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VimSince03 wrote: ↑

Tue Aug 25, 2020 9:23 am

VimSince03 wrote: ↑

Tue Aug 25, 2020 9:14 am

Largest gains from players on last year's roster (every player over 5 lbs.):

WR Tanner Trafton (193 to 230) - 37
DL Marcus Wehr (220 to 255) - 35
OL Holden Sampson (265 to 287) - 22
S Rylan Ortt (185 to 205) - 20
CB Eric Zambrano (190 to 208) - 18
WR Tyrone Marshall (180 to 198) - 18
LB Alex Johnson (191 to 207) - 16
TE Ryan Davis (250 to 265) - 15
DL Byron Rollins (252 to 266) - 14
TE/FB Quincy Kent-Schneider (220 to 233) - 13
DL Kyle Finch (238 to 250) - 12
CB Level Price Jr. (178 to 190) - 12
WR Jaden Smith (195 to 206) - 11
OL Denver Krone (260 to 270) - 10
TE Ryan Lonergan (220 to 230) - 10
DE/OLB Rylan Wilcox (215 to 225) - 10
OL Zach Redd (285 to 295) - 10
LB Michael Jobman (241 to 250) - 9
LB Sal Aguilar (201 to 210) - 9
DT Blake Schmidt (270 to 278) - 8
RB DeMareus Hosey (200 to 208) - 8
OL Justus Perkins (257 to 265) - 8
OL Dylan Porter (295 to 302) - 7
DT Kyle Rygg (268 to 275) - 7
WR Lance McCutcheon (196 to 202) - 6
WR Logan Kleinhans (202 to 208) - 6
QB Blake Thelen (197 to 202) - 5
DT Chase Benson (280 to 285) - 5
OL Jack Harlow (290 to 295) - 5
S John Knight (186 to 191) - 5
S Luke May (205 to 210) - 5
WR Mark Estes (180 to 185) - 5
QB Tucker Rovig (220 to 225) - 5
CB Tylor Bohannon (175 to 180) - 5

Also keep in mind not all weights may be updated yet.

Bump (lets take the COVID talk to another thread)

Who wants to talk about GAIIIINNNNNNNNSSSSSSSSS?!

bobcat99 wrote: ↑

Tue Aug 25, 2020 4:08 pm

VimSince03 wrote: ↑

Tue Aug 25, 2020 9:23 am

VimSince03 wrote: ↑

Tue Aug 25, 2020 9:14 am

Largest gains from players on last year's roster (every player over 5 lbs.):

WR Tanner Trafton (193 to 230) - 37
DL Marcus Wehr (220 to 255) - 35
OL Holden Sampson (265 to 287) - 22
S Rylan Ortt (185 to 205) - 20
CB Eric Zambrano (190 to 208) - 18
WR Tyrone Marshall (180 to 198) - 18
LB Alex Johnson (191 to 207) - 16
TE Ryan Davis (250 to 265) - 15
DL Byron Rollins (252 to 266) - 14
TE/FB Quincy Kent-Schneider (220 to 233) - 13
DL Kyle Finch (238 to 250) - 12
CB Level Price Jr. (178 to 190) - 12
WR Jaden Smith (195 to 206) - 11
OL Denver Krone (260 to 270) - 10
TE Ryan Lonergan (220 to 230) - 10
DE/OLB Rylan Wilcox (215 to 225) - 10
OL Zach Redd (285 to 295) - 10
LB Michael Jobman (241 to 250) - 9
LB Sal Aguilar (201 to 210) - 9
DT Blake Schmidt (270 to 278) - 8
RB DeMareus Hosey (200 to 208) - 8
OL Justus Perkins (257 to 265) - 8
OL Dylan Porter (295 to 302) - 7
DT Kyle Rygg (268 to 275) - 7
WR Lance McCutcheon (196 to 202) - 6
WR Logan Kleinhans (202 to 208) - 6
QB Blake Thelen (197 to 202) - 5
DT Chase Benson (280 to 285) - 5
OL Jack Harlow (290 to 295) - 5
S John Knight (186 to 191) - 5
S Luke May (205 to 210) - 5
WR Mark Estes (180 to 185) - 5
QB Tucker Rovig (220 to 225) - 5
CB Tylor Bohannon (175 to 180) - 5

Also keep in mind not all weights may be updated yet.

