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Re: Matt Miller
D ain't readyBigBruceBaker wrote: ↑Wed Jan 15, 2020 8:21 pmHappy for Miller, I think hes a really good young coach. And I'm sure he will be getting a pay raise for the move, plus more opportunities in the future.
Not sure if I'm ready for Denarius, not saying that its a bad idea I just don't know enough about his progress as a coach.
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Re: Matt Miller
So that means There’s 99% chance that he’s ready, since you said the 99 in your user name means you’re being sarcastic 99% of the time?bobcat99 wrote: ↑Wed Jan 15, 2020 9:02 pmD ain't readyBigBruceBaker wrote: ↑Wed Jan 15, 2020 8:21 pmHappy for Miller, I think hes a really good young coach. And I'm sure he will be getting a pay raise for the move, plus more opportunities in the future.
Not sure if I'm ready for Denarius, not saying that its a bad idea I just don't know enough about his progress as a coach.
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Re: Matt Miller
It's really anybody's guess.TomCat88 wrote: ↑Wed Jan 15, 2020 9:11 pmSo that means There’s 99% chance that he’s ready, since you said the 99 in your user name means you’re being sarcastic 99% of the time?bobcat99 wrote: ↑Wed Jan 15, 2020 9:02 pmD ain't readyBigBruceBaker wrote: ↑Wed Jan 15, 2020 8:21 pmHappy for Miller, I think hes a really good young coach. And I'm sure he will be getting a pay raise for the move, plus more opportunities in the future.
Not sure if I'm ready for Denarius, not saying that its a bad idea I just don't know enough about his progress as a coach.
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Re: Matt Miller
Who can blame the guy, he is going to be making over $200k at his age. Probably doubled his salary, coaching the position he played at his alma mater. That has to be a dream come true.
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Re: Matt Miller
Dennis would be cool. Started here in 1969 as a grad assistant. How cool to finish his career here. My dad is the same age and we run the family business together. He is still sharp as a tack. Pete Carroll is 68. OC might be just the right amount of responsibility. Even I don't let my dad pay the business bills anymore.
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Re: Matt Miller
So enlightening.bobcat99 wrote: ↑Wed Jan 15, 2020 10:03 pmIt's really anybody's guess.TomCat88 wrote: ↑Wed Jan 15, 2020 9:11 pmSo that means There’s 99% chance that he’s ready, since you said the 99 in your user name means you’re being sarcastic 99% of the time?bobcat99 wrote: ↑Wed Jan 15, 2020 9:02 pmD ain't readyBigBruceBaker wrote: ↑Wed Jan 15, 2020 8:21 pmHappy for Miller, I think hes a really good young coach. And I'm sure he will be getting a pay raise for the move, plus more opportunities in the future.
Not sure if I'm ready for Denarius, not saying that its a bad idea I just don't know enough about his progress as a coach.
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Re: Matt Miller
I do my best.TomCat88 wrote: ↑Wed Jan 15, 2020 10:17 pmSo enlightening.bobcat99 wrote: ↑Wed Jan 15, 2020 10:03 pmIt's really anybody's guess.TomCat88 wrote: ↑Wed Jan 15, 2020 9:11 pmSo that means There’s 99% chance that he’s ready, since you said the 99 in your user name means you’re being sarcastic 99% of the time?bobcat99 wrote: ↑Wed Jan 15, 2020 9:02 pmD ain't readyBigBruceBaker wrote: ↑Wed Jan 15, 2020 8:21 pmHappy for Miller, I think hes a really good young coach. And I'm sure he will be getting a pay raise for the move, plus more opportunities in the future.
Not sure if I'm ready for Denarius, not saying that its a bad idea I just don't know enough about his progress as a coach.
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Re: Matt Miller
This is a big loss in my opinion. We did multiple things as our regular part of our offense seamlessly...we will take a step back in our execution.
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Re: Matt Miller
He's taking the next step in his career, excited to see him move up. He'll only gain experience from here and some day we'll all say he started his coaching career @ MSU. Congrats Mr. Miller!
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Re: Matt Miller
This would be a interesting hire, but a 1 year bandaid. Sure he probably doesn't need the money, but if were to go back into coaching it would be for more money.
