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Re: MSU’s next head coach
Posted: Fri Jan 08, 2021 1:49 pm
by catatac
coloradocat wrote: ↑Fri Jan 08, 2021 11:47 am
How about these MWVC coordinators as candidates:
Jason Eck - SDSU OC/OL (MSU ties)
David Braun - NDSU DC
Jeremiah Johnson - UNI DC
I know we have Kane already as a top candidate for HC but these two guys look good.
If we lose Choate I have confidence there will be a national search and we'll get another excellent head coach. My personal opinion is that Kane is probably not quite ready for that role yet. This program is at a point now where you bring in either a highly decorated HC or a high profile rising star to take over for a few years before they move up to an FBS HC position. I'm sure some will say, yes that could be Kane and maybe so but again, just my gut feel is that he's not quite ready.
Obviously we hit the jackpot with Choate. Remember when he first showed up and preached early on, starting with the culture of the program and his players being rock solid people in the community and classroom first, and good football players last? Remember the proactive approach of telling his players they needed to be the leaders on campus in terms of attitudes on women, preventing assaults, date rape, etc. He actually implemented a culture program, not just a bunch of lip service. He talked about how you start there and the wins on the football field will eventually come. All of that came true and you look at the almost non existent player scrapes with the law, the highest ever GPA, and now of course a team that went further in the playoffs than any MSU team in decades. So he obviously knows what is most critical to running a program and also knows how to do it successfully. Oh, and then throw in the fact that he's a pretty damn good X's and O's guy, he has contacts everywhere, he can obviously recruit, fundraising, facility expansion, excellent coaching hires, and he seems to be pretty good at marketing the program!
Re: MSU’s next head coach
Posted: Fri Jan 08, 2021 1:54 pm
by AFCAT
coloradocat wrote: ↑Fri Jan 08, 2021 11:47 am
How about these MWVC coordinators as candidates:
Jason Eck - SDSU OC/OL (MSU ties)
David Braun - NDSU DC
Jeremiah Johnson - UNI DC
I know we have Kane already as a top candidate for HC but these two guys look good.
No, absolutely
NO coaches from North Dakota allowed to
EVER run MSU football again! I don’t care how many Natties they have won. I
STILL have deep scars from our previous mistake going that route.
Re: MSU’s next head coach
Posted: Fri Jan 08, 2021 2:38 pm
by RickRund
AFCAT wrote: ↑Fri Jan 08, 2021 1:54 pm
coloradocat wrote: ↑Fri Jan 08, 2021 11:47 am
How about these MWVC coordinators as candidates:
Jason Eck - SDSU OC/OL (MSU ties)
David Braun - NDSU DC
Jeremiah Johnson - UNI DC
I know we have Kane already as a top candidate for HC but these two guys look good.
No, absolutely
NO coaches from North Dakota allowed to
EVER run MSU football again! I don’t care how many Natties they have won. I
STILL have deep scars from our previous mistake going that route.
I remember when that guy showed up I was so darned jacked. We were going to be dominant...
Re: MSU’s next head coach
Posted: Fri Jan 08, 2021 2:47 pm
by vike_king
RickRund wrote: ↑Fri Jan 08, 2021 2:38 pm
AFCAT wrote: ↑Fri Jan 08, 2021 1:54 pm
coloradocat wrote: ↑Fri Jan 08, 2021 11:47 am
How about these MWVC coordinators as candidates:
Jason Eck - SDSU OC/OL (MSU ties)
David Braun - NDSU DC
Jeremiah Johnson - UNI DC
I know we have Kane already as a top candidate for HC but these two guys look good.
No, absolutely
NO coaches from North Dakota allowed to
EVER run MSU football again! I don’t care how many Natties they have won. I
STILL have deep scars from our previous mistake going that route.
I remember when that guy showed up I was so darned jacked. We were going to be dominant...
Really? I knew it would be a ******-show. One of the few predictions I ever got right.....well, I got some right but didn't act on them. Wish I had bought Apple stock when it was in the tank......
