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I'm hard pressed to remember a time Eastern Washington didn't have a quarterback who wasn't among the best, if not the best quarterback in the conference/nation. We'll likely see the next one up in the fall.Prodigal Cat wrote: ↑Thu Mar 24, 2022 8:13 amI believe UC Davis had a Jr at QB but your point is still valid. Davis QB was serviceable but isn't a game changer like what Sac, NAU, and MSU have.TomCat88 wrote: ↑Thu Mar 24, 2022 6:34 amDunniway at SAC and Martinez are good, but MSU might just have the best two QBs in the BSC this year. I can't think of anyone besides Dunniway and Martinez that are returning.ibleedblue wrote: ↑Wed Mar 23, 2022 7:56 pmI don’t really look at the chambers deal in the same light. He started for a while at Wyoming (who in the end just wasn’t very good) and he lost that starting job. His stat line was pretty rough, too. I don’t think just because a guy started for a lowly FBS program automatically puts him in a better spot to come in and start over what we saw was a pretty electric QB who got some awesome wins down the stretch. I like your idea of dual QB when it makes sense. But chambers was done at WY whether he wanted to be or not so he had to go somewhere and he and Vigen have a past.Hi-Line Bobcat wrote: ↑Tue Mar 22, 2022 8:37 pmI would love to use them like NDSU used their two QBs. Tommy starts and is the day to day and Chambers gets 10-15 snaps a game as a big bruiser QB, who can make you pay if you think he is only in there to run. There is no doubt that Chambers will play, because you know he wasn’t told before he transferred here “you will have to out work the other QBs to see the field”. That just wouldn’t make sense for a QB to transfer down and not play, especially since he was a starter last year at Wyoming.
For me it’s simple, you play the best player at each position whomever that is, but we all know politics is still a big play even in college football.
The others I will be interested in watching is seeing what EWU has behind EB3. He was the best in the country at this level so they could have a stud waiting that we know nothing about because the starter was so good. What does Baldwin have down a CP. I know they were terrible but would it be surprising that he develops a legit QB after what he did time and again at EWU?
Coach Baldwin inherited a wishbone and it will take him a few seasonS to install his offense. I figure in a couple of seasons CP could be formadible.
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Re: Spring Ball 2022
Me either. I challenge someone to name the last average quarterback at EWU. Maybe they do have another stud, but you also need to keep in mind that they run an offense that, if the players around the QB are good, will put up big numbers. I’m not one to give someone credit for their stats. A lot of good players in every team sport are benefactors of the players around them and the system.FYI wrote: ↑Mon Mar 28, 2022 8:38 amI'm hard pressed to remember a time Eastern Washington didn't have a quarterback who wasn't among the best, if not the best quarterback in the conference/nation. We'll likely see the next one up in the fall.Prodigal Cat wrote: ↑Thu Mar 24, 2022 8:13 amI believe UC Davis had a Jr at QB but your point is still valid. Davis QB was serviceable but isn't a game changer like what Sac, NAU, and MSU have.TomCat88 wrote: ↑Thu Mar 24, 2022 6:34 amDunniway at SAC and Martinez are good, but MSU might just have the best two QBs in the BSC this year. I can't think of anyone besides Dunniway and Martinez that are returning.ibleedblue wrote: ↑Wed Mar 23, 2022 7:56 pmI don’t really look at the chambers deal in the same light. He started for a while at Wyoming (who in the end just wasn’t very good) and he lost that starting job. His stat line was pretty rough, too. I don’t think just because a guy started for a lowly FBS program automatically puts him in a better spot to come in and start over what we saw was a pretty electric QB who got some awesome wins down the stretch. I like your idea of dual QB when it makes sense. But chambers was done at WY whether he wanted to be or not so he had to go somewhere and he and Vigen have a past.Hi-Line Bobcat wrote: ↑Tue Mar 22, 2022 8:37 pmI would love to use them like NDSU used their two QBs. Tommy starts and is the day to day and Chambers gets 10-15 snaps a game as a big bruiser QB, who can make you pay if you think he is only in there to run. There is no doubt that Chambers will play, because you know he wasn’t told before he transferred here “you will have to out work the other QBs to see the field”. That just wouldn’t make sense for a QB to transfer down and not play, especially since he was a starter last year at Wyoming.
