A *good* QB problem
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McKay played pretty well. He showed the ability to stay within himself. He didn’t force throws and was patient running the ball on designed pass plays.
MSU has grown used to seeing QBs take off out of the pocket and keep the ball a lot on RPO. Prukop, Murray, Andersen all ran it a ton. McKay is more like McGhee in that he’s a passer first.
Wyoming has a very good defense. They ranked third in ypg (328) and ypp (4.9) in the MWC. MSU averaged 5.5 ypp on 59 plays.
McKay had a passer rating of 146.2. Wyoming had defensive passer rating of 131.2 in 2020.
MSU has grown used to seeing QBs take off out of the pocket and keep the ball a lot on RPO. Prukop, Murray, Andersen all ran it a ton. McKay is more like McGhee in that he’s a passer first.
Wyoming has a very good defense. They ranked third in ypg (328) and ypp (4.9) in the MWC. MSU averaged 5.5 ypp on 59 plays.
McKay had a passer rating of 146.2. Wyoming had defensive passer rating of 131.2 in 2020.
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Re: A *good* QB problem
I’m excited to watch him progress! I’m on vacation and I couldn’t catch the game yesterday, so I’ll look forward to watching him line up (on TV) next week.TomCat88 wrote: ↑Sun Sep 05, 2021 9:47 amMcKay played pretty well. He showed the ability to stay within himself. He didn’t force throws and was patient running the ball on designed pass plays.
MSU has grown used to seeing QBs take off out of the pocket and keep the ball a lot on RPO. Prukop, Murray, Andersen all ran it a ton. McKay is more like McGhee in that he’s a passer first.
Wyoming has a very good defense. They ranked third in ypg (328) and ypp (4.9) in the MWC. MSU averaged 5.5 ypp on 59 plays.
McKay had a passer rating of 146.2. Wyoming had defensive passer rating of 131.2 in 2020.
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Re: A *good* QB problem
And they updated his passer rating to 151.2. One pass was a spike, which doesn't count against the QB.CatsNoMatterWhat wrote: ↑Sun Sep 05, 2021 1:26 pmI’m excited to watch him progress! I’m on vacation and I couldn’t catch the game yesterday, so I’ll look forward to watching him line up (on TV) next week.TomCat88 wrote: ↑Sun Sep 05, 2021 9:47 amMcKay played pretty well. He showed the ability to stay within himself. He didn’t force throws and was patient running the ball on designed pass plays.
MSU has grown used to seeing QBs take off out of the pocket and keep the ball a lot on RPO. Prukop, Murray, Andersen all ran it a ton. McKay is more like McGhee in that he’s a passer first.
Wyoming has a very good defense. They ranked third in ypg (328) and ypp (4.9) in the MWC. MSU averaged 5.5 ypp on 59 plays.
McKay had a passer rating of 146.2. Wyoming had defensive passer rating of 131.2 in 2020.
He got a huge reception by McCutcheon, which really helps those numbers, but most QBs get those from time to time. The announcers were very impressed with his velocity on passes across the field. Yes, it will be fun to watch him progress. I think Vigen has a lot to work with there.
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Interesting thought.CatsNoMatterWhat wrote: ↑Sat Aug 21, 2021 2:22 pmI feel like Rovig would be QB1 at the majority of Big Sky schools entering this season. He’s QB2 here after leading us to the final 4 last season. Means Macay must be darned good. Am I way off base here?
My point is it’s nice to have a *good* QB problem again.
I was intrigued enough to go look at the QB situations around the BSC.
What I found was that a ton of teams have first time starters. Southern Utah, UC Davis, Northern Arizona, Northern Colorado, Idaho, Cal Poly, and Montana all have new starters, so it's just impossible to say if Rovig would start over who they have.
Eastern Washington (Eric Barriere), Sac State (Asher O'Hara), and Portland State (Davis Alexander) are all a "no" for me.
The only team where I'm pretty confident Rovig would start is Idaho State (Tyler Vander Waal).
If I go back and look at the starters in 2019, Northern Colorado and Idaho State are the only teams where I think Rovig would have started.