Bump (lets take the COVID talk to another thread)

Who wants to talk about GAIIIINNNNNNNNSSSSSSSSS?!

Ahem.

Scientifically, there's no way players can put that much good weight on in that short of a time frame.

And this ends your regular occurring Gary rant.

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Tue Aug 25, 2020 3:09 pm

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Tue Aug 25, 2020 2:46 pm

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Tue Aug 25, 2020 9:59 am

rivercat wrote: ↑

Tue Aug 25, 2020 9:49 am

Does Zambrano transition to safety at his size?

Not sure. I thought the same thing though. Getting Jeffrey Manning and Chacho Ulloa as transfers bolstered the position and the hope is that they will be fighting for starting spots with Ty Okada. But I know they still really like Ty in the slot against certain opponents so Kane still definitely wants three safeties who can start and/or be on the field at the same time like last year. They still have Luke May in the mix as a veteran presence/special team ace, James Campbell has moved over from WR, and they really like what they've seen in Rylan Ortt's development. The rest of the safety room gets rounded out by Rfr. John Knight (who transitioned over from QB), Fr. Connor Ryan, and Fr. Jake D'Agistino (who I think will eventually become an OLB).

The starting corners are Tyrel Thomas and Greg Filer but Zambrano may be the third guy on the depth chart. Might be needed more on the outside too.

Where is Level Price Jr. on the depth chart? I saw him playing quite a bit last season.

Here is how I rank the corners on the roster:

1.) Tyrel Thomas (Senior)
2.) Greg Filer III (Senior)
3.) Eric Zambrano (Sophomore)
4.) Level Price Jr. (Sophomore)
5.) Tyler Bohannon (Redshirt Freshman)
6.) Kendric Bailey (Sophomore)
7.) Max Lenzy (Greyshirt Freshman)
8.) Miles Jackson (True Freshman)
9.) Devin Davis (True Freshman)

Throw in the fact Ty Okada will play a bunch of nickel and we have a solid 5. As usual with corners in the Big Sky, young corners are going to get an opportunity to contribute early.

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Tue Aug 25, 2020 4:26 pm

VimSince03 wrote: ↑

Tue Aug 25, 2020 3:09 pm

AFCAT wrote: ↑

Tue Aug 25, 2020 2:46 pm

VimSince03 wrote: ↑

Tue Aug 25, 2020 9:59 am

rivercat wrote: ↑

Tue Aug 25, 2020 9:49 am

Does Zambrano transition to safety at his size?

Not sure. I thought the same thing though. Getting Jeffrey Manning and Chacho Ulloa as transfers bolstered the position and the hope is that they will be fighting for starting spots with Ty Okada. But I know they still really like Ty in the slot against certain opponents so Kane still definitely wants three safeties who can start and/or be on the field at the same time like last year. They still have Luke May in the mix as a veteran presence/special team ace, James Campbell has moved over from WR, and they really like what they've seen in Rylan Ortt's development. The rest of the safety room gets rounded out by Rfr. John Knight (who transitioned over from QB), Fr. Connor Ryan, and Fr. Jake D'Agistino (who I think will eventually become an OLB).

The starting corners are Tyrel Thomas and Greg Filer but Zambrano may be the third guy on the depth chart. Might be needed more on the outside too.

Where is Level Price Jr. on the depth chart? I saw him playing quite a bit last season.

Here is how I rank the corners on the roster:

1.) Tyrel Thomas (Senior)
2.) Greg Filer III (Senior)
3.) Eric Zambrano (Sophomore)
4.) Level Price Jr. (Sophomore)
5.) Tyler Bohannon (Redshirt Freshman)
6.) Kendric Bailey (Sophomore)
7.) Max Lenzy (Greyshirt Freshman)
8.) Miles Jackson (True Freshman)
9.) Devin Davis (True Freshman)

Throw in the fact Ty Okada will play a bunch of nickel and we have a solid 5. As usual with corners in the Big Sky, young corners are going to get an opportunity to contribute early.

