Covid hits MSU athletes
Posted: Fri Jun 26, 2020 9:43 pm
Don't be such a Debbie Downer. There will be a season.
I think it's pretty clear that a significant number of asymptomatic or mild cases of COVID-19 will be found as large groups of low-risk people like college and pro athletes are tested. Hopefully, some of this data can be used to determine just how many cases are out there that haven't been diagnosed due to a lack of symptoms or mild symptoms not requiring medical care. The key is to identify and isolate those cases so they don't spread to higher-risk portions of the MSU community who aren't elite athletes in the lowest-risk age group. If a few football players test positive here and there, they can deal with that. But if the virus spreads and there ends up being a widespread outbreak on the MSU campus, there's no way they'll be playing sports this fall.BleedingBLue wrote: ↑Sat Jun 27, 2020 7:50 amMultiple athletes from all sports will test positive for this thing at MSU. It's inevitable and expected. MSU no doubt has planned for this and unless it gets out of control it won't stop the season.
Where do you get this nonsense? The official CDC numbers say that over 5% diagnosed will die. Experts agree that it is much likely lower but it's not certain at all. Even if it's 99% survivable that is still 10X worse than the seasonal flu. Credible experts disagree about the lethality and have been wrong about this at every turn. This virus is new and nobody knows the end game here. Covid19 has the potential to be the worst pandemic in American history.wapiti wrote: ↑Sat Jun 27, 2020 7:43 amDon't be such a Debbie Downer. There will be a season.
Covid-19 has over a 99% recovery rate. It's about the same as the common flu.
The CDC put out a paper in May that estimated the death rate from symptomatic cases to be between 0.2% and 1%, with their "best guess" at 0.4%. There are other experts out there who think their best guess is too low and that the true death rate is in the higher end of the CDC's range of estimates, but it's probably not wrong to say that COVID-19 is over 99% survivable for a randomly selected person with no regard to age or other health conditions.seataccat wrote: ↑Sat Jun 27, 2020 9:50 amWhere do you get this nonsense? The official CDC numbers say that over 5% diagnosed will die. Experts agree that it is much likely lower but it's not certain at all. Even if it's 99% survivable that is still 10X worse than the seasonal flu. Credible experts disagree about the lethality and have been wrong about this at every turn. This virus is new and nobody knows the end game here. Covid19 has the potential to be the worst pandemic in American history.wapiti wrote: ↑Sat Jun 27, 2020 7:43 amDon't be such a Debbie Downer. There will be a season.
Covid-19 has over a 99% recovery rate. It's about the same as the common flu.
That would require nearly 700k deaths, then. Sorry, don't see that happening. Have you seen the numbers? I'm no statistician, but this is a very strong downward trend:seataccat wrote: ↑Sat Jun 27, 2020 9:50 amWhere do you get this nonsense? The official CDC numbers say that over 5% diagnosed will die. Experts agree that it is much likely lower but it's not certain at all. Even if it's 99% survivable that is still 10X worse than the seasonal flu. Credible experts disagree about the lethality and have been wrong about this at every turn. This virus is new and nobody knows the end game here. Covid19 has the potential to be the worst pandemic in American history.wapiti wrote: ↑Sat Jun 27, 2020 7:43 amDon't be such a Debbie Downer. There will be a season.
Covid-19 has over a 99% recovery rate. It's about the same as the common flu.
Yea hyperbolic my asscheeks. The spanish flu killed 600,000 in two years during a war. That is ~25,000/month. This virus has killed 125,000 in four months, that is certainly on pace to rival the spanish flu ~31,000/month. The spanish flu went through several peaks and valleys in the two years it was active.grizzh8r wrote: ↑Sat Jun 27, 2020 1:52 pmThat would require nearly 700k deaths, then. Sorry, don't see that happening. Have you seen the numbers? I'm no statistician, but this is a very strong downward trend:seataccat wrote: ↑Sat Jun 27, 2020 9:50 amWhere do you get this nonsense? The official CDC numbers say that over 5% diagnosed will die. Experts agree that it is much likely lower but it's not certain at all. Even if it's 99% survivable that is still 10X worse than the seasonal flu. Credible experts disagree about the lethality and have been wrong about this at every turn. This virus is new and nobody knows the end game here. Covid19 has the potential to be the worst pandemic in American history.wapiti wrote: ↑Sat Jun 27, 2020 7:43 amDon't be such a Debbie Downer. There will be a season.
