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Post by utucats » Sun Dec 05, 2021 1:46 am

It’s been talked about a lot, but SHSU has had a cake of a schedule. I expect our defense is going to continue their domination even against the defending champs.

Looking at the total defense numbers here is what SHSU has faced this year:

NAU - Defense not in the Top 50 in FCS(42-16)
SEMO - Defense not in the Top 50 in FCS(52-14)
Central Arkansas - Defense not in Top 50 in FCS(45-35)
Stephen F Austin - #17 defense in FCS(21-20)
Lamar - Defense not in Top 50 in FCS(41-7)
Jacksonville State - Defense not in Top 50 in FCS(42-7)
Tarleton State - Defense not in Top 50 in FCS(45-27)
Dixie State - Defense not in Top 50 in FCS(59-10)
Eastern Kentucky - Defense not in Top 50 in FCS(42-28)
Abilene Christian - Defense not in Top 50 in FCS(35-9)
Incarnate Word - Defense not in Top 50 in FCS(49-42)

One game this year against a Top 50 defense and they score a season low 21 and only win by a point.

SFA defense is ranked 17 and gives up 311.4 yards per game. Our Cats D is ranked 11 and gives up 280.6 per game.


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Re: Sam Houston

Post by VimSince03 » Sun Dec 05, 2021 1:58 am

utucats wrote:
Sun Dec 05, 2021 1:46 am
It’s been talked about a lot, but SHSU has had a cake of a schedule. I expect our defense is going to continue their domination even against the defending champs.

Looking at the total defense numbers here is what SHSU has faced this year:

NAU - Defense not in the Top 50 in FCS(42-16)
SEMO - Defense not in the Top 50 in FCS(52-14)
Central Arkansas - Defense not in Top 50 in FCS(45-35)
Stephen F Austin - #17 defense in FCS(21-20)
Lamar - Defense not in Top 50 in FCS(41-7)
Jacksonville State - Defense not in Top 50 in FCS(42-7)
Tarleton State - Defense not in Top 50 in FCS(45-27)
Dixie State - Defense not in Top 50 in FCS(59-10)
Eastern Kentucky - Defense not in Top 50 in FCS(42-28)
Abilene Christian - Defense not in Top 50 in FCS(35-9)
Incarnate Word - Defense not in Top 50 in FCS(49-42)

One game this year against a Top 50 defense and they score a season low 21 and only win by a point.

SFA defense is ranked 17 and gives up 311.4 yards per game. Our Cats D is ranked 11 and gives up 280.6 per game.
Fair to note their star QB didn't play in that SFA game. However, I agree...our defense will be a tough task for them.
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Re: Sam Houston

Post by Helcat72 » Sun Dec 05, 2021 4:55 am

They have lots of S P E E D!


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Re: Sam Houston

Post by utucats » Sun Dec 05, 2021 8:55 am

VimSince03 wrote:
Sun Dec 05, 2021 1:58 am
utucats wrote:
Sun Dec 05, 2021 1:46 am
It’s been talked about a lot, but SHSU has had a cake of a schedule. I expect our defense is going to continue their domination even against the defending champs.

Looking at the total defense numbers here is what SHSU has faced this year:

NAU - Defense not in the Top 50 in FCS(42-16)
SEMO - Defense not in the Top 50 in FCS(52-14)
Central Arkansas - Defense not in Top 50 in FCS(45-35)
Stephen F Austin - #17 defense in FCS(21-20)
Lamar - Defense not in Top 50 in FCS(41-7)
Jacksonville State - Defense not in Top 50 in FCS(42-7)
Tarleton State - Defense not in Top 50 in FCS(45-27)
Dixie State - Defense not in Top 50 in FCS(59-10)
Eastern Kentucky - Defense not in Top 50 in FCS(42-28)
Abilene Christian - Defense not in Top 50 in FCS(35-9)
Incarnate Word - Defense not in Top 50 in FCS(49-42)

One game this year against a Top 50 defense and they score a season low 21 and only win by a point.

SFA defense is ranked 17 and gives up 311.4 yards per game. Our Cats D is ranked 11 and gives up 280.6 per game.
Fair to note their star QB didn't playing in that SFA game. However, I agree...our defense will be a tough task for them.
#-o I didn't realize that about their QB. I obviously don't follow them, just been doing some closer looking now that they are next up. That certainly puts an asterisk on the SFA defensive performance.


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Re: Sam Houston

Post by mslacatfan » Sun Dec 05, 2021 9:04 am

I like our chances!

