Yes, if you have been vaccinated and for the one if there is a 95% rate how could you been infected... It that get vaccinated and also wear a mask that I really don't like. Would this situation be considered a conundrum?kwcat wrote: ↑Thu Feb 18, 2021 10:38 pmExperts,defined as drips under pressure , say masks are for others in case you’re sick. However same experts don’t know if vaccinated individuals can spread the virus.RickRund wrote: ↑Thu Feb 18, 2021 10:31 pmAnd my question would be if one has had the vaccination why should they wear a mask?BozoneCat wrote: ↑Thu Feb 18, 2021 10:21 pmI wouldn’t be surprised, for this fall, if masks were still required at games. Now, enforcing that in a full stadium would be even more difficult than trying to keep people from sneaking in alcohol, so...ilovethecats wrote: ↑Thu Feb 18, 2021 2:51 pmPraying you're right.BozoneCat wrote: ↑Thu Feb 18, 2021 2:32 pmPersonally, I'm pretty confident that we'll have full stadiums by this November. Really doesn't matter for Cat-griz though. 25,000 fans silenced by another loss to the Cats is just as quiet as 0 fans.catatac wrote: ↑Thu Feb 18, 2021 2:14 pmYep, specially if they don't allow fans which unfortunately may be a real possibility.BozoneCat wrote: ↑Wed Feb 17, 2021 10:53 pmTHIS, all day!94VegasCat wrote: ↑Wed Feb 17, 2021 10:16 pmOne way to look at it is that we get 7 home games. We’ve owned their asses in wagriz.
I booked rooms in Missoula last night. It's not that I don't think they SHOULD allow fans and max-capacity; it's that I'm not confident in those making these big decisions. I also think it's safe for schools to be open. And bars to be open later than 10, (And now midnight) And for people to wear masks if they want without a mandate by the health department.
There has been a lot that hasn't made sense all the time. Still forcing people to wear masks, "social distance", limited capacity in stadiums, and no tailgating after almost two years and a vaccine would be par for the course in my opinion.
And I would disagree with every one of those restrictions! What in the hell would we need a vaccine for if after it is available to all people we still have restrictions. Trying to wrap my head around that but I'll wait to get angry until we cross that bridge!
I sure hope we can have unlimited capacity by this fall. I think it depends on how vaccinations go this spring/summer. People choosing not to get them will have devastating consequences. We are a few weeks away from getting caught up on vaccine deliveries, so by May/June, all adults should have the opportunity to get vaccinated. Still waiting on research results to come out for younger children, as those studies just started in December, but my guess is they won’t find any significant risks with vaccinating kids, so hopefully by the start of school in the fall, kids should have the chance to get vaccinated too. Even right now, it looks like the consensus is that if teachers are vaccinated, schools should be safe to reopen fully, and if triple down on that if kids are vaccinated as well. All that happens, I can’t see a logical (yeah, I know) reason why we can’t be allowed to tailgate, pack the stadium, etc. They’ll still likely try to get people to wear masks, but obviously once the game gets going, that’s not going to happen. And even as a pretty hardcore pro-mask, pro-shutdown guy, I’m 100% in favor of that - assuming we have a high percentage of people getting their vaccine.
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As someone who is little C “conservative” (as opposed to right wing talk radio big c “Conservative”)) the chances are pretty good that we have full stadiums by Thanksgiving.
I wouldn’t put non refundable money on anything during this summer (music festivals, Sweet Pea, Gold Rush, etc) are all on the cusp of realistic. Depends 100% on the competency of a Biden administration getting adequate infrastucture to the state level, and a Gianforte administration actually getting 1.5 million shots in arms over the next 10 months.
We are relying on Biden/Gianforte to get it done. Buy tickets accordingly.
I wouldn’t put non refundable money on anything during this summer (music festivals, Sweet Pea, Gold Rush, etc) are all on the cusp of realistic. Depends 100% on the competency of a Biden administration getting adequate infrastucture to the state level, and a Gianforte administration actually getting 1.5 million shots in arms over the next 10 months.
We are relying on Biden/Gianforte to get it done. Buy tickets accordingly.