Re: MSU’s next head coach
Posted: Fri Jan 08, 2021 2:49 pm
by coloradocat
RickRund wrote: ↑Fri Jan 08, 2021 2:38 pm
AFCAT wrote: ↑Fri Jan 08, 2021 1:54 pm
coloradocat wrote: ↑Fri Jan 08, 2021 11:47 am
How about these MWVC coordinators as candidates:
Jason Eck - SDSU OC/OL (MSU ties)
David Braun - NDSU DC
Jeremiah Johnson - UNI DC
I know we have Kane already as a top candidate for HC but these two guys look good.
No, absolutely
NO coaches from North Dakota allowed to
EVER run MSU football again! I don’t care how many Natties they have won. I
STILL have deep scars from our previous mistake going that route.
I remember when that guy showed up I was so darned jacked. We were going to be dominant...
I didn't follow the Bobcats prior to attending so my only knowledge of the 20th century comes from this website. I had to look up who you are referring to and laughed when I saw it.
Re: MSU’s next head coach
Posted: Fri Jan 08, 2021 3:22 pm
by RickRund
Thought I would check that other site and one of their commenters, player rep, commented that hauck is twice the coach that Choate is. Not sure if that is sarcasm, don't think so... Don't remember who posted it but that since hauck finally has his guys now we are toast.
I mean, it is good to be confident but now time will tell...
Re: MSU’s next head coach
Posted: Fri Jan 08, 2021 3:47 pm
by Cat4LifeHouseDivided
catatac wrote: ↑Fri Jan 08, 2021 1:49 pm
coloradocat wrote: ↑Fri Jan 08, 2021 11:47 am
How about these MWVC coordinators as candidates:
Jason Eck - SDSU OC/OL (MSU ties)
David Braun - NDSU DC
Jeremiah Johnson - UNI DC
I know we have Kane already as a top candidate for HC but these two guys look good.
If we lose Choate I have confidence there will be a national search and we'll get another excellent head coach. My personal opinion is that Kane is probably not quite ready for that role yet. This program is at a point now where you bring in either a highly decorated HC or a high profile rising star to take over for a few years before they move up to an FBS HC position. I'm sure some will say, yes that could be Kane and maybe so but again, just my gut feel is that he's not quite ready.
Obviously we hit the jackpot with Choate. Remember when he first showed up and preached early on, starting with the culture of the program and his players being rock solid people in the community and classroom first, and good football players last? Remember the proactive approach of telling his players they needed to be the leaders on campus in terms of attitudes on women, preventing assaults, date rape, etc. He actually implemented a culture program, not just a bunch of lip service. He talked about how you start there and the wins on the football field will eventually come. All of that came true and you look at the almost non existent player scrapes with the law, the highest ever GPA, and now of course a team that went further in the playoffs than any MSU team in decades. So he obviously knows what is most critical to running a program and also knows how to do it successfully. Oh, and then throw in the fact that he's a pretty damn good X's and O's guy, he has contacts everywhere, he can obviously recruit, fundraising, facility expansion, excellent coaching hires, and he seems to be pretty good at marketing the program!
Im just curious how much more time you think Kane will need. Hes been coaching for what 10+ years at this level, has time with an FBS program, and has coordinator experience albeit 2 short stints.
Re: MSU’s next head coach
Posted: Fri Jan 08, 2021 4:15 pm
by imacat
No, absolutely
NO coaches from North Dakota allowed to
EVER run MSU football again! I don’t care how many Natties they have won. I
STILL have deep scars from our previous mistake going that route.
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I remember when that guy showed up I was so darned jacked. We were going to be dominant...
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You were not the Lone Ranger with that belief ... trust me! But that certainly does not rule out considering any other coaches from the program, the state or the conference.
Re: MSU’s next head coach
Posted: Fri Jan 08, 2021 4:25 pm
by AFCAT
imacat wrote: ↑Fri Jan 08, 2021 4:15 pm
No, absolutely
NO coaches from North Dakota allowed to
EVER run MSU football again! I don’t care how many Natties they have won. I
STILL have deep scars from our previous mistake going that route.
I remember when that guy showed up I was so darned jacked. We were going to be dominant...
[/quote]
You were not the Lone Ranger with that belief ... trust me! But that certainly does not rule out considering any other coaches from the program, the state or the conference.
[/quote]
I guess you missed the little smiley face.
