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Re: Montana Recruits 2023

Post by TomCat88 » Mon Dec 05, 2022 10:41 am

Talon Marsh, Capital

6-4, 235, sr

Two-time All-Stater; Set 10 CHS records: sacks – season (23) and career (42); hurries – game (9), season (37) and career (53); tackles for loss – game (4, tie), season (25) and career (59); career defensive points (1196); and career fumbles caused (6, tie); Also led team with 504 defensive points


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Re: Montana Recruits 2023

Post by VimSince03 » Mon Dec 05, 2022 10:51 am

TomCat88 wrote:
Mon Dec 05, 2022 10:41 am
Talon Marsh, Capital

6-4, 235, sr

Two-time All-Stater; Set 10 CHS records: sacks – season (23) and career (42); hurries – game (9), season (37) and career (53); tackles for loss – game (4, tie), season (25) and career (59); career defensive points (1196); and career fumbles caused (6, tie); Also led team with 504 defensive points
Talon is 6'2" and is already pretty rocked up in that 235 lb. frame which is likely why we get to have him in-state at the FCS level. Tom - how much do you think Talon can grow into or add on to his frame? Can he be a Chase Benson/Blake Schmidt (run stuffer who takes on blocks, pushes the pocket, and is excellent against the run) or a Sebastian Valdez (all-around great interior player who can do it all)?


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Re: Montana Recruits 2023

Post by BelligerentBobcat » Mon Dec 05, 2022 11:01 am

VimSince03 wrote:
Mon Dec 05, 2022 10:51 am
TomCat88 wrote:
Mon Dec 05, 2022 10:41 am
Talon Marsh, Capital

6-4, 235, sr

Two-time All-Stater; Set 10 CHS records: sacks – season (23) and career (42); hurries – game (9), season (37) and career (53); tackles for loss – game (4, tie), season (25) and career (59); career defensive points (1196); and career fumbles caused (6, tie); Also led team with 504 defensive points
Talon is 6'2" and is already pretty rocked up in that 235 lb. frame which is likely why we get to have him in-state at the FCS level. Tom - how much do you think Talon can grow into or add on to his frame? Can he be a Chase Benson/Blake Schmidt (run stuffer who takes on blocks, pushes the pocket, and is excellent against the run) or a Sebastian Valdez (all-around great interior player who can do it all)?
You don’t think he’ll play on the edge?



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Re: Montana Recruits 2023

Post by wbtfg » Mon Dec 05, 2022 11:07 am

BelligerentBobcat wrote:
Mon Dec 05, 2022 11:01 am
VimSince03 wrote:
Mon Dec 05, 2022 10:51 am
TomCat88 wrote:
Mon Dec 05, 2022 10:41 am
Talon Marsh, Capital

6-4, 235, sr

Two-time All-Stater; Set 10 CHS records: sacks – season (23) and career (42); hurries – game (9), season (37) and career (53); tackles for loss – game (4, tie), season (25) and career (59); career defensive points (1196); and career fumbles caused (6, tie); Also led team with 504 defensive points
Talon is 6'2" and is already pretty rocked up in that 235 lb. frame which is likely why we get to have him in-state at the FCS level. Tom - how much do you think Talon can grow into or add on to his frame? Can he be a Chase Benson/Blake Schmidt (run stuffer who takes on blocks, pushes the pocket, and is excellent against the run) or a Sebastian Valdez (all-around great interior player who can do it all)?
You don’t think he’ll play on the edge?
He played on the interior all year for capital, and was a manchild out there. He was stronger and quicker than everyone he went against and would completely take over games as a DT. I believe he's also a state champion wrestler. It will be interesting to see how he grows and develops in Bozeman.



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Re: Montana Recruits 2023

Post by BelligerentBobcat » Mon Dec 05, 2022 11:12 am

wbtfg wrote:
Mon Dec 05, 2022 11:07 am
BelligerentBobcat wrote:
Mon Dec 05, 2022 11:01 am
VimSince03 wrote:
Mon Dec 05, 2022 10:51 am
TomCat88 wrote:
Mon Dec 05, 2022 10:41 am
Talon Marsh, Capital

6-4, 235, sr

Two-time All-Stater; Set 10 CHS records: sacks – season (23) and career (42); hurries – game (9), season (37) and career (53); tackles for loss – game (4, tie), season (25) and career (59); career defensive points (1196); and career fumbles caused (6, tie); Also led team with 504 defensive points
Talon is 6'2" and is already pretty rocked up in that 235 lb. frame which is likely why we get to have him in-state at the FCS level. Tom - how much do you think Talon can grow into or add on to his frame? Can he be a Chase Benson/Blake Schmidt (run stuffer who takes on blocks, pushes the pocket, and is excellent against the run) or a Sebastian Valdez (all-around great interior player who can do it all)?
You don’t think he’ll play on the edge?
He played on the interior all year for capital, and was a manchild out there. He was stronger and quicker than everyone he went against and would completely take over games as a DT. I believe he's also a state champion wrestler. It will be interesting to see how he grows and develops in Bozeman.
Interesting. I saw his size and just assumed DE.



