2021 Sagarin Rankings

[allcat]

After week 4, Cats are 121st overall and 13th in the FCS.

Wyoming- 67th overall
Drake- 244 overall, 114th FCS
San Diego- 243 overall, 113th FCS

Big Sky (opponents in bold):
Montana- 77 overall, 3rd FCS
UC Davis- 106 overall, 8th FCS
EWU- 114 overall, 9th FCS
Weber- 117 overall, 11th FCS
Montana State- 121 overall, 13th FCS
Sac St- 150 overall, 29th FCS
NAU- 180 overall, 53rd FCS
Idaho- 182 overall, 54th FCS
Portland St- 186 overall, 58th FCS
Southern Utah- 197 overall, 68th FCS
Idaho St-198 overall, 69th FCS
Northern CO- 199 overall, 70th FCS
Cal Poly- 218 overall, 88th FCS

http://sagarin.com/sports/cfsend.htm

Man,what does it take to jump Weber!?

There's the game. You need to be in the stands. The only bsc team we don't play is Davis. All we have to do is win those three games on the road. Easy peasy.

[Catsrgrood]

After week 4, Cats are 121st overall and 13th in the FCS.

Wyoming- 67th overall
Drake- 244 overall, 114th FCS
San Diego- 243 overall, 113th FCS

Big Sky (opponents in bold):
Montana- 77 overall, 3rd FCS
UC Davis- 106 overall, 8th FCS
EWU- 114 overall, 9th FCS
Weber- 117 overall, 11th FCS
Montana State- 121 overall, 13th FCS
Sac St- 150 overall, 29th FCS
NAU- 180 overall, 53rd FCS
Idaho- 182 overall, 54th FCS
Portland St- 186 overall, 58th FCS
Southern Utah- 197 overall, 68th FCS
Idaho St-198 overall, 69th FCS
Northern CO- 199 overall, 70th FCS
Cal Poly- 218 overall, 88th FCS

http://sagarin.com/sports/cfsend.htm

Man,what does it take to jump Weber!?

I don’t see it happening in the next two weeks either with games against UNC and Cal Poly.

I said this recently in another thread, but I wouldn’t be surprised at all of the Cats are 5-1 going into the Weber game and ranked no higher than 9 or 10, both in the Stats poll and on these Sagarin rankings.

[TomCat88]

"Polls are scientifically and specifically designed to make fans happy that they don't need to rely on polls." - Unknown

[kennethnoisewater]

After week 4, Cats are 121st overall and 13th in the FCS.

Wyoming- 67th overall
Drake- 244 overall, 114th FCS
San Diego- 243 overall, 113th FCS

Big Sky (opponents in bold):
Montana- 77 overall, 3rd FCS
UC Davis- 106 overall, 8th FCS
EWU- 114 overall, 9th FCS
Weber- 117 overall, 11th FCS
Montana State- 121 overall, 13th FCS
Sac St- 150 overall, 29th FCS
NAU- 180 overall, 53rd FCS
Idaho- 182 overall, 54th FCS
Portland St- 186 overall, 58th FCS
Southern Utah- 197 overall, 68th FCS
Idaho St-198 overall, 69th FCS
Northern CO- 199 overall, 70th FCS
Cal Poly- 218 overall, 88th FCS

http://sagarin.com/sports/cfsend.htm

Man,what does it take to jump Weber!?

I don’t see it happening in the next two weeks either with games against UNC and Cal Poly.

I said this recently in another thread, but I wouldn’t be surprised at all of the Cats are 5-1 going into the Weber game and ranked no higher than 9 or 10, both in the Stats poll and on these Sagarin rankings.

You're probably right, and that's OK. Zero downside to that halfway through the season. MSU will have 3 chances to prove where they belong, whether it's higher or lower. IF the Cats can win two of those tough road games (Weber/EWU/UM), they'll get the recognition they deserve...assuming they don't lose to somebody else. If the Bobcats were ranked in the top 5, it just gives opponents a little more motivation. Being outside the top 10 probably gives MSU players a little chip on their shoulder. I know Choate would've loved motivating his team with this ranking.