I take it this is the fall roster. I notice a lot of people missing.

Good list Vim. It’s got some shaking out to do, but here’s how safety looks to me:
1. Manning
2. Okada
3. Ulloa
4. Campbell
5. May
6. Knight
7. Ryan, Ortt, D’Agostino

Some sleepers in there. I really love watching Campbell on special teams. Perhaps the most interesting group this year.

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Tue Aug 25, 2020 9:59 am

rivercat wrote: ↑

Tue Aug 25, 2020 9:49 am

Does Zambrano transition to safety at his size?

Not sure. I thought the same thing though. Getting Jeffrey Manning and Chacho Ulloa as transfers bolstered the position and the hope is that they will be fighting for starting spots with Ty Okada. But I know they still really like Ty in the slot against certain opponents so Kane still definitely wants three safeties who can start and/or be on the field at the same time like last year. They still have Luke May in the mix as a veteran presence/special team ace, James Campbell has moved over from WR, and they really like what they've seen in Rylan Ortt's development. The rest of the safety room gets rounded out by Rfr. John Knight (who transitioned over from QB), Fr. Connor Ryan, and Fr. Jake D'Agistino (who I think will eventually become an OLB).

The starting corners are Tyrel Thomas and Greg Filer but Zambrano may be the third guy on the depth chart. Might be needed more on the outside too.

VimSince03 wrote: ↑

Tue Aug 25, 2020 3:09 pm

AFCAT wrote: ↑

Tue Aug 25, 2020 2:46 pm

VimSince03 wrote: ↑

Tue Aug 25, 2020 9:59 am

rivercat wrote: ↑

Tue Aug 25, 2020 9:49 am

Does Zambrano transition to safety at his size?

Not sure. I thought the same thing though. Getting Jeffrey Manning and Chacho Ulloa as transfers bolstered the position and the hope is that they will be fighting for starting spots with Ty Okada. But I know they still really like Ty in the slot against certain opponents so Kane still definitely wants three safeties who can start and/or be on the field at the same time like last year. They still have Luke May in the mix as a veteran presence/special team ace, James Campbell has moved over from WR, and they really like what they've seen in Rylan Ortt's development. The rest of the safety room gets rounded out by Rfr. John Knight (who transitioned over from QB), Fr. Connor Ryan, and Fr. Jake D'Agistino (who I think will eventually become an OLB).

The starting corners are Tyrel Thomas and Greg Filer but Zambrano may be the third guy on the depth chart. Might be needed more on the outside too.

Where is Level Price Jr. on the depth chart? I saw him playing quite a bit last season.

Here is how I rank the corners on the roster:

1.) Tyrel Thomas (Senior)
2.) Greg Filer III (Senior)
3.) Eric Zambrano (Sophomore)
4.) Level Price Jr. (Sophomore)
5.) Tyler Bohannon (Redshirt Freshman)
6.) Kendric Bailey (Sophomore)
7.) Max Lenzy (Greyshirt Freshman)
8.) Miles Jackson (True Freshman)
9.) Devin Davis (True Freshman)

Throw in the fact Ty Okada will play a bunch of nickel and we have a solid 5. As usual with corners in the Big Sky, young corners are going to get an opportunity to contribute early.

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Tue Aug 25, 2020 4:28 pm

TomCat88 wrote: ↑

Tue Aug 25, 2020 4:26 pm

VimSince03 wrote: ↑

Tue Aug 25, 2020 3:09 pm

AFCAT wrote: ↑

Tue Aug 25, 2020 2:46 pm

VimSince03 wrote: ↑

Tue Aug 25, 2020 9:59 am

rivercat wrote: ↑

Tue Aug 25, 2020 9:49 am

Does Zambrano transition to safety at his size?

Not sure. I thought the same thing though. Getting Jeffrey Manning and Chacho Ulloa as transfers bolstered the position and the hope is that they will be fighting for starting spots with Ty Okada. But I know they still really like Ty in the slot against certain opponents so Kane still definitely wants three safeties who can start and/or be on the field at the same time like last year. They still have Luke May in the mix as a veteran presence/special team ace, James Campbell has moved over from WR, and they really like what they've seen in Rylan Ortt's development. The rest of the safety room gets rounded out by Rfr. John Knight (who transitioned over from QB), Fr. Connor Ryan, and Fr. Jake D'Agistino (who I think will eventually become an OLB).

