Choate has said this all along.

[bobcatozzy]

Backs up everything coach has been saying all this time.
https://www.clarionledger.com/story/spo ... 603033002/

[bobcat99]

Backs up everything coach has been saying all this time.
https://www.clarionledger.com/story/spo ... 603033002/

Those resources don’t come for free either. An even playing field isn’t realistic.

[allcat]

Backs up everything coach has been saying all this time.
https://www.clarionledger.com/story/spo ... 603033002/

Those resources don’t come for free either. An even playing field isn’t realistic.

It's a little like fair taxes. They don't exist either.

[ND0479]

PrimeTime bringing socialism to CFB...

[GavinDonos]

Regulation isn't the same as socialism. Just to be clear. We are dealing with a private organization (NCAA) that is supposed to be the steward of fair competition among it's membership. In that case regulation isn't necessarily a bad thing, in my opinion.

All of the professional sports regulate their terms of engagement. Big markets still hold an advantage, but small markets still have a fighting chance. If you're an organization that executes more effectively than others, or are historically more appealing than others, then that is a fair advantage. If you've simply got mountains of money than everyone else and that is your only reason for succeeding on the playing field, then it degrades the integrity of the sport itself.

I've got a feeling that Alabama would still be piling up national championships simply based on their model of operation, coaching personnel, and legacy... no shame there.

I'm not a fan of socialism, but I am a fan of parity via regulation when it comes to things like college athletics.

[AFCAT]

I think it would be more beneficial and realistic to have his players set a goal of getting a good college degree rather hoping for an NFL shot. Getting to the NFL would be great but very few of his players will ever see an NFL contract. That’s just the reality of college football.

[wapiti]

What is not mentioned is what sort of priority is Jackson State putting on football.

Some of this uneven playing field is the effort each school puts into football program and much of that requires money.
So yes the large schools will have more resources to put into football, but don't sit back and wine about how unfair it is. Life is unfair.

Dieon needs to get the school, alum, and boosters to commit to improving the program. He needs them to buy into his vison to improve the team and its facilities. Not complain how unfair it is and that the large schools should be forced to share their resources with a smaller school. That is where the socialism argument comes into play.

and yes the NCAA does heavily favors the power 5 conferences. What did Dieon expect when he went to Jackson State?

What confuses me is that the HBCUs traditionally have large stadiums with large attendance numbers, but yet are unable to commit to improving the program with that resource. They should be rolling in monetary funds with the attendance numbers they brag about, but yet they seem to be broke.

[coloradocat]

You mean not every school has the same resources as Florida State?

[kennethnoisewater]

As somebody else mentioned, the players there shouldn't have an expectation that they're going to play in the NFL. They should realize they have an outside shot at it--way outside. Deion is being disingenuous if he tells that recruit that he can get him there, because out of the other side of his mouth he's saying it's an uneven playing field. If he really cares about getting these kids to the NFL, should he be telling them to play at a bigger school with better facilities and bigger budgets? I mean you can't just blame facilities and budgets. You could pour all the money in the world into that program and they're still not getting the same competition they'd be getting in a Power-5 conference. Change the focus to getting an education, getting to compete, and getting to play for an NFL Hall of Famer (with an outside chance at getting looked at by the NFL), and those are attainable goals for the job he's in.

[AFCAT]

I can’t think of a quicker way to sicken a whole bunch of your players than to take them all out to eat at Golden Corral on a regular basis.

[BleedingBLue]

I can’t think of a quicker way to sicken a whole bunch of your players than to take them all out to eat at Golden Corral on a regular basis.

That's what I was thinking their practices will be conducted in the bathroom.

[CelticCat]

I can’t think of a quicker way to sicken a whole bunch of your players than to take them all out to eat at Golden Corral on a regular basis.

I mean, most college cafetieres are just Golden Corral's, really.

[bobcat99]

Regulation isn't the same as socialism. Just to be clear. We are dealing with a private organization (NCAA) that is supposed to be the steward of fair competition among it's membership. In that case regulation isn't necessarily a bad thing, in my opinion.

