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Re: NEW OC NAMES?

Post by Bozcat003 » Thu Jan 30, 2020 8:03 am

wbtfg wrote:
Thu Jan 30, 2020 7:48 am
BDizzle wrote:
Thu Jan 30, 2020 7:45 am
wbtfg wrote:
Thu Jan 30, 2020 7:25 am
BDizzle wrote:
Thu Jan 30, 2020 7:03 am
I don’t see it mentioned anywhere but Jimmy Beal is your new RBs coach. Played at MSU back in the day. Then was RBs coach at NAU and most recently at SDSU. One of the brightest minds in the game. Cats are lucky to have him back as a coach.
Wow. That’s a big pickup. He was at SDSU this past season, right?
My message literally says he was at SDSU. Haha
Being an MSU grad, I only read the first sentence. Haha.

I assume he’ll be picking up a coordinator position as well. I’d guess either special teams or recruiting coordinator.
Our Special Teams Coordinator position is taken with BJ Robertson, could see him take the recruiting coordinator spot though.

The offensive coordinator position intrigues me. Haven’t heard anything, and not sure I want Dennis Erickson. Maybe we convince McEndoo to take the pay cut and come back as OC / HC in waiting - him and his son a package deal :D :D



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Re: NEW OC NAMES?

Post by iaafan » Thu Jan 30, 2020 8:05 am

Bozcat003 wrote:
Thu Jan 30, 2020 8:03 am
wbtfg wrote:
Thu Jan 30, 2020 7:48 am
BDizzle wrote:
Thu Jan 30, 2020 7:45 am
wbtfg wrote:
Thu Jan 30, 2020 7:25 am
BDizzle wrote:
Thu Jan 30, 2020 7:03 am
I don’t see it mentioned anywhere but Jimmy Beal is your new RBs coach. Played at MSU back in the day. Then was RBs coach at NAU and most recently at SDSU. One of the brightest minds in the game. Cats are lucky to have him back as a coach.
Wow. That’s a big pickup. He was at SDSU this past season, right?
My message literally says he was at SDSU. Haha
Being an MSU grad, I only read the first sentence. Haha.

I assume he’ll be picking up a coordinator position as well. I’d guess either special teams or recruiting coordinator.
Our Special Teams Coordinator position is taken with BJ Robertson, could see him take the recruiting coordinator spot though.

The offensive coordinator position intrigues me. Haven’t heard anything, and not sure I want Dennis Erickson. Maybe we convince McEndoo to take the pay cut and come back as OC / HC in waiting - him and his son a package deal :D :D
Why aren’t you sure you want Erickson?



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Re: NEW OC NAMES?

Post by Bozcat003 » Thu Jan 30, 2020 8:18 am

iaafan wrote:
Thu Jan 30, 2020 8:05 am
Bozcat003 wrote:
Thu Jan 30, 2020 8:03 am
wbtfg wrote:
Thu Jan 30, 2020 7:48 am
BDizzle wrote:
Thu Jan 30, 2020 7:45 am
wbtfg wrote:
Thu Jan 30, 2020 7:25 am
BDizzle wrote:
Thu Jan 30, 2020 7:03 am
I don’t see it mentioned anywhere but Jimmy Beal is your new RBs coach. Played at MSU back in the day. Then was RBs coach at NAU and most recently at SDSU. One of the brightest minds in the game. Cats are lucky to have him back as a coach.
Wow. That’s a big pickup. He was at SDSU this past season, right?
My message literally says he was at SDSU. Haha
Being an MSU grad, I only read the first sentence. Haha.

I assume he’ll be picking up a coordinator position as well. I’d guess either special teams or recruiting coordinator.
Our Special Teams Coordinator position is taken with BJ Robertson, could see him take the recruiting coordinator spot though.

The offensive coordinator position intrigues me. Haven’t heard anything, and not sure I want Dennis Erickson. Maybe we convince McEndoo to take the pay cut and come back as OC / HC in waiting - him and his son a package deal :D :D
Why aren’t you sure you want Erickson?
No real reason, I think he has a great football mind (I mean he’s proved that there is no question) and I think he’d do a good job. I just see him as more of a “band-aid” for a year or 2. I’d be more excited about a McEndoo or some guy we poach from a fellow FCS program.

Don’t get me wrong, if we ended up with him I’ll be happy and can’t wait to see what he continues to add to our program - especially the qb’s



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Re: NEW OC NAMES?