[Catsrgrood]

After week 4, Cats are 121st overall and 13th in the FCS.

Wyoming- 67th overall
Drake- 244 overall, 114th FCS
San Diego- 243 overall, 113th FCS

Big Sky (opponents in bold):
Montana- 77 overall, 3rd FCS
UC Davis- 106 overall, 8th FCS
EWU- 114 overall, 9th FCS
Weber- 117 overall, 11th FCS
Montana State- 121 overall, 13th FCS
Sac St- 150 overall, 29th FCS
NAU- 180 overall, 53rd FCS
Idaho- 182 overall, 54th FCS
Portland St- 186 overall, 58th FCS
Southern Utah- 197 overall, 68th FCS
Idaho St-198 overall, 69th FCS
Northern CO- 199 overall, 70th FCS
Cal Poly- 218 overall, 88th FCS

http://sagarin.com/sports/cfsend.htm

Man,what does it take to jump Weber!?

I don’t see it happening in the next two weeks either with games against UNC and Cal Poly.

I said this recently in another thread, but I wouldn’t be surprised at all of the Cats are 5-1 going into the Weber game and ranked no higher than 9 or 10, both in the Stats poll and on these Sagarin rankings.

You're probably right, and that's OK. Zero downside to that halfway through the season. MSU will have 3 chances to prove where they belong, whether it's higher or lower. IF the Cats can win two of those tough road games (Weber/EWU/UM), they'll get the recognition they deserve...assuming they don't lose to somebody else. If the Bobcats were ranked in the top 5, it just gives opponents a little more motivation. Being outside the top 10 probably gives MSU players a little chip on their shoulder. I know Choate would've loved motivating his team with this ranking.

Agreed, it’s not a bad thing at all, That’s just how I see it playing out.

[catatac]

After week 4, Cats are 121st overall and 13th in the FCS.

Wyoming- 67th overall
Drake- 244 overall, 114th FCS
San Diego- 243 overall, 113th FCS

Big Sky (opponents in bold):
Montana- 77 overall, 3rd FCS
UC Davis- 106 overall, 8th FCS
EWU- 114 overall, 9th FCS
Weber- 117 overall, 11th FCS
Montana State- 121 overall, 13th FCS
Sac St- 150 overall, 29th FCS
NAU- 180 overall, 53rd FCS
Idaho- 182 overall, 54th FCS
Portland St- 186 overall, 58th FCS
Southern Utah- 197 overall, 68th FCS
Idaho St-198 overall, 69th FCS
Northern CO- 199 overall, 70th FCS
Cal Poly- 218 overall, 88th FCS

http://sagarin.com/sports/cfsend.htm

Man,what does it take to jump Weber!?

I don’t see it happening in the next two weeks either with games against UNC and Cal Poly.

I said this recently in another thread, but I wouldn’t be surprised at all of the Cats are 5-1 going into the Weber game and ranked no higher than 9 or 10, both in the Stats poll and on these Sagarin rankings.

I don't think so, simply because of the teams above us playing very tough games, specifically against each other in some cases. For example, UND v NDSU, EWU v UM, SHSU v SFA... and there are several other tough match ups over the next couple games. I think if we win the next two we end up around 8 or 9 in the STATS poll.

[Catsrgrood]

After week 4, Cats are 121st overall and 13th in the FCS.

Wyoming- 67th overall
Drake- 244 overall, 114th FCS
San Diego- 243 overall, 113th FCS

Big Sky (opponents in bold):
Montana- 77 overall, 3rd FCS
UC Davis- 106 overall, 8th FCS
EWU- 114 overall, 9th FCS
Weber- 117 overall, 11th FCS
Montana State- 121 overall, 13th FCS
Sac St- 150 overall, 29th FCS
NAU- 180 overall, 53rd FCS
Idaho- 182 overall, 54th FCS
Portland St- 186 overall, 58th FCS
Southern Utah- 197 overall, 68th FCS
Idaho St-198 overall, 69th FCS
Northern CO- 199 overall, 70th FCS
Cal Poly- 218 overall, 88th FCS

http://sagarin.com/sports/cfsend.htm

Man,what does it take to jump Weber!?

