Well, he wasn’t wrong so you’ve got to give credit where it’s due.seataccat wrote: ↑Fri Nov 29, 2019 7:16 pmThis really is a good topic of discussion for the off week and you hit the nail on the head about the griz fan base.
Some other satisfying gems.
On their game day thread. The first post said. " Let's get this ass beating started." Hahaha
The same guy a couple posts later predicted "48-14 good guys."
Seeing the smugness wiped off of haucks face in the presser was fun. In typical Hauck classless fashion when asked what he thought coach Choate does good to prepare his players? Instead of throwing out some flattering coach speak he said "I don't know, I don't go to their practice."
In their fan podcast they repeatedly called us Bozeman State and said that nothing about the cats scared them at all. They were smug about every win the cats had all year.
Even Colter predicted the griz to cover the 5 points they were picked by as his lock of the week.
It was a fun week for sure.
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Colter almost certainly knew Andersen wasn’t playing. I think that decision was made on Sunday or Monday.
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There has been a ton of talk by griz fans about how coach Choate has abused TA and cost him an NFL career and how without him Coach Choate will be exposed as a crappy coach.
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Yep, he was spot on... The GOOD GUYS won 48-14...Cledus wrote: ↑Fri Nov 29, 2019 7:26 pmWell, he wasn’t wrong so you’ve got to give credit where it’s due.seataccat wrote: ↑Fri Nov 29, 2019 7:16 pmThis really is a good topic of discussion for the off week and you hit the nail on the head about the griz fan base.
Some other satisfying gems.
On their game day thread. The first post said. " Let's get this ass beating started." Hahaha
The same guy a couple posts later predicted "48-14 good guys."
Seeing the smugness wiped off of haucks face in the presser was fun. In typical Hauck classless fashion when asked what he thought coach Choate does good to prepare his players? Instead of throwing out some flattering coach speak he said "I don't know, I don't go to their practice."
In their fan podcast they repeatedly called us Bozeman State and said that nothing about the cats scared them at all. They were smug about every win the cats had all year.
Even Colter predicted the griz to cover the 5 points they were picked by as his lock of the week.
It was a fun week for sure.
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You guys handled all the stuff around Cat/Griz about as straight up as would seem possible in this state with this rivalry. Lots of great content.Colter_Nuanez wrote: ↑Fri Nov 29, 2019 7:24 pmNot true. Our gambling writer Sam Lewis predicted it as the lock of the week. He had inside info that Troy Andersen was out. I have not made a public pick in a few years.seataccat wrote: ↑Fri Nov 29, 2019 7:16 pmThis really is a good topic of discussion for the off week and you hit the nail on the head about the griz fan base.
Some other satisfying gems.
On their game day thread. The first post said. " Let's get this ass beating started." Hahaha
The same guy a couple posts later predicted "48-14 good guys."
Seeing the smugness wiped off of haucks face in the presser was fun. In typical Hauck classless fashion when asked what he thought coach Choate does good to prepare his players? Instead of throwing out some flattering coach speak he said "I don't know, I don't go to their practice."
In their fan podcast they repeatedly called us Bozeman State and said that nothing about the cats scared them at all. They were smug about every win the cats had all year.
Even Colter predicted the griz to cover the 5 points they were picked by as his lock of the week.
It was a fun week for sure.
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Colter even though it's true you did not make a public pick, listening in on your prognostications it was clear you were convinced of a griz win...and that was what was covered by the "speculators" pick!
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That poster was correct in both posts. It was an absolute ass beating by the good guys.Cledus wrote: ↑Fri Nov 29, 2019 7:26 pmWell, he wasn’t wrong so you’ve got to give credit where it’s due.seataccat wrote: ↑Fri Nov 29, 2019 7:16 pmThis really is a good topic of discussion for the off week and you hit the nail on the head about the griz fan base.
Some other satisfying gems.
On their game day thread. The first post said. " Let's get this ass beating started." Hahaha
The same guy a couple posts later predicted "48-14 good guys."
Seeing the smugness wiped off of haucks face in the presser was fun. In typical Hauck classless fashion when asked what he thought coach Choate does good to prepare his players? Instead of throwing out some flattering coach speak he said "I don't know, I don't go to their practice."