All of the professional sports regulate their terms of engagement. Big markets still hold an advantage, but small markets still have a fighting chance. If you're an organization that executes more effectively than others, or are historically more appealing than others, then that is a fair advantage. If you've simply got mountains of money than everyone else and that is your only reason for succeeding on the playing field, then it degrades the integrity of the sport itself.

I've got a feeling that Alabama would still be piling up national championships simply based on their model of operation, coaching personnel, and legacy... no shame there.

I'm not a fan of socialism, but I am a fan of parity via regulation when it comes to things like college athletics.

How do you regulate it?

You can only sign so many 5 star recruits?

You can only spend so much money?

You can only have so many weights and power racks?

A fancy gym doesn’t make for a better player than a run down gym with the proper equipment. TV’s in every locker doesn’t make for better players, they’re just recruitment tools.

[VimSince03]

I can’t think of a quicker way to sicken a whole bunch of your players than to take them all out to eat at Golden Corral on a regular basis.

I mean, most college cafetieres are just Golden Corral's, really.

[Hi-Line Bobcat]

Regulation isn't the same as socialism. Just to be clear. We are dealing with a private organization (NCAA) that is supposed to be the steward of fair competition among it's membership. In that case regulation isn't necessarily a bad thing, in my opinion.

All of the professional sports regulate their terms of engagement. Big markets still hold an advantage, but small markets still have a fighting chance. If you're an organization that executes more effectively than others, or are historically more appealing than others, then that is a fair advantage. If you've simply got mountains of money than everyone else and that is your only reason for succeeding on the playing field, then it degrades the integrity of the sport itself.

I've got a feeling that Alabama would still be piling up national championships simply based on their model of operation, coaching personnel, and legacy... no shame there.

I'm not a fan of socialism, but I am a fan of parity via regulation when it comes to things like college athletics.

Regulation is probably the biggest component of socialism.

[AFCAT]

I can’t think of a quicker way to sicken a whole bunch of your players than to take them all out to eat at Golden Corral on a regular basis.

I mean, most college cafetieres are just Golden Corral's, really.

You need to check out the MSU dining facilities. Pretty sweet. Rendezvous is open to everyone. No chocolate fountains though and I didn’t nearly lose my life trying to get a plate of food. I went to a Golden Corral in Alabama once and was nearly trampled next to the fried shrimp section.

[Cataholic]

What is not mentioned is what sort of priority is Jackson State putting on football.

Some of this uneven playing field is the effort each school puts into football program and much of that requires money.
So yes the large schools will have more resources to put into football, but don't sit back and wine about how unfair it is. Life is unfair.

Dieon needs to get the school, alum, and boosters to commit to improving the program. He needs them to buy into his vison to improve the team and its facilities. Not complain how unfair it is and that the large schools should be forced to share their resources with a smaller school. That is where the socialism argument comes into play.

and yes the NCAA does heavily favors the power 5 conferences. What did Dieon expect when he went to Jackson State?

What confuses me is that the HBCUs traditionally have large stadiums with large attendance numbers, but yet are unable to commit to improving the program with that resource. They should be rolling in monetary funds with the attendance numbers they brag about, but yet they seem to be broke.

Most HBCU’s do not have good financial status. Grambling only has enrollment of about 5,000. Their stadium only seats 18,000 and is way behind MSU. The stadium probably is comparable to Weber, except Weber is nicer with better supporting facilities. If you have ever been to the city of Grambling, you understand how tough it would be to recruit kids for anything. The city is only about 5,000 in population. It’s neighbor is Ruston (population of 20,000) where Louisiana Tech is located and they have a 40,000 seat stadium. The two cities combined are smaller than Butte. I have been to the city of Grambling and would compare it to the city of Manhattan or Whitehall.

Deion should have known what he was getting into.

[CelticCat]

I can’t think of a quicker way to sicken a whole bunch of your players than to take them all out to eat at Golden Corral on a regular basis.

I mean, most college cafetieres are just Golden Corral's, really.

You need to check out the MSU dining facilities. Pretty sweet. Rendezvous is open to everyone. No chocolate fountains though and I didn’t nearly lose my life trying to get a plate of food. I went to a Golden Corral in Alabama once and was nearly trampled next to the fried shrimp section.

