Time for a change
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Re: Time for a change
Crazy how we can all watch the same game and see completely different things. It’s not often that a defense can hold a team to 10 points and get called out for how bad they are.
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Re: Time for a change
I’m not off the Choate bandwagon yet but I’m wavering. For the first time, I feel like we are trending the wrong direction and no matter how much I’ve backed a coach I won’t follow them into accepting failure.
Choate says all the right things but we need actions and not just words.
Time for Choate to buckle down and do some self evaluation. What we are doing isn’t working so we need to mix it up.
In fairness, it’s not like UND sucks but scoring only one offensive TD sure does.
Choate says all the right things but we need actions and not just words.
Time for Choate to buckle down and do some self evaluation. What we are doing isn’t working so we need to mix it up.
In fairness, it’s not like UND sucks but scoring only one offensive TD sure does.
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The defense gave up 10 points and you want to fire the DC?GoCats18 wrote: ↑Sat Oct 26, 2019 2:40 pmI would take Gregorak back....maybe even as head coach at this point. We put all our money on Ioane learning a system and clearly he didn’t. Same ****** as last time. Starting to feel like Ash all over again. Good thing we got three wins over UM, because we are going to be a bottom of the pack team for years to come.
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Well those people are wrong. Sure, the defense could have played better at times but they aren't remotely the reason we lost.ilovethecats wrote: ↑Sat Oct 26, 2019 2:48 pmCrazy how we can all watch the same game and see completely different things. It’s not often that a defense can hold a team to 10 points and get called out for how bad they are.
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Re: Time for a change
Has Choate improved this team from 2014? Nope.utucats wrote: ↑Sat Oct 26, 2019 2:51 pmI’m not off the Choate bandwagon yet but I’m wavering. For the first time, I feel like we are trending the wrong direction and no matter how much I’ve backed a coach I won’t follow them into accepting failure.
Choate says all the right things but we need actions and not just words.
Time for Choate to buckle down and do some self evaluation. What we are doing isn’t working so we need to mix it up.
In fairness, it’s not like UND sucks but scoring only one offensive TD sure does.
If your baseline is the 2015 team that got a coach fired (with good reason, I might add), yep.
We are exactly the same one and done playoff team that we were for a generation under Kramer and Ash.
But, hey, the culture sure has changed!
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Re: Time for a change
A program is in trouble when the time to prepare (2) exceeds touchdowns scored (1). Micromanagement of Choate and poor QB play says 7-5 or 8-4 if we are lucky.
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This team should never lose a game where the defense only gives up 10 points. When that happens coming off a bye week there are major problems.utucats wrote: ↑Sat Oct 26, 2019 2:51 pmI’m not off the Choate bandwagon yet but I’m wavering. For the first time, I feel like we are trending the wrong direction and no matter how much I’ve backed a coach I won’t follow them into accepting failure.
Choate says all the right things but we need actions and not just words.
Time for Choate to buckle down and do some self evaluation. What we are doing isn’t working so we need to mix it up.
In fairness, it’s not like UND sucks but scoring only one offensive TD sure does.
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There are some real gems on here after a tough loss but this is really a pearl of wisdom here folks. The answer to our woes as bobcats is just hiring republicans... Hahaha!superbobcat wrote: ↑Sat Oct 26, 2019 1:54 pmSome of you guys are like the media and Democrats, you throw crap at the wall and see if it sticks. Maybe you are Democrats and media as you do it well.
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Re: Time for a change
This team has played flat the last two games. They stopped caring. That’s on the coaching staff. All of them
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Re: Time for a change
In fairness, this was obvious to anyone who understands football.
This has been a BAD team on the road for almost 2 solid years. Too many Cat fans have been making exususe like "Its really tough to play at 0-7 Western Illinios" and "It was super hot in Lubbock" and "Well, NDSU is really good" and "Cal Poly runs a gimmick offense".
When you have to make excuses for road games week in and week out. When you struggle winning against bad teams on the road...Wehn you don't even show up against the good teams...
It should be obvious that you are going to lose games to .500 teams almost every time.
