What is needed to beat NDSU?
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What is needed to beat NDSU?
The Answer- We need to have an undefeated regular season. Getting us a higher seed in the playoffs, forcing a home game in Bozeman.
As i see it, this is really our only chance. Getting home field advantage, which is HUGE in Bozeman. NDSU is not changing, they haven't changed for 9 years now. Yes, we can keep getting bigger, stronger, etc...... but so are they.... I really think our only chance is to get them to come to Bozeman.
random thought. go cats. helluva season!!!!!
As i see it, this is really our only chance. Getting home field advantage, which is HUGE in Bozeman. NDSU is not changing, they haven't changed for 9 years now. Yes, we can keep getting bigger, stronger, etc...... but so are they.... I really think our only chance is to get them to come to Bozeman.
random thought. go cats. helluva season!!!!!
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Re: What is needed to beat NDSU?
We need to be bigger up front in both sides of the ball. Plain and simple. As much as it pains me especially I’m defense. The Bison center never lost a battle all day.
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Re: What is needed to beat NDSU?
Getting them on the same side of the bracket in Bozeman would we about our best shot.mslacatfan wrote: ↑Sat Jan 08, 2022 2:51 pmThe Answer- We need to have an undefeated regular season. Getting us a higher seed in the playoffs, forcing a home game in Bozeman.
As i see it, this is really our only chance. Getting home field advantage, which is HUGE in Bozeman. NDSU is not changing, they haven't changed for 9 years now. Yes, we can keep getting bigger, stronger, etc...... but so are they.... I really think our only chance is to get them to come to Bozeman.
random thought. go cats. helluva season!!!!!
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Re: What is needed to beat NDSU?
Today’s game was decided in the battle of their Oline vs our Dline. That’s literally it. Get better there and everything improves.
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Re: What is needed to beat NDSU?
Better OL and DL. And as great as Troy is at so many things, he isn’t great at taking on blocks. Need some backers who can do that.
It’s tough. The Bison are very good and have a lot of advantages. The get the very best of the borderline FBS players.
It’s tough. The Bison are very good and have a lot of advantages. The get the very best of the borderline FBS players.
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Re: What is needed to beat NDSU?
What is really interesting is if there was a year to beat ndsu in the chipper, this was it. They have everyone back and will be even better next year.
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Re: What is needed to beat NDSU?
I think the word your thinking of is depressing. That is really depressingibleedblue wrote: ↑Sat Jan 08, 2022 3:15 pmWhat is really interesting is if there was a year to beat ndsu in the chipper, this was it. They have everyone back and will be even better next year.
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Re: What is needed to beat NDSU?
We need to play on a different surface. We may not have qon but it's a much more even game.
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Re: What is needed to beat NDSU?
NDSU beats teams on the line of scrimmage. Their QB wasn't touched all day and the RBs were already 7-8 yards downfield before contact was made. On the other side of the ball, their d-line made it impossible to get our game plan going.
We need to continue getting bigger, stronger, and more deep on the lines. Great skill players are awesome to have, but the lines need to be our key emphasis in recruiting.
We need to continue getting bigger, stronger, and more deep on the lines. Great skill players are awesome to have, but the lines need to be our key emphasis in recruiting.
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Re: What is needed to beat NDSU?
I thought our o-line was ok today. Yards were tough, but there. Roving had a few nice throws early that were dropped that would’ve put us in scoring position.
But our d-line got pushed around all game long. How many first down 8-9 yard runs did they have? Third and longs? We got handled up front and blockers got to the second level. That is where we need the most improvement, which hurts to say because that was a strength all year long.
But our d-line got pushed around all game long. How many first down 8-9 yard runs did they have? Third and longs? We got handled up front and blockers got to the second level. That is where we need the most improvement, which hurts to say because that was a strength all year long.
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Re: What is needed to beat NDSU?
Agreed, I feel that our O line held their own. Wasn’t great, but they weren’t a liability by any means. Our D line vs their O line is where this game was lost. And it’s not close.MTCowpoke22 wrote: ↑Sat Jan 08, 2022 3:58 pmI thought our o-line was ok today. Yards were tough, but there. Roving had a few nice throws early that were dropped that would’ve put us in scoring position.
But our d-line got pushed around all game long. How many first down 8-9 yard runs did they have? Third and longs? We got handled up front and blockers got to the second level. That is where we need the most improvement, which hurts to say because that was a strength all year long.
Size wise, that’s an NFL O line that NDSU is putting out there. Running our 250-260lb Dlineman is only going to get so far against those guys. We need two Chase Bensons out there on the interior to help take up blocks and get a push to free up the DE’s a bit, and unfortunately today we didn’t have that.
