There are numerous head coaches who call plays without it being a problem. Seeing as how the new OC has zero play calling experience, I don’t think it would be bad for Vigen to have some responsibility there.rivercat wrote: ↑Sat Feb 13, 2021 9:08 amDoesn't work very well at Nebraska with Frost and Lubick. Head coaches need to let their coordinators do their jobs. I hope Vigen doesn't call plays.bobcat99 wrote: ↑Sat Feb 13, 2021 8:47 amVigen has a lot of play calling experience. I imagine he’ll do the play calling here too.spring creek cat wrote: ↑Sat Feb 13, 2021 7:46 amI am really up in the air on this hire! I really want to be nervous and upset that he didn’t hire an OC with some play calling experience, but then realized Choate hadn’t hired one of those in awhile either!
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I honestly can't think of any successful coaches at the college level that call the offense. A rookie HC has a lot to deal with in a game so I really hope Vigen doesn't take responsibility for calling the offense. He'll be listening in and will give his opinion and I'm sure will make some calls but I hope not all.bobcat99 wrote: ↑Sat Feb 13, 2021 12:52 pmThere are numerous head coaches who call plays without it being a problem. Seeing as how the new OC has zero play calling experience, I don’t think it would be bad for Vigen to have some responsibility there.rivercat wrote: ↑Sat Feb 13, 2021 9:08 amDoesn't work very well at Nebraska with Frost and Lubick. Head coaches need to let their coordinators do their jobs. I hope Vigen doesn't call plays.bobcat99 wrote: ↑Sat Feb 13, 2021 8:47 amVigen has a lot of play calling experience. I imagine he’ll do the play calling here too.spring creek cat wrote: ↑Sat Feb 13, 2021 7:46 amI am really up in the air on this hire! I really want to be nervous and upset that he didn’t hire an OC with some play calling experience, but then realized Choate hadn’t hired one of those in awhile either!
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I’m pretty confident Ohio State, and Oklahoma are 2 quick examples of a HC who call plays.rivercat wrote: ↑Sat Feb 13, 2021 1:14 pmI honestly can't think of any successful coaches at the college level that call the offense. A rookie HC has a lot to deal with in a game so I really hope Vigen doesn't take responsibility for calling the offense. He'll be listening in and will give his opinion and I'm sure will make some calls but I hope not all.bobcat99 wrote: ↑Sat Feb 13, 2021 12:52 pmThere are numerous head coaches who call plays without it being a problem. Seeing as how the new OC has zero play calling experience, I don’t think it would be bad for Vigen to have some responsibility there.rivercat wrote: ↑Sat Feb 13, 2021 9:08 amDoesn't work very well at Nebraska with Frost and Lubick. Head coaches need to let their coordinators do their jobs. I hope Vigen doesn't call plays.bobcat99 wrote: ↑Sat Feb 13, 2021 8:47 amVigen has a lot of play calling experience. I imagine he’ll do the play calling here too.spring creek cat wrote: ↑Sat Feb 13, 2021 7:46 amI am really up in the air on this hire! I really want to be nervous and upset that he didn’t hire an OC with some play calling experience, but then realized Choate hadn’t hired one of those in awhile either!
I do agree it’s a lot for a rookie head coach, and something Choate talked about as he took on too much right away. I’d like to see him and Housewright work together throughout the week and go from there.
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A major benefit of the HC calling the offense's plays is that if your OC gets hired away, your offense doesn't have to change with a new OC. Just one advantage to a HC calling plays.