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Re: Montana Recruits 2023

Post by Helcat » Mon Dec 05, 2022 1:48 pm

VimSince03 wrote:
Mon Dec 05, 2022 10:51 am
TomCat88 wrote:
Mon Dec 05, 2022 10:41 am
Talon Marsh, Capital

6-4, 235, sr

Two-time All-Stater; Set 10 CHS records: sacks – season (23) and career (42); hurries – game (9), season (37) and career (53); tackles for loss – game (4, tie), season (25) and career (59); career defensive points (1196); and career fumbles caused (6, tie); Also led team with 504 defensive points
Talon is 6'2" and is already pretty rocked up in that 235 lb. frame which is likely why we get to have him in-state at the FCS level. Tom - how much do you think Talon can grow into or add on to his frame? Can he be a Chase Benson/Blake Schmidt (run stuffer who takes on blocks, pushes the pocket, and is excellent against the run) or a Sebastian Valdez (all-around great interior player who can do it all)?
He’s might be closer to 6’, but he’s probably the most disruptive unblockable player I’ve seen. Teams threw everything at him, and he continued to make plays. I think he is similar to Eiden (slower, but more twitch and stronger) but it all depends on how much weight he can carry. If he can get to 260+ and still be quick and effective, he could play inside. Just a great football player that you get on campus and see how he develops.



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Re: Montana Recruits 2023

Post by wbtfg » Mon Dec 05, 2022 2:07 pm

Helcat wrote:
Mon Dec 05, 2022 1:48 pm
VimSince03 wrote:
Mon Dec 05, 2022 10:51 am
TomCat88 wrote:
Mon Dec 05, 2022 10:41 am
Talon Marsh, Capital

6-4, 235, sr

Two-time All-Stater; Set 10 CHS records: sacks – season (23) and career (42); hurries – game (9), season (37) and career (53); tackles for loss – game (4, tie), season (25) and career (59); career defensive points (1196); and career fumbles caused (6, tie); Also led team with 504 defensive points
Talon is 6'2" and is already pretty rocked up in that 235 lb. frame which is likely why we get to have him in-state at the FCS level. Tom - how much do you think Talon can grow into or add on to his frame? Can he be a Chase Benson/Blake Schmidt (run stuffer who takes on blocks, pushes the pocket, and is excellent against the run) or a Sebastian Valdez (all-around great interior player who can do it all)?
He’s might be closer to 6’, but he’s probably the most disruptive unblockable player I’ve seen. Teams threw everything at him, and he continued to make plays. I think he is similar to Eiden (slower, but more twitch and stronger) but it all depends on how much weight he can carry. If he can get to 260+ and still be quick and effective, he could play inside. Just a great football player that you get on campus and see how he develops.
I view him has a tucker yates type of player, but with quicker twitch. He definitely needs to put on some weight. If he does, I think he could be a really good player for us in a few years.



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Re: Montana Recruits 2023

Post by TomCat88 » Wed Dec 07, 2022 11:48 am

VimSince03 wrote:
Mon Dec 05, 2022 10:51 am
TomCat88 wrote:
Mon Dec 05, 2022 10:41 am
Talon Marsh, Capital

6-4, 235, sr

Two-time All-Stater; Set 10 CHS records: sacks – season (23) and career (42); hurries – game (9), season (37) and career (53); tackles for loss – game (4, tie), season (25) and career (59); career defensive points (1196); and career fumbles caused (6, tie); Also led team with 504 defensive points
Talon is 6'2" and is already pretty rocked up in that 235 lb. frame which is likely why we get to have him in-state at the FCS level. Tom - how much do you think Talon can grow into or add on to his frame? Can he be a Chase Benson/Blake Schmidt (run stuffer who takes on blocks, pushes the pocket, and is excellent against the run) or a Sebastian Valdez (all-around great interior player who can do it all)?
Ever since my gym closed down 😡 I’ve lost contacts, so I have no clue. Like everyone else, I thought (based on his stats) he was a DE. I didn’t realize he was a DT until the aa playoffs started. My hunch is that CHS had dudes to play DE so they figured they’d get more production as a team with Marsh at DT. He moves and plays like a DE. I’ll run into someone eventually and get some better info.

