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Re: Bobcat Athletic Complex...Construction

Posted: Fri Feb 07, 2020 4:04 pm
by PHAT CAT
Wow! Thanks for posting Stevo. That's going to be such a huge upgrade for the players and coaches. Amazing.

Re: Bobcat Athletic Complex...Construction

Posted: Fri Feb 07, 2020 4:04 pm
by VimSince03
stevo wrote:
Fri Feb 07, 2020 3:56 pm
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Second floor
That second floor though...

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Re: Bobcat Athletic Complex...Construction

Posted: Fri Feb 07, 2020 4:06 pm
by Joe Bobcat
Thanks for the floor plans, they are nice to see. A bit off topic but what is the plan for how the Cat prowl will be handled or is that a casualty of progress?

Re: Bobcat Athletic Complex...Construction

Posted: Fri Feb 07, 2020 4:07 pm
by wbtfg
stevo wrote:
Fri Feb 07, 2020 1:55 pm
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not sure this works well but ....
What is this? A training facility for ants?

Re: Bobcat Athletic Complex...Construction

Posted: Fri Feb 07, 2020 4:12 pm
by AFCAT
stevo wrote:
Fri Feb 07, 2020 3:56 pm
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Second floor
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Re: Bobcat Athletic Complex...Construction

Posted: Fri Feb 07, 2020 4:12 pm
by CelticCat
wbtfg wrote:
Fri Feb 07, 2020 4:07 pm
stevo wrote:
Fri Feb 07, 2020 1:55 pm
[Image][/img]

not sure this works well but ....
What is this? A training facility for ants?
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Re: Bobcat Athletic Complex...Construction

Posted: Fri Feb 07, 2020 4:13 pm
by VimSince03
AFCAT wrote:
Fri Feb 07, 2020 4:12 pm
stevo wrote:
Fri Feb 07, 2020 3:56 pm
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Second floor
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If you actually click on Stevo's picture in his link, it'll take you to a website where you can maximize the picture bigger than this.

Re: Bobcat Athletic Complex...Construction

Posted: Fri Feb 07, 2020 4:18 pm
by AFCAT
Joe Bobcat wrote:
Fri Feb 07, 2020 4:06 pm
Thanks for the floor plans, they are nice to see. A bit off topic but what is the plan for how the Cat prowl will be handled or is that a casualty of progress?
I believe it’s a casualty of progress. No sense having the player march from the field house anymore. Having some kid fans line up from the new facility to the field may be an option. I’m sure Costello will figure something out.

Re: Bobcat Athletic Complex...Construction

Posted: Fri Feb 07, 2020 4:20 pm
by AFCAT
VimSince03 wrote:
Fri Feb 07, 2020 4:13 pm
AFCAT wrote:
Fri Feb 07, 2020 4:12 pm
stevo wrote:
Fri Feb 07, 2020 3:56 pm
ImageImage

Second floor
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If you actually click on Stevo's picture in his link, it'll take you to a website where you can maximize the picture bigger than this.
That what I used to post this image. Since I don’t have the original, I had to copy what he had on postimg. I can’t wait to see the color images.

Re: Bobcat Athletic Complex...Construction

Posted: Fri Feb 07, 2020 5:08 pm
by mslacatfan
wbtfg wrote:
Fri Feb 07, 2020 4:07 pm
stevo wrote:
Fri Feb 07, 2020 1:55 pm
[Image][/img]

not sure this works well but ....
What is this? A training facility for ants?

well played.

Re: Bobcat Athletic Complex...Construction

Posted: Fri Feb 07, 2020 5:53 pm
by 91catAlum
luckyirishguy25 wrote:
Fri Feb 07, 2020 11:03 am
kwcat wrote:
Fri Feb 07, 2020 10:26 am
CelticCat wrote:
Fri Feb 07, 2020 10:12 am
Looks different today:

https://www.kathwilliams.com/project/30 ... University
Still not what I am expecting.
What is this!? A school for ants!?
Haha thanks for the laugh!

Re: Bobcat Athletic Complex...Construction

Posted: Sat Feb 08, 2020 9:01 am
by Catfanatic84
Any word on when ground breaking will take place?