The starting corners are Tyrel Thomas and Greg Filer but Zambrano may be the third guy on the depth chart. Might be needed more on the outside too.

Where is Level Price Jr. on the depth chart? I saw him playing quite a bit last season.

Here is how I rank the corners on the roster:

1.) Tyrel Thomas (Senior)
2.) Greg Filer III (Senior)
3.) Eric Zambrano (Sophomore)
4.) Level Price Jr. (Sophomore)
5.) Tyler Bohannon (Redshirt Freshman)
6.) Kendric Bailey (Sophomore)
7.) Max Lenzy (Greyshirt Freshman)
8.) Miles Jackson (True Freshman)
9.) Devin Davis (True Freshman)

Throw in the fact Ty Okada will play a bunch of nickel and we have a solid 5. As usual with corners in the Big Sky, young corners are going to get an opportunity to contribute early.

I take it this is the fall roster. I notice a lot of people missing.

Good list Vim. It’s got some shaking out to do, but here’s how safety looks to me:
1. Manning
2. Okada
3. Ulloa
4. Campbell
5. May
6. Knight
7. Ryan, Ortt, D’Agostino

Some sleepers in there. I really love watching Campbell on special teams. Perhaps the most interesting group this year.

Who do you see missing?

TomCat88 wrote: ↑

Wed Aug 26, 2020 7:52 am

VimSince03 wrote: ↑

Tue Aug 25, 2020 4:28 pm

TomCat88 wrote: ↑

Tue Aug 25, 2020 4:26 pm

VimSince03 wrote: ↑

Tue Aug 25, 2020 3:09 pm

AFCAT wrote: ↑

Tue Aug 25, 2020 2:46 pm

VimSince03 wrote: ↑

Tue Aug 25, 2020 9:59 am

rivercat wrote: ↑

Tue Aug 25, 2020 9:49 am

Does Zambrano transition to safety at his size?

Not sure. I thought the same thing though. Getting Jeffrey Manning and Chacho Ulloa as transfers bolstered the position and the hope is that they will be fighting for starting spots with Ty Okada. But I know they still really like Ty in the slot against certain opponents so Kane still definitely wants three safeties who can start and/or be on the field at the same time like last year. They still have Luke May in the mix as a veteran presence/special team ace, James Campbell has moved over from WR, and they really like what they've seen in Rylan Ortt's development. The rest of the safety room gets rounded out by Rfr. John Knight (who transitioned over from QB), Fr. Connor Ryan, and Fr. Jake D'Agistino (who I think will eventually become an OLB).

The starting corners are Tyrel Thomas and Greg Filer but Zambrano may be the third guy on the depth chart. Might be needed more on the outside too.

Where is Level Price Jr. on the depth chart? I saw him playing quite a bit last season.

Here is how I rank the corners on the roster:

1.) Tyrel Thomas (Senior)
2.) Greg Filer III (Senior)
3.) Eric Zambrano (Sophomore)
4.) Level Price Jr. (Sophomore)
5.) Tyler Bohannon (Redshirt Freshman)
6.) Kendric Bailey (Sophomore)
7.) Max Lenzy (Greyshirt Freshman)
8.) Miles Jackson (True Freshman)
9.) Devin Davis (True Freshman)

Throw in the fact Ty Okada will play a bunch of nickel and we have a solid 5. As usual with corners in the Big Sky, young corners are going to get an opportunity to contribute early.

I take it this is the fall roster. I notice a lot of people missing.

Good list Vim. It’s got some shaking out to do, but here’s how safety looks to me:
1. Manning
2. Okada
3. Ulloa
4. Campbell
5. May
6. Knight
7. Ryan, Ortt, D’Agostino

Some sleepers in there. I really love watching Campbell on special teams. Perhaps the most interesting group this year.

Who do you see missing?