Covid-19 has over a 99% recovery rate. It's about the same as the common flu.
https://www.google.com/search?q=us+covid+deaths
It would take another half million to come even close to the Spanish flu estimate for the US. It's hyperbolic statements like this that only serve to feed the hype machine and fear mongers. Stop it!
The US population in 1918 was less than one-third of what it is today. That changes your comparison significantly.seataccat wrote: ↑Sat Jun 27, 2020 3:25 pmYea hyperbolic my asscheeks. The spanish flu killed 600,000 in two years during a war. That is ~25,000/month. This virus has killed 125,000 in four months, that is certainly on pace to rival the spanish flu ~31,000/month. The spanish flu went through several peaks and valleys in the two years it was active.grizzh8r wrote: ↑Sat Jun 27, 2020 1:52 pmThat would require nearly 700k deaths, then. Sorry, don't see that happening. Have you seen the numbers? I'm no statistician, but this is a very strong downward trend:seataccat wrote: ↑Sat Jun 27, 2020 9:50 amWhere do you get this nonsense? The official CDC numbers say that over 5% diagnosed will die. Experts agree that it is much likely lower but it's not certain at all. Even if it's 99% survivable that is still 10X worse than the seasonal flu. Credible experts disagree about the lethality and have been wrong about this at every turn. This virus is new and nobody knows the end game here. Covid19 has the potential to be the worst pandemic in American history.wapiti wrote: ↑Sat Jun 27, 2020 7:43 amDon't be such a Debbie Downer. There will be a season.
Covid-19 has over a 99% recovery rate. It's about the same as the common flu.
https://www.google.com/search?q=us+covid+deaths
It would take another half million to come even close to the Spanish flu estimate for the US. It's hyperbolic statements like this that only serve to feed the hype machine and fear mongers. Stop it!
So what? The point is that we are on pace to have more people dead from this than the spanish flu. I guess we'll put an asterisk by the statistics in the history books to make you feel better.Cataholic wrote: ↑Sat Jun 27, 2020 3:54 pmThe US population in 1918 was less than one-third of what it is today. That changes your comparison significantly.seataccat wrote: ↑Sat Jun 27, 2020 3:25 pmYea hyperbolic my asscheeks. The spanish flu killed 600,000 in two years during a war. That is ~25,000/month. This virus has killed 125,000 in four months, that is certainly on pace to rival the spanish flu ~31,000/month. The spanish flu went through several peaks and valleys in the two years it was active.grizzh8r wrote: ↑Sat Jun 27, 2020 1:52 pmThat would require nearly 700k deaths, then. Sorry, don't see that happening. Have you seen the numbers? I'm no statistician, but this is a very strong downward trend:seataccat wrote: ↑Sat Jun 27, 2020 9:50 amWhere do you get this nonsense? The official CDC numbers say that over 5% diagnosed will die. Experts agree that it is much likely lower but it's not certain at all. Even if it's 99% survivable that is still 10X worse than the seasonal flu. Credible experts disagree about the lethality and have been wrong about this at every turn. This virus is new and nobody knows the end game here. Covid19 has the potential to be the worst pandemic in American history.wapiti wrote: ↑Sat Jun 27, 2020 7:43 amDon't be such a Debbie Downer. There will be a season.
Covid-19 has over a 99% recovery rate. It's about the same as the common flu.
https://www.google.com/search?q=us+covid+deaths
It would take another half million to come even close to the Spanish flu estimate for the US. It's hyperbolic statements like this that only serve to feed the hype machine and fear mongers. Stop it!