I don’t see it happening in the next two weeks either with games against UNC and Cal Poly.

I said this recently in another thread, but I wouldn’t be surprised at all of the Cats are 5-1 going into the Weber game and ranked no higher than 9 or 10, both in the Stats poll and on these Sagarin rankings.

I don't think so, simply because of the teams above us playing very tough games, specifically against each other in some cases. For example, UND v NDSU, EWU v UM, SHSU v SFA... and there are several other tough match ups over the next couple games. I think if we win the next two we end up around 8 or 9 in the STATS poll.

Yea it’s possible, but I mean that’s kind of splitting hairs. I say 9-10 and you say 8-9. Same difference.

Bottom line is I don’t see a big movement coming in the next two weeks. Weber will be a big statement game for the Cats to prove if they’re legit if they are indeed 5-1 going into that game.

[catatac]

After week 4, Cats are 121st overall and 13th in the FCS.

Wyoming- 67th overall
Drake- 244 overall, 114th FCS
San Diego- 243 overall, 113th FCS

Big Sky (opponents in bold):
Montana- 77 overall, 3rd FCS
UC Davis- 106 overall, 8th FCS
EWU- 114 overall, 9th FCS
Weber- 117 overall, 11th FCS
Montana State- 121 overall, 13th FCS
Sac St- 150 overall, 29th FCS
NAU- 180 overall, 53rd FCS
Idaho- 182 overall, 54th FCS
Portland St- 186 overall, 58th FCS
Southern Utah- 197 overall, 68th FCS
Idaho St-198 overall, 69th FCS
Northern CO- 199 overall, 70th FCS
Cal Poly- 218 overall, 88th FCS

http://sagarin.com/sports/cfsend.htm

Man,what does it take to jump Weber!?

I don’t see it happening in the next two weeks either with games against UNC and Cal Poly.

I said this recently in another thread, but I wouldn’t be surprised at all of the Cats are 5-1 going into the Weber game and ranked no higher than 9 or 10, both in the Stats poll and on these Sagarin rankings.

I don't think so, simply because of the teams above us playing very tough games, specifically against each other in some cases. For example, UND v NDSU, EWU v UM, SHSU v SFA... and there are several other tough match ups over the next couple games. I think if we win the next two we end up around 8 or 9 in the STATS poll.

Yea it’s possible, but I mean that’s kind of splitting hairs. I say 9-10 and you say 8-9. Same difference.

Bottom line is I don’t see a big movement coming in the next two weeks. Weber will be a big statement game for the Cats to prove if they’re legit if they are indeed 5-1 going into that game.

Ya, got ya. I should have re read what you posted before I did. In my mind I was thinking people were saying we wouldn't move from where we're at now, which I think it 11th. Sounds like we agree if we win the next two that should put us in the top ten.

[Catsrgrood]

After week 5, Cats are 114th overall and 11th in the FCS.

Wyoming- 62nd overall
Drake- 244 overall, 114th FCS
San Diego- 241 overall, 111th FCS

Big Sky (opponents in bold):
Montana- 87 overall, 4th FCS
EWU- 99 overall, 7th FCS
UC Davis- 113 overall, 10th FCS
Montana State- 114 overall, 11th FCS
Weber- 124 overall, 14th FCS
Sac St- 153 overall, 31st FCS
NAU- 172 overall, 46th FCS
Portland St- 173 overall, 47th FCS
Idaho- 181 overall, 55th FCS
Southern Utah- 195 overall, 66th FCS
Northern CO- 201 overall, 71st FCS
Idaho St-206 overall, 76th FCS
Cal Poly- 222 overall, 92nd FCS

http://sagarin.com/sports/cfsend.htm

[91catAlum]

An unbeaten EWU team with an FBS win and a head to head win over the griz, is still ranked behind the griz??
Might be time for Sagarin to make some adjustments.