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Pretty much been my question for a year Rick.RickRund wrote: ↑Thu Feb 18, 2021 10:31 pmAnd my question would be if one has had the vaccination why should they wear a mask?BozoneCat wrote: ↑Thu Feb 18, 2021 10:21 pmI wouldn’t be surprised, for this fall, if masks were still required at games. Now, enforcing that in a full stadium would be even more difficult than trying to keep people from sneaking in alcohol, so...ilovethecats wrote: ↑Thu Feb 18, 2021 2:51 pmPraying you're right.BozoneCat wrote: ↑Thu Feb 18, 2021 2:32 pmPersonally, I'm pretty confident that we'll have full stadiums by this November. Really doesn't matter for Cat-griz though. 25,000 fans silenced by another loss to the Cats is just as quiet as 0 fans.catatac wrote: ↑Thu Feb 18, 2021 2:14 pmYep, specially if they don't allow fans which unfortunately may be a real possibility.BozoneCat wrote: ↑Wed Feb 17, 2021 10:53 pmTHIS, all day!94VegasCat wrote: ↑Wed Feb 17, 2021 10:16 pmOne way to look at it is that we get 7 home games. We’ve owned their asses in wagriz.
I booked rooms in Missoula last night. It's not that I don't think they SHOULD allow fans and max-capacity; it's that I'm not confident in those making these big decisions. I also think it's safe for schools to be open. And bars to be open later than 10, (And now midnight) And for people to wear masks if they want without a mandate by the health department.
There has been a lot that hasn't made sense all the time. Still forcing people to wear masks, "social distance", limited capacity in stadiums, and no tailgating after almost two years and a vaccine would be par for the course in my opinion.
And I would disagree with every one of those restrictions! What in the hell would we need a vaccine for if after it is available to all people we still have restrictions. Trying to wrap my head around that but I'll wait to get angry until we cross that bridge!
I sure hope we can have unlimited capacity by this fall. I think it depends on how vaccinations go this spring/summer. People choosing not to get them will have devastating consequences. We are a few weeks away from getting caught up on vaccine deliveries, so by May/June, all adults should have the opportunity to get vaccinated. Still waiting on research results to come out for younger children, as those studies just started in December, but my guess is they won’t find any significant risks with vaccinating kids, so hopefully by the start of school in the fall, kids should have the chance to get vaccinated too. Even right now, it looks like the consensus is that if teachers are vaccinated, schools should be safe to reopen fully, and if triple down on that if kids are vaccinated as well. All that happens, I can’t see a logical (yeah, I know) reason why we can’t be allowed to tailgate, pack the stadium, etc. They’ll still likely try to get people to wear masks, but obviously once the game gets going, that’s not going to happen. And even as a pretty hardcore pro-mask, pro-shutdown guy, I’m 100% in favor of that - assuming we have a high percentage of people getting their vaccine.
If we still need to wear masks in stadiums in November, seems to me we should “have” to wear masks forever. The risks are the same.
I’ll quiet down now. Wont derail the thread.
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I was told this by a healthcare professional...getting vaccinated DOES NOT prevent you from getting COVID. It gives your body a jumpstart on fighting it. Therefore conceivably, you could spread it if you have it. Take that for what it’s worth.RickRund wrote: ↑Thu Feb 18, 2021 10:31 pmAnd my question would be if one has had the vaccination why should they wear a mask?BozoneCat wrote: ↑Thu Feb 18, 2021 10:21 pmI wouldn’t be surprised, for this fall, if masks were still required at games. Now, enforcing that in a full stadium would be even more difficult than trying to keep people from sneaking in alcohol, so...ilovethecats wrote: ↑Thu Feb 18, 2021 2:51 pmPraying you're right.BozoneCat wrote: ↑Thu Feb 18, 2021 2:32 pmPersonally, I'm pretty confident that we'll have full stadiums by this November. Really doesn't matter for Cat-griz though. 25,000 fans silenced by another loss to the Cats is just as quiet as 0 fans.catatac wrote: ↑Thu Feb 18, 2021 2:14 pmYep, specially if they don't allow fans which unfortunately may be a real possibility.BozoneCat wrote: ↑Wed Feb 17, 2021 10:53 pmTHIS, all day!94VegasCat wrote: ↑Wed Feb 17, 2021 10:16 pmOne way to look at it is that we get 7 home games. We’ve owned their asses in wagriz.
