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Re: Sagarin Rankings

Post by catgrad05 » Sun Oct 20, 2019 7:39 pm

How the bleep is dUMb still 4th in the FCS?



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Re: Sagarin Rankings

Post by Montanabob » Sun Oct 20, 2019 7:51 pm

Catsrgrood wrote:
Sun Oct 20, 2019 5:37 pm
Cats up 4 spots in the overall to 130th and 14th in the FCS.

Texas Tech- 47th overall, 46th in FBS (NDSU is 39th overall)
SEMO-164th overall and 39th in FCS
WIU- 215th overall and 86th in FCS
Norfolk State- 233rd overall and 93rd in FCS

Big Sky (opponents in bold):

UM-87th overall, 4th in FCS
Sac St- 100th overall, 5th in FCS
Weber-112th overall, 7th in FCS
EWU- 128th overall, 12th in FCS
UC Davis- 129th overall, 13th in FCS
MSU- 130th overall,14th in FCS
Idaho State- 137th overall, 20th in FCS
North Dakota- 149th overall, 29th in FCS
Portland State- 150th overall, 30th in FCS
Idaho- 152nd overall, 32nd in FCS
NAU- 166th overall, 41st in FCS
Cal Poly- 176th overall, 49th in FCS
Southern Utah- 196th overall, 67th in FCS
Northern Colorado- 201st overall, 72nd in FCS

http://sagarin.com/sports/cfsend.htm
Based on this poll, we get 7 in the playoffs.


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Re: Sagarin Rankings

Post by technoCat » Sun Oct 20, 2019 8:26 pm

Seems like losing all your games is the best way to move up....


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Re: Sagarin Rankings

Post by onceacat » Sun Oct 20, 2019 9:50 pm

catgrad05 wrote:
Sun Oct 20, 2019 7:39 pm
How the bleep is dUMb still 4th in the FCS?
It’s based on a computer algorithm. Teams basically start where last season ended up, so Sac had a HUGE hole to dig out of. Plus, it’s cumulative, so you never see big swings week to week. It takes a while for the computers to spot stories like Sac. Also, stories like UCD and EWU.



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Re: Sagarin Rankings

Post by Catsrgrood » Sun Oct 20, 2019 10:04 pm

onceacat wrote:
Sun Oct 20, 2019 9:50 pm
catgrad05 wrote:
Sun Oct 20, 2019 7:39 pm
How the bleep is dUMb still 4th in the FCS?
Its based on a computer algorithm. Teams basically start where last season ended up, so Sac had a HUGE hole to dig out of. Plus, it’s cumulative, so you never see big swings week to week. It takes a while for the computers to spot stories like Sac. Also, stories like UCD and EWU.
And if a team that a um beat goes on and continues to win In later weeks, that initial win looks better and better.
So in this case I believe the majority of teams the griz have already played this season also won this weekend, effectively helping the griz rating as well.



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Re: Sagarin Rankings

Post by Catprint » Sun Oct 20, 2019 11:29 pm

Catsrgrood wrote:
Sun Oct 20, 2019 10:04 pm
onceacat wrote:
Sun Oct 20, 2019 9:50 pm
catgrad05 wrote:
Sun Oct 20, 2019 7:39 pm
How the bleep is dUMb still 4th in the FCS?
Its based on a computer algorithm. Teams basically start where last season ended up, so Sac had a HUGE hole to dig out of. Plus, it’s cumulative, so you never see big swings week to week. It takes a while for the computers to spot stories like Sac. Also, stories like UCD and EWU.
And if a team that a um beat goes on and continues to win In later weeks, that initial win looks better and better.
So in this case I believe the majority of teams the griz have already played this season also won this weekend, effectively helping the griz rating as well.
The ranking and the strength of schedule ONLY include DI games. So Sac's State's game against Southern Oregon (77-19) does NOT count which means they have one less game to go into the algorithm. Here is quote from Sagarin: "In COLLEGE FOOTBALL the W-L records include ALL games, but ONLY games between the 256 TEAMS RATED here are used for RATING and SCHEDULE STRENGTH computations." This means Sac State has one less win and game in the mix. They will pull ahead if they keep winning because their SOS is quite a bit better than UM or MSU (Sac - 113; UM - 133; MSU - 165). Whether you believe Sagarin's SOS algorithm or not, it is part of the formula for the rank.