In their fan podcast they repeatedly called us Bozeman State and said that nothing about the cats scared them at all. They were smug about every win the cats had all year.
Even Colter predicted the griz to cover the 5 points they were picked by as his lock of the week.
It was a fun week for sure.
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It's hard to stomach hearing the"good guys." Scott Gurnsey use to say it all the time and it always made me want to puke.PapaG wrote: ↑Fri Nov 29, 2019 11:03 pmThat poster was correct in both posts. It was an absolute ass beating by the good guys.Cledus wrote: ↑Fri Nov 29, 2019 7:26 pmWell, he wasn’t wrong so you’ve got to give credit where it’s due.seataccat wrote: ↑Fri Nov 29, 2019 7:16 pmThis really is a good topic of discussion for the off week and you hit the nail on the head about the griz fan base.
Some other satisfying gems.
On their game day thread. The first post said. " Let's get this ass beating started." Hahaha
The same guy a couple posts later predicted "48-14 good guys."
Seeing the smugness wiped off of haucks face in the presser was fun. In typical Hauck classless fashion when asked what he thought coach Choate does good to prepare his players? Instead of throwing out some flattering coach speak he said "I don't know, I don't go to their practice."
In their fan podcast they repeatedly called us Bozeman State and said that nothing about the cats scared them at all. They were smug about every win the cats had all year.
Even Colter predicted the griz to cover the 5 points they were picked by as his lock of the week.
It was a fun week for sure.
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Speaking of Gurnsey...did he have anything to compete with his epic melt down after last year's game?
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So TA has been named Newcomer of the year as a freshman, 1st Team All Big Sky as a sophomore at QB, and now 1st Team All Big Sky at linebacker as a junior. I can assure you that TA is on a lot of NFL teams radar.
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Very interesting. If Sam Lewis knew Andersen was out, then I’d have to guess Hauck knew it, too. So he either didn’t believe it and game-planned for Andersen (inexplicably* even if he thought Andersen wasn’t out) or he made up the story about spending too much time preparing for Andersen out of whole cloth. MSU used 12 different players to run the ball other than Andersen the previous three games and Ifanse had just returned to very good reviews the prior game.Colter_Nuanez wrote: ↑Fri Nov 29, 2019 7:24 pmNot true. Our gambling writer Sam Lewis predicted it as the lock of the week. He had inside info that Troy Andersen was out. I have not made a public pick in a few years.seataccat wrote: ↑Fri Nov 29, 2019 7:16 pmThis really is a good topic of discussion for the off week and you hit the nail on the head about the griz fan base.
Some other satisfying gems.
On their game day thread. The first post said. " Let's get this ass beating started." Hahaha
The same guy a couple posts later predicted "48-14 good guys."
Seeing the smugness wiped off of haucks face in the presser was fun. In typical Hauck classless fashion when asked what he thought coach Choate does good to prepare his players? Instead of throwing out some flattering coach speak he said "I don't know, I don't go to their practice."
In their fan podcast they repeatedly called us Bozeman State and said that nothing about the cats scared them at all. They were smug about every win the cats had all year.
Even Colter predicted the griz to cover the 5 points they were picked by as his lock of the week.
It was a fun week for sure.
*Andersen didn’t take a lot of snaps at QB and had been banged up all year, so it’s odd that any coach would spend an abundance of time preparing for Andersen. He had just 11 carries the previous three games and took not much more than 20 snaps, if that many. Obviously you need to prep for it, but not at the expense of not spending time on what MSU was doing well, which was running the ball from multiple formations with multiple players/positions.
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Exactly. I said this right after his presser. We’ve seen lots of excuses from Hauck over the years, but this was easily the dumbest. We lost the game because we spent all week preparing for a linebacker to play quarterback. Even though he got less than 4 carries a game the last month...TomCat88 wrote: ↑Sat Nov 30, 2019 6:17 amVery interesting. If Sam Lewis knew Andersen was out, then I’d have to guess Hauck knew it, too. So he either didn’t believe it and game-planned for Andersen (inexplicably* even if he thought Andersen wasn’t out) or he made up the story about spending too much time preparing for Andersen out of whole cloth. MSU used 12 different players to run the ball other than Andersen the previous three games and Ifanse had just returned to very good reviews the prior game.Colter_Nuanez wrote: ↑Fri Nov 29, 2019 7:24 pmNot true. Our gambling writer Sam Lewis predicted it as the lock of the week. He had inside info that Troy Andersen was out. I have not made a public pick in a few years.seataccat wrote: ↑Fri Nov 29, 2019 7:16 pmThis really is a good topic of discussion for the off week and you hit the nail on the head about the griz fan base.