Any rational person would realize that percentage of population is a more accurate statistic for what you want to compare here.seataccat wrote: ↑Sat Jun 27, 2020 4:24 pmSo what? The point is that we are on pace to have more people dead from this than the spanish flu. I guess we'll put an asterisk by the statistics in the history books to make you feel better.Cataholic wrote: ↑Sat Jun 27, 2020 3:54 pmThe US population in 1918 was less than one-third of what it is today. That changes your comparison significantly.seataccat wrote: ↑Sat Jun 27, 2020 3:25 pmYea hyperbolic my asscheeks. The spanish flu killed 600,000 in two years during a war. That is ~25,000/month. This virus has killed 125,000 in four months, that is certainly on pace to rival the spanish flu ~31,000/month. The spanish flu went through several peaks and valleys in the two years it was active.grizzh8r wrote: ↑Sat Jun 27, 2020 1:52 pmThat would require nearly 700k deaths, then. Sorry, don't see that happening. Have you seen the numbers? I'm no statistician, but this is a very strong downward trend:seataccat wrote: ↑Sat Jun 27, 2020 9:50 amWhere do you get this nonsense? The official CDC numbers say that over 5% diagnosed will die. Experts agree that it is much likely lower but it's not certain at all. Even if it's 99% survivable that is still 10X worse than the seasonal flu. Credible experts disagree about the lethality and have been wrong about this at every turn. This virus is new and nobody knows the end game here. Covid19 has the potential to be the worst pandemic in American history.wapiti wrote: ↑Sat Jun 27, 2020 7:43 amDon't be such a Debbie Downer. There will be a season.
Covid-19 has over a 99% recovery rate. It's about the same as the common flu.
https://www.google.com/search?q=us+covid+deaths
It would take another half million to come even close to the Spanish flu estimate for the US. It's hyperbolic statements like this that only serve to feed the hype machine and fear mongers. Stop it!
https://www.bozemandailychronicle.com/c ... um=twitterGallatin County health officials said they’re seeing coronavirus transmission stemming from crowded settings like parties, bars and restaurants
Do I really have to explain? 25,000 per 100 million is much different than 31,000 per 360 million.seataccat wrote: ↑Sat Jun 27, 2020 4:24 pmSo what? The point is that we are on pace to have more people dead from this than the spanish flu. I guess we'll put an asterisk by the statistics in the history books to make you feel better.Cataholic wrote: ↑Sat Jun 27, 2020 3:54 pmThe US population in 1918 was less than one-third of what it is today. That changes your comparison significantly.seataccat wrote: ↑Sat Jun 27, 2020 3:25 pmYea hyperbolic my asscheeks. The spanish flu killed 600,000 in two years during a war. That is ~25,000/month. This virus has killed 125,000 in four months, that is certainly on pace to rival the spanish flu ~31,000/month. The spanish flu went through several peaks and valleys in the two years it was active.grizzh8r wrote: ↑Sat Jun 27, 2020 1:52 pmThat would require nearly 700k deaths, then. Sorry, don't see that happening. Have you seen the numbers? I'm no statistician, but this is a very strong downward trend:seataccat wrote: ↑Sat Jun 27, 2020 9:50 amWhere do you get this nonsense? The official CDC numbers say that over 5% diagnosed will die. Experts agree that it is much likely lower but it's not certain at all. Even if it's 99% survivable that is still 10X worse than the seasonal flu. Credible experts disagree about the lethality and have been wrong about this at every turn. This virus is new and nobody knows the end game here. Covid19 has the potential to be the worst pandemic in American history.wapiti wrote: ↑Sat Jun 27, 2020 7:43 amDon't be such a Debbie Downer. There will be a season.
Covid-19 has over a 99% recovery rate. It's about the same as the common flu.
https://www.google.com/search?q=us+covid+deaths
It would take another half million to come even close to the Spanish flu estimate for the US. It's hyperbolic statements like this that only serve to feed the hype machine and fear mongers. Stop it!