I could see them play a true "scrimmage", live plays. Situational plays, let it be beneficial for both teams. Plus I selfishly want to watch any football in person.coloradocat wrote: ↑Wed Mar 03, 2021 11:51 amIt's hard to believe a super-scrimage against one of the Frontier teams that dropped out of their spring season wouldn't benefit both teams heading into the fall. It's been a long time since these guys have hit someone they didn't share a locker room with.tetoncat wrote: ↑Wed Mar 03, 2021 11:42 amI think priority is getting good practices on clear fields to implement any new schemes. If that includes games that Coach feels can benefit us I support it. But if it rushes the process and puts changes on film for next falls opponents may not be a benefit.
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LMAO... funny chit right there. I'll save my love reps for the old lady but I think I know what Cataholic meant.
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From Cat Chat last night, it sounds like there won't be any games other than the spring game. I see his point with doing it that way because of new coaches and new systems.
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I wonder if they'll have to move the spring game out of Bozeman in order to get fans in attendance.
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I can see both sides here and I'm totally fine with the decision. Ideally we get enough work in this Spring to be all set, any new schemes installed, hit the ground running, healthy, full roster, hungry for another deep playoff run this fall. If UM and other BS teams get banged up this Spring, or perhaps get key players injured and have to limp into the real Fall season..... then we'll KNOW it was the right decision for MSU. Bobby sounds pretty confident in where the Griz team is at right now.... but that's usually the case.
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There is no upside to the new staff putting anything on film scheme-wise prior to the first game next fall. One benefit of new systems is that opponents are unfamiliar with them. Unless Vigen is going to tell his coaches to go completely vanilla, in which case what’s the point of even playing the game? All that leads to is injury and is of no benefit to the players.catatac wrote: ↑Thu Mar 04, 2021 12:22 pmI can see both sides here and I'm totally fine with the decision. Ideally we get enough work in this Spring to be all set, any new schemes installed, hit the ground running, healthy, full roster, hungry for another deep playoff run this fall. If UM and other BS teams get banged up this Spring, or perhaps get key players injured and have to limp into the real Fall season..... then we'll KNOW it was the right decision for MSU. Bobby sounds pretty confident in where the Griz team is at right now.... but that's usually the case.
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I have a feeling our first opponent in the fall will have a pretty good idea what the scheme will look like, at least on offense, regardless of whether or not we play a game in the spring.PapaG wrote: ↑Thu Mar 04, 2021 1:38 pmThere is no upside to the new staff putting anything on film scheme-wise prior to the first game next fall. One benefit of new systems is that opponents are unfamiliar with them. Unless Vigen is going to tell his coaches to go completely vanilla, in which case what’s the point of even playing the game? All that leads to is injury and is of no benefit to the players.catatac wrote: ↑Thu Mar 04, 2021 12:22 pmI can see both sides here and I'm totally fine with the decision. Ideally we get enough work in this Spring to be all set, any new schemes installed, hit the ground running, healthy, full roster, hungry for another deep playoff run this fall. If UM and other BS teams get banged up this Spring, or perhaps get key players injured and have to limp into the real Fall season..... then we'll KNOW it was the right decision for MSU. Bobby sounds pretty confident in where the Griz team is at right now.... but that's usually the case.
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I dont like this at all. I think the team needs some game preparation and to play in a couple of real games. Next September could be brutal until we get into the game again. We should beat UW. But, that is highly highly unlikely having played no games in 20 months.
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Why make it easier for opposing coaches by giving them film on a new head coach and two new coordinators?coloradocat wrote: ↑Thu Mar 04, 2021 1:48 pmI have a feeling our first opponent in the fall will have a pretty good idea what the scheme will look like, at least on offense, regardless of whether or not we play a game in the spring.PapaG wrote: ↑Thu Mar 04, 2021 1:38 pmThere is no upside to the new staff putting anything on film scheme-wise prior to the first game next fall. One benefit of new systems is that opponents are unfamiliar with them. Unless Vigen is going to tell his coaches to go completely vanilla, in which case what’s the point of even playing the game? All that leads to is injury and is of no benefit to the players.catatac wrote: ↑Thu Mar 04, 2021 12:22 pmI can see both sides here and I'm totally fine with the decision. Ideally we get enough work in this Spring to be all set, any new schemes installed, hit the ground running, healthy, full roster, hungry for another deep playoff run this fall. If UM and other BS teams get banged up this Spring, or perhaps get key players injured and have to limp into the real Fall season..... then we'll KNOW it was the right decision for MSU. Bobby sounds pretty confident in where the Griz team is at right now.... but that's usually the case.