As we all know the FCS is chock full of great players who don’t have the dimensions that P5 leagues are looking for.

There’s a definite “wow factor” to him. Seems destined to find a position and blossom.


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Re: Montana Recruits 2023

Post by catatac » Wed Dec 07, 2022 3:52 pm

Helcat wrote:
Mon Dec 05, 2022 1:48 pm
VimSince03 wrote:
Mon Dec 05, 2022 10:51 am
TomCat88 wrote:
Mon Dec 05, 2022 10:41 am
Talon Marsh, Capital

6-4, 235, sr

Two-time All-Stater; Set 10 CHS records: sacks – season (23) and career (42); hurries – game (9), season (37) and career (53); tackles for loss – game (4, tie), season (25) and career (59); career defensive points (1196); and career fumbles caused (6, tie); Also led team with 504 defensive points
Talon is 6'2" and is already pretty rocked up in that 235 lb. frame which is likely why we get to have him in-state at the FCS level. Tom - how much do you think Talon can grow into or add on to his frame? Can he be a Chase Benson/Blake Schmidt (run stuffer who takes on blocks, pushes the pocket, and is excellent against the run) or a Sebastian Valdez (all-around great interior player who can do it all)?
He’s might be closer to 6’, but he’s probably the most disruptive unblockable player I’ve seen. Teams threw everything at him, and he continued to make plays. I think he is similar to Eiden (slower, but more twitch and stronger) but it all depends on how much weight he can carry. If he can get to 260+ and still be quick and effective, he could play inside. Just a great football player that you get on campus and see how he develops.
lol, so he went from 6' 4" to 6 even pretty quick!


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Re: Montana Recruits 2023

Post by kennethnoisewater » Wed Dec 07, 2022 4:17 pm

catatac wrote:
Wed Dec 07, 2022 3:52 pm
Helcat wrote:
Mon Dec 05, 2022 1:48 pm
VimSince03 wrote:
Mon Dec 05, 2022 10:51 am
TomCat88 wrote:
Mon Dec 05, 2022 10:41 am
Talon Marsh, Capital

6-4, 235, sr

Two-time All-Stater; Set 10 CHS records: sacks – season (23) and career (42); hurries – game (9), season (37) and career (53); tackles for loss – game (4, tie), season (25) and career (59); career defensive points (1196); and career fumbles caused (6, tie); Also led team with 504 defensive points
Talon is 6'2" and is already pretty rocked up in that 235 lb. frame which is likely why we get to have him in-state at the FCS level. Tom - how much do you think Talon can grow into or add on to his frame? Can he be a Chase Benson/Blake Schmidt (run stuffer who takes on blocks, pushes the pocket, and is excellent against the run) or a Sebastian Valdez (all-around great interior player who can do it all)?
He’s might be closer to 6’, but he’s probably the most disruptive unblockable player I’ve seen. Teams threw everything at him, and he continued to make plays. I think he is similar to Eiden (slower, but more twitch and stronger) but it all depends on how much weight he can carry. If he can get to 260+ and still be quick and effective, he could play inside. Just a great football player that you get on campus and see how he develops.
lol, so he went from 6' 4" to 6 even pretty quick!
Oh crap, he'll be 5'3" by the time he's a senior. Better keep looking!


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Re: Montana Recruits 2023

Post by BobcatDel » Wed Dec 07, 2022 11:28 pm

kennethnoisewater wrote:
Wed Dec 07, 2022 4:17 pm
catatac wrote:
Wed Dec 07, 2022 3:52 pm
Helcat wrote:
Mon Dec 05, 2022 1:48 pm
VimSince03 wrote:
Mon Dec 05, 2022 10:51 am
TomCat88 wrote:
Mon Dec 05, 2022 10:41 am
Talon Marsh, Capital