Can’t wait for this game to get here. Go cats!


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Re: Sam Houston

Post by MSU01 » Sun Dec 05, 2021 9:06 am

I feel like we'll need a score in the 20s like the EWU game to have a decent shot at winning this one. I have no doubt this defense can achieve that (or better). Go Cats!



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Post by utucats » Sun Dec 05, 2021 9:16 am

Looking at their regular season schedule, they only played 3 teams that ended the year with a winning record.

The combined overall record of their opponents was 47-63.

Not saying that means that they aren't a great team but I don't think they've been battle tested much. We certainly have been, hoping that bodes well for us.
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Re: Sam Houston

Post by ND0479 » Sun Dec 05, 2021 9:17 am

We’ll shut their run game down and force Eric Schmidt to make plays, which he’s an absolute gamer. If we can just limit their big plays in the passing game, it’ll be in Tommy’s hands with us just needing him to be a decent passer.

We’ve beaten better teams this year.



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Re: Sam Houston

Post by Bocephus » Sun Dec 05, 2021 9:39 am

The interesting matchup will be our Offense vs their defense. Anyone want to dig up some stats on their D? Are they susceptible to the run?



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Re: Sam Houston

Post by 91catAlum » Sun Dec 05, 2021 9:50 am

Bocephus wrote:
Sun Dec 05, 2021 9:39 am
The interesting matchup will be our Offense vs their defense. Anyone want to dig up some stats on their D? Are they susceptible to the run?
The are tough against the run, not great against the pass. Which of course is not an ideal matchup for our offense. We're gonna have to show that we can throw the ball.


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Re: Sam Houston

Post by utucats » Sun Dec 05, 2021 10:12 am

Bocephus wrote:
Sun Dec 05, 2021 9:39 am
The interesting matchup will be our Offense vs their defense. Anyone want to dig up some stats on their D? Are they susceptible to the run?
They have the #2 rush defense in FCS. However, they haven't played many great running teams.

The best rushing team they have played to date is SEMO, who has the #20 rushing offense in FCS. SEMO averages 195.6 rushing yards per game and SHSU held them to only 103 yards and 2.9 yards per rush.

Looking through the box scores is a little disheartening as they have only allowed 3 teams to rush for over 100 yards this season. Jacksonville State had the high water mark for yards per rush with only 3.7 an attempt. They certainly have been stout in run D.

Interesting note though, UIW broke the mold a bit this past week. They had so much luck passing that they didn't need to run much but they still managed 119 yards rushing and had an average of 5.4 yards per rush.

It's obvious that they can stop the run but the weakness of the teams they played should be taken into account. We will bring our #9 rushing offense at 218.5 yards per game and will easily be the best rushing offense they have seen.


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Re: Sam Houston

Post by onceacat » Sun Dec 05, 2021 11:07 am

utucats wrote:
Sun Dec 05, 2021 1:46 am
It’s been talked about a lot, but SHSU has had a cake of a schedule. I expect our defense is going to continue their domination even against the defending champs.

Looking at the total defense numbers here is what SHSU has faced this year:

NAU - Defense not in the Top 50 in FCS(42-16)
SEMO - Defense not in the Top 50 in FCS(52-14)
Central Arkansas - Defense not in Top 50 in FCS(45-35)
Stephen F Austin - #17 defense in FCS(21-20)
Lamar - Defense not in Top 50 in FCS(41-7)
Jacksonville State - Defense not in Top 50 in FCS(42-7)
Tarleton State - Defense not in Top 50 in FCS(45-27)
Dixie State - Defense not in Top 50 in FCS(59-10)
Eastern Kentucky - Defense not in Top 50 in FCS(42-28)
Abilene Christian - Defense not in Top 50 in FCS(35-9)
Incarnate Word - Defense not in Top 50 in FCS(49-42)

One game this year against a Top 50 defense and they score a season low 21 and only win by a point.

SFA defense is ranked 17 and gives up 311.4 yards per game. Our Cats D is ranked 11 and gives up 280.6 per game.
Their QB was out against SFA.

They HAVE been battle tested. This team won the fake national championship last spring, beating NDSU, JMU, and SDSU. Normally, I'd put less stock in last year, but because of the covid eligibility rule, basically 100% of the team returned.

So not only is this the most tested team in the field, its also been able to rest guys for significant stretches of the season while beating up on teams like Tarleton St.