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Re: Sagarin Rankings

Post by StatedImprovement » Sat Oct 26, 2019 1:43 pm

91catAlum wrote:
Sun Oct 20, 2019 6:56 pm
StatedImprovement wrote:
Tue Oct 15, 2019 6:58 pm
grizpsych wrote:
Tue Oct 15, 2019 6:22 pm
luckyirishguy25 wrote:
Sat Oct 05, 2019 2:13 pm
The Griz are getting their S... pushed back in by the Bungles 17-7
Update?
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Re: Sagarin Rankings

Post by 91catAlum » Sat Oct 26, 2019 2:18 pm

StatedImprovement wrote:
Sat Oct 26, 2019 1:43 pm
91catAlum wrote:
Sun Oct 20, 2019 6:56 pm
StatedImprovement wrote:
Tue Oct 15, 2019 6:58 pm
grizpsych wrote:
Tue Oct 15, 2019 6:22 pm
luckyirishguy25 wrote:
Sat Oct 05, 2019 2:13 pm
The Griz are getting their S... pushed back in by the Bungles 17-7
Update?
the best 15 minutes Cat fans have experienced all season
\:D/
Not anymore...
:coffee:
Oops .... 😉
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Re: Sagarin Rankings

Post by BozoneCat » Sat Oct 26, 2019 2:33 pm

91catAlum wrote:
Sat Oct 26, 2019 2:18 pm
StatedImprovement wrote:
Sat Oct 26, 2019 1:43 pm
91catAlum wrote:
Sun Oct 20, 2019 6:56 pm
StatedImprovement wrote:
Tue Oct 15, 2019 6:58 pm
grizpsych wrote:
Tue Oct 15, 2019 6:22 pm
luckyirishguy25 wrote:
Sat Oct 05, 2019 2:13 pm
The Griz are getting their S... pushed back in by the Bungles 17-7
Update?
the best 15 minutes Cat fans have experienced all season
\:D/
Not anymore...
:coffee:
Oops .... 😉
Why are you on bobcat nation in the middle of a griz game?? Loser! Lol!
And no idea why this moron hasn’t been banned? @kmax @rtb


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Re: Sagarin Rankings

Post by Catsrgrood » Mon Oct 28, 2019 8:03 pm

This isn’t quite as fun to track when the Cats lose 2 straight...
oh well, here it is;

Cats down 3 spots in the overall to 133rd and 18th in the FCS.

Texas Tech- 52nd overall, 51st in FBS (NDSU is 37th overall)
SEMO- 149th overall and 29th in FCS
WIU- 217th overall and 88th in FCS
Norfolk State- 233rd overall and 103rd in FCS

Big Sky (opponents in bold):

UM-96th overall, 4th in FCS
Sac St- 102nd overall, 5th in FCS
Weber-106th overall, 6th in FCS
EWU- 127th overall, 12th in FCS
UC Davis- 128th overall, 13th in FCS
MSU- 133rd overall,18th in FCS
North Dakota- 147th overall, 27th in FCS
Idaho- 152nd overall, 32nd in FCS
Portland State- 159th overall, 38th in FCS
Idaho State- 160th overall, 39th in FCS
NAU- 163rd overall, 40th in FCS
Cal Poly- 182nd overall, 55th in FCS
Southern Utah- 184th overall, 57th in FCS
Northern Colorado- 205th overall, 76th in FCS

http://sagarin.com/sports/cfsend.htm



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Re: Sagarin Rankings

Post by Catsrgrood » Sun Nov 03, 2019 10:25 am

Cats up 6 spots in the overall to 127th and 13th in the FCS.