6-4, 235, sr

Two-time All-Stater; Set 10 CHS records: sacks – season (23) and career (42); hurries – game (9), season (37) and career (53); tackles for loss – game (4, tie), season (25) and career (59); career defensive points (1196); and career fumbles caused (6, tie); Also led team with 504 defensive points
Talon is 6'2" and is already pretty rocked up in that 235 lb. frame which is likely why we get to have him in-state at the FCS level. Tom - how much do you think Talon can grow into or add on to his frame? Can he be a Chase Benson/Blake Schmidt (run stuffer who takes on blocks, pushes the pocket, and is excellent against the run) or a Sebastian Valdez (all-around great interior player who can do it all)?
He’s might be closer to 6’, but he’s probably the most disruptive unblockable player I’ve seen. Teams threw everything at him, and he continued to make plays. I think he is similar to Eiden (slower, but more twitch and stronger) but it all depends on how much weight he can carry. If he can get to 260+ and still be quick and effective, he could play inside. Just a great football player that you get on campus and see how he develops.
lol, so he went from 6' 4" to 6 even pretty quick!
Oh crap, he'll be 5'3" by the time he's a senior. Better keep looking!
You beat me to it. I was thinking he might have shriveled to 5’10” and 175 lbs before we could convince administrators to lock the thread!!!! Hope whatever he has is not contagious!



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Re: Montana Recruits 2023

Post by BelligerentBobcat » Thu Dec 08, 2022 7:59 am

BobcatDel wrote:
Wed Dec 07, 2022 11:28 pm
kennethnoisewater wrote:
Wed Dec 07, 2022 4:17 pm
catatac wrote:
Wed Dec 07, 2022 3:52 pm
Helcat wrote:
Mon Dec 05, 2022 1:48 pm
VimSince03 wrote:
Mon Dec 05, 2022 10:51 am
TomCat88 wrote:
Mon Dec 05, 2022 10:41 am
Talon Marsh, Capital

6-4, 235, sr

Two-time All-Stater; Set 10 CHS records: sacks – season (23) and career (42); hurries – game (9), season (37) and career (53); tackles for loss – game (4, tie), season (25) and career (59); career defensive points (1196); and career fumbles caused (6, tie); Also led team with 504 defensive points
Talon is 6'2" and is already pretty rocked up in that 235 lb. frame which is likely why we get to have him in-state at the FCS level. Tom - how much do you think Talon can grow into or add on to his frame? Can he be a Chase Benson/Blake Schmidt (run stuffer who takes on blocks, pushes the pocket, and is excellent against the run) or a Sebastian Valdez (all-around great interior player who can do it all)?
He’s might be closer to 6’, but he’s probably the most disruptive unblockable player I’ve seen. Teams threw everything at him, and he continued to make plays. I think he is similar to Eiden (slower, but more twitch and stronger) but it all depends on how much weight he can carry. If he can get to 260+ and still be quick and effective, he could play inside. Just a great football player that you get on campus and see how he develops.
lol, so he went from 6' 4" to 6 even pretty quick!
Oh crap, he'll be 5'3" by the time he's a senior. Better keep looking!
You beat me to it. I was thinking he might have shriveled to 5’10” and 175 lbs before we could convince administrators to lock the thread!!!! Hope whatever he has is not contagious!
I’d take some of that on the weight side.



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Re: Montana Recruits 2023

Post by Bobcat1boz » Mon Dec 12, 2022 8:52 pm

three star RB/LB recruit from Texas Luke Anderson decommited from MSU.



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Re: Montana Recruits 2023

Post by VimSince03 » Mon Dec 12, 2022 9:08 pm

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Mon Dec 12, 2022 8:52 pm
three star RB/LB recruit from Texas Luke Anderson decommited from MSU.
That has nothing to do with Montana recruits. Plus it's been on three other threads already...including the primary recruiting thread. We have had high profile recruits decommit roughly every year for the past decade. It sucks but it's part of the recruiting cycle.


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Re: Montana Recruits 2023

Post by Go Scats Go » Thu Dec 15, 2022 9:01 pm

VimSince03 wrote:
Mon Dec 12, 2022 9:08 pm
Bobcat1boz wrote:
Mon Dec 12, 2022 8:52 pm
three star RB/LB recruit from Texas Luke Anderson decommited from MSU.
That has nothing to do with Montana recruits. Plus it's been on three other threads already...including the primary recruiting thread. We have had high profile recruits decommit roughly every year for the past decade. It sucks but it's part of the recruiting cycle.
It's the Boom or Bust approach the cats use.

I wish the Griz employed at least some of this.


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Re: Montana Recruits 2023

Post by BelligerentBobcat » Thu Dec 15, 2022 9:40 pm

Go Scats Go wrote:
Thu Dec 15, 2022 9:01 pm
VimSince03 wrote:
Mon Dec 12, 2022 9:08 pm
Bobcat1boz wrote:
Mon Dec 12, 2022 8:52 pm
three star RB/LB recruit from Texas Luke Anderson decommited from MSU.
That has nothing to do with Montana recruits. Plus it's been on three other threads already...including the primary recruiting thread. We have had high profile recruits decommit roughly every year for the past decade. It sucks but it's part of the recruiting cycle.
It's the Boom or Bust approach the cats use.

