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Bobcat football
Posted: Mon Jul 20, 2020 8:31 am
by mslacatfan
Let’s talk about bobcat football... something... anything?... if I have to read one more thread or post about people’s political and/or covid viewpoints, I’m gonna lose it. Ha
Just some ideas for discussion topics:
-TA
-defense
-offense
-how many yards will a healthy ifanse have?
-breakout players on offense and D.
-new coaches
-old games
-hell, I would be happy to start up another Garrett Marino discussion at this point, ha.
Re: Bobcat football
Posted: Mon Jul 20, 2020 9:00 am
by coloradocat
You're the stat collector. How many yards do you think Ifanse will have the next time he plays 10+ games in a season?
Re: Bobcat football
Posted: Mon Jul 20, 2020 9:01 am
by Cat Grad
Fine!
Best quarterback. Ever. Paul Dennehy
Best running back. Don Haas
Best tight end. Joe Bignell
Best wide receiver. Sam McCullum
Best kicker. Jan Stenerud
Best Offensive Lineman. Ken Verlanic or Jon Bortchardt
Best defensive lineman. Bill Kollar
Best linebacker. Ron Ueland
Best secondary player. Ever. Ron Muri
Most critical play in Cat-Griz by most famous Cat player? Terry Brown in 68.
Best coach. Ever. Sonny Holland
Best offensive coordinator. Ever. Don Christensen
Re: Bobcat football
Posted: Mon Jul 20, 2020 10:33 am
by catatac
mslacatfan wrote: ↑Mon Jul 20, 2020 8:31 am
Let’s talk about bobcat football... something... anything?... if I have to read one more thread or post about people’s political and/or covid viewpoints, I’m gonna lose it. Ha
Just some ideas for discussion topics:
-TA
-defense
-offense
-how many yards will a healthy ifanse have?
-breakout players on offense and D.
-new coaches
-old games
-hell, I would be happy to start up another Garrett Marino discussion at this point, ha.
Speaking of TA. Hypothetically let's say the flat out cancel the season. We already knew he wasn't playing at all (most likely) in 2020. Looking at 2021, let's say he's still healing up and getting to 100%... and we reserve him for just four games, likely Cat Griz and maybe playoffs, and he comes back and plays his entire Sr. season in 2022. Is that doable?
Re: Bobcat football
Posted: Mon Jul 20, 2020 10:48 am
by BigBruceBaker
If the NCAA ends up cancelling the season or all the conferences cancel, will that provide an additional year of eligibility for the student athletes?
Re: Bobcat football
Posted: Mon Jul 20, 2020 10:52 am
by wbtfg
BigBruceBaker wrote: ↑Mon Jul 20, 2020 10:48 am
If the NCAA ends up cancelling the season or all the conferences cancel, will that provide an additional year of eligibility for the student athletes?
I've been wondering the same thing. They did for the spring sports. It sure seems like there would be a glut of athletes and scholarships with no one leaving and another recruiting class coming in. It will definitely be interesting to see how it all plays out.
Re: Bobcat football
Posted: Mon Jul 20, 2020 11:02 am
by BleedingBLue
catatac wrote: ↑Mon Jul 20, 2020 10:33 am
mslacatfan wrote: ↑Mon Jul 20, 2020 8:31 am
Let’s talk about bobcat football... something... anything?... if I have to read one more thread or post about people’s political and/or covid viewpoints, I’m gonna lose it. Ha
Just some ideas for discussion topics:
-TA
-defense
-offense
-how many yards will a healthy ifanse have?
-breakout players on offense and D.
-new coaches
-old games
-hell, I would be happy to start up another Garrett Marino discussion at this point, ha.
Speaking of TA. Hypothetically let's say the flat out cancel the season. We already knew he wasn't playing at all (most likely) in 2020. Looking at 2021, let's say he's still healing up and getting to 100%... and we reserve him for just four games, likely Cat Griz and maybe playoffs, and he comes back and plays his entire Sr. season in 2022. Is that doable?
I say hell no. He is going to play in the NFL. No way he or Choate play him only 4 games to have him come back again. 2021 will be his last season as a Bobcat regardless of what happens this season.
Re: Bobcat football
Posted: Mon Jul 20, 2020 11:06 am
by Montanabob
BigBruceBaker wrote: ↑Mon Jul 20, 2020 10:48 am
If the NCAA ends up cancelling the season or all the conferences cancel, will that provide an additional year of eligibility for the student athletes?
What about all the graduate transfers!?!?!?!
Re: Bobcat football
Posted: Mon Jul 20, 2020 11:18 am
by coloradocat
BleedingBLue wrote: ↑Mon Jul 20, 2020 11:02 am
catatac wrote: ↑Mon Jul 20, 2020 10:33 am
mslacatfan wrote: ↑Mon Jul 20, 2020 8:31 am
Let’s talk about bobcat football... something... anything?... if I have to read one more thread or post about people’s political and/or covid viewpoints, I’m gonna lose it. Ha
Just some ideas for discussion topics:
-TA
-defense
-offense
-how many yards will a healthy ifanse have?