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Re: What is needed to beat NDSU?
Simple answer: invest big time in recruiting offensive and defensive linemen.
It is very clear, and it blows my mind, that NDSUs BIGS are dominant. They almost literally have an NFL offensive line.
No matter how much some things change, some things stay the same: football is a game won and lost by big men. True at every level.
In this era of video game and fantasy football, it's sometimes forgotten.
I'm hoping this is Vigen's plan
It is very clear, and it blows my mind, that NDSUs BIGS are dominant. They almost literally have an NFL offensive line.
No matter how much some things change, some things stay the same: football is a game won and lost by big men. True at every level.
In this era of video game and fantasy football, it's sometimes forgotten.
I'm hoping this is Vigen's plan
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Re: What is needed to beat NDSU?
I think the field conditions favored the OL today. Entz said as much in his post game presser. Running to the perimeter was also a problem. Running between the tackles is NDSU's specialty, we are better at running on the edge, the conditions played to NDSU's strength and diminished our strength.MTCowpoke22 wrote: ↑Sat Jan 08, 2022 3:58 pmI thought our o-line was ok today. Yards were tough, but there. Roving had a few nice throws early that were dropped that would’ve put us in scoring position.
But our d-line got pushed around all game long. How many first down 8-9 yard runs did they have? Third and longs? We got handled up front and blockers got to the second level. That is where we need the most improvement, which hurts to say because that was a strength all year long.
By far not the only reason we lost but it was another factor.
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Re: What is needed to beat NDSU?
They converted at least 4 3rd and 7 or longers that I remember. We are a read and react defense and we couldn't do that on that field. We had several chances to get off the field on their first drive and gave up big plays on 3rd...MTCowpoke22 wrote: ↑Sat Jan 08, 2022 3:58 pmI thought our o-line was ok today. Yards were tough, but there. Roving had a few nice throws early that were dropped that would’ve put us in scoring position.
But our d-line got pushed around all game long. How many first down 8-9 yard runs did they have? Third and longs? We got handled up front and blockers got to the second level. That is where we need the most improvement, which hurts to say because that was a strength all year long.
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Re: What is needed to beat NDSU?
It’s almost like you have to build a team to run power between the tackles on that joke of a football field.
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Re: What is needed to beat NDSU?
We have to get better. We're getting better, but we and the rest of the FCS aren't closing the gap with NDSU. Depth at QB killed us today. I can't wait to see who transfers in for Vigen this year, and who the new coaches are. We need an indoor practice facility. We need to keep the faith - what a fantastic, fun season, so proud to be a Bobcat!!mslacatfan wrote: ↑Sat Jan 08, 2022 2:51 pmThe Answer- We need to have an undefeated regular season. Getting us a higher seed in the playoffs, forcing a home game in Bozeman.
As i see it, this is really our only chance. Getting home field advantage, which is HUGE in Bozeman. NDSU is not changing, they haven't changed for 9 years now. Yes, we can keep getting bigger, stronger, etc...... but so are they.... I really think our only chance is to get them to come to Bozeman.
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Re: What is needed to beat NDSU?
Um.....NDSU just beat you on a neutral site.mslacatfan wrote: ↑Sat Jan 08, 2022 2:51 pmThe Answer- We need to have an undefeated regular season. Getting us a higher seed in the playoffs, forcing a home game in Bozeman.
As i see it, this is really our only chance. Getting home field advantage, which is HUGE in Bozeman. NDSU is not changing, they haven't changed for 9 years now. Yes, we can keep getting bigger, stronger, etc...... but so are they.... I really think our only chance is to get them to come to Bozeman.
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Re: What is needed to beat NDSU?
Both teams play at home on artificial turf. Both teams played on the same field. No advantage one way or another.cats2506 wrote: ↑Sat Jan 08, 2022 4:22 pmI think the field conditions favored the OL today. Entz said as much in his post game presser. Running to the perimeter was also a problem. Running between the tackles is NDSU's specialty, we are better at running on the edge, the conditions played to NDSU's strength and diminished our strength.MTCowpoke22 wrote: ↑Sat Jan 08, 2022 3:58 pmI thought our o-line was ok today. Yards were tough, but there. Roving had a few nice throws early that were dropped that would’ve put us in scoring position.
But our d-line got pushed around all game long. How many first down 8-9 yard runs did they have? Third and longs? We got handled up front and blockers got to the second level. That is where we need the most improvement, which hurts to say because that was a strength all year long.
By far not the only reason we lost but it was another factor.