T. Campbell, Lenzy, Renning, Parker and Cole.

TomCat88 wrote: ↑

Wed Aug 26, 2020 7:52 am

VimSince03 wrote: ↑

Tue Aug 25, 2020 4:28 pm

TomCat88 wrote: ↑

Tue Aug 25, 2020 4:26 pm

VimSince03 wrote: ↑

Tue Aug 25, 2020 3:09 pm

AFCAT wrote: ↑

Tue Aug 25, 2020 2:46 pm

VimSince03 wrote: ↑

Tue Aug 25, 2020 9:59 am

rivercat wrote: ↑

Tue Aug 25, 2020 9:49 am

Does Zambrano transition to safety at his size?

Not sure. I thought the same thing though. Getting Jeffrey Manning and Chacho Ulloa as transfers bolstered the position and the hope is that they will be fighting for starting spots with Ty Okada. But I know they still really like Ty in the slot against certain opponents so Kane still definitely wants three safeties who can start and/or be on the field at the same time like last year. They still have Luke May in the mix as a veteran presence/special team ace, James Campbell has moved over from WR, and they really like what they've seen in Rylan Ortt's development. The rest of the safety room gets rounded out by Rfr. John Knight (who transitioned over from QB), Fr. Connor Ryan, and Fr. Jake D'Agistino (who I think will eventually become an OLB).

The starting corners are Tyrel Thomas and Greg Filer but Zambrano may be the third guy on the depth chart. Might be needed more on the outside too.

Where is Level Price Jr. on the depth chart? I saw him playing quite a bit last season.

Here is how I rank the corners on the roster:

1.) Tyrel Thomas (Senior)
2.) Greg Filer III (Senior)
3.) Eric Zambrano (Sophomore)
4.) Level Price Jr. (Sophomore)
5.) Tyler Bohannon (Redshirt Freshman)
6.) Kendric Bailey (Sophomore)
7.) Max Lenzy (Greyshirt Freshman)
8.) Miles Jackson (True Freshman)
9.) Devin Davis (True Freshman)

Throw in the fact Ty Okada will play a bunch of nickel and we have a solid 5. As usual with corners in the Big Sky, young corners are going to get an opportunity to contribute early.

I take it this is the fall roster. I notice a lot of people missing.

Good list Vim. It’s got some shaking out to do, but here’s how safety looks to me:
1. Manning
2. Okada
3. Ulloa
4. Campbell
5. May
6. Knight
7. Ryan, Ortt, D’Agostino

Some sleepers in there. I really love watching Campbell on special teams. Perhaps the most interesting group this year.

Who do you see missing?

T. Campbell, Lenzy, Renning, Parker and Cole.

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Wed Aug 26, 2020 9:28 am

TomCat88 wrote: ↑

Wed Aug 26, 2020 7:52 am

VimSince03 wrote: ↑

Tue Aug 25, 2020 4:28 pm

TomCat88 wrote: ↑

Tue Aug 25, 2020 4:26 pm

VimSince03 wrote: ↑

Tue Aug 25, 2020 3:09 pm

AFCAT wrote: ↑

Tue Aug 25, 2020 2:46 pm

VimSince03 wrote: ↑

Tue Aug 25, 2020 9:59 am

rivercat wrote: ↑

Tue Aug 25, 2020 9:49 am

Does Zambrano transition to safety at his size?

Not sure. I thought the same thing though. Getting Jeffrey Manning and Chacho Ulloa as transfers bolstered the position and the hope is that they will be fighting for starting spots with Ty Okada. But I know they still really like Ty in the slot against certain opponents so Kane still definitely wants three safeties who can start and/or be on the field at the same time like last year. They still have Luke May in the mix as a veteran presence/special team ace, James Campbell has moved over from WR, and they really like what they've seen in Rylan Ortt's development. The rest of the safety room gets rounded out by Rfr. John Knight (who transitioned over from QB), Fr. Connor Ryan, and Fr. Jake D'Agistino (who I think will eventually become an OLB).

The starting corners are Tyrel Thomas and Greg Filer but Zambrano may be the third guy on the depth chart. Might be needed more on the outside too.

Where is Level Price Jr. on the depth chart? I saw him playing quite a bit last season.

