Who gets the Big Sky Automatic bid?

[catatac]

The Griz were on the road. The score was ugly, but they also lost Sneed.

they were down 15-42 with 5:18 left in the 3rd quarter when he went down, I don't think that you can use that as a valid excuse

1000%. Anybody who watched that game saw it for the ass kicking that it was.

[91catAlum]

The Griz were on the road. The score was ugly, but they also lost Sneed.

they were down 15-42 with 5:18 left in the 3rd quarter when he went down, I don't think that you can use that as a valid excuse

Yep, it was basically over at halftime. Griz were down 20 points and Thomson was completing passes at will.

[coochorama42]

Fair enough. I still see it as a road loss vs. a home loss.

[Hawks86]

[TomCat88]

I think they didn't mean to have MSU in there twice on the last one. Probably just four teams. Would have to be.

[TomCat88]

More important than the autobid is being the top team from the BSC.

Since UM won last weekend, it makes for a good situation for MSU. A win would jump MSU ahead of both Weber and UM. SAC isn’t a lock vs rival Davis.

So a Bobcat win and SAC loss puts MSU in as top seeded team from the BSC. Had UM lost to Weber that wouldn’t be possible.

Weber only has one loss at the FCS level and in conference play. They play Idaho State this week who is... and I can't emphasize this enough... an absolute dumpster fire right now. Almost no chance of the Cats being the number 1 seed.

I agree ISU is a dumpster fire, I’m not so sure Weber isn’t also. They looked like the Keystone Kops on Saturday and were almost as bad the week before when they escaped with a win over UND.

Weber would get the autobid, but they need to pour one on ISU to stay ahead of MSU, if the Bobcats beat UM soundly.

No, they just need to win. Bobcats have 2 FCS loses, both in conference. Weber has 1 FCS loss. The auto bid has nothing to do with how badly you beat someone. 3 teams can finish with a BSC record 7-1. Weber, Sac State, UM, the best the Cats can so is 6-2. All 3 would have to lose and even then a myriad of tie breakers come into play, none of which favor the Cats.

Maybe, but I doubt it. MSU is just one-two spots behind Weber right now. A win over No. 3 should vault them over Weber. That's just how this stuff works with these selection committees. Both 9-3, but Weber isn't hot and MSU would be considered smoking.

[Catprint]

Hmmm.... that's what i said to start the post, with an explanation of why those are the options and in a lot more words! The tweet leaves it to everyone's imagination. I am going to breakdown all the seeding and playoff position options tomorrow in a separate post. Generally, most people understand there is some fluidity to our position if Cats beat the Griz. There are additional factors that have not been mentioned that may lead us to a seed or better seed. I agree there is almost no chance of not getting a seed if Cats beat the Griz. However, there is a possibility of getting the dreaded #8 seed which I contend is worth avoiding.

[Montanabob]

So what you're saying is:
If I play the odds, SACRAMENTO has a 50% chance of being the conference auto bid.
Weber is the safe bid.
And Montana State is the money bid to screw up DumB's chances at the autobid.

[kwcat]

I’m not so sure that Idaho State can’t beat Weber with the shape Weber is in right now .
Wouldn’t surprise me if UC Davis beat SS even with Kevin Thompson back .
Montana State wins. Ends up seeded number five
Best scenario.
If MAU does not take care of business on Saturday still a possible seed but unlikely

[cats2506]

I’m not so sure that Idaho State can’t beat Weber with the shape Weber is in right now .
Wouldn’t surprise me if UC Davis beat SS even with Kevin Thompson back .
Montana State wins. Ends up seeded number five
Best scenario.
If MAU does not take care of business on Saturday still a possible seed but unlikely

I wouldn't bet against Weber BUT
Its a rivalry game
ISU can still put up a strong passing game
Weber looks to be wounded especially in the secondary, also their Offense which has not been great, is missing people too.