Texas Tech- 55th overall, 54th in FBS (NDSU is 37th overall)
SEMO- 151st overall and 31st in FCS
WIU- 206th overall and 77th in FCS
Norfolk State- 230th overall and 100th in FCS

Big Sky (opponents in bold):

Weber-95th overall, 4th in FCS
UM- 97th overall, 5th in FCS
Sac St- 110th overall, 8th in FCS
EWU- 123rd overall, 10th in FCS
MSU- 127th overall, 13th in FCS
UC Davis- 130th overall, 14th in FCS
Idaho- 148th overall, 28th in FCS
North Dakota- 150th overall, 30th in FCS
Portland State- 161st overall, 39th in FCS
NAU- 172nd overall, 46th in FCS
Idaho State- 175th overall, 49th in FCS
Cal Poly- 179th overall, 52nd in FCS
Southern Utah- 189th overall, 62nd in FCS
Northern Colorado- 196th overall, 68th in FCS

http://sagarin.com/sports/cfsend.htm



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Re: Sagarin Rankings

Post by Catsrgrood » Sun Nov 03, 2019 10:37 am

I realize that the playoff field isn’t picked from these rankings, but it’s interesting to see both EWU and UCD so high in these rankings with 5 losses right now. In theory, they could both win out and be in the top 10 in the Sagarin Rankings and be at home watching the playoffs.
I don’t see either one getting in at 7-5, although UCD would probably have the best shot, if they won out that would mean back to back wins against MSU and Sac St to finish the season.



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Re: Sagarin Rankings

Post by Hawks86 » Sun Nov 03, 2019 10:42 am

FCS selection committee rankings come out Wednesday night.


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Re: Sagarin Rankings

Post by Catsrgrood » Sun Nov 10, 2019 1:18 pm

Cats up 4 spots in the overall to 123rd and 11th in the FCS.

Texas Tech- 42nd overall, 41st in FBS (NDSU is 39th overall)
SEMO- 142nd overall and 23rd in FCS
WIU- 207th overall and 79th in FCS
Norfolk State- 224th overall and 95th in FCS

Big Sky (opponents in bold):

UM- 87th overall, 3rd in FCS
Weber-90th overall, 4th in FCS
Sac St- 105th overall,7th in FCS
EWU- 121st overall, 10th in FCS
MSU- 123rd overall, 11th in FCS
UC Davis- 126th overall, 13th in FCS
North Dakota- 145th overall, 26th in FCS
Idaho- 151st overall, 30th in FCS
NAU- 167th overall, 44th in FCS
Portland State- 168th overall, 45th in FCS
Cal Poly- 181st overall, 54th in FCS
Idaho State- 187th overall, 60th in FCS
Southern Utah- 189th overall, 61st in FCS
Northern Colorado- 201st overall, 73rd in FCS

http://sagarin.com/sports/cfsend.htm



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Re: Sagarin Rankings

Post by Catsrgrood » Sun Nov 17, 2019 11:16 am

Cats up 5 spots in the overall to 118th and 9th in the FCS.

Texas Tech- 45th overall, 44th in FBS (NDSU is 35th overall)
SEMO- 142nd overall and 24th in FCS
WIU- 208th overall and 80th in FCS
Norfolk State- 216th overall and 87th in FCS

Big Sky (opponents in bold):

