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Re: Next Year
Posted: Thu Dec 26, 2019 5:34 am
by utucats
onceacat wrote: ↑Sat Dec 21, 2019 11:04 pm
If Choate has (re)built what most posters think he has (I.e. a Top 4 program has hat is ready o take the next step to challenge NDSU and JMU) that shouldn’t be much of a problem.
If he hasn’t rebuilt hat, then yes, those road games are going to be really tough.
It should be a good measuring stick.
I don’t know about rebuilt? Unless you are taking from the 80s. We were swimming in waters that this program hasn’t been in for decades.
Re: Next Year
Posted: Thu Dec 26, 2019 7:55 am
by iaafan
You sound sure about that. What makes you so sure? Are those teams all going to improve or is MSU have some unknown problems? Was the UM win a fluke?
Re: Next Year
Posted: Thu Dec 26, 2019 8:48 am
by The MICKSTER
Going into this year I said that the Defense was our biggest ?. With the loss of Tucker Yates, Zach Wright, Tyrone Fa’Anono, & Grant Collins, combined with a new Defensive Coordinator…..I was concerned. Certainly the 2019 Bobcats Defense was stellar. However, because of losses on the defensive side of the ball it will again be somewhat of a ‘reloading’ year which always bring some concern. With how Kane Ioane made things work this year I’m not as concerned as last year.
The schedule next year, especially our road schedule as others have pointed out, will be particularly challenging. I’m planning on making it to @Utah……hope it’s a night game. I was at the CATS game vs Utah in 2011 and although we didn’t come out with a win, it was a great game experience.
I believe next year will be the 3rd year in a row in which we’ve only lost 1 Senior on the OL. Two years ago we lost LT Dylan Mahoney (Caleb Gillis was hurt for most of the year), last year we lost center Alex Neale, this year we lose RT Mitch Brott. Granted losing a player like Mitch Brott at LT will hurt, but we have an amazing amount of player starts returning on the OL…..I have no doubt that our running dominance will continue in 2020.
Offensively I think how the QB situation plays out will be the biggest ?....AGAIN. Rovig came on strong the last part of 2019….can he continue? This year the CATS ended the season near the bottom of the BSC with ~170 passing yards/game, and Rovig was 9th in Pass Efficiency at 135.1, which with the way we run the ball if that could just get up to the 140+ range would be a big help. With the way Rovig performed late in the season I believe he will take another step forward. Will McKay come in and take over as the starter? Will it ‘all come together’ for Casey Bauman? Time will tell, but it is fair to say that just like the last 4 years, next year there will likely be a ? at QB to start the season.
A quick review of BSC teams roster:
*WSU only has 11 Seniors graduating and their QB Constantine is coming back
*um has 17 Seniors graduating and lose their starting QB Sneed
*SSU has 19 Seniors graduating and their QB Thompson is coming back
*EWU has 21 Seniors graduating and their QB Barriere is coming back
**the CATS have 18 Seniors graduating and we aren’t losing our starting QB, losing Jonsen will be felt though.
Looking forward to MSU’s 2020 season…GO CATS!
Re: Next Year
Posted: Thu Dec 26, 2019 9:35 am
by onceacat
utucats wrote: ↑Thu Dec 26, 2019 5:34 am
onceacat wrote: ↑Sat Dec 21, 2019 11:04 pm
If Choate has (re)built what most posters think he has (I.e. a Top 4 program has hat is ready o take the next step to challenge NDSU and JMU) that shouldn’t be much of a problem.
If he hasn’t rebuilt hat, then yes, those road games are going to be really tough.
It should be a good measuring stick.
I don’t know about rebuilt? Unless you are taking from the 80s. We were swimming in waters that this program hasn’t been in for decades.
The Cats lost a total of 8 conference games over 5 seasons earlier this decade. If we keep the conference losses to between 1 and 2, I’d say we are back to swimming in the waters we are accustomed to.
Re: Next Year
Posted: Thu Dec 26, 2019 10:49 am
by BelgradeBobcat
iaafan wrote: ↑Thu Dec 26, 2019 7:55 am
You sound sure about that. What makes you so sure? Are those teams all going to improve or is MSU have some unknown problems? Was the UM win a fluke?
Those three schools are tough at home against anybody in any season. I'm not saying we can't I'm just saying it'll be tough.
Re: Next Year
Posted: Thu Dec 26, 2019 11:07 am
by RickRund
The MICKSTER wrote: ↑Thu Dec 26, 2019 8:48 am
Going into this year I said that the Defense was our biggest ?. With the loss of Tucker Yates, Zach Wright, Tyrone Fa’Anono, & Grant Collins, combined with a new Defensive Coordinator…..I was concerned. Certainly the 2019 Bobcats Defense was stellar. However, because of losses on the defensive side of the ball it will again be somewhat of a ‘reloading’ year which always bring some concern. With how Kane Ioane made things work this year I’m not as concerned as last year.