This game is EXACTLY like every other road game that the Cats have played for the last 2 seasons (except for 1 quarter against UM)
This has been a BAD team on the road for almost 2 solid years. Too many Cat fans have been making exususe like "Its really tough to play at 0-7 Western Illinios" and "It was super hot in Lubbock" and "Well, NDSU is really good" and "Cal Poly runs a gimmick offense".
When you have to make excuses for road games week in and week out. When you struggle winning against bad teams on the road...Wehn you don't even show up against the good teams...
It should be obvious that you are going to lose games to .500 teams almost every time.
This game is EXACTLY like every other road game that the Cats have played for the last 2 seasons (except for 1 quarter against UM)
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No, this is par for the course for the last 2 seasons. They've played flat on the road for 2 years.
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Cmon. This is a little harsh. To think these young men don't care is a bit much, dontcha think?
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Re: Time for a change
This is about where I’m at. I’ve been a huge fan of a Choate, and still support him, but clearly there are some pretty big problems and something needs to change. I still think he’s going to figure it out, but not sure if it will be in time to save this season.utucats wrote: ↑Sat Oct 26, 2019 2:51 pmI’m not off the Choate bandwagon yet but I’m wavering. For the first time, I feel like we are trending the wrong direction and no matter how much I’ve backed a coach I won’t follow them into accepting failure.
Choate says all the right things but we need actions and not just words.
Time for Choate to buckle down and do some self evaluation. What we are doing isn’t working so we need to mix it up.
In fairness, it’s not like UND sucks but scoring only one offensive TD sure does.
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I don't know what is the cause but yes something needs to change. We have 1 play go the other way and we leave with a win. We should have dominated a depleted defensive front and we just looked flat on so many occasions. Seems like this team has lost all confidence the last 3 games and have been playing not to lose.
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If you are calling out Ioane and the D you are really off your rocker. 10 points given up, 316 yards given up. Including 220 through the air to a guy averaging close to 300 a game. 4 sacks as well and another great game against the run.
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In fairness, they dropped 2 pick 6es and fumbled inside the red zone. Its not like all the breaks miraculously went against the Cats.technoCat wrote: ↑Sat Oct 26, 2019 3:07 pmI don't know what is the cause but yes something needs to change. We have 1 play go the other way and we leave with a win. We should have dominated a depleted defensive front and we just looked flat on so many occasions. Seems like this team has lost all confidence the last 3 games and have been playing not to lose.
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Re: Time for a change
The issue I see with this staff, and this is probably a Choate issue, why can we not recruit a QB? Keeping an eye on the Griz today starting their backup QB, Cam Humphrey. EWU has issues this year, but 34 - 17 Griz. That does not look like a backup QB. That looks dominate. Why do the Griz have this guy as a backup QB yet we cannot recruit a solid one as a starter? what is wrong with Choate's recruiting?
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Re: Time for a change
These annual Bobcat mid-season Meltdown threads are always extremely entertaining
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Re: Time for a change
Lets not forget that there is no answer for the "Run it down their throats" philosophy when the OL cannot man handle tge opposing DL's, which is a rather elementary principle.1984champ wrote: ↑Sat Oct 26, 2019 2:05 pmRovig wasn’t good but coaching was worse. The common denominator is the coaches and the offensive philosophy. Insert ________ at QB and we probably get a similar result. We will see what Choate does but we are the same type of situation as Ash/Marshal with Choate/Miller. Choate needs to focus on the D and ST and let an experienced OC run his own offense.
Edit: In the cases when the OL cannot manhandle the opposing DL, we need Better Than Average QB play - someone who can read more than a dumbed down "either or" progression, make every pass on the field, and lets not forget can get out of trouble or extend the play with his feet.
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Re: Time for a change
Someone needs a nap.seataccat wrote: ↑Sat Oct 26, 2019 2:57 pmThere are some real gems on here after a tough loss but this is really a pearl of wisdom here folks. The answer to our woes as bobcats is just hiring republicans... Hahaha!superbobcat wrote: ↑Sat Oct 26, 2019 1:54 pmSome of you guys are like the media and Democrats, you throw crap at the wall and see if it sticks. Maybe you are Democrats and media as you do it well.
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