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Ok, that's 2. It is extremely uncommon for successful college HC's to call the offense. I think Vigen experience is needed on the offense. My hope is that he works with Housewright and probably Udy during the week to game plan and can focus on the entire game.Bozcat003 wrote: ↑Sat Feb 13, 2021 1:19 pmI’m pretty confident Ohio State, and Oklahoma are 2 quick examples of a HC who call plays.rivercat wrote: ↑Sat Feb 13, 2021 1:14 pmI honestly can't think of any successful coaches at the college level that call the offense. A rookie HC has a lot to deal with in a game so I really hope Vigen doesn't take responsibility for calling the offense. He'll be listening in and will give his opinion and I'm sure will make some calls but I hope not all.bobcat99 wrote: ↑Sat Feb 13, 2021 12:52 pmThere are numerous head coaches who call plays without it being a problem. Seeing as how the new OC has zero play calling experience, I don’t think it would be bad for Vigen to have some responsibility there.rivercat wrote: ↑Sat Feb 13, 2021 9:08 amDoesn't work very well at Nebraska with Frost and Lubick. Head coaches need to let their coordinators do their jobs. I hope Vigen doesn't call plays.bobcat99 wrote: ↑Sat Feb 13, 2021 8:47 amVigen has a lot of play calling experience. I imagine he’ll do the play calling here too.spring creek cat wrote: ↑Sat Feb 13, 2021 7:46 amI am really up in the air on this hire! I really want to be nervous and upset that he didn’t hire an OC with some play calling experience, but then realized Choate hadn’t hired one of those in awhile either!
I do agree it’s a lot for a rookie head coach, and something Choate talked about as he took on too much right away. I’d like to see him and Housewright work together throughout the week and go from there.
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Lincoln Riley at Oklahoma. Ryan Day at Ohio State. Jeff Brohm. Dana Holgerson. Paul Chryst just announced he’s going to call plays. Jimbo Fisher. Mike Leach. Dan Mullen. David Cutcliffe.rivercat wrote: ↑Sat Feb 13, 2021 1:14 pmI honestly can't think of any successful coaches at the college level that call the offense. A rookie HC has a lot to deal with in a game so I really hope Vigen doesn't take responsibility for calling the offense. He'll be listening in and will give his opinion and I'm sure will make some calls but I hope not all.bobcat99 wrote: ↑Sat Feb 13, 2021 12:52 pmThere are numerous head coaches who call plays without it being a problem. Seeing as how the new OC has zero play calling experience, I don’t think it would be bad for Vigen to have some responsibility there.rivercat wrote: ↑Sat Feb 13, 2021 9:08 amDoesn't work very well at Nebraska with Frost and Lubick. Head coaches need to let their coordinators do their jobs. I hope Vigen doesn't call plays.bobcat99 wrote: ↑Sat Feb 13, 2021 8:47 amVigen has a lot of play calling experience. I imagine he’ll do the play calling here too.spring creek cat wrote: ↑Sat Feb 13, 2021 7:46 amI am really up in the air on this hire! I really want to be nervous and upset that he didn’t hire an OC with some play calling experience, but then realized Choate hadn’t hired one of those in awhile either!
I’m sure there are more. That’s off the top of my head.
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Mike Gundy might. I know he used to, not sure if he still does.
Steve Sarkisian probably will at Texas. Scott Frost used to, and still does somewhat.
Steve Sarkisian probably will at Texas. Scott Frost used to, and still does somewhat.
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Mike Leach doesn't and actually says the HC shouldn't. At least half the HC's listed above are not successful.
We will see. I think it will not be good if Vigen takes the responsibility for calling the offense.
We will see. I think it will not be good if Vigen takes the responsibility for calling the offense.
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None of that is true.
Leach does call plays. He has said being the HC, the OC, and play caller is too much. He’s not the OC, but he calls plays. There’s a significant difference.
Which coach isn’t successful? I believe every single one has an overall winning record? And there are more coaches at the lower levels that call plays. I believe Beau Baldwin did.
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https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.si.com ... ys-its-notbobcat99 wrote: ↑Sat Feb 13, 2021 2:00 pmNone of that is true.
Leach does call plays. He has said being the HC, the OC, and play caller is too much. He’s not the OC, but he calls plays. There’s a significant difference.
Which coach isn’t successful? I believe every single one has an overall winning record? And there are more coaches at the lower levels that call plays. I believe Beau Baldwin did.
W. Virginia and Purdue are not good. Don't know or care to google some of the others.
Hope Vigen doesn't call the offense.
I'm done.
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It’s important to read more than the headlines.rivercat wrote: ↑Sat Feb 13, 2021 2:08 pmhttps://www.google.com/amp/s/www.si.com ... ys-its-notbobcat99 wrote: ↑Sat Feb 13, 2021 2:00 pmNone of that is true.
Leach does call plays. He has said being the HC, the OC, and play caller is too much. He’s not the OC, but he calls plays. There’s a significant difference.