The schedule next year, especially our road schedule as others have pointed out, will be particularly challenging. I’m planning on making it to @Utah……hope it’s a night game. I was at the CATS game vs Utah in 2011 and although we didn’t come out with a win, it was a great game experience.
I believe next year will be the 3rd year in a row in which we’ve only lost 1 Senior on the OL. Two years ago we lost LT Dylan Mahoney
(Caleb Gillis was hurt for most of the year), last year we lost center Alex Neale, this year we lose RT Mitch Brott. Granted losing a player like Mitch Brott at LT will hurt, but we have an amazing amount of player starts returning on the OL…..I have no doubt that our running dominance will continue in 2020.
Offensively I think how the QB situation plays out will be the biggest ?....AGAIN. Rovig came on strong the last part of 2019….can he continue? This year the CATS ended the season near the bottom of the BSC with ~170 passing yards/game, and Rovig was 9th in Pass Efficiency at 135.1,
which with the way we run the ball if that could just get up to the 140+ range would be a big help. With the way Rovig performed late in the season I believe he will take another step forward. Will McKay come in and take over as the starter? Will it ‘
all come together’ for Casey Bauman? Time will tell, but it is fair to say that just like the last 4 years, next year there will likely be a ? at QB to start the season.
A quick review of BSC teams roster:
*WSU only has 11 Seniors graduating and their QB Constantine is coming back
*um has 17 Seniors graduating and lose their starting QB Sneed
*SSU has 19 Seniors graduating and their QB Thompson is coming back
*EWU has 21 Seniors graduating and their QB Barriere is coming back
**the CATS have 18 Seniors graduating and we aren’t losing our starting QB,
losing Jonsen will be felt though.
Looking forward to MSU’s 2020 season…
GO CATS!
Heard from a friend that Thompson signed a 5 year extension on his contract to play QB.
Re: Next Year
Posted: Thu Dec 26, 2019 1:53 pm
by KittieKop
onceacat wrote: ↑Thu Dec 26, 2019 9:35 am
utucats wrote: ↑Thu Dec 26, 2019 5:34 am
onceacat wrote: ↑Sat Dec 21, 2019 11:04 pm
If Choate has (re)built what most posters think he has (I.e. a Top 4 program has hat is ready o take the next step to challenge NDSU and JMU) that shouldn’t be much of a problem.
If he hasn’t rebuilt hat, then yes, those road games are going to be really tough.
It should be a good measuring stick.
I don’t know about rebuilt? Unless you are taking from the 80s. We were swimming in waters that this program hasn’t been in for decades.
The Cats lost a total of 8 conference games over 5 seasons earlier this decade. If we keep the conference losses to between 1 and 2, I’d say we are back to swimming in the waters we are accustomed to.
Shhhhh. We don't talk about those dark days of the early 2010's. Such a waste, those three straight conference championships.
Re: Next Year
Posted: Thu Dec 26, 2019 2:25 pm
by wapiti
Next Year: 9 - 2
Losses to Utah and BBQ
Re: Next Year
Posted: Thu Dec 26, 2019 3:59 pm
by utucats
KittieKop wrote: ↑Thu Dec 26, 2019 1:53 pm
onceacat wrote: ↑Thu Dec 26, 2019 9:35 am
utucats wrote: ↑Thu Dec 26, 2019 5:34 am
onceacat wrote: ↑Sat Dec 21, 2019 11:04 pm
If Choate has (re)built what most posters think he has (I.e. a Top 4 program has hat is ready o take the next step to challenge NDSU and JMU) that shouldn’t be much of a problem.
If he hasn’t rebuilt hat, then yes, those road games are going to be really tough.
It should be a good measuring stick.
I don’t know about rebuilt? Unless you are taking from the 80s. We were swimming in waters that this program hasn’t been in for decades.
The Cats lost a total of 8 conference games over 5 seasons earlier this decade. If we keep the conference losses to between 1 and 2, I’d say we are back to swimming in the waters we are accustomed to.
Shhhhh. We don't talk about those dark days of the early 2010's. Such a waste, those three straight conference championships.
Nah, we can talk about those 3 straight shared conference championships. Can we also acknowledge the ass kicking we took against most every good program we faced? How about that #1 ranking that turned into getting dominated at home by the griz, did that happen? How about having McGhee and never getting to the semis?
Choate has done in 4 years what no staff since the 80s has accomplished. I know that admitting being wrong isn’t fun but when reality is staring you straight in the face.