Here is how I rank the corners on the roster:

1.) Tyrel Thomas (Senior)
2.) Greg Filer III (Senior)
3.) Eric Zambrano (Sophomore)
4.) Level Price Jr. (Sophomore)
5.) Tyler Bohannon (Redshirt Freshman)
6.) Kendric Bailey (Sophomore)
7.) Max Lenzy (Greyshirt Freshman)
8.) Miles Jackson (True Freshman)
9.) Devin Davis (True Freshman)

Throw in the fact Ty Okada will play a bunch of nickel and we have a solid 5. As usual with corners in the Big Sky, young corners are going to get an opportunity to contribute early.

I take it this is the fall roster. I notice a lot of people missing.

Good list Vim. It’s got some shaking out to do, but here’s how safety looks to me:
1. Manning
2. Okada
3. Ulloa
4. Campbell
5. May
6. Knight
7. Ryan, Ortt, D’Agostino

Some sleepers in there. I really love watching Campbell on special teams. Perhaps the most interesting group this year.

Who do you see missing?

T. Campbell, Lenzy, Renning, Parker and Cole.

Rening and Lenzy are gray shirts.

blueandgoldblitz wrote: ↑

Wed Aug 26, 2020 12:26 am

VimSince03 wrote: ↑

Tue Aug 25, 2020 3:09 pm

AFCAT wrote: ↑

Tue Aug 25, 2020 2:46 pm

VimSince03 wrote: ↑

Tue Aug 25, 2020 9:59 am

rivercat wrote: ↑

Tue Aug 25, 2020 9:49 am

Does Zambrano transition to safety at his size?

Not sure. I thought the same thing though. Getting Jeffrey Manning and Chacho Ulloa as transfers bolstered the position and the hope is that they will be fighting for starting spots with Ty Okada. But I know they still really like Ty in the slot against certain opponents so Kane still definitely wants three safeties who can start and/or be on the field at the same time like last year. They still have Luke May in the mix as a veteran presence/special team ace, James Campbell has moved over from WR, and they really like what they've seen in Rylan Ortt's development. The rest of the safety room gets rounded out by Rfr. John Knight (who transitioned over from QB), Fr. Connor Ryan, and Fr. Jake D'Agistino (who I think will eventually become an OLB).

The starting corners are Tyrel Thomas and Greg Filer but Zambrano may be the third guy on the depth chart. Might be needed more on the outside too.

Where is Level Price Jr. on the depth chart? I saw him playing quite a bit last season.

Here is how I rank the corners on the roster:

1.) Tyrel Thomas (Senior)
2.) Greg Filer III (Senior)
3.) Eric Zambrano (Sophomore)
4.) Level Price Jr. (Sophomore)
5.) Tyler Bohannon (Redshirt Freshman)
6.) Kendric Bailey (Sophomore)
7.) Max Lenzy (Greyshirt Freshman)
8.) Miles Jackson (True Freshman)
9.) Devin Davis (True Freshman)

Throw in the fact Ty Okada will play a bunch of nickel and we have a solid 5. As usual with corners in the Big Sky, young corners are going to get an opportunity to contribute early.

Any word on Jalen Cole's recovery?

bobcat99 wrote: ↑

Tue Aug 25, 2020 4:08 pm

Ahem.

Scientifically, there's no way players can put that much good weight on in that short of a time frame.

And this ends your regular occurring Gary rant.

JDoub wrote: ↑

Mon Aug 31, 2020 9:35 am

bobcat99 wrote: ↑

Tue Aug 25, 2020 4:08 pm

Ahem.

Scientifically, there's no way players can put that much good weight on in that short of a time frame.

And this ends your regular occurring Gary rant.

You sure? Are you considering half of these guys are teenagers?

I came in my first summer as a RFr at 6'1" and 173 lbs, had never seriously been part of a weight program in HS (Butte High), was still growing at 17 yo. Rocky Gullickson running the weight room - completely changed my nutrition, workouts, etc. I checked out of spring ball that school year at 6'2" and 198lbs, no juice whatsoever (same year others were 'roiding up prior to the ban), I went from 14% body fat to 9% (before BMI), gained vertical (31 to 36), no loss of speed. I know I gained 25 lbs of good weight in one school year (July to May). I also grew over 1" and my shirt sleeve length went from 33" to 36". I think the wild card is 'are you still growing' at 17, 18, 19 years old? What's your starting point? My roomie (Mark Reinhart, one of the best pure athletes I've ever seen in my life) came in at 5'10" 170ish lbs, and stayed almost exactly the same - but he came in benching near 300lbs, had been a freak lifter for 5-6 years prior.