Some other satisfying gems.
On their game day thread. The first post said. " Let's get this ass beating started." Hahaha
The same guy a couple posts later predicted "48-14 good guys."
Seeing the smugness wiped off of haucks face in the presser was fun. In typical Hauck classless fashion when asked what he thought coach Choate does good to prepare his players? Instead of throwing out some flattering coach speak he said "I don't know, I don't go to their practice."
In their fan podcast they repeatedly called us Bozeman State and said that nothing about the cats scared them at all. They were smug about every win the cats had all year.
Even Colter predicted the griz to cover the 5 points they were picked by as his lock of the week.
It was a fun week for sure.
*Andersen didn’t take a lot of snaps at QB and had been banged up all year, so it’s odd that any coach would spend an abundance of time preparing for Andersen. He had just 11 carries the previous three games and took not much more than 20 snaps, if that many. Obviously you need to prep for it, but not at the expense of not spending time on what MSU was doing well, which was running the ball from multiple formations with multiple players/positions.
Early in the season I thought it was so weird some griz fans insisted TA was going to be our starter. Despite what coaches, media and educated fans were telling them they simply refused to believe it! Maybe Hauck had the same mindset? It was just bizarre.
On a related note, I hope all of our future opponents are dumb enough to prepare all week to defend our linebacker who might touch the ball a few times offensively.
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Re: Denial and Delusion
I just love that excuse from Hauck! "Well of course they beat us, their best player didn't play!"
Huh??
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I watched the a Grizzly Sports report last night. He said (I’m paraphrasing) that the last month took a toll on his team and while they looked fired up at the start they didn’t have much energy. He said the EW and Idaho games are big deals, Weber was a big deal because of its high ranking and PSU was a big game, because they lost to them last year.ilovethecats wrote: ↑Sat Nov 30, 2019 8:23 amExactly. I said this right after his presser. We’ve seen lots of excuses from Hauck over the years, but this was easily the dumbest. We lost the game because we spent all week preparing for a linebacker to play quarterback. Even though he got less than 4 carries a game the last month...TomCat88 wrote: ↑Sat Nov 30, 2019 6:17 amVery interesting. If Sam Lewis knew Andersen was out, then I’d have to guess Hauck knew it, too. So he either didn’t believe it and game-planned for Andersen (inexplicably* even if he thought Andersen wasn’t out) or he made up the story about spending too much time preparing for Andersen out of whole cloth. MSU used 12 different players to run the ball other than Andersen the previous three games and Ifanse had just returned to very good reviews the prior game.Colter_Nuanez wrote: ↑Fri Nov 29, 2019 7:24 pmNot true. Our gambling writer Sam Lewis predicted it as the lock of the week. He had inside info that Troy Andersen was out. I have not made a public pick in a few years.seataccat wrote: ↑Fri Nov 29, 2019 7:16 pmThis really is a good topic of discussion for the off week and you hit the nail on the head about the griz fan base.
Some other satisfying gems.
On their game day thread. The first post said. " Let's get this ass beating started." Hahaha
The same guy a couple posts later predicted "48-14 good guys."
Seeing the smugness wiped off of haucks face in the presser was fun. In typical Hauck classless fashion when asked what he thought coach Choate does good to prepare his players? Instead of throwing out some flattering coach speak he said "I don't know, I don't go to their practice."
In their fan podcast they repeatedly called us Bozeman State and said that nothing about the cats scared them at all. They were smug about every win the cats had all year.
Even Colter predicted the griz to cover the 5 points they were picked by as his lock of the week.
It was a fun week for sure.
*Andersen didn’t take a lot of snaps at QB and had been banged up all year, so it’s odd that any coach would spend an abundance of time preparing for Andersen. He had just 11 carries the previous three games and took not much more than 20 snaps, if that many. Obviously you need to prep for it, but not at the expense of not spending time on what MSU was doing well, which was running the ball from multiple formations with multiple players/positions.