I think Rovig as a backup at this level is about right.
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KnowledgeCat wrote: ↑Wed Aug 25, 2021 7:44 pmMcKay is soft. Watch. There’s a reason he’s no longer at NC St. Great great human.
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I was there too and I thought he did well. In reference to poor throws, maybe I saw it a little differently, but there were 2 or 3 throws that I wasn’t sure the receiver and QB were on the same page. One throw McCutcheon did an out and it was obvious McKay thought he was continuing down field. Another specific incident, I saw Vigen pull the receiver over on the sideline and pointed to where he should have been…it was a spot throw for McKay and the receiver was not where he should have been (some of these are timing throws to a spot and the QB releases the ball before the receiver even turns).Montanabob wrote: ↑Sun Sep 05, 2021 7:11 amWatching the game in person I wasn't sold on McKay. I will hold back my final answer until I see the replay... Some poor throws and decisions, and some receiver drops.CatsNoMatterWhat wrote: ↑Sat Sep 04, 2021 11:16 pmSeems like Macay is the real deal. Have we found our first baller QB since Prukop?
Those are just cases of QB and receiver being in sync and firmly knowing offense. Remember this is the first game after 600 plus days against live competition and a new cast of characters……I’ll stay optimistic for now….as our offense continues to grow and the team understands each other’s tendencies and capabilities.
And somebody else mentioned it, but there were two throws I saw that were 50/50 balls where we didn’t have separation…and our guys needed to fight through it….I bet Jaden Smith catches that ball at the goal line more than he drops it and he will in the future.
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I was plenty happy with McKays throwing. He was better than I thought he would be. Those timing throws will come.
I'm just waiting to see the running threat everyone says he brings. He's definitely mobile but I just haven't seen him be a real threat on the ground yet.
I'm just waiting to see the running threat everyone says he brings. He's definitely mobile but I just haven't seen him be a real threat on the ground yet.
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“And somebody else mentioned it, but there were two throws I saw that were 50/50 balls where we didn’t have separation…and our guys needed to fight through it….I bet Jaden Smith catches that ball at the goal line more than he drops it and he will in the future.”
This: spectacular catch to begin with. In fighting for the ball. When he watches film he will realize He should’ve kept it over his head and fell back into the end zone rather than tried to pull the ball in in front and he would’ve maintained possession more than likely. Almost spectacular. He will learn!
This: spectacular catch to begin with. In fighting for the ball. When he watches film he will realize He should’ve kept it over his head and fell back into the end zone rather than tried to pull the ball in in front and he would’ve maintained possession more than likely. Almost spectacular. He will learn!
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When referencing his running ability, I didn't just mean rushing yards. Those will come depending on the opponent but McKay does a good job of "running to throw". This is something Denarius was phenomenal at. Denarius could've been a major running threat but he looked to throw first.technoCat wrote: ↑Mon Sep 06, 2021 12:19 pmI was plenty happy with McKays throwing. He was better than I thought he would be. Those timing throws will come.
I'm just waiting to see the running threat everyone says he brings. He's definitely mobile but I just haven't seen him be a real threat on the ground yet.
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He would not run enough even with an open field.VimSince03 wrote: ↑Mon Sep 06, 2021 1:10 pmWhen referencing his running ability, I didn't just mean rushing yards. Those will come depending on the opponent but McKay does a good job of "running to throw". This is something Denarius was phenomenal at. Denarius could've been a major running threat but he looked to throw first.technoCat wrote: ↑Mon Sep 06, 2021 12:19 pmI was plenty happy with McKays throwing. He was better than I thought he would be. Those timing throws will come.
I'm just waiting to see the running threat everyone says he brings. He's definitely mobile but I just haven't seen him be a real threat on the ground yet.
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Thought I saw a couple plays where he handed off when it looked to me that the better option would have been to keep the ball and run. But, maybe we don't know what he's being told to do.technoCat wrote: ↑Mon Sep 06, 2021 12:19 pmI was plenty happy with McKays throwing. He was better than I thought he would be. Those timing throws will come.