Actually, maybe I’m wrong. I’m just a random Cats fan posting on social media. I wonder what the experts think? Simple test to prove me wrong. List a former Cats Head Coach and his current coaching title to see what those in the know think of our former coaches. Surely a back to back to back conference championship level coach is running a program somewhere.
Re: Next Year
Posted: Thu Dec 26, 2019 5:42 pm
by Montanabob
wapiti wrote: ↑Thu Dec 26, 2019 2:25 pm
Next Year: 9 - 2
Losses to Utah and BBQ
Huh? We won't lose at the red rag next year. But I think we will lose the Weber next year. 9 and 2 sounds good
Re: Next Year
Posted: Thu Dec 26, 2019 5:53 pm
by jgrilley406
Montanabob wrote: ↑Thu Dec 26, 2019 5:42 pm
wapiti wrote: ↑Thu Dec 26, 2019 2:25 pm
Next Year: 9 - 2
Losses to Utah and BBQ
Huh? We won't lose at the red rag next year. But I think we will lose the Weber next year. 9 and 2 sounds good
Ya I don’t see us losing to EWU, they just lose too much especially on offense with graduation. They lose their starting RB, all 5 OL, TE and a starting WR. Also, we’ll have 2 weeks to prepare for them, since we play them after our bye week, which will help.
Re: Next Year
Posted: Thu Dec 26, 2019 6:30 pm
by kwcat
Montanabob wrote: ↑Thu Dec 26, 2019 5:42 pm
wapiti wrote: ↑Thu Dec 26, 2019 2:25 pm
Next Year: 9 - 2
Losses to Utah and BBQ
Huh? We won't lose at the red rag next year. But I think we will lose the Weber next year. 9 and 2 sounds good
?
Re: Next Year
Posted: Thu Dec 26, 2019 6:32 pm
by canyoncat
BBQ is Weber
Re: Next Year
Posted: Thu Dec 26, 2019 7:50 pm
by Montanabob
canyoncat wrote: ↑Thu Dec 26, 2019 6:32 pm
BBQ is Weber
I thought it was an inferno reference. My bad. Still think it will be the toughest BSC game next year.
Re: Next Year
Posted: Thu Dec 26, 2019 9:56 pm
by onceacat
utucats wrote: ↑Thu Dec 26, 2019 3:59 pm
KittieKop wrote: ↑Thu Dec 26, 2019 1:53 pm
onceacat wrote: ↑Thu Dec 26, 2019 9:35 am
utucats wrote: ↑Thu Dec 26, 2019 5:34 am
onceacat wrote: ↑Sat Dec 21, 2019 11:04 pm
If Choate has (re)built what most posters think he has (I.e. a Top 4 program has hat is ready o take the next step to challenge NDSU and JMU) that shouldn’t be much of a problem.
If he hasn’t rebuilt hat, then yes, those road games are going to be really tough.
It should be a good measuring stick.
I don’t know about rebuilt? Unless you are taking from the 80s. We were swimming in waters that this program hasn’t been in for decades.
The Cats lost a total of 8 conference games over 5 seasons earlier this decade. If we keep the conference losses to between 1 and 2, I’d say we are back to swimming in the waters we are accustomed to.
Shhhhh. We don't talk about those dark days of the early 2010's. Such a waste, those three straight conference championships.
Nah, we can talk about those 3 straight shared conference championships. Can we also acknowledge the ass kicking we took against most every good program we faced? How about that #1 ranking that turned into getting dominated at home by the griz, did that happen? How about having McGhee and never getting to the semis?
Choate has done in 4 years what no staff since the 80s has accomplished. I know that admitting being wrong isn’t fun but when reality is staring you straight in the face.
Actually, maybe I’m wrong. I’m just a random Cats fan posting on social media. I wonder what the experts think? Simple test to prove me wrong. List a former Cats Head Coach and his current coaching title to see what those in the know think of our former coaches. Surely a back to back to back conference championship level coach is running a program somewhere.
You seem incapable of celebrating a successful season without tearing down other people. By “rebuilt” I mean rebuilding a program that lives in the Top 10. I’m very excited that in 4 years, our current staff has returned us to that status. If we throw in a couple of conference championships in the next few years, I’m also going to be thrilled with that. And if this staff, or another, finally improves on that performance and gets us to the chipper, I’ll be even more thrilled.
Unless by “swimming in waters they haven’t been” you mean winning one more game before being embarassed by the finalists. Which you can’t possibly mean.
The Cats are right back to where they’ve been for the better part of the last decade.
Which is awesome.