-breakout players on offense and D.
-new coaches
-old games
-hell, I would be happy to start up another Garrett Marino discussion at this point, ha.
Speaking of TA. Hypothetically let's say the flat out cancel the season. We already knew he wasn't playing at all (most likely) in 2020. Looking at 2021, let's say he's still healing up and getting to 100%... and we reserve him for just four games, likely Cat Griz and maybe playoffs, and he comes back and plays his entire Sr. season in 2022. Is that doable?
I say hell no. He is going to play in the NFL. No way he or Choate play him only 4 games to have him come back again. 2021 will be his last season as a Bobcat regardless of what happens this season.
I think his chances of getting drafted or getting a roster spot as an UDFA increase if he stays at MSU through the 2022 season but I doubt he stays that long. He probably needs more than one full season as a LB to get a real shot in the NFL just based on the current scouting environment. I could see the Pats picking him up to play fullback though.
Re: Bobcat football
Posted: Mon Jul 20, 2020 11:42 am
by BleedingBLue
coloradocat wrote: ↑Mon Jul 20, 2020 11:18 am
BleedingBLue wrote: ↑Mon Jul 20, 2020 11:02 am
catatac wrote: ↑Mon Jul 20, 2020 10:33 am
mslacatfan wrote: ↑Mon Jul 20, 2020 8:31 am
Let’s talk about bobcat football... something... anything?... if I have to read one more thread or post about people’s political and/or covid viewpoints, I’m gonna lose it. Ha
Just some ideas for discussion topics:
-TA
-defense
-offense
-how many yards will a healthy ifanse have?
-breakout players on offense and D.
-new coaches
-old games
-hell, I would be happy to start up another Garrett Marino discussion at this point, ha.
Speaking of TA. Hypothetically let's say the flat out cancel the season. We already knew he wasn't playing at all (most likely) in 2020. Looking at 2021, let's say he's still healing up and getting to 100%... and we reserve him for just four games, likely Cat Griz and maybe playoffs, and he comes back and plays his entire Sr. season in 2022. Is that doable?
I say hell no. He is going to play in the NFL. No way he or Choate play him only 4 games to have him come back again. 2021 will be his last season as a Bobcat regardless of what happens this season.
I think his chances of getting drafted or getting a roster spot as an UDFA increase if he stays at MSU through the 2022 season but I doubt he stays that long. He probably needs more than one full season as a LB to get a real shot in the NFL just based on the current scouting environment. I could see the Pats picking him up to play fullback though.
If Taysom Hill got drafted, TA will get drafted. Hill was a mediocre QB with amazing athleticism. TA can literally play anywhere on the field other than OL and maybe DT and play it very well. His speed alone will have teams wanting him for any position.
Re: Bobcat football
Posted: Mon Jul 20, 2020 11:44 am
by mslacatfan
coloradocat wrote: ↑Mon Jul 20, 2020 9:00 am
You're the stat collector. How many yards do you think Ifanse will have the next time he plays 10+ games in a season?
I forget which interview it was, but choate more or less said the following toward the end of last season (when ifanse was killin it in the playoffs)- had Ifanse been healthy all year, with the OL that was in place, he would have had one the best seasons of any RB in the history of the big sky.
Re: Bobcat football
Posted: Mon Jul 20, 2020 12:17 pm
by coloradocat
BleedingBLue wrote: ↑Mon Jul 20, 2020 11:42 am
coloradocat wrote: ↑Mon Jul 20, 2020 11:18 am
BleedingBLue wrote: ↑Mon Jul 20, 2020 11:02 am
catatac wrote: ↑Mon Jul 20, 2020 10:33 am
mslacatfan wrote: ↑Mon Jul 20, 2020 8:31 am
Let’s talk about bobcat football... something... anything?... if I have to read one more thread or post about people’s political and/or covid viewpoints, I’m gonna lose it. Ha
Just some ideas for discussion topics:
-TA
-defense
-offense
-how many yards will a healthy ifanse have?
-breakout players on offense and D.
-new coaches
-old games
-hell, I would be happy to start up another Garrett Marino discussion at this point, ha.
Speaking of TA. Hypothetically let's say the flat out cancel the season. We already knew he wasn't playing at all (most likely) in 2020. Looking at 2021, let's say he's still healing up and getting to 100%... and we reserve him for just four games, likely Cat Griz and maybe playoffs, and he comes back and plays his entire Sr. season in 2022. Is that doable?
I say hell no. He is going to play in the NFL. No way he or Choate play him only 4 games to have him come back again. 2021 will be his last season as a Bobcat regardless of what happens this season.
I think his chances of getting drafted or getting a roster spot as an UDFA increase if he stays at MSU through the 2022 season but I doubt he stays that long. He probably needs more than one full season as a LB to get a real shot in the NFL just based on the current scouting environment. I could see the Pats picking him up to play fullback though.
If Taysom Hill got drafted, TA will get drafted. Hill was a mediocre QB with amazing athleticism. TA can literally play anywhere on the field other than OL and maybe DT and play it very well. His speed alone will have teams wanting him for any position.