I'm pretty confident in our D. Troy & Co should hold them to under 24. I'm not confident at all in the O. Even though the O looked a lot better yesterday with Tommy at the helm, Sammy will be every bit as tough against the run as UM. Certainly tougher than any other non-UM team. They look like they might be a little susceptible to the pass...so if Tommy can pass like UIWs stud NFL prospect, then the Cats should be able to move the ball & put up points If Sammy can stack the box and sell out to stop the run like UM, its going to be a fast, disappointing trip to TX.
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Re: Sam Houston

Post by onceacat » Sun Dec 05, 2021 11:15 am

Bocephus wrote:
Sun Dec 05, 2021 9:39 am
The interesting matchup will be our Offense vs their defense. Anyone want to dig up some stats on their D? Are they susceptible to the run?
They have the #2 or #3 run defense in the country. Like UM quality stout. Their DE is a 2nd time Buchanan finalist & will be playing on Sundays.



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Re: Sam Houston

Post by aucat » Sun Dec 05, 2021 11:39 am

I think it boils down to our being able to have a balanced offensive attack and that means Tommy will need to make good throws. I know he is capable of doing that. Go Cats



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Re: Sam Houston

Post by Hawks86 » Sun Dec 05, 2021 11:56 am

Just heard the football team ran out of bubblegum.


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Just heard the football team ran out of bubblegum.
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Re: Sam Houston

Post by utucats » Sun Dec 05, 2021 2:17 pm

onceacat wrote:
Sun Dec 05, 2021 11:07 am
utucats wrote:
Sun Dec 05, 2021 1:46 am
It’s been talked about a lot, but SHSU has had a cake of a schedule. I expect our defense is going to continue their domination even against the defending champs.

Looking at the total defense numbers here is what SHSU has faced this year:

NAU - Defense not in the Top 50 in FCS(42-16)
SEMO - Defense not in the Top 50 in FCS(52-14)
Central Arkansas - Defense not in Top 50 in FCS(45-35)
Stephen F Austin - #17 defense in FCS(21-20)
Lamar - Defense not in Top 50 in FCS(41-7)
Jacksonville State - Defense not in Top 50 in FCS(42-7)
Tarleton State - Defense not in Top 50 in FCS(45-27)
Dixie State - Defense not in Top 50 in FCS(59-10)
Eastern Kentucky - Defense not in Top 50 in FCS(42-28)
Abilene Christian - Defense not in Top 50 in FCS(35-9)
Incarnate Word - Defense not in Top 50 in FCS(49-42)

One game this year against a Top 50 defense and they score a season low 21 and only win by a point.

SFA defense is ranked 17 and gives up 311.4 yards per game. Our Cats D is ranked 11 and gives up 280.6 per game.
Their QB was out against SFA.

They HAVE been battle tested. This team won the fake national championship last spring, beating NDSU, JMU, and SDSU. Normally, I'd put less stock in last year, but because of the covid eligibility rule, basically 100% of the team returned.

So not only is this the most tested team in the field, its also been able to rest guys for significant stretches of the season while beating up on teams like Tarleton St.

I'm pretty confident in our D. Troy & Co should hold them to under 24. I'm not confident at all in the O. Even though the O looked a lot better yesterday with Tommy at the helm, Sammy will be every bit as tough against the run as UM. Certainly tougher than any other non-UM team. They look like they might be a little susceptible to the pass...so if Tommy can pass like UIWs stud NFL prospect, then the Cats should be able to move the ball & put up points If Sammy can stack the box and sell out to stop the run like UM, its going to be a fast, disappointing trip to TX.
Tommy doesn’t need to pass like UIW’s QB. He needs to complete just enough throws to keep the D honest. Our running game is not going to be near as pedestrian as it was against the griz because we now have a QB that will keep the ball and isn’t scared of contact so we can run an actual read option.


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Re: Sam Houston

Post by onceacat » Sun Dec 05, 2021 3:37 pm

utucats wrote:
Sun Dec 05, 2021 2:17 pm
onceacat wrote:
Sun Dec 05, 2021 11:07 am
utucats wrote:
Sun Dec 05, 2021 1:46 am
It’s been talked about a lot, but SHSU has had a cake of a schedule. I expect our defense is going to continue their domination even against the defending champs.