[onceacat]

An unbeaten EWU team with an FBS win and a head to head win over the griz, is still ranked behind the griz??
Might be time for Sagarin to make some adjustments.

The Griz win over UW is a lot better than the win at UNLV. Griz crushed WIU, EWU barely squeaked by on the scoreboard. And the game in Cheney was 50-50. If UMs TE has better hands on the last play, Griz come out with a win.

[91catAlum]

An unbeaten EWU team with an FBS win and a head to head win over the griz, is still ranked behind the griz??
Might be time for Sagarin to make some adjustments.

The Griz win over UW is a lot better than the win at UNLV. Griz crushed WIU, EWU barely squeaked by on the scoreboard. And the game in Cheney was 50-50. If UMs TE has better hands on the last play, Griz come out with a win.

And if EWUs receivers had better hands, they go up 14-0 in the first 7 minutes of the game.

I'm just saying head to head should Trump everything else. Just my opinion.

[TomCat88]

I’m surprised people still refer to Sagarin. I just thought everyone would’ve learned by now that it isn’t good at rating teams.

[onceacat]

An unbeaten EWU team with an FBS win and a head to head win over the griz, is still ranked behind the griz??
Might be time for Sagarin to make some adjustments.

The Griz win over UW is a lot better than the win at UNLV. Griz crushed WIU, EWU barely squeaked by on the scoreboard. And the game in Cheney was 50-50. If UMs TE has better hands on the last play, Griz come out with a win.

And if EWUs receivers had better hands, they go up 14-0 in the first 7 minutes of the game.

I'm just saying head to head should Trump everything else. Just my opinion.

Fair enough. But they are basically tied in the computer algorithm…and, I’d wager that if they played again, the Griz would probably win. I’d call those two very evenly matched teams…which is reflected in the tie in the computer rankings.

[onceacat]

I’m surprised people still refer to Sagarin. I just thought everyone would’ve learned by now that it isn’t good at rating teams.

Nobody is good at ranking teams. That’s why there are so many “upsets” in the polls.

[rivercat]

Sagarin ratings get better/more realistic later in the season with more games played. Over rated teams at the beginning of the season will skew up ratings of teams that beat them early in the season. I think it's plain to see a 2-3 Husky team us no where close to a top 20 team it was preseason. They are more likely a top 75 team. Still a good win for um, but not remarkable.

[Catsrgrood]

I’m surprised people still refer to Sagarin. I just thought everyone would’ve learned by now that it isn’t good at rating teams.

At the end of the 2019 season the Sagarin rankings were pretty dang close to how the season actually worked out.

No it’s not perfect, none are, but as the season goes on it gets more and more accurate and is as good as any out there.

[TomCat88]

I’m surprised people still refer to Sagarin. I just thought everyone would’ve learned by now that it isn’t good at rating teams.

At the end of the 2019 season the Sagarin rankings were pretty dang close to how the season actually worked out.

No it’s not perfect, none are, but as the season goes on it gets more and more accurate and is as good as any out there.

Well my season-ending rankings are good at the end of the season, too. I find it fascinatingly pointless, which is kinda the point.

[onceacat]

Sagarin ratings get better/more realistic later in the season with more games played. Over rated teams at the beginning of the season will skew up ratings of teams that beat them early in the season. I think it's plain to see a 2-3 Husky team us no where close to a top 20 team it was preseason. They are more likely a top 75 team. Still a good win for um, but not remarkable.

Truth. And the Huskies are pretty clearly a better overall team than the Griz, even though the Griz won head to head.

[91catAlum]

I’m surprised people still refer to Sagarin. I just thought everyone would’ve learned by now that it isn’t good at rating teams.

At the end of the 2019 season the Sagarin rankings were pretty dang close to how the season actually worked out.

No it’s not perfect, none are, but as the season goes on it gets more and more accurate and is as good as any out there.

Well my season-ending rankings are good at the end of the season, too.