For me it’s simple, you play the best player at each position whomever that is, but we all know politics is still a big play even in college football.
The others I will be interested in watching is seeing what EWU has behind EB3. He was the best in the country at this level so they could have a stud waiting that we know nothing about because the starter was so good. What does Baldwin have down a CP. I know they were terrible but would it be surprising that he develops a legit QB after what he did time and again at EWU?
Coach Baldwin inherited a wishbone and it will take him a few seasonS to install his offense. I figure in a couple of seasons CP could be formadible.
He has one of the best coaching staffs in the FCS.
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Depth is great but make no mistake, if Tommy is healthy he’s taking every meaningful snap.Montanabob wrote: ↑Wed Mar 23, 2022 5:45 pmI would like to see at least three QB's get a lot of playing time. We have put too much emphasis on one qb, or lack of a QB, over the last 6 years. It is too long a season and too brutal for one QB to get to the nati.
Build depth.
Wait, we do that at all positions except qb?
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I am hoping that a combination of offensive output and defensive dominance lead to a large number of non-meaningful snaps.utucats wrote: ↑Tue Mar 29, 2022 6:38 amDepth is great but make no mistake, if Tommy is healthy he’s taking every meaningful snap.Montanabob wrote: ↑Wed Mar 23, 2022 5:45 pmI would like to see at least three QB's get a lot of playing time. We have put too much emphasis on one qb, or lack of a QB, over the last 6 years. It is too long a season and too brutal for one QB to get to the nati.
Build depth.
Wait, we do that at all positions except qb?
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I can absolutely get on board with building depth. Especially at runningback. However, I have no desire for us to rotate two, let alone three QBs. Most successful teams have their QB1 that takes most if not all the snaps. Sure, we can put Chambers in to run a wildcat or some other designed run. But, whoever the starter is (Tommy) should be take most if not all the meaningful snaps.utucats wrote: ↑Tue Mar 29, 2022 6:38 amDepth is great but make no mistake, if Tommy is healthy he’s taking every meaningful snap.Montanabob wrote: ↑Wed Mar 23, 2022 5:45 pmI would like to see at least three QB's get a lot of playing time. We have put too much emphasis on one qb, or lack of a QB, over the last 6 years. It is too long a season and too brutal for one QB to get to the nati.
Build depth.
Wait, we do that at all positions except qb?
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No reason we can’t rotate like what NDSU did.CodyCat wrote: ↑Tue Mar 29, 2022 10:17 amI can absolutely get on board with building depth. Especially at runningback. However, I have no desire for us to rotate two, let alone three QBs. Most successful teams have their QB1 that takes most if not all the snaps. Sure, we can put Chambers in to run a wildcat or some other designed run. But, whoever the starter is (Tommy) should be take most if not all the meaningful snaps.utucats wrote: ↑Tue Mar 29, 2022 6:38 amDepth is great but make no mistake, if Tommy is healthy he’s taking every meaningful snap.Montanabob wrote: ↑Wed Mar 23, 2022 5:45 pmI would like to see at least three QB's get a lot of playing time. We have put too much emphasis on one qb, or lack of a QB, over the last 6 years. It is too long a season and too brutal for one QB to get to the nati.
Build depth.
Wait, we do that at all positions except qb?
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Which I believe was the first time they’ve ran a two QB system.BelligerentBobcat wrote: ↑Tue Mar 29, 2022 11:41 amNo reason we can’t rotate like what NDSU did.CodyCat wrote: ↑Tue Mar 29, 2022 10:17 amI can absolutely get on board with building depth. Especially at runningback. However, I have no desire for us to rotate two, let alone three QBs. Most successful teams have their QB1 that takes most if not all the snaps. Sure, we can put Chambers in to run a wildcat or some other designed run. But, whoever the starter is (Tommy) should be take most if not all the meaningful snaps.utucats wrote: ↑Tue Mar 29, 2022 6:38 amDepth is great but make no mistake, if Tommy is healthy he’s taking every meaningful snap.Montanabob wrote: ↑Wed Mar 23, 2022 5:45 pmI would like to see at least three QB's get a lot of playing time. We have put too much emphasis on one qb, or lack of a QB, over the last 6 years. It is too long a season and too brutal for one QB to get to the nati.
Build depth.
Wait, we do that at all positions except qb?