Re: Bobcat Athletic Complex...Construction

Posted: Sat Feb 08, 2020 9:20 am
by TomCat88
Catfanatic84 wrote:
Sat Feb 08, 2020 9:01 am
Any word on when ground breaking will take place?
According to first post bids were due Thursday. No word on when the contractor selection is to be made or the exact date construction is to start.

Re: Bobcat Athletic Complex...Construction

Posted: Sat Feb 08, 2020 12:34 pm
by kennethnoisewater
Catfanatic84 wrote:
Sat Feb 08, 2020 9:01 am
Any word on when ground breaking will take place?
I heard March 6. I'm sure that would be a ceremonial thing with gold shovels and actual construction would start shortly thereafter.

Re: Bobcat Athletic Complex...Construction

Posted: Sat Feb 08, 2020 7:25 pm
by Catfanatic84
kennethnoisewater wrote:
Sat Feb 08, 2020 12:34 pm
Catfanatic84 wrote:
Sat Feb 08, 2020 9:01 am
Any word on when ground breaking will take place?
I heard March 6. I'm sure that would be a ceremonial thing with gold shovels and actual construction would start shortly thereafter.
Great...looking forward to seeing construction cranes over Bobcat Stadium! Hope we have a webcam as they're building...give me something to look at over the long days with no football or basketball.

Re: Bobcat Athletic Complex...Construction

Posted: Sat Feb 08, 2020 9:39 pm
by lutecat
VimSince03 wrote:
Fri Feb 07, 2020 2:18 pm
CelticCat wrote:
Fri Feb 07, 2020 1:24 pm
VimSince03 wrote:
Fri Feb 07, 2020 10:53 am
Hawks86 wrote:
Fri Feb 07, 2020 10:37 am
I'd rather they save some money on design costs if it gets more of what's needed inside.
Bobcatnation every time a design (that doesn't come from any source at MSU, likely isn't the final product even though it still looks fantastic/better than anything MSU has ever had, and why overreact before anything actually gets built????) gets posted to the architects website...

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also...Bobcatnation's reaction to an OC that doesn't have a "message board approved" resume and/or isn't named Dennis Erickson or Denarius McGhee.

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I certainly get that part about buildings, but is not the whole point of a message board to discuss and debate things like hiring a new OC and what we think of the hire?
Absolutely. Its a board full of opinions and that's what makes it fun. Posters are also allowed to disagree with opinions and offer their own. So my opinion is that I find it interesting posters were underwhelmed with Justin Udy's resume yet felt Denarius was qualified for the job of OC/QB coach. Udy followed a path most college coaches take to get an OC job at the FCS level and its being disregarded because he didn't call plays at the FCS level? Despite being under the tutelage of some of the best offensive minds in the FBS (Matt Wells/David Yost) and actually have playcalling experience with a record breaking offensive output to boot? Everyone loved the Messingham hire in 2016 because he had a ton of playcalling experience across all levels of football...and then everyone hated him by the time the season was over. So in the end, for me, I disagree with anyone having an opinion of "underwhelmed" with this hire as Jeff turned down a few other candidates who did have FCS OC experience. Also, keep in mind that the entire coaching staff were in unison with hiring Udy, not just Jeff's way or the highway.
Truth right here. I always find it interesting when people want a Cat player to be the dude with no other reasoning than they were a Cat player. Don't get me wrong, I want to see our players have success but i want to see the best candidate get the job. For some it seems that being a Cat means you're the best candidate.

Re: Bobcat Athletic Complex...Construction

Posted: Sun Feb 09, 2020 4:32 pm
by KittieKop
Back to the topic of the thread and the BAC. I say this having contributed to the fundraising, because I'm a believer in the project: I'm underwhelmed by the exterior design. Floor plan is nice, but was maybe expecting more architecturally, more to develop the overall look of the stadium complex. Guess I'll reserve final judgement (like my opinion matters anyway) until completion, but looks like a fairly generic building design. Fits well with their work on Gallatin and Hyalite Halls, Jabs, and the dining halls, but doesn't seem to really fit in the stadium complex. Guess I was expecting something that would make people stop and really admire, marvel that MSU was able to build something really remarkable. Eh, wait and see the final product I guess.