I booked rooms in Missoula last night. It's not that I don't think they SHOULD allow fans and max-capacity; it's that I'm not confident in those making these big decisions. I also think it's safe for schools to be open. And bars to be open later than 10, (And now midnight) And for people to wear masks if they want without a mandate by the health department.
There has been a lot that hasn't made sense all the time. Still forcing people to wear masks, "social distance", limited capacity in stadiums, and no tailgating after almost two years and a vaccine would be par for the course in my opinion.
And I would disagree with every one of those restrictions! What in the hell would we need a vaccine for if after it is available to all people we still have restrictions. Trying to wrap my head around that but I'll wait to get angry until we cross that bridge!
I sure hope we can have unlimited capacity by this fall. I think it depends on how vaccinations go this spring/summer. People choosing not to get them will have devastating consequences. We are a few weeks away from getting caught up on vaccine deliveries, so by May/June, all adults should have the opportunity to get vaccinated. Still waiting on research results to come out for younger children, as those studies just started in December, but my guess is they won’t find any significant risks with vaccinating kids, so hopefully by the start of school in the fall, kids should have the chance to get vaccinated too. Even right now, it looks like the consensus is that if teachers are vaccinated, schools should be safe to reopen fully, and if triple down on that if kids are vaccinated as well. All that happens, I can’t see a logical (yeah, I know) reason why we can’t be allowed to tailgate, pack the stadium, etc. They’ll still likely try to get people to wear masks, but obviously once the game gets going, that’s not going to happen. And even as a pretty hardcore pro-mask, pro-shutdown guy, I’m 100% in favor of that - assuming we have a high percentage of people getting their vaccine.
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Thanks... Now I am done derailingLTown Cat wrote: ↑Fri Feb 19, 2021 7:29 amI was told this by a healthcare professional...getting vaccinated DOES NOT prevent you from getting COVID. It gives your body a jumpstart on fighting it. Therefore conceivably, you could spread it if you have it. Take that for what it’s worth.RickRund wrote: ↑Thu Feb 18, 2021 10:31 pmAnd my question would be if one has had the vaccination why should they wear a mask?BozoneCat wrote: ↑Thu Feb 18, 2021 10:21 pmI wouldn’t be surprised, for this fall, if masks were still required at games. Now, enforcing that in a full stadium would be even more difficult than trying to keep people from sneaking in alcohol, so...ilovethecats wrote: ↑Thu Feb 18, 2021 2:51 pmPraying you're right.BozoneCat wrote: ↑Thu Feb 18, 2021 2:32 pmPersonally, I'm pretty confident that we'll have full stadiums by this November. Really doesn't matter for Cat-griz though. 25,000 fans silenced by another loss to the Cats is just as quiet as 0 fans.catatac wrote: ↑Thu Feb 18, 2021 2:14 pmYep, specially if they don't allow fans which unfortunately may be a real possibility.BozoneCat wrote: ↑Wed Feb 17, 2021 10:53 pmTHIS, all day!94VegasCat wrote: ↑Wed Feb 17, 2021 10:16 pmOne way to look at it is that we get 7 home games. We’ve owned their asses in wagriz.
I booked rooms in Missoula last night. It's not that I don't think they SHOULD allow fans and max-capacity; it's that I'm not confident in those making these big decisions. I also think it's safe for schools to be open. And bars to be open later than 10, (And now midnight) And for people to wear masks if they want without a mandate by the health department.
There has been a lot that hasn't made sense all the time. Still forcing people to wear masks, "social distance", limited capacity in stadiums, and no tailgating after almost two years and a vaccine would be par for the course in my opinion.
And I would disagree with every one of those restrictions! What in the hell would we need a vaccine for if after it is available to all people we still have restrictions. Trying to wrap my head around that but I'll wait to get angry until we cross that bridge!