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Re: Matt Miller
Ash was pretty lucky. He hired OCs that were looking for work. All of them were let go from their last stop.1984champ wrote: ↑Wed Jan 15, 2020 7:58 pmAsh seemed to be able to hire good OCs.Cataholic wrote: ↑Wed Jan 15, 2020 7:18 pmThat is actually a pretty good idea. I could see it happen.PHAT CAT wrote: ↑Wed Jan 15, 2020 7:13 pmDmac and Dennis as Co-OC's. Don't laugh, it could happen.VimSince03 wrote: ↑Wed Jan 15, 2020 6:53 pmLike this guy?BleedingBLue wrote: ↑Wed Jan 15, 2020 6:51 pmHopefully we get one with some experience at the position this time. I thought Matt did well but it would nice to have someone come in who knows exactly how to do the job and but the ground running.
Everyone wants an experienced OC, but that is hard to come by in FCS. If you want to hire an experienced OC, you are looking at guys from a lower division, other FCS programs or FBS castoffs. We just can’t pay enough to bring in an OC from an FBS program. Those guys make more than Choate.
Tim Cramsey was let go from Florida International before being hired by MSU. Had OC experience at New Hampshire.
Kevin McGiven was let go from Memphis prior to coming to MSU. Had OC experience at Memphis and Weber.
Brian Wright was just let go at Youngstown state along with the whole staff. He was OC.
Dale Ploessl came with Ash from Drake.
There may be an experienced OC out there, but it will probably someone coming from a bad situation unless we hire from a lower Division. It may be a comparable risk to just go with McGhee. The guy has been a staple in our program and can provide some continuity.
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Re: Matt Miller
I figured we would lose one of two coaches this year, Choate or Miller. Both are opening doors to improve and Choate himself said last year when he promoted Miller that he was an up and comer and being a OC probably kept him around a little bit longer.
As much as it sucks to lose a coach to another program (especially a bigger program) it also means that the coach, staff, team and or philosophy is going in the right direction. I would rather see coaches getting opportunities and moving up than not getting offers and staying and staying and staying.
I personally hope that Choate was not just giving us coach speak and enjoys our level of competition, that he believes this is the real college experience where the players play because they love the game but the degree is more important. From day one I felt that Choate wanted to bring the players to MSU and mold the up and coming coaches for the next level. He could appreciate the true value of an FCS program, build the athlete to be the best they can be either in pro sports or professional life but also do the same and give the coaches a chance to develop and grow and become professional as a person and a career. This promotion and many before it makes me respect the talent, and quality of the people that Choate continues to bring through the doors year in and year out. Congrats to coach Miller but also job well done Choate, his fellow coaches and staff to continue to build everyone in the program into the best they can be
As much as it sucks to lose a coach to another program (especially a bigger program) it also means that the coach, staff, team and or philosophy is going in the right direction. I would rather see coaches getting opportunities and moving up than not getting offers and staying and staying and staying.
I personally hope that Choate was not just giving us coach speak and enjoys our level of competition, that he believes this is the real college experience where the players play because they love the game but the degree is more important. From day one I felt that Choate wanted to bring the players to MSU and mold the up and coming coaches for the next level. He could appreciate the true value of an FCS program, build the athlete to be the best they can be either in pro sports or professional life but also do the same and give the coaches a chance to develop and grow and become professional as a person and a career. This promotion and many before it makes me respect the talent, and quality of the people that Choate continues to bring through the doors year in and year out. Congrats to coach Miller but also job well done Choate, his fellow coaches and staff to continue to build everyone in the program into the best they can be
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Re: Matt Miller
I think both are true. I think choate does love the things that this level of football provide to players. Let's not kid ourselves, though. He's going to be moving up if this program continues to ascend. I don't believe he'll do the Bobby hauck thing and take a job just to take a job, and until Jay hill is gone he'll have competition here in the west. I'll put it this way to close: I believe he would have taken the wazzu job if offered. I think he'd have taken the Boise job if harsin had gone to wazzu. If the right job is offered, he goes IMO, but until then i think he's happy to continue building here.catgrad05 wrote: ↑Thu Jan 16, 2020 1:17 amI figured we would lose one of two coaches this year, Choate or Miller. Both are opening doors to improve and Choate himself said last year when he promoted Miller that he was an up and comer and being a OC probably kept him around a little bit longer.