I think TA is better than TH at any position but Hill went to BYU and had some high profile TV games. Exposure is the biggest hurdle for Troy which is why I think he needs to have a huge (healthy) year when he comes back and be so dominant that his talent overcomes that. If he's dead set on playing LB then we need to limit him to 5 offensive plays per game so that he can put all his focus on defense. The further away from COVID Troy's last year is the better as more scouts will be at actual games and get a chance to see him.
Re: Bobcat football
Posted: Mon Jul 20, 2020 2:03 pm
by Cledus
If Ifanse had a healthy season, I could see him surpassing 1500 yards before the playoffs. Problem is, he runs so hard I can't see him getting through a season without injury.
Re: Bobcat football
Posted: Tue Jul 21, 2020 12:40 pm
by catgrad05
Here’s a question
Does anyone think that we would get to a point where we would get a four or five star recruit directly out of high school?
Choate says it’s his job to recruit over the guys on the team.......we have some really really good, developing players that continue to improve. As the depth grows would a 4 star or higher recruit be the only freshman that would see the field?
Re: Bobcat football
Posted: Tue Jul 21, 2020 12:52 pm
by coloradocat
catgrad05 wrote: ↑Tue Jul 21, 2020 12:40 pm
Here’s a question
Does anyone think that we would get to a point where we would get a four or five star recruit directly out of high school?
Choate says it’s his job to recruit over the guys on the team.......we have some really really good, developing players that continue to improve. As the depth grows would a 4 star or higher recruit be the only freshman that would see the field?
I think we could land a 4* if we keep making the semifinals and moving on to the championship game a couple times (and also stop getting blown out by NDSU). We're not getting a 5* at the FCS level until we reach NDSU-level dominance and even then it's unlikely.
Freshmen will always see the field with the 4 game redshirt rule but I could see us getting to the point where every freshman redshirts.
Re: Bobcat football
Posted: Tue Jul 21, 2020 5:16 pm
by catgrad05
coloradocat wrote: ↑Tue Jul 21, 2020 12:52 pm
catgrad05 wrote: ↑Tue Jul 21, 2020 12:40 pm
Here’s a question
Does anyone think that we would get to a point where we would get a four or five star recruit directly out of high school?
Choate says it’s his job to recruit over the guys on the team.......we have some really really good, developing players that continue to improve. As the depth grows would a 4 star or higher recruit be the only freshman that would see the field?
I think we could land a 4* if we keep making the semifinals and moving on to the championship game a couple times (and also stop getting blown out by NDSU). We're not getting a 5* at the FCS level until we reach NDSU-level dominance and even then it's unlikely.
Freshmen will always see the field with the 4 game redshirt rule but I could see us getting to the point where every freshman redshirts.
Good point on the playing 4 games. I believe Princeton got a 4 or 5 star QB a couple seasons back
Re: Bobcat football
Posted: Wed Jul 22, 2020 9:47 am
by BleedingBLue
Don't know if anyone else saw this but David Pollock from ESPN said he likes the idea of moving the FCS permanently to the spring so there is football year round. Possibly the dumbest thing I've heard about football, ever.
Re: Bobcat football
Posted: Wed Jul 22, 2020 9:57 am
by coloradocat
BleedingBLue wrote: ↑Wed Jul 22, 2020 9:47 am
Don't know if anyone else saw this but David Pollock from ESPN said he likes the idea of moving the FCS permanently to the spring so there is football year round. Possibly the dumbest thing I've heard about football, ever.
Sounds like a great way to make sure no more FCS players take NFL jobs from FBS players. Leave it to a former power 5 player and ESPN personality to bring this up.
Re: Bobcat football
Posted: Wed Jul 22, 2020 10:06 am
by BleedingBLue
coloradocat wrote: ↑Wed Jul 22, 2020 9:57 am
BleedingBLue wrote: ↑Wed Jul 22, 2020 9:47 am
Don't know if anyone else saw this but David Pollock from ESPN said he likes the idea of moving the FCS permanently to the spring so there is football year round. Possibly the dumbest thing I've heard about football, ever.
Sounds like a great way to make sure no more FCS players take NFL jobs from FBS players. Leave it to a former power 5 player and ESPN personality to bring this up.
Ha I knew you would respond
I agree though. I have no idea what he's thinking.
Re: Bobcat football
Posted: Wed Jul 22, 2020 10:12 am
by coloradocat
BleedingBLue wrote: ↑Wed Jul 22, 2020 10:06 am
coloradocat wrote: ↑Wed Jul 22, 2020 9:57 am
BleedingBLue wrote: ↑Wed Jul 22, 2020 9:47 am
Don't know if anyone else saw this but David Pollock from ESPN said he likes the idea of moving the FCS permanently to the spring so there is football year round. Possibly the dumbest thing I've heard about football, ever.
Sounds like a great way to make sure no more FCS players take NFL jobs from FBS players. Leave it to a former power 5 player and ESPN personality to bring this up.
Ha I knew you would respond
I agree though. I have no idea what he's thinking.
This is my hill to die on!