Re: Bobcat Athletic Complex...Construction

Posted: Sun Feb 09, 2020 4:44 pm
by TomCat88
KittieKop wrote:
Sun Feb 09, 2020 4:32 pm
Back to the topic of the thread and the BAC. I say this having contributed to the fundraising, because I'm a believer in the project: I'm underwhelmed by the exterior design. Floor plan is nice, but was maybe expecting more architecturally, more to develop the overall look of the stadium complex. Guess I'll reserve final judgement (like my opinion matters anyway) until completion, but looks like a fairly generic building design. Fits well with their work on Gallatin and Hyalite Halls, Jabs, and the dining halls, but doesn't seem to really fit in the stadium complex. Guess I was expecting something that would make people stop and really admire, marvel that MSU was able to build something really remarkable. Eh, wait and see the final product I guess.
Hardly ever does someone’s view of a drawing ever match their expectation. Even if it’s a 3D drawing. A good example of this is if you look at a photo of the end zone grandstand and then look at it in person it has an entirely different presence. Likewise the image can look better than the actual product.

Re: Bobcat Athletic Complex...Construction

Posted: Sun Feb 09, 2020 4:48 pm
by KittieKop
TomCat88 wrote:
Sun Feb 09, 2020 4:44 pm
KittieKop wrote:
Sun Feb 09, 2020 4:32 pm
Back to the topic of the thread and the BAC. I say this having contributed to the fundraising, because I'm a believer in the project: I'm underwhelmed by the exterior design. Floor plan is nice, but was maybe expecting more architecturally, more to develop the overall look of the stadium complex. Guess I'll reserve final judgement (like my opinion matters anyway) until completion, but looks like a fairly generic building design. Fits well with their work on Gallatin and Hyalite Halls, Jabs, and the dining halls, but doesn't seem to really fit in the stadium complex. Guess I was expecting something that would make people stop and really admire, marvel that MSU was able to build something really remarkable. Eh, wait and see the final product I guess.
Hardly ever does someone’s view of a drawing ever match their expectation. Even if it’s a 3D drawing. A good example of this is if you look at a photo of the end zone grandstand and then look at it in person it has an entirely different presence. Likewise the image can look better than the actual product.
I guess I'm thinking that when almost anyone looked at the renderings of the EZ project, you stopped and thought, 'holy crap that's going to really change the whole look and feel of the stadium." I look at this and think, "huh, nice classroom building." Again, yes, wait and see what it's like in person when it's completed. I could be totally wrong.

Re: Bobcat Athletic Complex...Construction

Posted: Sun Feb 09, 2020 6:18 pm
by TomCat88
KittieKop wrote:
Sun Feb 09, 2020 4:48 pm
TomCat88 wrote:
Sun Feb 09, 2020 4:44 pm
KittieKop wrote:
Sun Feb 09, 2020 4:32 pm
Back to the topic of the thread and the BAC. I say this having contributed to the fundraising, because I'm a believer in the project: I'm underwhelmed by the exterior design. Floor plan is nice, but was maybe expecting more architecturally, more to develop the overall look of the stadium complex. Guess I'll reserve final judgement (like my opinion matters anyway) until completion, but looks like a fairly generic building design. Fits well with their work on Gallatin and Hyalite Halls, Jabs, and the dining halls, but doesn't seem to really fit in the stadium complex. Guess I was expecting something that would make people stop and really admire, marvel that MSU was able to build something really remarkable. Eh, wait and see the final product I guess.
Hardly ever does someone’s view of a drawing ever match their expectation. Even if it’s a 3D drawing. A good example of this is if you look at a photo of the end zone grandstand and then look at it in person it has an entirely different presence. Likewise the image can look better than the actual product.
I guess I'm thinking that when almost anyone looked at the renderings of the EZ project, you stopped and thought, 'holy crap that's going to really change the whole look and feel of the stadium." I look at this and think, "huh, nice classroom building." Again, yes, wait and see what it's like in person when it's completed. I could be totally wrong.
Or it could look worse than you expected. I’m just saying you should think critically or test the null hypothesis. When I do that in this case I realize I might as well wait. You seem to have taken a shortcut to that conclusion, which is good.