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Re: Bobcats by the Numbers 2019

Post by BleedingBLue » Wed Aug 07, 2019 4:38 pm

I think 30 sacks is a very achievable goal. Especially if we play 13 or 14 games. There are a number of guys that could get 5+



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Re: Bobcats by the Numbers 2019

Post by Cledus » Wed Aug 07, 2019 7:59 pm

Bobcat4Ever wrote:
Wed Aug 07, 2019 4:17 pm
Thanks for doing this. Love numbers and charts. 2011 was notable in that the highest sack rate paired with the least plays defended per game, which indicates that the sacks were helping to get the defense off the field on third down — which totally makes sense. We've had less sacks lately and have struggled on third down. So bring 'em on. Let the big ‘Cats eat.
My pleasure. Me when I find out people do this for a living:

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I would think that turnovers have some influence on this number. Back in 2011, maybe we had some turnovers against offenses that try to grind down the clock. Without examining play-by-play data it's impossible to know if the sacks are coming from defensive strength / weakness, opponents' offensive proficiency (or lack of), turnovers, anything else, etc.

But I do think it's a nice birds eye view that gives us an idea of what's going on and where we need to go. Even with only three data points under Choate, there appears to be an inverse correlation between plays run per sack and wins. I think if we can get that number under 30 we'll be at or very near the top of the standings.



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Re: Bobcats by the Numbers 2019

Post by Rich K » Thu Aug 08, 2019 1:35 pm

While we're still on the topic of sacks.....
From today's by the numbers

23 – Sacks by Mark Fellows in 1984


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Re: Bobcats by the Numbers 2019

Post by mslacatfan » Thu Aug 08, 2019 2:10 pm

Rich K wrote:
Thu Aug 08, 2019 1:35 pm
While we're still on the topic of sacks.....
From today's by the numbers

23 – Sacks by Mark Fellows in 1984

Which does NOT include the 7 sacks he had that year in the playoffs.... so 30 sacks in one season.... holy crap!!!


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Re: Bobcats by the Numbers 2019

Post by AFCAT » Thu Aug 08, 2019 2:34 pm

mslacatfan wrote:
Thu Aug 08, 2019 2:10 pm
Rich K wrote:
Thu Aug 08, 2019 1:35 pm
While we're still on the topic of sacks.....
From today's by the numbers

23 – Sacks by Mark Fellows in 1984

Which does NOT include the 7 sacks he had that year in the playoffs.... so 30 sacks in one season.... holy crap!!!
He used to grab guys and then do a spin move and just drill them into the ground.

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Re: Bobcats by the Numbers 2019

Post by mslacatfan » Thu Aug 08, 2019 2:46 pm

AFCAT wrote:
Thu Aug 08, 2019 2:34 pm
mslacatfan wrote:
Thu Aug 08, 2019 2:10 pm
Rich K wrote:
Thu Aug 08, 2019 1:35 pm
While we're still on the topic of sacks.....
From today's by the numbers

23 – Sacks by Mark Fellows in 1984

Which does NOT include the 7 sacks he had that year in the playoffs.... so 30 sacks in one season.... holy crap!!!
He used to grab guys and then do a spin move and just drill them into the ground.

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Did the QB in that picture die?... It looks like he is being mauled by a grizzly bear for Christ sake.


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Re: Bobcats by the Numbers 2019

Post by AFCAT » Thu Aug 08, 2019 2:50 pm

mslacatfan wrote:
Thu Aug 08, 2019 2:46 pm
AFCAT wrote:
Thu Aug 08, 2019 2:34 pm
mslacatfan wrote:
Thu Aug 08, 2019 2:10 pm
Rich K wrote:
Thu Aug 08, 2019 1:35 pm
While we're still on the topic of sacks.....
From today's by the numbers

23 – Sacks by Mark Fellows in 1984

Which does NOT include the 7 sacks he had that year in the playoffs.... so 30 sacks in one season.... holy crap!!!
He used to grab guys and then do a spin move and just drill them into the ground.

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Did the QB in that picture die?... It looks like he is being mauled by a grizzly bear for Christ sake.
He is getting mauled by a big Bobcat.


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Post by AFCAT » Thu Aug 08, 2019 3:56 pm

Here is an example of one of his sacks that year. He did this spin thing a lot.

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Re: Bobcats by the Numbers 2019

Post by Cledus » Thu Aug 08, 2019 4:05 pm

AFCAT wrote:
Thu Aug 08, 2019 2:34 pm
He used to grab guys and then do a spin move and just drill them into the ground.
You know you're in trouble when the guy sacking you is getting his hips and back into it. This is that form only guys from Montana have, which comes from scraping the sh-- out of your windshield on icy mornings.



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Re: Bobcats by the Numbers 2019

Post by catatac » Thu Aug 08, 2019 4:53 pm

AFCAT wrote:
Thu Aug 08, 2019 3:56 pm
Here is an example of one of his sacks that year. He did this spin thing a lot.

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Today that tackle would be a flag.


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Re: Bobcats by the Numbers 2019

Post by allcat » Thu Aug 08, 2019 5:13 pm

catatac wrote:
Thu Aug 08, 2019 4:53 pm
AFCAT wrote:
Thu Aug 08, 2019 3:56 pm
Here is an example of one of his sacks that year. He did this spin thing a lot.

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Today that tackle would be a flag.
why?