Post by iaafan » Thu Jan 30, 2020 8:39 am

Bozcat003 wrote:
Thu Jan 30, 2020 8:18 am
iaafan wrote:
Thu Jan 30, 2020 8:05 am
Bozcat003 wrote:
Thu Jan 30, 2020 8:03 am
wbtfg wrote:
Thu Jan 30, 2020 7:48 am
BDizzle wrote:
Thu Jan 30, 2020 7:45 am
wbtfg wrote:
Thu Jan 30, 2020 7:25 am
BDizzle wrote:
Thu Jan 30, 2020 7:03 am
I don’t see it mentioned anywhere but Jimmy Beal is your new RBs coach. Played at MSU back in the day. Then was RBs coach at NAU and most recently at SDSU. One of the brightest minds in the game. Cats are lucky to have him back as a coach.
Wow. That’s a big pickup. He was at SDSU this past season, right?
My message literally says he was at SDSU. Haha
Being an MSU grad, I only read the first sentence. Haha.

I assume he’ll be picking up a coordinator position as well. I’d guess either special teams or recruiting coordinator.
Our Special Teams Coordinator position is taken with BJ Robertson, could see him take the recruiting coordinator spot though.

The offensive coordinator position intrigues me. Haven’t heard anything, and not sure I want Dennis Erickson. Maybe we convince McEndoo to take the pay cut and come back as OC / HC in waiting - him and his son a package deal :D :D
Why aren’t you sure you want Erickson?
No real reason, I think he has a great football mind (I mean he’s proved that there is no question) and I think he’d do a good job. I just see him as more of a “band-aid” for a year or 2. I’d be more excited about a McEndoo or some guy we poach from a fellow FCS program.

Don’t get me wrong, if we ended up with him I’ll be happy and can’t wait to see what he continues to add to our program - especially the qb’s
Considering almost all the OCs are gone in a year, I think he’s a great choice if you’re looking for someone to stick around.



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Re: NEW OC NAMES?

Post by CelticCat » Thu Jan 30, 2020 10:15 am

bobcat99 wrote:
Thu Jan 30, 2020 8:01 am
BDizzle wrote:
Thu Jan 30, 2020 7:45 am
wbtfg wrote:
Thu Jan 30, 2020 7:25 am
BDizzle wrote:
Thu Jan 30, 2020 7:03 am
I don’t see it mentioned anywhere but Jimmy Beal is your new RBs coach. Played at MSU back in the day. Then was RBs coach at NAU and most recently at SDSU. One of the brightest minds in the game. Cats are lucky to have him back as a coach.
Wow. That’s a big pickup. He was at SDSU this past season, right?
My message literally says he was at SDSU. Haha
Reading is hard.
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Re: NEW OC NAMES?

Post by catgrad05 » Thu Jan 30, 2020 1:23 pm

iaafan wrote:
Thu Jan 30, 2020 8:39 am
Bozcat003 wrote:
Thu Jan 30, 2020 8:18 am
iaafan wrote:
Thu Jan 30, 2020 8:05 am
Bozcat003 wrote:
Thu Jan 30, 2020 8:03 am
wbtfg wrote:
Thu Jan 30, 2020 7:48 am
BDizzle wrote:
Thu Jan 30, 2020 7:45 am
wbtfg wrote:
Thu Jan 30, 2020 7:25 am
BDizzle wrote:
Thu Jan 30, 2020 7:03 am
I don’t see it mentioned anywhere but Jimmy Beal is your new RBs coach. Played at MSU back in the day. Then was RBs coach at NAU and most recently at SDSU. One of the brightest minds in the game. Cats are lucky to have him back as a coach.
Wow. That’s a big pickup. He was at SDSU this past season, right?
My message literally says he was at SDSU. Haha
Being an MSU grad, I only read the first sentence. Haha.

I assume he’ll be picking up a coordinator position as well. I’d guess either special teams or recruiting coordinator.
Our Special Teams Coordinator position is taken with BJ Robertson, could see him take the recruiting coordinator spot though.

The offensive coordinator position intrigues me. Haven’t heard anything, and not sure I want Dennis Erickson. Maybe we convince McEndoo to take the pay cut and come back as OC / HC in waiting - him and his son a package deal :D :D
Why aren’t you sure you want Erickson?
No real reason, I think he has a great football mind (I mean he’s proved that there is no question) and I think he’d do a good job. I just see him as more of a “band-aid” for a year or 2. I’d be more excited about a McEndoo or some guy we poach from a fellow FCS program.

Don’t get me wrong, if we ended up with him I’ll be happy and can’t wait to see what he continues to add to our program - especially the qb’s
Considering almost all the OCs are gone in a year, I think he’s a great choice if you’re looking for someone to stick around.

I’ve been wondering about this. Does anyone have a timeline on how long Choates OC’s have been in that position..........purely a guess but a year and a half (including playoff games) with Miller might be the longest tenure



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Re: NEW OC NAMES?