[Montanabob]

So what you're saying is:
If I play the odds, SACRAMENTO has a 50% chance of being the conference auto bid.
Weber is the safe bid.
And Montana State is the money bid to screw up DumB's chances at the autobid.

One of the sites already has DumB as the BSC auto bid. So Happy when we win this weekend.

[CelticCat]

So what you're saying is:
If I play the odds, SACRAMENTO has a 50% chance of being the conference auto bid.
Weber is the safe bid.
And Montana State is the money bid to screw up DumB's chances at the autobid.

One of the sites already has DumB as the BSC auto bid. So Happy when we win this weekend.

Objectively, we are the underdogs in this game, even at home. So it doesn't surprise me that playoff prognosticators have UM as a top 4 seed.

[coochorama42]

Weber is beating ISU this weekend. This feels like when some people on this board predicted MSU losses to SUU and UNC. UM is an elite FCS team as is Weber. Weber 45-10.

[CelticCat]

Weber is beating ISU this weekend. This feels like when some people on this board predicted MSU losses to SUU and UNC. UM is an elite FCS team as is Weber. Weber 45-10.

I agree, but Weber is depleted after the Griz game. But they shouldn't need hardly any of their starters to beat a hapless ISU team, but stranger things have happened.

[BadlandsGrizFanAgain]

The Griz were on the road. The score was ugly, but they also lost Sneed.

they were down 15-42 with 5:18 left in the 3rd quarter when he went down, I don't think that you can use that as a valid excuse

Sac losses wouldnt matter....the losses that would matter are the Cats losing to UND and the Griz would be loss to a highly ranked MSU both on the road.

Cats 2 losses Sac at home and to UND.

That UND loss jacked up so many things

[cats2506]

The Griz were on the road. The score was ugly, but they also lost Sneed.

they were down 15-42 with 5:18 left in the 3rd quarter when he went down, I don't think that you can use that as a valid excuse

Sac losses wouldnt matter....the losses that would matter are the Cats losing to UND and the Griz would be loss to a highly ranked MSU both on the road.

Cats 2 losses Sac at home and to UND.

That UND loss jacked up so many things

The OP was that um's loss to SAC was not as bad as MSU's loss to SAC

[coochorama42]

I did say that losing to Sac State at home is worse than losing to them on the road, but I do think that the UND loss (for MSU) and MSU loss (for UM) in this case would be the more problematic. That being said, I'm confident now that the Cats get a seed no matter what. Like @Catprint though, I'm not sure this is a good thing if it's an #8 seed...

[BadlandsGrizFanAgain]

I did say that losing to Sac State at home is worse than losing to them on the road, but I do think that the UND loss (for MSU) and MSU loss (for UM) in this case would be the more problematic. That being said, I'm confident now that the Cats get a seed no matter what. Like @Catprint though, I'm not sure this is a good thing if it's an #8 seed...

You think the Cats get a seed if they lose to the Griz? Im not so sure on that.

[91catAlum]

I did say that losing to Sac State at home is worse than losing to them on the road, but I do think that the UND loss (for MSU) and MSU loss (for UM) in this case would be the more problematic. That being said, I'm confident now that the Cats get a seed no matter what. Like @Catprint though, I'm not sure this is a good thing if it's an #8 seed...

You think the Cats get a seed if they lose to the Griz? Im not so sure on that.

I agree it's extremely unlikely. If MSU lost a close one to the griz, and several teams in that 5-8 range lost big, or to bad teams, then I guess maybe it could happen.

[coochorama42]

@BadlandsGrizFanAgain @91catAlum Sorry guys. This is a little out of context. Earlier in the thread I'd indicated that I wasn't sure that Cats were 100% sure to get a seed if they beat the Grizzlies. I was responding to that. Even though Sam Herder seems to think there is a small chance the Cats get a seed if they lose to UM (Villanova, Wofford, and Illinois State would have to lose as well and MSU/UM would have to be close), I don't think so.