Early in the season I thought it was so weird some griz fans insisted TA was going to be our starter. Despite what coaches, media and educated fans were telling them they simply refused to believe it! Maybe Hauck had the same mindset? It was just bizarre.
On a related note, I hope all of our future opponents are dumb enough to prepare all week to defend our linebacker who might touch the ball a few times offensively.
I also saw the part that Shane pointed out, ‘we got 2-3 3-and-outs in the third quarter.’ They got one.
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I can see how you would get tired after playing all these other teams and then run into an even better team that the coach got them prepared. After all this game means everything to us and they barely even have it on their calendar. It has to be soul crushing when after the first snap you realize "damn our coaches didn't even prepare us for this sh&t".TomCat88 wrote: ↑Sat Nov 30, 2019 8:36 amI watched the a Grizzly Sports report last night. He said (I’m paraphrasing) that the last month took a toll on his team and while they looked fired up at the start they didn’t have much energy. He said the EW and Idaho games are big deals, Weber was a big deal because of its high ranking and PSU was a big game, because they lost to them last year.ilovethecats wrote: ↑Sat Nov 30, 2019 8:23 amExactly. I said this right after his presser. We’ve seen lots of excuses from Hauck over the years, but this was easily the dumbest. We lost the game because we spent all week preparing for a linebacker to play quarterback. Even though he got less than 4 carries a game the last month...TomCat88 wrote: ↑Sat Nov 30, 2019 6:17 amVery interesting. If Sam Lewis knew Andersen was out, then I’d have to guess Hauck knew it, too. So he either didn’t believe it and game-planned for Andersen (inexplicably* even if he thought Andersen wasn’t out) or he made up the story about spending too much time preparing for Andersen out of whole cloth. MSU used 12 different players to run the ball other than Andersen the previous three games and Ifanse had just returned to very good reviews the prior game.Colter_Nuanez wrote: ↑Fri Nov 29, 2019 7:24 pmNot true. Our gambling writer Sam Lewis predicted it as the lock of the week. He had inside info that Troy Andersen was out. I have not made a public pick in a few years.seataccat wrote: ↑Fri Nov 29, 2019 7:16 pmThis really is a good topic of discussion for the off week and you hit the nail on the head about the griz fan base.
Some other satisfying gems.
On their game day thread. The first post said. " Let's get this ass beating started." Hahaha
The same guy a couple posts later predicted "48-14 good guys."
Seeing the smugness wiped off of haucks face in the presser was fun. In typical Hauck classless fashion when asked what he thought coach Choate does good to prepare his players? Instead of throwing out some flattering coach speak he said "I don't know, I don't go to their practice."
In their fan podcast they repeatedly called us Bozeman State and said that nothing about the cats scared them at all. They were smug about every win the cats had all year.
Even Colter predicted the griz to cover the 5 points they were picked by as his lock of the week.
It was a fun week for sure.
*Andersen didn’t take a lot of snaps at QB and had been banged up all year, so it’s odd that any coach would spend an abundance of time preparing for Andersen. He had just 11 carries the previous three games and took not much more than 20 snaps, if that many. Obviously you need to prep for it, but not at the expense of not spending time on what MSU was doing well, which was running the ball from multiple formations with multiple players/positions.
Early in the season I thought it was so weird some griz fans insisted TA was going to be our starter. Despite what coaches, media and educated fans were telling them they simply refused to believe it! Maybe Hauck had the same mindset? It was just bizarre.
On a related note, I hope all of our future opponents are dumb enough to prepare all week to defend our linebacker who might touch the ball a few times offensively.
I also saw the part that Shane pointed out, ‘we got 2-3 3-and-outs in the third quarter.’ They got one.