All to say, it is possible for teenagers to gain significant good weight in a short time (9-10-11 months), say 0.5-1% body weight/week avg, especially when their frame is still expanding - not saying all gains shown here are good weight. I think I could agree with you with the qualifier that plateau'd adults can't gain that much good weight in a years time.

bobcat99 wrote: ↑

Mon Aug 31, 2020 9:50 am

I completely agree with you!

I'm just poking fun at a certain poster here.

All in good fun!

bobcat99 wrote: ↑

Mon Aug 31, 2020 9:50 am

JDoub wrote: ↑

Mon Aug 31, 2020 9:35 am

bobcat99 wrote: ↑

Tue Aug 25, 2020 4:08 pm

Ahem.

Scientifically, there's no way players can put that much good weight on in that short of a time frame.

And this ends your regular occurring Gary rant.

You sure? Are you considering half of these guys are teenagers?

I came in my first summer as a RFr at 6'1" and 173 lbs, had never seriously been part of a weight program in HS (Butte High), was still growing at 17 yo. Rocky Gullickson running the weight room - completely changed my nutrition, workouts, etc. I checked out of spring ball that school year at 6'2" and 198lbs, no juice whatsoever (same year others were 'roiding up prior to the ban), I went from 14% body fat to 9% (before BMI), gained vertical (31 to 36), no loss of speed. I know I gained 25 lbs of good weight in one school year (July to May). I also grew over 1" and my shirt sleeve length went from 33" to 36". I think the wild card is 'are you still growing' at 17, 18, 19 years old? What's your starting point? My roomie (Mark Reinhart, one of the best pure athletes I've ever seen in my life) came in at 5'10" 170ish lbs, and stayed almost exactly the same - but he came in benching near 300lbs, had been a freak lifter for 5-6 years prior.

All to say, it is possible for teenagers to gain significant good weight in a short time (9-10-11 months), say 0.5-1% body weight/week avg, especially when their frame is still expanding - not saying all gains shown here are good weight. I think I could agree with you with the qualifier that plateau'd adults can't gain that much good weight in a years time.

I completely agree with you!

I'm just poking fun at a certain poster here.

All in good fun!

VimSince03 wrote: ↑

Wed Aug 26, 2020 9:33 am

TomCat88 wrote: ↑

Wed Aug 26, 2020 7:52 am

VimSince03 wrote: ↑

Tue Aug 25, 2020 4:28 pm

TomCat88 wrote: ↑

Tue Aug 25, 2020 4:26 pm

VimSince03 wrote: ↑

Tue Aug 25, 2020 3:09 pm

AFCAT wrote: ↑

Tue Aug 25, 2020 2:46 pm

VimSince03 wrote: ↑

Tue Aug 25, 2020 9:59 am

rivercat wrote: ↑

Tue Aug 25, 2020 9:49 am

Does Zambrano transition to safety at his size?

Not sure. I thought the same thing though. Getting Jeffrey Manning and Chacho Ulloa as transfers bolstered the position and the hope is that they will be fighting for starting spots with Ty Okada. But I know they still really like Ty in the slot against certain opponents so Kane still definitely wants three safeties who can start and/or be on the field at the same time like last year. They still have Luke May in the mix as a veteran presence/special team ace, James Campbell has moved over from WR, and they really like what they've seen in Rylan Ortt's development. The rest of the safety room gets rounded out by Rfr. John Knight (who transitioned over from QB), Fr. Connor Ryan, and Fr. Jake D'Agistino (who I think will eventually become an OLB).

The starting corners are Tyrel Thomas and Greg Filer but Zambrano may be the third guy on the depth chart. Might be needed more on the outside too.

Where is Level Price Jr. on the depth chart? I saw him playing quite a bit last season.