As much as it sucks to lose a coach to another program (especially a bigger program) it also means that the coach, staff, team and or philosophy is going in the right direction. I would rather see coaches getting opportunities and moving up than not getting offers and staying and staying and staying.
I personally hope that Choate was not just giving us coach speak and enjoys our level of competition, that he believes this is the real college experience where the players play because they love the game but the degree is more important. From day one I felt that Choate wanted to bring the players to MSU and mold the up and coming coaches for the next level. He could appreciate the true value of an FCS program, build the athlete to be the best they can be either in pro sports or professional life but also do the same and give the coaches a chance to develop and grow and become professional as a person and a career. This promotion and many before it makes me respect the talent, and quality of the people that Choate continues to bring through the doors year in and year out. Congrats to coach Miller but also job well done Choate, his fellow coaches and staff to continue to build everyone in the program into the best they can be
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Re: Matt Miller
Seems very telling that recently in the Big Sky we are seeing former head coaches and successful coordinators move up to FBS and then return to the Big Sky, Hauk, Taylor, Baldwin. Jay Hill has publicly stated that it would have to be a special opportunity for him to leave Weber. The head coaching jobs in the Big Sky at the FCS level seem to be pretty good jobs. If you can build a successful program there is a lot of job security at this level. Not so much at the FBS level. There are coaches at this level with some pretty long runs in there position. I hope Choate realizes that the grass is not always greener and with these former coaches returning to the Big Sky the evidence is there.GoldstoneCat wrote: ↑Thu Jan 16, 2020 6:29 amI think both are true. I think choate does love the things that this level of football provide to players. Let's not kid ourselves, though. He's going to be moving up if this program continues to ascend. I don't believe he'll do the Bobby hauck thing and take a job just to take a job, and until Jay hill is gone he'll have competition here in the west. I'll put it this way to close: I believe he would have taken the wazzu job if offered. I think he'd have taken the Boise job if harsin had gone to wazzu. If the right job is offered, he goes IMO, but until then i think he's happy to continue building here.catgrad05 wrote: ↑Thu Jan 16, 2020 1:17 amI figured we would lose one of two coaches this year, Choate or Miller. Both are opening doors to improve and Choate himself said last year when he promoted Miller that he was an up and comer and being a OC probably kept him around a little bit longer.
As much as it sucks to lose a coach to another program (especially a bigger program) it also means that the coach, staff, team and or philosophy is going in the right direction. I would rather see coaches getting opportunities and moving up than not getting offers and staying and staying and staying.
I personally hope that Choate was not just giving us coach speak and enjoys our level of competition, that he believes this is the real college experience where the players play because they love the game but the degree is more important. From day one I felt that Choate wanted to bring the players to MSU and mold the up and coming coaches for the next level. He could appreciate the true value of an FCS program, build the athlete to be the best they can be either in pro sports or professional life but also do the same and give the coaches a chance to develop and grow and become professional as a person and a career. This promotion and many before it makes me respect the talent, and quality of the people that Choate continues to bring through the doors year in and year out. Congrats to coach Miller but also job well done Choate, his fellow coaches and staff to continue to build everyone in the program into the best they can be
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Re: Matt Miller
Agreed. Worse ways to spend one's time coaching, I'd think. These guys are so competitive though that the time always comes to find out if they can do it at another level. If they can, then another level yet. The nature of the beast, IMO.1984champ wrote: ↑Thu Jan 16, 2020 7:31 amSeems very telling that recently in the Big Sky we are seeing former head coaches and successful coordinators move up to FBS and then return to the Big Sky, Hauk, Taylor, Baldwin. Jay Hill has publicly stated that it would have to be a special opportunity for him to leave Weber. The head coaching jobs in the Big Sky at the FCS level seem to be pretty good jobs. If you can build a successful program there is a lot of job security at this level. Not so much at the FBS level. There are coaches at this level with some pretty long runs in there position. I hope Choate realizes that the grass is not always greener and with these former coaches returning to the Big Sky the evidence is there.GoldstoneCat wrote: ↑Thu Jan 16, 2020 6:29 amI think both are true. I think choate does love the things that this level of football provide to players. Let's not kid ourselves, though. He's going to be moving up if this program continues to ascend. I don't believe he'll do the Bobby hauck thing and take a job just to take a job, and until Jay hill is gone he'll have competition here in the west. I'll put it this way to close: I believe he would have taken the wazzu job if offered. I think he'd have taken the Boise job if harsin had gone to wazzu. If the right job is offered, he goes IMO, but until then i think he's happy to continue building here.catgrad05 wrote: ↑Thu Jan 16, 2020 1:17 amI figured we would lose one of two coaches this year, Choate or Miller. Both are opening doors to improve and Choate himself said last year when he promoted Miller that he was an up and comer and being a OC probably kept him around a little bit longer.