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Re: Denial and Delusion
Just another excuse, "We played games in November and it wore us out"TomCat88 wrote: ↑Sat Nov 30, 2019 8:36 amI watched the a Grizzly Sports report last night. He said (I’m paraphrasing) that the last month took a toll on his team and while they looked fired up at the start they didn’t have much energy. He said the EW and Idaho games are big deals, Weber was a big deal because of its high ranking and PSU was a big game, because they lost to them last year.ilovethecats wrote: ↑Sat Nov 30, 2019 8:23 amExactly. I said this right after his presser. We’ve seen lots of excuses from Hauck over the years, but this was easily the dumbest. We lost the game because we spent all week preparing for a linebacker to play quarterback. Even though he got less than 4 carries a game the last month...TomCat88 wrote: ↑Sat Nov 30, 2019 6:17 amVery interesting. If Sam Lewis knew Andersen was out, then I’d have to guess Hauck knew it, too. So he either didn’t believe it and game-planned for Andersen (inexplicably* even if he thought Andersen wasn’t out) or he made up the story about spending too much time preparing for Andersen out of whole cloth. MSU used 12 different players to run the ball other than Andersen the previous three games and Ifanse had just returned to very good reviews the prior game.Colter_Nuanez wrote: ↑Fri Nov 29, 2019 7:24 pmNot true. Our gambling writer Sam Lewis predicted it as the lock of the week. He had inside info that Troy Andersen was out. I have not made a public pick in a few years.seataccat wrote: ↑Fri Nov 29, 2019 7:16 pmThis really is a good topic of discussion for the off week and you hit the nail on the head about the griz fan base.
Some other satisfying gems.
On their game day thread. The first post said. " Let's get this ass beating started." Hahaha
The same guy a couple posts later predicted "48-14 good guys."
Seeing the smugness wiped off of haucks face in the presser was fun. In typical Hauck classless fashion when asked what he thought coach Choate does good to prepare his players? Instead of throwing out some flattering coach speak he said "I don't know, I don't go to their practice."
In their fan podcast they repeatedly called us Bozeman State and said that nothing about the cats scared them at all. They were smug about every win the cats had all year.
Even Colter predicted the griz to cover the 5 points they were picked by as his lock of the week.
It was a fun week for sure.
*Andersen didn’t take a lot of snaps at QB and had been banged up all year, so it’s odd that any coach would spend an abundance of time preparing for Andersen. He had just 11 carries the previous three games and took not much more than 20 snaps, if that many. Obviously you need to prep for it, but not at the expense of not spending time on what MSU was doing well, which was running the ball from multiple formations with multiple players/positions.
Early in the season I thought it was so weird some griz fans insisted TA was going to be our starter. Despite what coaches, media and educated fans were telling them they simply refused to believe it! Maybe Hauck had the same mindset? It was just bizarre.
On a related note, I hope all of our future opponents are dumb enough to prepare all week to defend our linebacker who might touch the ball a few times offensively.
I also saw the part that Shane pointed out, ‘we got 2-3 3-and-outs in the third quarter.’ They got one.
Nobody else played any games in November huh? After the Sac and UND losses, every game was a must win "big" game for MSU.
If your players cant get engergized to play you in state rival knowing that a win will give you a Conference Championship and a high see in the playoffs.
BH is in denial and is as delusional as the worst of their fanbase. If he is still in this mind set I am thinking that they may not be mentally prepared for the home playoff game they have, What excuse will he use if they lose that one.
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Last year, the excuse was they weren’t in shape to play all four quarters (or was it they weren’t in shape for the month of October last year?). This year I guess they’re not in shape to play a full season. The game’s they lose are uncharacteristic but the one’s they win are a testament of who they are. You could say that about any playoff team...clearly the UND game wasn’t a good sample of who we actually were, but it happened, and look what we did with it, we learned from it, made adjustments and took every team from then on out as a must win game regardless of their record. The Griz beat Weber, and what happened? They got satisfied, they thought they reached their ceiling and thought they were unbeatable, and were over looking us, and they got smacked in the mouth and got pulled back down to reality.
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I love it. As long as we’re hearing these excuses ever year it means the Cats are winning. I’m totally fine if the game means more to us than them if it means we keep winning.
Sure seems like it means more to the fans and players and former players leading UP to the game though. Just not AFTER the game.
Sure seems like it means more to the fans and players and former players leading UP to the game though. Just not AFTER the game.
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Exactly! One other observation I forgot to mention... the reffing. We ran the ball 52 times or whatever it was and didn't get one holding call? That's unheard of and just not possible, so the refs were definitely on the Cats' side.
No, Grizzlies, it's called discipline and excellent coaching. Your team got called for holding because they were getting their asses kicked on both sides of the line, and that's when you start holding.
No, Grizzlies, it's called discipline and excellent coaching. Your team got called for holding because they were getting their asses kicked on both sides of the line, and that's when you start holding.
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