Re: MSU’s next head coach
Posted: Fri Jan 08, 2021 4:45 pm
by coloradocat
Well we can put this thread away for a while now.
Re: MSU’s next head coach
Posted: Sat Jan 09, 2021 11:07 am
by MSUBRONCO
coloradocat wrote: ↑Fri Jan 08, 2021 4:45 pm
Well we can put this thread away for a while now.
Very happy can put this thread away, so happy to keep him! Go cats!
Re: MSU’s next head coach
Posted: Sat Jan 09, 2021 3:14 pm
by catatac
Cat4LifeHouseDivided wrote: ↑Fri Jan 08, 2021 3:47 pm
catatac wrote: ↑Fri Jan 08, 2021 1:49 pm
coloradocat wrote: ↑Fri Jan 08, 2021 11:47 am
How about these MWVC coordinators as candidates:
Jason Eck - SDSU OC/OL (MSU ties)
David Braun - NDSU DC
Jeremiah Johnson - UNI DC
I know we have Kane already as a top candidate for HC but these two guys look good.
If we lose Choate I have confidence there will be a national search and we'll get another excellent head coach. My personal opinion is that Kane is probably not quite ready for that role yet. This program is at a point now where you bring in either a highly decorated HC or a high profile rising star to take over for a few years before they move up to an FBS HC position. I'm sure some will say, yes that could be Kane and maybe so but again, just my gut feel is that he's not quite ready.
Obviously we hit the jackpot with Choate. Remember when he first showed up and preached early on, starting with the culture of the program and his players being rock solid people in the community and classroom first, and good football players last? Remember the proactive approach of telling his players they needed to be the leaders on campus in terms of attitudes on women, preventing assaults, date rape, etc. He actually implemented a culture program, not just a bunch of lip service. He talked about how you start there and the wins on the football field will eventually come. All of that came true and you look at the almost non existent player scrapes with the law, the highest ever GPA, and now of course a team that went further in the playoffs than any MSU team in decades. So he obviously knows what is most critical to running a program and also knows how to do it successfully. Oh, and then throw in the fact that he's a pretty damn good X's and O's guy, he has contacts everywhere, he can obviously recruit, fundraising, facility expansion, excellent coaching hires, and he seems to be pretty good at marketing the program!
Im just curious how much more time you think Kane will need. Hes been coaching for what 10+ years at this level, has time with an FBS program, and has coordinator experience albeit 2 short stints.
Ya, that's a great question, and I probably phrased that wrong. My point is that IMO Kane would be a huge step back from Choate in terms of capabilities in the 20 or so key skill sets that the position requires.
Re: MSU’s next head coach
Posted: Fri Jan 22, 2021 7:56 pm
by ND0479
Bump?
Re: MSU’s next head coach
Posted: Fri Jan 22, 2021 7:58 pm
by Catsrgrood
National search, here we come
Re: MSU’s next head coach
Posted: Fri Jan 22, 2021 8:00 pm
by BleedingBLue
I don't care whether the new coach is offensive or defensive minded, but he needs to be a solid dude that helps his players grow into good men and can recruit like a mad man.
Re: MSU’s next head coach
Posted: Fri Jan 22, 2021 8:01 pm
by coloradocat
ND0479 wrote: ↑Fri Jan 22, 2021 7:56 pm
Bump?
Re: MSU’s next head coach
Posted: Fri Jan 22, 2021 8:40 pm
by LoggerCat
DeNarius
Re: MSU’s next head coach
Posted: Fri Jan 22, 2021 9:03 pm
by GoldstoneCat
Alright let's assume Kane is really gone too. Where do we go? I don't think there's anyone else on staff who's ready to be HC (Bobby Daly?). Someone earlier had talked about Joey Thomas, do people here think he's ready to make that jump? Or is it just a national search and see what turns up?
Re: MSU’s next head coach
Posted: Fri Jan 22, 2021 9:09 pm
by coloradocat
National programs do national searches.
Re: MSU’s next head coach
Posted: Fri Jan 22, 2021 9:11 pm
by bobcat92
What a gut punch. Time to move one. National search will be required. Does it rule out anyone on staff? I don't think so. Shouldn't be hard to get interest in the position.