The virus doesn’t know what people “need” and don’t need. It’s not like people NEED to get food so they run to Walmart and the virus just trickles.....iaafan wrote: ↑Thu May 21, 2020 2:01 pmIt isn't that it's perfectly safe to go to Walmart, Costco, any grocery store. It's that people need to go there to get food and drink. People don't need to go to a bar or restaurant to get food or drink.ilovethecats wrote: ↑Thu May 21, 2020 1:08 pmObviously I agree with everything you said. If those are my only two options, no other choices, either a season with fans but it ends shorty because of the virus....or a full season with no fans and no illnesses, I doubt you'd find a single person that wouldn't take the latter.iaafan wrote: ↑Thu May 21, 2020 11:27 amYes, but that doesn't do much on the revenue side. People actually need to go to the games, not to mention bars, restaurants, etc. They can only allow 50% in, which would be about 10,000 OR they can allow 100% in, but if that's only 10,000, then nothing was gained. So I'm not going to be all that excited about hearing everyone can get in. I'll be excited when I see a sold out facility. I won't be excited if a sold out facility just ends up in a spike in covid and the end of the season.ilovethecats wrote: ↑Thu May 21, 2020 11:09 amExactly what I'd like to see! Imagine that? Letting people decide where to go based on their concern for groups and the virus in general. It just may work!!!
I'm doing what I think the players ultimately want:
#1 they want to have a full season with playoffs and if that means no one's at the games, so be it.
#2 they want that and to have the atmosphere be the same as always.
If these were reversed, I'd feel pretty selfish and guilty about my zeal to be at a game ruining it for the players. Do they want fans at the games? Of course. Do they want the result of having fans at games ruining their season? No way.
So if a full season with playoffs means no fans, then that's OK by me. I'd rather do that, than have everyone at the first game, then enough people get covid at a game (and even if it isn't a game in Bozeman it's over; could be UM, Tech, CC, etc.) and that's the end of it. Yay! we had fun at two home games! Now he season's over! Woo-hoo!
Sorry, but I don't share your degree of optimism about freedom of choice. I'll take the sure route to a full season of football games even if that means I don't get to go. I'll go along with what the players want.
My take is if they decide to play out the season then they deem it is safe for everyone to do so. If they allow fans I have to assume the same thing, that they did their homework and deem it not only safe, but financially prudent. If not, I can't see a point having fans if they are in danger and it does no good monetarily.
But like I said, I totally agree in regards to fans in the stands, bars, restaurants, etc. The 50% thing is a killer for a ton of businesses. I've been banging this drum for two months. People determining that the thousands of people in and out of Walmart and Costco every day is perfectly safe, but people in local businesses and restaurants is too dangerous couldn't be more asinine. They need customers. Football needs fans. Whether or not we get this remains to be seen.
If it was that dire, and people needed to be locked down, they world find a way to get food to them. There was no chance that was ever going to happen........