Looking at the total defense numbers here is what SHSU has faced this year:

NAU - Defense not in the Top 50 in FCS(42-16)
SEMO - Defense not in the Top 50 in FCS(52-14)
Central Arkansas - Defense not in Top 50 in FCS(45-35)
Stephen F Austin - #17 defense in FCS(21-20)
Lamar - Defense not in Top 50 in FCS(41-7)
Jacksonville State - Defense not in Top 50 in FCS(42-7)
Tarleton State - Defense not in Top 50 in FCS(45-27)
Dixie State - Defense not in Top 50 in FCS(59-10)
Eastern Kentucky - Defense not in Top 50 in FCS(42-28)
Abilene Christian - Defense not in Top 50 in FCS(35-9)
Incarnate Word - Defense not in Top 50 in FCS(49-42)

One game this year against a Top 50 defense and they score a season low 21 and only win by a point.

SFA defense is ranked 17 and gives up 311.4 yards per game. Our Cats D is ranked 11 and gives up 280.6 per game.
Their QB was out against SFA.

They HAVE been battle tested. This team won the fake national championship last spring, beating NDSU, JMU, and SDSU. Normally, I'd put less stock in last year, but because of the covid eligibility rule, basically 100% of the team returned.

So not only is this the most tested team in the field, its also been able to rest guys for significant stretches of the season while beating up on teams like Tarleton St.

I'm pretty confident in our D. Troy & Co should hold them to under 24. I'm not confident at all in the O. Even though the O looked a lot better yesterday with Tommy at the helm, Sammy will be every bit as tough against the run as UM. Certainly tougher than any other non-UM team. They look like they might be a little susceptible to the pass...so if Tommy can pass like UIWs stud NFL prospect, then the Cats should be able to move the ball & put up points If Sammy can stack the box and sell out to stop the run like UM, its going to be a fast, disappointing trip to TX.
Tommy doesn’t need to pass like UIW’s QB. He needs to complete just enough throws to keep the D honest. Our running game is not going to be near as pedestrian as it was against the griz because we now have a QB that will keep the ball and isn’t scared of contact so we can run an actual read option.
Disagree. The Griz had zero problem shutting down the option with Tommy. Zero problem shutting down Ifanse.

If Tommy can hit 60% for a 7-8 yard average, then yeah, Cats have a chance. But 40% for 3 yards per attempt isn't going to cut it (yeah, yeah...the wind blah blah blah). On the season prior to yesterday, he was still only 50% with a 3 yard per attempt average.

I have no idea how TMs passing game is going to develop. Obviously, 3 weeks to take all the snaps should help. But "keeping them honest" means that he needs to improve in a hurry.



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Re: Sam Houston

Post by utucats » Sun Dec 05, 2021 3:56 pm

onceacat wrote:
Sun Dec 05, 2021 3:37 pm
utucats wrote:
Sun Dec 05, 2021 2:17 pm
onceacat wrote:
Sun Dec 05, 2021 11:07 am
utucats wrote:
Sun Dec 05, 2021 1:46 am
It’s been talked about a lot, but SHSU has had a cake of a schedule. I expect our defense is going to continue their domination even against the defending champs.

Looking at the total defense numbers here is what SHSU has faced this year:

NAU - Defense not in the Top 50 in FCS(42-16)
SEMO - Defense not in the Top 50 in FCS(52-14)
Central Arkansas - Defense not in Top 50 in FCS(45-35)
Stephen F Austin - #17 defense in FCS(21-20)
Lamar - Defense not in Top 50 in FCS(41-7)
Jacksonville State - Defense not in Top 50 in FCS(42-7)
Tarleton State - Defense not in Top 50 in FCS(45-27)
Dixie State - Defense not in Top 50 in FCS(59-10)
Eastern Kentucky - Defense not in Top 50 in FCS(42-28)
Abilene Christian - Defense not in Top 50 in FCS(35-9)
Incarnate Word - Defense not in Top 50 in FCS(49-42)

One game this year against a Top 50 defense and they score a season low 21 and only win by a point.

SFA defense is ranked 17 and gives up 311.4 yards per game. Our Cats D is ranked 11 and gives up 280.6 per game.
Their QB was out against SFA.

They HAVE been battle tested. This team won the fake national championship last spring, beating NDSU, JMU, and SDSU. Normally, I'd put less stock in last year, but because of the covid eligibility rule, basically 100% of the team returned.

So not only is this the most tested team in the field, its also been able to rest guys for significant stretches of the season while beating up on teams like Tarleton St.