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Re: Bobcats by the Numbers 2019

Post by 91catAlum » Thu Aug 08, 2019 5:22 pm

allcat wrote:
Thu Aug 08, 2019 5:13 pm
catatac wrote:
Thu Aug 08, 2019 4:53 pm
AFCAT wrote:
Thu Aug 08, 2019 3:56 pm
Here is an example of one of his sacks that year. He did this spin thing a lot.

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Today that tackle would be a flag.
why?
You can't throw the QB into the ground like that.


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Re: Bobcats by the Numbers 2019

Post by FTG247365 » Fri Aug 09, 2019 10:07 am

91catAlum wrote:
Thu Aug 08, 2019 5:22 pm
allcat wrote:
Thu Aug 08, 2019 5:13 pm
catatac wrote:
Thu Aug 08, 2019 4:53 pm
AFCAT wrote:
Thu Aug 08, 2019 3:56 pm
Here is an example of one of his sacks that year. He did this spin thing a lot.

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Today that tackle would be a flag.
why?
You can't throw the QB into the ground like that.
You have to assist them slowly to the ground, provide a pad, and a pillow. Similar to helping a elderly person into bed.



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Re: Bobcats by the Numbers 2019

Post by Long Time Cat » Fri Aug 09, 2019 3:17 pm

FTG247365 wrote:
Fri Aug 09, 2019 10:07 am
91catAlum wrote:
Thu Aug 08, 2019 5:22 pm
allcat wrote:
Thu Aug 08, 2019 5:13 pm
catatac wrote:
Thu Aug 08, 2019 4:53 pm
AFCAT wrote:
Thu Aug 08, 2019 3:56 pm
Here is an example of one of his sacks that year. He did this spin thing a lot.

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Today that tackle would be a flag.
why?
You can't throw the QB into the ground like that.
You have to assist them slowly to the ground, provide a pad, and a pillow. Similar to helping a elderly person into bed.
:lol: :lol: :lol: Nicely done!


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Re: Bobcats by the Numbers 2019

Post by allcat » Fri Aug 09, 2019 3:26 pm

Long Time Cat wrote:
Fri Aug 09, 2019 3:17 pm
FTG247365 wrote:
Fri Aug 09, 2019 10:07 am
91catAlum wrote:
Thu Aug 08, 2019 5:22 pm
allcat wrote:
Thu Aug 08, 2019 5:13 pm
catatac wrote:
Thu Aug 08, 2019 4:53 pm
AFCAT wrote:
Thu Aug 08, 2019 3:56 pm
Here is an example of one of his sacks that year. He did this spin thing a lot.

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Today that tackle would be a flag.
why?
You can't throw the QB into the ground like that.
You have to assist them slowly to the ground, provide a pad, and a pillow. Similar to helping a elderly person into bed.
:lol: :lol: :lol: Nicely done!
I'm not nitpicking on this but this is not throwing the qb to the ground, it is bulldogging him down. I'm just questioning id this is really illegal?


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Re: Bobcats by the Numbers 2019

Post by bobcat99 » Fri Aug 09, 2019 3:28 pm

allcat wrote:
Fri Aug 09, 2019 3:26 pm
Long Time Cat wrote:
Fri Aug 09, 2019 3:17 pm
FTG247365 wrote:
Fri Aug 09, 2019 10:07 am
91catAlum wrote:
Thu Aug 08, 2019 5:22 pm
allcat wrote:
Thu Aug 08, 2019 5:13 pm
catatac wrote:
Thu Aug 08, 2019 4:53 pm
AFCAT wrote:
Thu Aug 08, 2019 3:56 pm
Here is an example of one of his sacks that year. He did this spin thing a lot.

Image
Today that tackle would be a flag.
why?
You can't throw the QB into the ground like that.
You have to assist them slowly to the ground, provide a pad, and a pillow. Similar to helping a elderly person into bed.
:lol: :lol: :lol: Nicely done!
I'm not nitpicking on this but this is not throwing the qb to the ground, it is bulldogging him down. I'm just questioning id this is really illegal?
In the NFL, yes. Not sure about college.



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Re: Bobcats by the Numbers 2019

Post by catatac » Fri Aug 09, 2019 3:30 pm

Yes. I would be willing to bet 95% of the time that gets flagged for unnecessary roughness. However, I did a quick search and per the rule, maybe that technically isn't illegal to slam the QB to the ground even though I know the game had migrated more towards protecting the QBs. Any officials on here care to weigh in? Now I'm curious.

https://www.sbnation.com/2018/8/30/1748 ... e-ncaa-nfl


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Re: Bobcats by the Numbers 2019

Post by Air Force Cat » Fri Aug 09, 2019 3:45 pm

catatac wrote:
Fri Aug 09, 2019 3:30 pm
Yes. I would be willing to bet 95% of the time that gets flagged for unnecessary roughness. However, I did a quick search and per the rule, maybe that technically isn't illegal to slam the QB to the ground even though I know the game had migrated more towards protecting the QBs. Any officials on here care to weigh in? Now I'm curious.

https://www.sbnation.com/2018/8/30/1748 ... e-ncaa-nfl

Situational. Does the R feel that the QB is being forced to the ground? If so then yes it is UNR. Does the R feel that the act happened as part of the tackle? Then clean. You can see it going both ways on a play like that and both can be correct


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