Post by imacat » Thu Jan 30, 2020 1:31 pm

I’ve been wondering about this. Does anyone have a timeline on how long Choates OC’s have been in that position..........purely a guess but a year and a half (including playoff games) with Miller might be the longest tenure

Messingham - 1 season
Armstrong - 1 1/2 seasons (roughly)
Miller - 1 1/2 seasons (roughly)



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Re: NEW OC NAMES?

Post by wbtfg » Thu Jan 30, 2020 2:01 pm

imacat wrote:
Thu Jan 30, 2020 1:31 pm
I’ve been wondering about this. Does anyone have a timeline on how long Choates OC’s have been in that position..........purely a guess but a year and a half (including playoff games) with Miller might be the longest tenure

Messingham - 1 season
Armstrong - 1 1/2 seasons (roughly)
Miller - 1 1/2 seasons (roughly)
Bob Cole as well



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Post by imacat » Thu Jan 30, 2020 2:41 pm

Bob Cole was QB coach and Passing Game Coordinator. Lasted 1/2 a season.



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Re: NEW OC NAMES?

Post by ilovethecats » Thu Jan 30, 2020 2:43 pm

I haven't heard anything. But I'm getting pretty excited about this hire. I think it will be a good one.



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Post by coloradocat » Fri Jan 31, 2020 10:05 am

So are we going to have to wait until Wednesday to find out who the new OC is?



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Re: NEW OC NAMES?

Post by CelticCat » Fri Jan 31, 2020 10:55 am

coloradocat wrote:
Fri Jan 31, 2020 10:05 am
So are we going to have to wait until Wednesday to find out who the new OC is?
I'm connecting the dots, I think it's Erickson. The fact that this is so quiet, Choate usually announces hires more quickly than this, and it's during a recruitment period so you'd think they'd want to have someone in place quickly for stability... I think maybe they hired Erickson pretty quickly without an interview process. Pure speculation.


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Re: NEW OC NAMES?

Post by kennethnoisewater » Fri Jan 31, 2020 11:39 am

CelticCat wrote:
Fri Jan 31, 2020 10:55 am
coloradocat wrote:
Fri Jan 31, 2020 10:05 am
So are we going to have to wait until Wednesday to find out who the new OC is?
I'm connecting the dots, I think it's Erickson. The fact that this is so quiet, Choate usually announces hires more quickly than this, and it's during a recruitment period so you'd think they'd want to have someone in place quickly for stability... I think maybe they hired Erickson pretty quickly without an interview process. Pure speculation.
That's kinda where I'm at too. I'm guessing they have to post the position and maybe go through some formalities since Dennis isn't on the staff (or am I mistaken?) and it wouldn't be an internal hire, technically. I also agree that he's not a long term fix, but what good OC would be? Great OC's always seem to move up quickly at every level of football, so I'm sure two years would be about the best we could expect out of somebody. If they're really good it's probably one year. DE could be very good and wouldn't be quick to jump at jobs that presented themselves, because he's a known quantity, and he knows what's available out there and has chosen to stay in Bozeman.


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Re: NEW OC NAMES?

Post by Montanabob » Fri Jan 31, 2020 12:01 pm

kennethnoisewater wrote:
Fri Jan 31, 2020 11:39 am
CelticCat wrote:
Fri Jan 31, 2020 10:55 am
coloradocat wrote:
Fri Jan 31, 2020 10:05 am
So are we going to have to wait until Wednesday to find out who the new OC is?
I'm connecting the dots, I think it's Erickson. The fact that this is so quiet, Choate usually announces hires more quickly than this, and it's during a recruitment period so you'd think they'd want to have someone in place quickly for stability... I think maybe they hired Erickson pretty quickly without an interview process. Pure speculation.
That's kinda where I'm at too. I'm guessing they have to post the position and maybe go through some formalities since Dennis isn't on the staff (or am I mistaken?) and it wouldn't be an internal hire, technically. I also agree that he's not a long term fix, but what good OC would be? Great OC's always seem to move up quickly at every level of football, so I'm sure two years would be about the best we could expect out of somebody. If they're really good it's probably one year. DE could be very good and wouldn't be quick to jump at jobs that presented themselves, because he's a known quantity, and he knows what's available out there and has chosen to stay in Bozeman.
Would have been a shorter time line than RB's coach who is already hired.


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Re: NEW OC NAMES?