Which coach isn’t successful? I believe every single one has an overall winning record? And there are more coaches at the lower levels that call plays. I believe Beau Baldwin did.
W. Virginia and Purdue are not good. Don't know or care to google some of the others.
Hope Vigen doesn't call the offense.
I'm done.
“If you’re coordinating and calling plays and you’re the head coach,” Leach added, “it’s too big of a job.”
Brohm was excellent at Western Kentucky. Purdue is a tough school to win at. Again, he’s won more than he’s lost.To be clear, Leach certainly didn’t say it can’t be done. And he didn’t suggest that Riley isn’t doing a good job of it. In fact, Leach explained further why he’s always insisted on calling the plays as the head coach at Texas Tech, Washington State and now Mississippi State.
Holgerson doesn’t coach at West Virginia anymore, but he went 61-40 there as a HC. Is that not good? News to me.
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Half of the names are bad! No, I won’t do any research to see if that’s true or not!
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bobcat99 wrote: ↑Sat Feb 13, 2021 12:52 pmrivercat wrote: ↑Sat Feb 13, 2021 9:08 amDoesn't work very well at Nebraska with Frost and Lubick. Head coaches need to let their coordinators do their jobs. I hope Vigen doesn't call plays.bobcat99 wrote: ↑Sat Feb 13, 2021 8:47 amVigen has a lot of play calling experience. I imagine he’ll do the play calling here too.spring creek cat wrote: ↑Sat Feb 13, 2021 7:46 amI am really up in the air on this hire! I really want to be nervous and upset that he didn’t hire an OC with some play calling experience, but then realized Choate hadn’t hired one of those in awhile either!
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There are numerous head coaches who call plays without it being a problem. Seeing as how the new OC has zero play calling experience, I don’t think it would be bad for Vigen to have some responsibility there.
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Using feelings over facts is usually a bad way to win an argument, eh?
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Is it a pillow fight when they're actually discussing football things? If you post something incorrect on the board, or something others don't agree with, you will get called out and have others disagree with you. There's literally nothing wrong with this discussion. Nobody is calling anyone names, or saying someone is an idiot.BobcatOninetails wrote: ↑Sat Feb 13, 2021 2:42 pmbobcat99 wrote: ↑Sat Feb 13, 2021 12:52 pmrivercat wrote: ↑Sat Feb 13, 2021 9:08 amDoesn't work very well at Nebraska with Frost and Lubick. Head coaches need to let their coordinators do their jobs. I hope Vigen doesn't call plays.bobcat99 wrote: ↑Sat Feb 13, 2021 8:47 amVigen has a lot of play calling experience. I imagine he’ll do the play calling here too.spring creek cat wrote: ↑Sat Feb 13, 2021 7:46 amI am really up in the air on this hire! I really want to be nervous and upset that he didn’t hire an OC with some play calling experience, but then realized Choate hadn’t hired one of those in awhile either!
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There are numerous head coaches who call plays without it being a problem. Seeing as how the new OC has zero play calling experience, I don’t think it would be bad for Vigen to have some responsibility there.
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Are we not allowed to disagree?BobcatOninetails wrote: ↑Sat Feb 13, 2021 2:42 pmbobcat99 wrote: ↑Sat Feb 13, 2021 12:52 pmrivercat wrote: ↑Sat Feb 13, 2021 9:08 amDoesn't work very well at Nebraska with Frost and Lubick. Head coaches need to let their coordinators do their jobs. I hope Vigen doesn't call plays.bobcat99 wrote: ↑Sat Feb 13, 2021 8:47 amVigen has a lot of play calling experience. I imagine he’ll do the play calling here too.spring creek cat wrote: ↑Sat Feb 13, 2021 7:46 amI am really up in the air on this hire! I really want to be nervous and upset that he didn’t hire an OC with some play calling experience, but then realized Choate hadn’t hired one of those in awhile either!
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There are numerous head coaches who call plays without it being a problem. Seeing as how the new OC has zero play calling experience, I don’t think it would be bad for Vigen to have some responsibility there.
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Do you ask your wife to "let you be the man in the relationship"?
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Is...is that not how it’s done? Don’t tell me I’ve been doing it wrong all these years!
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Here's an idea. Cats vs UNC 2019 is on ch 752 on Pluto TV. Fourth quarter just started. Looking good for MSU
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