I realize MSU has massively improved over the last 10-15 years. Hell I cooked at Miller for a semester in 2007 so I know all about it.

[onceacat]

What is not mentioned is what sort of priority is Jackson State putting on football.

Some of this uneven playing field is the effort each school puts into football program and much of that requires money.
So yes the large schools will have more resources to put into football, but don't sit back and wine about how unfair it is. Life is unfair.

Dieon needs to get the school, alum, and boosters to commit to improving the program. He needs them to buy into his vison to improve the team and its facilities. Not complain how unfair it is and that the large schools should be forced to share their resources with a smaller school. That is where the socialism argument comes into play.

and yes the NCAA does heavily favors the power 5 conferences. What did Dieon expect when he went to Jackson State?

What confuses me is that the HBCUs traditionally have large stadiums with large attendance numbers, but yet are unable to commit to improving the program with that resource. They should be rolling in monetary funds with the attendance numbers they brag about, but yet they seem to be broke.

Most HBCU’s do not have good financial status. Grambling only has enrollment of about 5,000. Their stadium only seats 18,000 and is way behind MSU. The stadium probably is comparable to Weber, except Weber is nicer with better supporting facilities. If you have ever been to the city of Grambling, you understand how tough it would be to recruit kids for anything. The city is only about 5,000 in population. It’s neighbor is Ruston (population of 20,000) where Louisiana Tech is located and they have a 40,000 seat stadium. The two cities combined are smaller than Butte. I have been to the city of Grambling and would compare it to the city of Manhattan or Whitehall.

Deion should have known what he was getting into.

How exactly do you propose that HCBUs fundraiser from boosters & alum? HCBUs are a relic of Jim Crow “Separate but impoverished”.

The Ohios and Alabamas...and he’ll, even the Montanas of the world have alum & booster networks to pull from that HCBUs might be able to dream of in another 6-8 generations.

[GoldstoneCat]

What is not mentioned is what sort of priority is Jackson State putting on football.

Some of this uneven playing field is the effort each school puts into football program and much of that requires money.
So yes the large schools will have more resources to put into football, but don't sit back and wine about how unfair it is. Life is unfair.

Dieon needs to get the school, alum, and boosters to commit to improving the program. He needs them to buy into his vison to improve the team and its facilities. Not complain how unfair it is and that the large schools should be forced to share their resources with a smaller school. That is where the socialism argument comes into play.

and yes the NCAA does heavily favors the power 5 conferences. What did Dieon expect when he went to Jackson State?

What confuses me is that the HBCUs traditionally have large stadiums with large attendance numbers, but yet are unable to commit to improving the program with that resource. They should be rolling in monetary funds with the attendance numbers they brag about, but yet they seem to be broke.

Most HBCU’s do not have good financial status. Grambling only has enrollment of about 5,000. Their stadium only seats 18,000 and is way behind MSU. The stadium probably is comparable to Weber, except Weber is nicer with better supporting facilities. If you have ever been to the city of Grambling, you understand how tough it would be to recruit kids for anything. The city is only about 5,000 in population. It’s neighbor is Ruston (population of 20,000) where Louisiana Tech is located and they have a 40,000 seat stadium. The two cities combined are smaller than Butte. I have been to the city of Grambling and would compare it to the city of Manhattan or Whitehall.

Deion should have known what he was getting into.

How exactly do you propose that HCBUs fundraiser from boosters & alum? HCBUs are a relic of Jim Crow “Separate but impoverished”.

The Ohios and Alabamas...and he’ll, even the Montanas of the world have alum & booster networks to pull from that HCBUs might be able to dream of in another 6-8 generations.

This, exactly this. They're a historically under-served group of institutions that gave black students often their only opportunity at higher education. They're not brimming with billionaire alumni. There's no way a Jackson state, a Grambling, etc could ever commit the resources to football that we do, um does, ndsu does, never mind the big schools. Their challenges are more similar to northern Colorado, suu, Portland state; forgotten state-affilliated schools with way bigger brothers to compete with.