Re: BOOM
Posted: Fri Jul 05, 2019 12:36 pm
So who’s better Rostad or Robison?
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I thought you would blame it on Hawks86 for not putting Robison in the subject line!VimSince03 wrote: ↑Fri Jul 05, 2019 12:09 pmWhoops...apologies to GRADY.bobcat99 wrote: ↑Fri Jul 05, 2019 12:06 pmHey Vim, Shane graduated a few years ago.VimSince03 wrote: ↑Fri Jul 05, 2019 11:04 amHas TA's speed (nice catch Cataholic) but Troy is just built differently as a QB and athlete (Troy is a natural OLB body-type). I've never seen a Montana kid be able to put his foot in the ground and accelerate north/south like Troy. It appears Shane has a little more wiggle and playing style similar to Dakota who I also thought of immediately while watching the film.
Give me full game tape and a week, and maybe I could give an answer. There's so many variables, in level of competition, level of teammates, eventual playing scheme.
Has TA's speed (nice catch Cataholic) but Troy is just built differently as a QB and athlete (Troy is a natural OLB body-type). I've never seen a Montana kid be able to put his foot in the ground and accelerate north/south like Troy. It appears Shane has a little more wiggle and playing style similar to Dakota who I also thought of immediately while watching the film.Cataholic wrote: ↑Fri Jul 05, 2019 11:57 am[quote=VimSince03 post_id=665903 time=<a href="tel:1562346280">1562346280</a> user_id=21619]
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Reminds me of Dakota Prukop.
Fits Matt Miller's offense perfectly.
No offense Cataholic, but his film doesn't resemble TA's at all. Better passer, more wiggle to his run game, not near as much power/strength.
Awesome pickup! Kid looks like a good QB.
Not if his name is ROBISON (without the N)Montanabob wrote: ↑Fri Jul 05, 2019 7:26 pmNope these Robinson's.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lost_in_Space
He’ll stick. It’s incredibly rare when someone doesn’t stick. Of all the recruits MSU has brought in since 2005, less than 3% have flipped. Off the top of my head, I don’t recall a QB that has ever de-committed from MSU or UM.
91catAlum wrote: ↑Sat Jul 06, 2019 12:23 pmYep, that should jinx it.
Haha, I was just kidding.. I agree with you, there's no reason to worry that he won't stick, especially 5 minutes after he commits.TomCat88 wrote: ↑Sat Jul 06, 2019 12:59 pm91catAlum wrote: ↑Sat Jul 06, 2019 12:23 pmYep, that should jinx it.
Actually I just get tired of people saying that every time someone they perceive to be good commits. Of all the people that have de-committed from MSU, can you name a few that kicked ass elsewhere? Usually when someone de-commits it’s an extenuating circumstance and not because they suddenly became too good for MSU or whatever school they originally committed to.
If I had the power to jinx things, I would know by now and I’d be out solving all the worlds problems. But you be sure to bookmark this and if it happens we can discuss my role.
In all honestly I used to think Choate and company couldn't make up their mind too but that is changing. All of their QB recruits thus far are either a) Pro style (Bruggman, Rovig, Bauman) or dual threat hopefuls (Murray, Johnson, Beltran, and now Robison). Choate only needs a pro style QB to run the offense but why not get a dual threat if you can - makes perfect sense to me any more. There does seem to be a wave/trend of college ball going toward dual-threat QB's.CelticCat wrote: ↑Fri Jul 05, 2019 11:36 amFair enough, I'll admit these days with what we've done at QB, whenever I see a QB recruit who can run the ball I assume he can't pass that well. I guess I'm jaded after Murray & Andersen at QB.catatac wrote: ↑Fri Jul 05, 2019 11:31 amNot sure I agree with that statement. If memory serves, I think the staff has always been clear about what they want in a QB. Needs to have a high football IQ so they make the right reads and know where to go with the ball, can deliver it accurately and on time, and of course can command the huddle and have the confidence of their team mates. Anything beyond that, rocket arm, can run, etc... would just be a bonus IMO.
Yeah, I see the footwork and "wind-up" delivery. But sometimes that's how the boat floats. I'd be careful with this kid. His arm speed is amazing and if he's delivers the ball on-time and on-target, I'd leave him be. You see an amazing array of deliveries in the NFL. A few are text book, most not.RobertCats wrote: ↑Fri Jul 05, 2019 10:58 amHave no inside info, but I would have to think this kid is going to stay @ QB. I REALLY liked his tape, he is an athlete and can break the big run for sure but he has a pretty good arm and throws a nice ball.
https://t.co/cmjQRZ77qF -Junior year highlights
Definitely has some mechanics to clean up, but a few of his throws were off his back foot or with very little hip rotation/weight transfer and he still put some zip behind it which IMO shows he has some good arm strength (music to the "QB-needs-arm-strength" crowd's ears). He can push the ball downfield with just the flick of the wrist, when he gets some training from a college level QB coach and irons out some of his mechanics he has the potential to be VERY good.
He's halfway through his summer before SR year, and the larger schools aren't recruiting him. Most schools, especially P5, have their QB board established by now. Summer camps are huge for QB's, so that he isn't getting those offers is telling. Just like with Jaharie, some schools have pretty strict size thresholds.
Definitely needs footwork help, but I agree with you.Mr Lisle wrote: ↑Sat Jul 06, 2019 2:22 pmYeah, I see the footwork and "wind-up" delivery. But sometimes that's how the boat floats. I'd be careful with this kid. His arm speed is amazing and if he's delivers the ball on-time and on-target, I'd leave him be. You see an amazing array of deliveries in the NFL. A few are text book, most not.RobertCats wrote: ↑Fri Jul 05, 2019 10:58 amHave no inside info, but I would have to think this kid is going to stay @ QB. I REALLY liked his tape, he is an athlete and can break the big run for sure but he has a pretty good arm and throws a nice ball.
https://t.co/cmjQRZ77qF -Junior year highlights
Definitely has some mechanics to clean up, but a few of his throws were off his back foot or with very little hip rotation/weight transfer and he still put some zip behind it which IMO shows he has some good arm strength (music to the "QB-needs-arm-strength" crowd's ears). He can push the ball downfield with just the flick of the wrist, when he gets some training from a college level QB coach and irons out some of his mechanics he has the potential to be VERY good.
I can see the footwork being cleaned up and this should be relatively easy.
That's good to hear. I'm not all that well versed in the recruiting world at this level.bobcat99 wrote: ↑Sat Jul 06, 2019 2:59 pmHe's halfway through his summer before SR year, and the larger schools aren't recruiting him. Most schools, especially P5, have their QB board established by now. Summer camps are huge for QB's, so that he isn't getting those offers is telling. Just like with Jaharie, some schools have pretty strict size thresholds.
He might get a couple offers, or interest late in his season, but he'll stick. Rovig was about the same recruiting wise. Got interest from bigger schools late in the game, but he wanted to stick with MSU. Pretty common for QB's at this level.