I'm just waiting to see the running threat everyone says he brings. He's definitely mobile but I just haven't seen him be a real threat on the ground yet.
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Not every run that looks like it’s a run option is. But it did appear he had the edge on some plays. I imagine they’ll go over that in the film room. We never got to see any All-22, so hard to know what the QB saw, and those gaps can close real quick.catscat wrote: ↑Mon Sep 06, 2021 5:11 pmThought I saw a couple plays where he handed off when it looked to me that the better option would have been to keep the ball and run. But, maybe we don't know what he's being told to do.technoCat wrote: ↑Mon Sep 06, 2021 12:19 pmI was plenty happy with McKays throwing. He was better than I thought he would be. Those timing throws will come.
I'm just waiting to see the running threat everyone says he brings. He's definitely mobile but I just haven't seen him be a real threat on the ground yet.
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After a 2 game sample size, I can confidently say McKay is not soft - stood in the pocket and threw a few balls knowing he’d get hit, also fought for yardage when running, probably actually needs to learn to slide a bit more.KnowledgeCat wrote: ↑Wed Aug 25, 2021 7:44 pmMcKay is soft. Watch. There’s a reason he’s no longer at NC St. Great great human.
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Over 70% completion rate.
4 TDs in two game vs O INTs
Doing a pretty solid job!
4 TDs in two game vs O INTs
Doing a pretty solid job!
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Five TDs. Leads BSC in passer rating b94VegasCat wrote: ↑Sun Sep 12, 2021 4:09 pmOver 70% completion rate.
4 TDs in two game vs O INTs
Doing a pretty solid job!
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Four. The last TD against Drake Rovig was QBTomCat88 wrote: ↑Sun Sep 12, 2021 4:15 pmFive TDs. Leads BSC in passer rating b94VegasCat wrote: ↑Sun Sep 12, 2021 4:09 pmOver 70% completion rate.
4 TDs in two game vs O INTs
Doing a pretty solid job!
Edit. Five.
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Rich K wrote: ↑Sun Sep 12, 2021 4:35 pmFour. The last TD against Drake Rovig was QBTomCat88 wrote: ↑Sun Sep 12, 2021 4:15 pmFive TDs. Leads BSC in passer rating b94VegasCat wrote: ↑Sun Sep 12, 2021 4:09 pmOver 70% completion rate.
4 TDs in two game vs O INTs
Doing a pretty solid job!
Edit. Five.
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Wow. 201.6 rating against DrakeTomCat88 wrote: ↑Sun Sep 12, 2021 4:42 pmRich K wrote: ↑Sun Sep 12, 2021 4:35 pmFour. The last TD against Drake Rovig was QBTomCat88 wrote: ↑Sun Sep 12, 2021 4:15 pmFive TDs. Leads BSC in passer rating b94VegasCat wrote: ↑Sun Sep 12, 2021 4:09 pmOver 70% completion rate.
4 TDs in two game vs O INTs
Doing a pretty solid job!
Edit. Five.
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Ahead of Barriere and you could say McKay has played tougher competition. Wyoming > Unlv. Drake > Cent. Washington.Rich K wrote: ↑Sun Sep 12, 2021 4:44 pmWow. 201.6 rating against DrakeTomCat88 wrote: ↑Sun Sep 12, 2021 4:42 pmRich K wrote: ↑Sun Sep 12, 2021 4:35 pmFour. The last TD against Drake Rovig was QBTomCat88 wrote: ↑Sun Sep 12, 2021 4:15 pmFive TDs. Leads BSC in passer rating b94VegasCat wrote: ↑Sun Sep 12, 2021 4:09 pmOver 70% completion rate.
4 TDs in two game vs O INTs
Doing a pretty solid job!
Edit. Five.
https://www.espn.com/college-football/p ... thew-mckay
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#8 in the country in passer rating.TomCat88 wrote: ↑Sun Sep 12, 2021 4:15 pmFive TDs. Leads BSC in passer rating b94VegasCat wrote: ↑Sun Sep 12, 2021 4:09 pmOver 70% completion rate.
4 TDs in two game vs O INTs
Doing a pretty solid job!