I sure hope we can have unlimited capacity by this fall. I think it depends on how vaccinations go this spring/summer. People choosing not to get them will have devastating consequences. We are a few weeks away from getting caught up on vaccine deliveries, so by May/June, all adults should have the opportunity to get vaccinated. Still waiting on research results to come out for younger children, as those studies just started in December, but my guess is they won’t find any significant risks with vaccinating kids, so hopefully by the start of school in the fall, kids should have the chance to get vaccinated too. Even right now, it looks like the consensus is that if teachers are vaccinated, schools should be safe to reopen fully, and if triple down on that if kids are vaccinated as well. All that happens, I can’t see a logical (yeah, I know) reason why we can’t be allowed to tailgate, pack the stadium, etc. They’ll still likely try to get people to wear masks, but obviously once the game gets going, that’s not going to happen. And even as a pretty hardcore pro-mask, pro-shutdown guy, I’m 100% in favor of that - assuming we have a high percentage of people getting their vaccine.
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As of right now (research is still being done on this), it is still thought that you can carry & pass on the virus if you are exposed, even if you have been vaccinated. So, until we achieve that magical herd immunity state, we should still wear masks to prevent further spread and to protect people that have yet to be vaccinated.RickRund wrote: ↑Thu Feb 18, 2021 10:31 pmAnd my question would be if one has had the vaccination why should they wear a mask?BozoneCat wrote: ↑Thu Feb 18, 2021 10:21 pmI wouldn’t be surprised, for this fall, if masks were still required at games. Now, enforcing that in a full stadium would be even more difficult than trying to keep people from sneaking in alcohol, so...ilovethecats wrote: ↑Thu Feb 18, 2021 2:51 pmPraying you're right.BozoneCat wrote: ↑Thu Feb 18, 2021 2:32 pmPersonally, I'm pretty confident that we'll have full stadiums by this November. Really doesn't matter for Cat-griz though. 25,000 fans silenced by another loss to the Cats is just as quiet as 0 fans.catatac wrote: ↑Thu Feb 18, 2021 2:14 pmYep, specially if they don't allow fans which unfortunately may be a real possibility.BozoneCat wrote: ↑Wed Feb 17, 2021 10:53 pmTHIS, all day!94VegasCat wrote: ↑Wed Feb 17, 2021 10:16 pmOne way to look at it is that we get 7 home games. We’ve owned their asses in wagriz.
I booked rooms in Missoula last night. It's not that I don't think they SHOULD allow fans and max-capacity; it's that I'm not confident in those making these big decisions. I also think it's safe for schools to be open. And bars to be open later than 10, (And now midnight) And for people to wear masks if they want without a mandate by the health department.
There has been a lot that hasn't made sense all the time. Still forcing people to wear masks, "social distance", limited capacity in stadiums, and no tailgating after almost two years and a vaccine would be par for the course in my opinion.
And I would disagree with every one of those restrictions! What in the hell would we need a vaccine for if after it is available to all people we still have restrictions. Trying to wrap my head around that but I'll wait to get angry until we cross that bridge!
I sure hope we can have unlimited capacity by this fall. I think it depends on how vaccinations go this spring/summer. People choosing not to get them will have devastating consequences. We are a few weeks away from getting caught up on vaccine deliveries, so by May/June, all adults should have the opportunity to get vaccinated. Still waiting on research results to come out for younger children, as those studies just started in December, but my guess is they won’t find any significant risks with vaccinating kids, so hopefully by the start of school in the fall, kids should have the chance to get vaccinated too. Even right now, it looks like the consensus is that if teachers are vaccinated, schools should be safe to reopen fully, and if triple down on that if kids are vaccinated as well. All that happens, I can’t see a logical (yeah, I know) reason why we can’t be allowed to tailgate, pack the stadium, etc. They’ll still likely try to get people to wear masks, but obviously once the game gets going, that’s not going to happen. And even as a pretty hardcore pro-mask, pro-shutdown guy, I’m 100% in favor of that - assuming we have a high percentage of people getting their vaccine.