Post by AFCAT » Fri Jan 31, 2020 12:13 pm

Montanabob wrote:
Fri Jan 31, 2020 12:01 pm
kennethnoisewater wrote:
Fri Jan 31, 2020 11:39 am
CelticCat wrote:
Fri Jan 31, 2020 10:55 am
coloradocat wrote:
Fri Jan 31, 2020 10:05 am
So are we going to have to wait until Wednesday to find out who the new OC is?
I'm connecting the dots, I think it's Erickson. The fact that this is so quiet, Choate usually announces hires more quickly than this, and it's during a recruitment period so you'd think they'd want to have someone in place quickly for stability... I think maybe they hired Erickson pretty quickly without an interview process. Pure speculation.
That's kinda where I'm at too. I'm guessing they have to post the position and maybe go through some formalities since Dennis isn't on the staff (or am I mistaken?) and it wouldn't be an internal hire, technically. I also agree that he's not a long term fix, but what good OC would be? Great OC's always seem to move up quickly at every level of football, so I'm sure two years would be about the best we could expect out of somebody. If they're really good it's probably one year. DE could be very good and wouldn't be quick to jump at jobs that presented themselves, because he's a known quantity, and he knows what's available out there and has chosen to stay in Bozeman.
Would have been a shorter time line than RB's coach who is already hired.
The Cats brought in potential OC hires for interviews after Miller announced his move. I think Choate is taking his time, but there will be an announcement by early next week, if not today. I know they said they would announce the hire within ten days and that was nine days ago.


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Re: NEW OC NAMES?

Post by Cledus » Fri Jan 31, 2020 12:35 pm

AFCAT wrote:
Fri Jan 31, 2020 12:13 pm
Montanabob wrote:
Fri Jan 31, 2020 12:01 pm
kennethnoisewater wrote:
Fri Jan 31, 2020 11:39 am
CelticCat wrote:
Fri Jan 31, 2020 10:55 am
coloradocat wrote:
Fri Jan 31, 2020 10:05 am
So are we going to have to wait until Wednesday to find out who the new OC is?
I'm connecting the dots, I think it's Erickson. The fact that this is so quiet, Choate usually announces hires more quickly than this, and it's during a recruitment period so you'd think they'd want to have someone in place quickly for stability... I think maybe they hired Erickson pretty quickly without an interview process. Pure speculation.
That's kinda where I'm at too. I'm guessing they have to post the position and maybe go through some formalities since Dennis isn't on the staff (or am I mistaken?) and it wouldn't be an internal hire, technically. I also agree that he's not a long term fix, but what good OC would be? Great OC's always seem to move up quickly at every level of football, so I'm sure two years would be about the best we could expect out of somebody. If they're really good it's probably one year. DE could be very good and wouldn't be quick to jump at jobs that presented themselves, because he's a known quantity, and he knows what's available out there and has chosen to stay in Bozeman.
Would have been a shorter time line than RB's coach who is already hired.
The Cats brought in potential OC hires for interviews after Miller announced his move. I think Choate is taking his time, but there will be an announcement by early next week, if not today. I know they said they would announce the hire within ten days and that was nine days ago.
I suspect Choate is being thorough in communicating exactly what he wants in an offense so that he spends the bare minimum amount of time overseeing that side of the ball. Though I can't read his mind, I believe he wants any potential OC to continue our ground game that we ran this year (including the +1), but also with big play air capability.

I don't see any problem with the process taking ten days, or even longer if it means getting the best person for the job.



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Post by imacat » Fri Jan 31, 2020 12:41 pm

Take whatever amount of time it takes to get the right fit. No one is going to remember how long the hiring process took.



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Re: NEW OC NAMES?

Post by superbobcat » Fri Jan 31, 2020 12:46 pm

I don't buy the Erickson discussion. I just don't see that as a move that Coach Choate will make. I think he will bring in a young experienced OC.



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Re: NEW OC NAMES?

Post by MSU01 » Fri Jan 31, 2020 12:57 pm

superbobcat wrote:
Fri Jan 31, 2020 12:46 pm
I don't buy the Erickson discussion. I just don't see that as a move that Coach Choate will make. I think he will bring in a young experienced OC.
Agreed. While we all get excited about the idea of having such a famous coach on staff, I don't really see that as the direction Choate will go with it. But if John Stockton can end up as an assistant basketball coach for a year, then anything's possible!


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Re: NEW OC NAMES?

Post by Cat4LifeHouseDivided » Fri Jan 31, 2020 1:03 pm

MSU01 wrote:
Fri Jan 31, 2020 12:57 pm
superbobcat wrote:
Fri Jan 31, 2020 12:46 pm
I don't buy the Erickson discussion. I just don't see that as a move that Coach Choate will make. I think he will bring in a young experienced OC.
Agreed. While we all get excited about the idea of having such a famous coach on staff, I don't really see that as the direction Choate will go with it. But if John Stockton can end up as an assistant basketball coach for a year, then anything's possible!
While I agree with you on all this, Stockton was a special circumstance with his daughter on the team.



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