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You can do about anything you want with NDSU's O-line, that doesn't mean we'll have success at it.BelligerentBobcat wrote: ↑Tue Mar 29, 2022 11:41 amNo reason we can’t rotate like what NDSU did.CodyCat wrote: ↑Tue Mar 29, 2022 10:17 amI can absolutely get on board with building depth. Especially at runningback. However, I have no desire for us to rotate two, let alone three QBs. Most successful teams have their QB1 that takes most if not all the snaps. Sure, we can put Chambers in to run a wildcat or some other designed run. But, whoever the starter is (Tommy) should be take most if not all the meaningful snaps.utucats wrote: ↑Tue Mar 29, 2022 6:38 amDepth is great but make no mistake, if Tommy is healthy he’s taking every meaningful snap.Montanabob wrote: ↑Wed Mar 23, 2022 5:45 pmI would like to see at least three QB's get a lot of playing time. We have put too much emphasis on one qb, or lack of a QB, over the last 6 years. It is too long a season and too brutal for one QB to get to the nati.
Build depth.
Wait, we do that at all positions except qb?
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Has anyone taken a stab at a two deep yet?
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We should have a two-deep relay. I'll start a thread for that.
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Challenge accepted. I submit the name of Kyle Padron. He started a few games before giving way to Vernon Adams Jr. I thought Kyle was average at best (at least for an EWU quality starting QB) Agree? Disagree?TomCat88 wrote: ↑Mon Mar 28, 2022 5:30 pmMe either. I challenge someone to name the last average quarterback at EWU. Maybe they do have another stud, but you also need to keep in mind that they run an offense that, if the players around the QB are good, will put up big numbers. I’m not one to give someone credit for their stats. A lot of good players in every team sport are benefactors of the players around them and the system.FYI wrote: ↑Mon Mar 28, 2022 8:38 amI'm hard pressed to remember a time Eastern Washington didn't have a quarterback who wasn't among the best, if not the best quarterback in the conference/nation. We'll likely see the next one up in the fall.Prodigal Cat wrote: ↑Thu Mar 24, 2022 8:13 amI believe UC Davis had a Jr at QB but your point is still valid. Davis QB was serviceable but isn't a game changer like what Sac, NAU, and MSU have.TomCat88 wrote: ↑Thu Mar 24, 2022 6:34 amDunniway at SAC and Martinez are good, but MSU might just have the best two QBs in the BSC this year. I can't think of anyone besides Dunniway and Martinez that are returning.ibleedblue wrote: ↑Wed Mar 23, 2022 7:56 pmI don’t really look at the chambers deal in the same light. He started for a while at Wyoming (who in the end just wasn’t very good) and he lost that starting job. His stat line was pretty rough, too. I don’t think just because a guy started for a lowly FBS program automatically puts him in a better spot to come in and start over what we saw was a pretty electric QB who got some awesome wins down the stretch. I like your idea of dual QB when it makes sense. But chambers was done at WY whether he wanted to be or not so he had to go somewhere and he and Vigen have a past.Hi-Line Bobcat wrote: ↑Tue Mar 22, 2022 8:37 pmI would love to use them like NDSU used their two QBs. Tommy starts and is the day to day and Chambers gets 10-15 snaps a game as a big bruiser QB, who can make you pay if you think he is only in there to run. There is no doubt that Chambers will play, because you know he wasn’t told before he transferred here “you will have to out work the other QBs to see the field”. That just wouldn’t make sense for a QB to transfer down and not play, especially since he was a starter last year at Wyoming.
For me it’s simple, you play the best player at each position whomever that is, but we all know politics is still a big play even in college football.
The others I will be interested in watching is seeing what EWU has behind EB3. He was the best in the country at this level so they could have a stud waiting that we know nothing about because the starter was so good. What does Baldwin have down a CP. I know they were terrible but would it be surprising that he develops a legit QB after what he did time and again at EWU?
Coach Baldwin inherited a wishbone and it will take him a few seasonS to install his offense. I figure in a couple of seasons CP could be formadible.
He has one of the best coaching staffs in the FCS.
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Ravi Alston can catch the ball. Very impressive today.
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That's good news. While I think Mellott is going to raise everyone's production, MSU still needs to replace McCutcheon's production. Regardless of QB Lance put up the numbers.
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I'm glad the WR can catch the ball
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Rylan Ortt is a lot faster than I thought. Just ran down Lane Sumner.
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