UM- 81st overall, 4th in FCS
Weber-101st overall, 5th in FCS
Sac St- 102nd overall, 6th in FCS
MSU- 118th overall, 9th in FCS
EWU- 122nd overall, 12th in FCS
UC Davis- 136th overall, 19th in FCS
North Dakota- 148th overall, 29th in FCS
Idaho- 159th overall, 37th in FCS
Portland State- 172nd overall, 46th in FCS
NAU- 177th overall, 50th in FCS
Cal Poly- 181st overall, 54th in FCS
Southern Utah- 188th overall, 61st in FCS
Idaho State- 189th overall, 62nd in FCS
Northern Colorado- 202nd overall, 74th in FCS

http://sagarin.com/sports/cfsend.htm



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Re: Sagarin Rankings

Post by RockyBearCat » Sun Nov 17, 2019 2:33 pm

Thanks Catsrgood. Appreciate you taking the time to update these



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Re: Sagarin Rankings

Post by Catsrgrood » Sun Nov 24, 2019 9:34 am

Final regular season rankings.

Cats with a big jump, up 18 spots in the overall to 100th and 7th in the FCS.

Texas Tech- 45th overall, 44th in FBS (NDSU is 38th overall)
SEMO- 151st overall and 32nd in FCS
WIU- 213th overall and 84th in FCS
Norfolk State- 223rd overall and 94th in FCS

Big Sky (opponents in bold):

UM- 95th overall, 4th in FCS
Weber-96th overall, 5th in FCS
Sac St- 97th overall, 6th in FCS
MSU- 100th overall, 7th in FCS
EWU- 123rd overall, 11th in FCS
UC Davis- 133rd overall, 16th in FCS
North Dakota- 147th overall, 28th in FCS
Idaho- 157th overall, 36th in FCS
Portland State- 170th overall, 45th in FCS
Cal Poly- 175th overall, 50th in FCS
NAU- 180th overall, 53rd in FCS
Southern Utah- 187th overall, 60th in FCS
Idaho State- 189th overall, 62nd in FCS
Northern Colorado- 204th overall, 76th in FCS

http://sagarin.com/sports/cfsend.htm



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Re: Sagarin Rankings

Post by Catsrgrood » Sun Nov 24, 2019 9:41 am

If the playoffs were picked via the Sagarin Rankings, this is what they’d look like.
It’ll be interesting to see how reality matches up with this:

The Seeds:
1. NDSU
2. JMU
3. South Dakota State
4. UM
5. Weber
6. Sac St
7. MSU
8. Northern Iowa

The rest, in order:
Eastern Washington
Wofford
Villanova
Towson
Southern Illinois
UC Davis
SE Louisiana
Furman
Illinois St
Monmouth
New Hampshire
South Dakota
Nicholls State
Austin Peay
Albany
Maine

It’s really interesting to see EWU so high here. They’re officially on the bubble, and most assume they’re not in (myself included), but they could be a surprise 5th Big Sky team.



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Re: Sagarin Rankings

Post by John K » Sun Nov 24, 2019 9:53 am

I can't imagine that they'd award 4 of the 8 seeds to BSC teams, even if they're legitimately deserving of that many (and I think they may be). I could see them getting 3 seeds though, with UM the odd man out. I think Sac and WSU are deserving of being seeded ahead of us, since they tied for the title, and Sac beat us easily. If they give the BSC a 3rd seed, we'd have to get the nod over UM, after the beatdown we gave them yesterday. I believe the BSC got 3 seeds last year...right?



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Re: Sagarin Rankings

Post by ghobs95 » Sun Nov 24, 2019 10:39 am

John K wrote:
Sun Nov 24, 2019 9:53 am
I can't imagine that they'd award 4 of the 8 seeds to BSC teams, even if they're legitimately deserving of that many (and I think they may be). I could see them getting 3 seeds though, with UM the odd man out. I think Sac and WSU are deserving of being seeded ahead of us, since they tied for the title, and Sac beat us easily. If they give the BSC a 3rd seed, we'd have to get the nod over UM, after the beatdown we gave them yesterday. I believe the BSC got 3 seeds last year...right?
I'd say there's almost no way the Big Sky doesn't get 4 seeds today, especially after the carnage yesterday. If SDSU and ISU and others hadn't lost then maybe, but don't think they have 8 teams to reasonably put in front of UM.



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