I wish the Griz employed at least some of this.
Boom or bust? I’m not sure you understand how recruiting works Peyton. Just because MSU offers more than UM doesn’t make it boom or bust, or pray n spray, or whatever you all say over on your site.

And there ain’t been much “bust”.



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Re: Montana Recruits 2023

Post by wbtfg » Thu Dec 15, 2022 10:42 pm

Go Scats Go wrote:
Thu Dec 15, 2022 9:01 pm
VimSince03 wrote:
Mon Dec 12, 2022 9:08 pm
Bobcat1boz wrote:
Mon Dec 12, 2022 8:52 pm
three star RB/LB recruit from Texas Luke Anderson decommited from MSU.
That has nothing to do with Montana recruits. Plus it's been on three other threads already...including the primary recruiting thread. We have had high profile recruits decommit roughly every year for the past decade. It sucks but it's part of the recruiting cycle.
It's the Boom or Bust approach the cats use.

I wish the Griz employed at least some of this.
I hear ya man. I wish we'd employ the full proof strategy of picking up a new grad transfer qb every year.



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Re: Montana Recruits 2023

Post by kiddc87 » Fri Dec 16, 2022 2:01 pm

wbtfg wrote:
Thu Nov 10, 2022 2:36 pm
BelligerentBobcat wrote:
Thu Nov 10, 2022 2:29 pm
ilovethecats wrote:
Thu Nov 10, 2022 1:20 pm
Really want Carter in Blue and Gold
Almost inexcusable if he isn’t, with the family history and his size/speed.
Maybe, maybe not. There are so many variables involved in recruiting, nothing is a sure thing one way or the other.
https://www.ktvh.com/news/capitals-tom- ... o-big-star



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Re: Montana Recruits 2023

Post by wbtfg » Fri Dec 16, 2022 2:09 pm

kiddc87 wrote:
Fri Dec 16, 2022 2:01 pm
wbtfg wrote:
Thu Nov 10, 2022 2:36 pm
BelligerentBobcat wrote:
Thu Nov 10, 2022 2:29 pm
ilovethecats wrote:
Thu Nov 10, 2022 1:20 pm
Really want Carter in Blue and Gold
Almost inexcusable if he isn’t, with the family history and his size/speed.
Maybe, maybe not. There are so many variables involved in recruiting, nothing is a sure thing one way or the other.
https://www.ktvh.com/news/capitals-tom- ... o-big-star
Yeah, I saw that last week. He seems like an awesome kid with an amazing work ethic and is obviously from a football family. It will be interesting to see if he ends up on offense or defense. I'm sure, wherever he chooses, he'll have an opportunity to be a special teams contributor right away.

Would love to see him in Bozeman, as I think someone with his skillset can be really dynamic in this offense.



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Re: Montana Recruits 2023

Post by VimSince03 » Fri Dec 16, 2022 2:35 pm

wbtfg wrote:
Fri Dec 16, 2022 2:09 pm
kiddc87 wrote:
Fri Dec 16, 2022 2:01 pm
wbtfg wrote:
Thu Nov 10, 2022 2:36 pm
BelligerentBobcat wrote:
Thu Nov 10, 2022 2:29 pm
ilovethecats wrote:
Thu Nov 10, 2022 1:20 pm
Really want Carter in Blue and Gold
Almost inexcusable if he isn’t, with the family history and his size/speed.
Maybe, maybe not. There are so many variables involved in recruiting, nothing is a sure thing one way or the other.
https://www.ktvh.com/news/capitals-tom- ... o-big-star
Yeah, I saw that last week. He seems like an awesome kid with an amazing work ethic and is obviously from a football family. It will be interesting to see if he ends up on offense or defense. I'm sure, wherever he chooses, he'll have an opportunity to be a special teams contributor right away.

Would love to see him in Bozeman, as I think someone with his skillset can be really dynamic in this offense.
Reading between the lines here but Tom had a great senior season and its lead to an increase in recruiting interest. Due to the legacy factor, I think if he had what he wanted from MSU in terms of a scholarship, he would've committed already. But I have a feeling MSU has stood pat on their offer and UM has actually offered more. Now the holding pattern likely has to due with out-of-state interest from a FBS school in the form of a potential PWO offer coming his way. I wouldn't be surprised if Tom waits on committing in-state and takes visits in January whether that be officials to MSU, UM, or a FBS school.


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