I'm pretty confident in our D. Troy & Co should hold them to under 24. I'm not confident at all in the O. Even though the O looked a lot better yesterday with Tommy at the helm, Sammy will be every bit as tough against the run as UM. Certainly tougher than any other non-UM team. They look like they might be a little susceptible to the pass...so if Tommy can pass like UIWs stud NFL prospect, then the Cats should be able to move the ball & put up points If Sammy can stack the box and sell out to stop the run like UM, its going to be a fast, disappointing trip to TX.
Tommy doesn’t need to pass like UIW’s QB. He needs to complete just enough throws to keep the D honest. Our running game is not going to be near as pedestrian as it was against the griz because we now have a QB that will keep the ball and isn’t scared of contact so we can run an actual read option.
Disagree. The Griz had zero problem shutting down the option with Tommy. Zero problem shutting down Ifanse.

If Tommy can hit 60% for a 7-8 yard average, then yeah, Cats have a chance. But 40% for 3 yards per attempt isn't going to cut it (yeah, yeah...the wind blah blah blah). On the season prior to yesterday, he was still only 50% with a 3 yard per attempt average.

I have no idea how TMs passing game is going to develop. Obviously, 3 weeks to take all the snaps should help. But "keeping them honest" means that he needs to improve in a hurry.
When Tommy was on the field everyone knew what we were going to do. Now that he is getting all the snaps it’s a different dynamic.


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Re: Sam Houston

Post by BelligerentBobcat » Sun Dec 05, 2021 4:01 pm

onceacat wrote:
Sun Dec 05, 2021 3:37 pm
utucats wrote:
Sun Dec 05, 2021 2:17 pm
onceacat wrote:
Sun Dec 05, 2021 11:07 am
utucats wrote:
Sun Dec 05, 2021 1:46 am
It’s been talked about a lot, but SHSU has had a cake of a schedule. I expect our defense is going to continue their domination even against the defending champs.

Looking at the total defense numbers here is what SHSU has faced this year:

NAU - Defense not in the Top 50 in FCS(42-16)
SEMO - Defense not in the Top 50 in FCS(52-14)
Central Arkansas - Defense not in Top 50 in FCS(45-35)
Stephen F Austin - #17 defense in FCS(21-20)
Lamar - Defense not in Top 50 in FCS(41-7)
Jacksonville State - Defense not in Top 50 in FCS(42-7)
Tarleton State - Defense not in Top 50 in FCS(45-27)
Dixie State - Defense not in Top 50 in FCS(59-10)
Eastern Kentucky - Defense not in Top 50 in FCS(42-28)
Abilene Christian - Defense not in Top 50 in FCS(35-9)
Incarnate Word - Defense not in Top 50 in FCS(49-42)

One game this year against a Top 50 defense and they score a season low 21 and only win by a point.

SFA defense is ranked 17 and gives up 311.4 yards per game. Our Cats D is ranked 11 and gives up 280.6 per game.
Their QB was out against SFA.

They HAVE been battle tested. This team won the fake national championship last spring, beating NDSU, JMU, and SDSU. Normally, I'd put less stock in last year, but because of the covid eligibility rule, basically 100% of the team returned.

So not only is this the most tested team in the field, its also been able to rest guys for significant stretches of the season while beating up on teams like Tarleton St.

I'm pretty confident in our D. Troy & Co should hold them to under 24. I'm not confident at all in the O. Even though the O looked a lot better yesterday with Tommy at the helm, Sammy will be every bit as tough against the run as UM. Certainly tougher than any other non-UM team. They look like they might be a little susceptible to the pass...so if Tommy can pass like UIWs stud NFL prospect, then the Cats should be able to move the ball & put up points If Sammy can stack the box and sell out to stop the run like UM, its going to be a fast, disappointing trip to TX.
Tommy doesn’t need to pass like UIW’s QB. He needs to complete just enough throws to keep the D honest. Our running game is not going to be near as pedestrian as it was against the griz because we now have a QB that will keep the ball and isn’t scared of contact so we can run an actual read option.
Disagree. The Griz had zero problem shutting down the option with Tommy. Zero problem shutting down Ifanse.

If Tommy can hit 60% for a 7-8 yard average, then yeah, Cats have a chance. But 40% for 3 yards per attempt isn't going to cut it (yeah, yeah...the wind blah blah blah). On the season prior to yesterday, he was still only 50% with a 3 yard per attempt average.

I have no idea how TMs passing game is going to develop. Obviously, 3 weeks to take all the snaps should help. But "keeping them honest" means that he needs to improve in a hurry.
Anybody who is going to seriously take a 2-3 pass sample size and extrapolate that should never use statistics again.

You got it right in the last paragraph though. We don’t know enough to say one way or the other.



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