Session in portal.

Post by kennethnoisewater » Thu Apr 28, 2022 11:09 am

I think we're going to see a lot more of this. OL is a position that takes time to develop just because few players are big and strong enough right out of high school. Bigger programs will give a guy 2-3 years to bulk up (and see if they have the right mentality) and offer them more money than the FCS schools can give. Hopefully, like other positions, these spots will be back-filled by guys moving down that couldn't quite hack it in the bigger programs.


Image

BelligerentBobcat
Member # Retired
Posts: 2688
Joined: Thu Jul 29, 2021 6:58 am

Re: TJ Session in portal.

Post by BelligerentBobcat » Thu Apr 28, 2022 11:20 am

profisme wrote:
Thu Apr 28, 2022 10:50 am
BelligerentBobcat wrote:
Thu Apr 28, 2022 10:09 am
BleedingBLue wrote:
Thu Apr 28, 2022 9:37 am
84CatGrad wrote:
Thu Apr 28, 2022 7:01 am
I doubt we get over a dozen scouts again until Tommy's career is complete. Even Ifanse is unlikely to pull in more than that.
Although he is among the best at the FCS level I don't see Ifanse in the NFL. Not enough size. Not enough speed.
This is getting us off topic but what??? He's the same size as a lot of backs in the NFL. Add 10 pounds and he'd be right on par with a lot more. He's the same size as Aaron Jones, who seems to be pretty good. He's the same size at Pierre Strong Jr. who's being projected as a 4th round pick. He may not run a 4.4 - 4.5 but he isn't slow.
By NFL standards he’s undersized and not fleet of foot. I think he’ll get a chance because he’s been so productive, but it’s a small chance.
He is about the same size and speed as David Montgomery who was a 3rd round pick for the Bears. Very similar running style, can be shifty in the hole and rarely taken down by the first guy that makes contact. Montgomery has excellent hands and as of yet, we haven't seen Ifanse catch the ball a bunch. If his knee is healthy, he should get a shot to play on Sundays if he wants.
[/quote]

Montgomery is about 20 lbs heavier. I agree the knee will be a big factor.



User avatar
bobcatozzy
2nd Team All-BobcatNation
Posts: 1236
Joined: Mon Oct 19, 2009 7:05 am

Re: TJ Session in portal.

Post by bobcatozzy » Mon May 02, 2022 7:16 pm



Rest In peace dad.

nanacat
2nd Team All-BobcatNation
Posts: 1314
Joined: Sat Oct 26, 2019 2:14 pm

Re: TJ Session in portal.

Post by nanacat » Mon May 02, 2022 7:22 pm

406 MT Sports has a Q&A with TJ where he explains his decision a bit more in depth. Can't get the link to copy. Anyway, wishing all the best to him and hope he can find a place that meets his needs but also where he can have great success meeting theirs!



nanacat
2nd Team All-BobcatNation
Posts: 1314
Joined: Sat Oct 26, 2019 2:14 pm

Re: TJ Session in portal.

Post by nanacat » Mon May 02, 2022 7:22 pm

Oh, well there it is 😊



User avatar
RickRund
Golden Bobcat
Posts: 7316
Joined: Tue Jun 22, 2010 6:08 pm
Location: Post Falls ID

Re: TJ Session in portal.

Post by RickRund » Mon May 02, 2022 7:26 pm

Like the last sentence. No, LOVE the last sentence.


msubobcats@outlook.com
Audiatur et altura pars: Let both sides be fairly heard.
Audi alteram partem: listen to the other side.

Post Reply