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The chances of us winning the first three games haven't changed since the beginning of the year. It will still be tough for us to beat Wyoming and we still shouldn't have much trouble with Drake and San Diego. By then our BSC opponents will have plenty of film and any spring games would likely be ignored anyway. I'm much more concerned with our guys being rusty than with opposing coaches finding out the new wrinkles we build into the playbook. I doubt we'll see much of a Vigen/Housewright offense prior to conference play anyway. They aren't planning major changes as it is and they won't have anyone to test them against until September so they'll probably be rolled out slowly for our players' sake more than for strategy.PapaG wrote: ↑Thu Mar 04, 2021 6:28 pmWhy make it easier for opposing coaches by giving them film on a new head coach and two new coordinators?coloradocat wrote: ↑Thu Mar 04, 2021 1:48 pmI have a feeling our first opponent in the fall will have a pretty good idea what the scheme will look like, at least on offense, regardless of whether or not we play a game in the spring.PapaG wrote: ↑Thu Mar 04, 2021 1:38 pmThere is no upside to the new staff putting anything on film scheme-wise prior to the first game next fall. One benefit of new systems is that opponents are unfamiliar with them. Unless Vigen is going to tell his coaches to go completely vanilla, in which case what’s the point of even playing the game? All that leads to is injury and is of no benefit to the players.catatac wrote: ↑Thu Mar 04, 2021 12:22 pmI can see both sides here and I'm totally fine with the decision. Ideally we get enough work in this Spring to be all set, any new schemes installed, hit the ground running, healthy, full roster, hungry for another deep playoff run this fall. If UM and other BS teams get banged up this Spring, or perhaps get key players injured and have to limp into the real Fall season..... then we'll KNOW it was the right decision for MSU. Bobby sounds pretty confident in where the Griz team is at right now.... but that's usually the case.
In theory this lessens the chances of our guys getting hurt before the fall but it seems like it wouldn't be a bad idea to have an internal spring game and then play a Frontier conference at the end of April for a chance to hit someone wearing a different jersey just to get that feeling back.
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They will, but maybe not as much as you’d think. Bohl, like Choate did here, had an influence on what the offense did.coloradocat wrote: ↑Thu Mar 04, 2021 1:48 pmI have a feeling our first opponent in the fall will have a pretty good idea what the scheme will look like, at least on offense, regardless of whether or not we play a game in the spring.PapaG wrote: ↑Thu Mar 04, 2021 1:38 pmThere is no upside to the new staff putting anything on film scheme-wise prior to the first game next fall. One benefit of new systems is that opponents are unfamiliar with them. Unless Vigen is going to tell his coaches to go completely vanilla, in which case what’s the point of even playing the game? All that leads to is injury and is of no benefit to the players.catatac wrote: ↑Thu Mar 04, 2021 12:22 pmI can see both sides here and I'm totally fine with the decision. Ideally we get enough work in this Spring to be all set, any new schemes installed, hit the ground running, healthy, full roster, hungry for another deep playoff run this fall. If UM and other BS teams get banged up this Spring, or perhaps get key players injured and have to limp into the real Fall season..... then we'll KNOW it was the right decision for MSU. Bobby sounds pretty confident in where the Griz team is at right now.... but that's usually the case.
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Awesome, but we do lose practice time by not playing games. Hope we surprise UW on our way to a BSC championship in fall 2021. I already asked for leave for Frisco!
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Thanks for sharing! I have a really stupid question here, hoping somebody can boil it down for me so a 4th grader can understand. So for any teams playing the Spring season, I know the players that were going to be Seniors heading into 2020 are allowed to play this Season, but then are they also able to play in 2021? I guess what I'm saying, are the FCS teams that opted to NOT play a Spring season in the same boat in terms of player eligibility?
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Catatac if I understand what you are saying and what the Ncaa is saying. I don't think anyone's season counts this year for eligibility.
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Ok, thanks. So taking an EWU for example, any of those seniors that were supposed to have 2020 as their last season, get to play in this Spring season and then turn around again and get to play in the Fall 2021 season, assuming the school can figure out all the schollies. I figured that was the case but wasn't sure. It's all just such a cluster.bobcatozzy wrote: ↑Wed Mar 10, 2021 1:54 pmCatatac if I understand what you are saying and what the Ncaa is saying. I don't think anyone's season counts this year for eligibility.
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Every single player is given a free pass this year, they can play the spring and still play the fall or choose to sit out and still play the fall. Nothing counts against eligibility. This season is an absolute freebie.catatac wrote: ↑Wed Mar 10, 2021 11:00 amThanks for sharing! I have a really stupid question here, hoping somebody can boil it down for me so a 4th grader can understand. So for any teams playing the Spring season, I know the players that were going to be Seniors heading into 2020 are allowed to play this Season, but then are they also able to play in 2021? I guess what I'm saying, are the FCS teams that opted to NOT play a Spring season in the same boat in terms of player eligibility?
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Is anyone in any numbers following FCS spring football? I haven’t heard a thing about it on any national sports shows.
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I've been watching and following pretty closely. What do you want to know?
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Heck, that is pretty sad. Kevin Thompson, had he stayed at Sac could have had a tenth year of eligibility.
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