As much as it sucks to lose a coach to another program (especially a bigger program) it also means that the coach, staff, team and or philosophy is going in the right direction. I would rather see coaches getting opportunities and moving up than not getting offers and staying and staying and staying.
I personally hope that Choate was not just giving us coach speak and enjoys our level of competition, that he believes this is the real college experience where the players play because they love the game but the degree is more important. From day one I felt that Choate wanted to bring the players to MSU and mold the up and coming coaches for the next level. He could appreciate the true value of an FCS program, build the athlete to be the best they can be either in pro sports or professional life but also do the same and give the coaches a chance to develop and grow and become professional as a person and a career. This promotion and many before it makes me respect the talent, and quality of the people that Choate continues to bring through the doors year in and year out. Congrats to coach Miller but also job well done Choate, his fellow coaches and staff to continue to build everyone in the program into the best they can be
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Re: Matt Miller
Well stated right there .catgrad05 wrote: ↑Thu Jan 16, 2020 1:17 amI figured we would lose one of two coaches this year, Choate or Miller. Both are opening doors to improve and Choate himself said last year when he promoted Miller that he was an up and comer and being a OC probably kept him around a little bit longer.
As much as it sucks to lose a coach to another program (especially a bigger program) it also means that the coach, staff, team and or philosophy is going in the right direction. I would rather see coaches getting opportunities and moving up than not getting offers and staying and staying and staying.
I personally hope that Choate was not just giving us coach speak and enjoys our level of competition, that he believes this is the real college experience where the players play because they love the game but the degree is more important. From day one I felt that Choate wanted to bring the players to MSU and mold the up and coming coaches for the next level. He could appreciate the true value of an FCS program, build the athlete to be the best they can be either in pro sports or professional life but also do the same and give the coaches a chance to develop and grow and become professional as a person and a career. This promotion and many before it makes me respect the talent, and quality of the people that Choate continues to bring through the doors year in and year out. Congrats to coach Miller but also job well done Choate, his fellow coaches and staff to continue to build everyone in the program into the best they can be
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Re: Matt Miller
Just curious, does anyone know what offensive coordinators make at other FCS schools that are not in the CAA, MVFC, or Big Sky? I was wondering if we could poach someone like Christian Taylor (O-Coordinator at the University of San Diego) who might have the prerequisite experience running an offense but still see this as a move up because of the caliber of play and perhaps? salary.
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Re: Matt Miller
I have no idea about salaries. But I have to think this is a pretty sought-after position in our ranks. I assume we'll get some great applicants and Choate has given me no reason to believe he won't make a great hire.coochorama42 wrote: ↑Thu Jan 16, 2020 11:30 amJust curious, does anyone know what offensive coordinators make at other FCS schools that are not in the CAA, MVFC, or Big Sky? I was wondering if we could poach someone like Christian Taylor (O-Coordinator at the University of San Diego) who might have the prerequisite experience running an offense but still see this as a move up because of the caliber of play and perhaps? salary.
Great for MM as well. I thought he was getting better every week. He's going to be a head coach some day for sure. Wish him all the best.
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Re: Matt Miller
A know a Bobcat great who just retired from the CFl and might be looking for a job.
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