Re: Next Year
Posted: Fri Dec 27, 2019 12:30 am
by KittieKop
utucats wrote: ↑Thu Dec 26, 2019 3:59 pm
KittieKop wrote: ↑Thu Dec 26, 2019 1:53 pm
onceacat wrote: ↑Thu Dec 26, 2019 9:35 am
utucats wrote: ↑Thu Dec 26, 2019 5:34 am
onceacat wrote: ↑Sat Dec 21, 2019 11:04 pm
If Choate has (re)built what most posters think he has (I.e. a Top 4 program has hat is ready o take the next step to challenge NDSU and JMU) that shouldn’t be much of a problem.
If he hasn’t rebuilt hat, then yes, those road games are going to be really tough.
It should be a good measuring stick.
I don’t know about rebuilt? Unless you are taking from the 80s. We were swimming in waters that this program hasn’t been in for decades.
The Cats lost a total of 8 conference games over 5 seasons earlier this decade. If we keep the conference losses to between 1 and 2, I’d say we are back to swimming in the waters we are accustomed to.
Shhhhh. We don't talk about those dark days of the early 2010's. Such a waste, those three straight conference championships.
Nah, we can talk about those 3 straight shared conference championships. Can we also acknowledge the ass kicking we took against most every good program we faced? How about that #1 ranking that turned into getting dominated at home by the griz, did that happen? How about having McGhee and never getting to the semis?
Choate has done in 4 years what no staff since the 80s has accomplished. I know that admitting being wrong isn’t fun but when reality is staring you straight in the face.
Actually, maybe I’m wrong. I’m just a random Cats fan posting on social media. I wonder what the experts think? Simple test to prove me wrong. List a former Cats Head Coach and his current coaching title to see what those in the know think of our former coaches. Surely a back to back to back conference championship level coach is running a program somewhere.
You're way to easy to trigger there sport
Why is it the only way you're capable of celebrating the success that Choate and his staff are having - particularly this year- is by tearing down and denigrating past staffs and coaches? All. The. Time.
We are where we are today because of the steps taken FROM the early 1990's (sorry if you can't remember that far back). In part, each staff has had success because of things the prior left behind. Hysell, Kramer, Ash, Choate. Kramer doesn't have success if Cliff doesn't start turning the ship. Ash doesn't have success without the recruiting and QBC started under Kramer. Choate wouldn't be here or have the success without the stadium improvements, attendance explosion and turn around of the program in the community under Ash. And Choate is forging his own path here and will affect the next coach, whoever that is.
Your hatred is an ugly look. As is your almost creepy man-crush on Choate. You're unnaturally defensive about him, it's a little weird actually.
Tell me, if Choate "gets his ass kicked" the next, say, three years in the playoffs, or misses the playoffs for two years, is that when you turn on him, or what's your trigger for running him down? You obviously have a line in the sand. What if we go to the quarters or semis the next two seasons and, for the fourth straight year, get our asses handed to us by NDSU, you going to be on here complaining about not being able to "take the next step" and campaigning to throw Choate out of town? What's your standard for success, since most of the 2010's was an abject failure in your eyes?
Re: Next Year
Posted: Fri Dec 27, 2019 8:27 am
by 91catAlum
Welp, so much for this thread...
Re: Next Year
Posted: Fri Dec 27, 2019 10:32 am
by bobcat99
canyoncat wrote: ↑Thu Dec 26, 2019 6:32 pm
BBQ is Weber
I'm embarrassed at how long it took me to figure out why Weber would be BBQ.
Funny how when you know a word is pronounced differently, you don't always look at the spelling and correlate from there. The brain is weird.
Re: Next Year
Posted: Fri Dec 27, 2019 11:12 am
by Buckaroo Bonzi
bobcat99 wrote: ↑Fri Dec 27, 2019 10:32 am
canyoncat wrote: ↑Thu Dec 26, 2019 6:32 pm
BBQ is Weber
I'm embarrassed at how long it took me to figure out why Weber would be BBQ.
Funny how when you know a word is pronounced differently, you don't always look at the spelling and correlate from there. The brain is weird.
LOL mine too~ Thanx
Re: Next Year
Posted: Fri Dec 27, 2019 11:32 am
by canyoncat
Buckaroo Bonzi wrote: ↑Fri Dec 27, 2019 11:12 am
bobcat99 wrote: ↑Fri Dec 27, 2019 10:32 am
canyoncat wrote: ↑Thu Dec 26, 2019 6:32 pm
BBQ is Weber
I'm embarrassed at how long it took me to figure out why Weber would be BBQ.
Funny how when you know a word is pronounced differently, you don't always look at the spelling and correlate from there. The brain is weird.
Took me a little while to realize who they were talking about over in the Championship Sub Division site when
I first saw the reference.
Anyway back to topic. I think the D-line depends on the development of a true Nose Tackle. Would like to see Areta become that guy and alow Chase Benson to move over to his more natural D-Tackle position.
LOL mine too~ Thanx