Here is how I rank the corners on the roster:

1.) Tyrel Thomas (Senior)
2.) Greg Filer III (Senior)
3.) Eric Zambrano (Sophomore)
4.) Level Price Jr. (Sophomore)
5.) Tyler Bohannon (Redshirt Freshman)
6.) Kendric Bailey (Sophomore)
7.) Max Lenzy (Greyshirt Freshman)
8.) Miles Jackson (True Freshman)
9.) Devin Davis (True Freshman)

Throw in the fact Ty Okada will play a bunch of nickel and we have a solid 5. As usual with corners in the Big Sky, young corners are going to get an opportunity to contribute early.

I take it this is the fall roster. I notice a lot of people missing.

Good list Vim. It’s got some shaking out to do, but here’s how safety looks to me:
1. Manning
2. Okada
3. Ulloa
4. Campbell
5. May
6. Knight
7. Ryan, Ortt, D’Agostino

Some sleepers in there. I really love watching Campbell on special teams. Perhaps the most interesting group this year.

Who do you see missing?

T. Campbell, Lenzy, Renning, Parker and Cole.

Unsure on Tommy Campbell (freshman from Columbus). Two true freshman coming off senior year injuries were Max Lenzy and Jaelen Renning so they are likely grey shirting (won't be on the roster until next spring). I'm you are referring to Naquen Parker? He's #10 on the current roster. Jalen Cole likely won't be able to play again if he didn't make it back for this year. The goal last fall was for him to rest and see how he rehabbed with his neck. Fall 2020 was the goal date. But who knows anything at this point because of the fluidity of COVID-19 and college football.

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Does Zambrano transition to safety at his size?

Not sure. I thought the same thing though. Getting Jeffrey Manning and Chacho Ulloa as transfers bolstered the position and the hope is that they will be fighting for starting spots with Ty Okada. But I know they still really like Ty in the slot against certain opponents so Kane still definitely wants three safeties who can start and/or be on the field at the same time like last year. They still have Luke May in the mix as a veteran presence/special team ace, James Campbell has moved over from WR, and they really like what they've seen in Rylan Ortt's development. The rest of the safety room gets rounded out by Rfr. John Knight (who transitioned over from QB), Fr. Connor Ryan, and Fr. Jake D'Agistino (who I think will eventually become an OLB).

The starting corners are Tyrel Thomas and Greg Filer but Zambrano may be the third guy on the depth chart. Might be needed more on the outside too.

Where is Level Price Jr. on the depth chart? I saw him playing quite a bit last season.

Here is how I rank the corners on the roster:

1.) Tyrel Thomas (Senior)
2.) Greg Filer III (Senior)
3.) Eric Zambrano (Sophomore)
4.) Level Price Jr. (Sophomore)
5.) Tyler Bohannon (Redshirt Freshman)
6.) Kendric Bailey (Sophomore)
7.) Max Lenzy (Greyshirt Freshman)
8.) Miles Jackson (True Freshman)
9.) Devin Davis (True Freshman)

Throw in the fact Ty Okada will play a bunch of nickel and we have a solid 5. As usual with corners in the Big Sky, young corners are going to get an opportunity to contribute early.

I take it this is the fall roster. I notice a lot of people missing.

Good list Vim. It’s got some shaking out to do, but here’s how safety looks to me:
1. Manning
2. Okada
3. Ulloa
4. Campbell
5. May
6. Knight
7. Ryan, Ortt, D’Agostino

Some sleepers in there. I really love watching Campbell on special teams. Perhaps the most interesting group this year.

Who do you see missing?

T. Campbell, Lenzy, Renning, Parker and Cole.

Unsure on Tommy Campbell (freshman from Columbus). Two true freshman coming off senior year injuries were Max Lenzy and Jaelen Renning so they are likely grey shirting (won't be on the roster until next spring). I'm you are referring to Naquen Parker? He's #10 on the current roster. Jalen Cole likely won't be able to play again if he didn't make it back for this year. The goal last fall was for him to rest and see how he rehabbed with his neck. Fall 2020 was the goal date. But who knows anything at this point because of the fluidity of COVID-19 and college football.

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Krone and Sessions no longer on the roster.