Alex Johnson, Spiroff, Griel, Wilcox.....wr #11 Rothe?
Too bad about Joe Olson....looks like a knee! Damn!
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Alex Johnson, Spiroff, Griel, Wilcox.....wr #11 Rothe?
It will be interesting to see what Olson does this year. I feel like their schedule is harder this year then it was last. Also, felt like Buss took a step backwards last season
Buss literally played at around 50-60% all season. Dante is a fantastic LB and should have another monster season.
If my memory is correct wasn't Buss injured preseason and was iffy for the season. If they had to put him out there in that condition it must have said something about their backups.VimSince03 wrote: ↑Tue Jun 18, 2019 12:07 amBuss literally played at around 50-60% all season. Dante is a fantastic LB and should have another monster season.
Yes it was an offseason injury. He and Jace Lewis split reps for most of the year and Jace was phenomenal. LB play was not a problem for the 2018 Griz despite Josh being injured. The same couldn't be said of their defensive line and corner depth.RickRund wrote: ↑Tue Jun 18, 2019 8:26 amIf my memory is correct wasn't Buss injured preseason and was iffy for the season. If they had to put him out there in that condition it must have said something about their backups.VimSince03 wrote: ↑Tue Jun 18, 2019 12:07 amBuss literally played at around 50-60% all season. Dante is a fantastic LB and should have another monster season.
Would you say those shortcomings on D helped Olson statistically? It's easy to see he's a special player, but do you think he takes a step back statistically if the rest of the defense is better?VimSince03 wrote: ↑Tue Jun 18, 2019 8:29 amYes it was an offseason injury. He and Jace Lewis split reps for most of the year and Jace was phenomenal. LB play was not a problem for the 2018 Griz despite Josh being injured. The same couldn't be said of their defensive line and corner depth.RickRund wrote: ↑Tue Jun 18, 2019 8:26 amIf my memory is correct wasn't Buss injured preseason and was iffy for the season. If they had to put him out there in that condition it must have said something about their backups.VimSince03 wrote: ↑Tue Jun 18, 2019 12:07 amBuss literally played at around 50-60% all season. Dante is a fantastic LB and should have another monster season.
Number of tackles can be a misleading stat. How far down the field was the tackle? Is the player playing Gap sound or cheating to make a play. All those can be hidden in a big Tackles number. I'm not saying Olson isn't good, but he and Hauck were cleaning up in the second level of the field a lot last year.kennethnoisewater wrote: ↑Tue Jun 18, 2019 1:27 pmWould you say those shortcomings on D helped Olson statistically? It's easy to see he's a special player, but do you think he takes a step back statistically if the rest of the defense is better?VimSince03 wrote: ↑Tue Jun 18, 2019 8:29 amYes it was an offseason injury. He and Jace Lewis split reps for most of the year and Jace was phenomenal. LB play was not a problem for the 2018 Griz despite Josh being injured. The same couldn't be said of their defensive line and corner depth.RickRund wrote: ↑Tue Jun 18, 2019 8:26 amIf my memory is correct wasn't Buss injured preseason and was iffy for the season. If they had to put him out there in that condition it must have said something about their backups.VimSince03 wrote: ↑Tue Jun 18, 2019 12:07 amBuss literally played at around 50-60% all season. Dante is a fantastic LB and should have another monster season.
Reminds me of the only quote I've ever liked from BH. He was asked to say something about Olson getting something like 22 tackles in one game and he said "who's keeping stats, his mom?" It was an obscene number.
CARDIAC_CATS wrote: ↑Tue Jun 18, 2019 3:21 pmNumber of tackles can be a misleading stat. How far down the field was the tackle? Does the DL have athletes that can hold their position but also make a tackle? Is the player playing Gap sound or cheating to make a play? All those can be hidden in a big Tackles number. I'm not saying Olson isn't good, but he and Hauck were cleaning up in the second level of the field a lot last year.kennethnoisewater wrote: ↑Tue Jun 18, 2019 1:27 pmWould you say those shortcomings on D helped Olson statistically? It's easy to see he's a special player, but do you think he takes a step back statistically if the rest of the defense is better?VimSince03 wrote: ↑Tue Jun 18, 2019 8:29 amYes it was an offseason injury. He and Jace Lewis split reps for most of the year and Jace was phenomenal. LB play was not a problem for the 2018 Griz despite Josh being injured. The same couldn't be said of their defensive line and corner depth.RickRund wrote: ↑Tue Jun 18, 2019 8:26 amIf my memory is correct wasn't Buss injured preseason and was iffy for the season. If they had to put him out there in that condition it must have said something about their backups.VimSince03 wrote: ↑Tue Jun 18, 2019 12:07 amBuss literally played at around 50-60% all season. Dante is a fantastic LB and should have another monster season.
Reminds me of the only quote I've ever liked from BH. He was asked to say something about Olson getting something like 22 tackles in one game and he said "who's keeping stats, his mom?" It was an obscene number.
Sort of begs the question... Was he the only one who got any tackles (DLine sucked) or were they running at the weakest link?CARDIAC_CATS wrote: ↑Tue Jun 18, 2019 3:21 pmNumber of tackles can be a misleading stat. How far down the field was the tackle? Is the player playing Gap sound or cheating to make a play. All those can be hidden in a big Tackles number. I'm not saying Olson isn't good, but he and Hauck were cleaning up in the second level of the field a lot last year.kennethnoisewater wrote: ↑Tue Jun 18, 2019 1:27 pmWould you say those shortcomings on D helped Olson statistically? It's easy to see he's a special player, but do you think he takes a step back statistically if the rest of the defense is better?VimSince03 wrote: ↑Tue Jun 18, 2019 8:29 amYes it was an offseason injury. He and Jace Lewis split reps for most of the year and Jace was phenomenal. LB play was not a problem for the 2018 Griz despite Josh being injured. The same couldn't be said of their defensive line and corner depth.RickRund wrote: ↑Tue Jun 18, 2019 8:26 amIf my memory is correct wasn't Buss injured preseason and was iffy for the season. If they had to put him out there in that condition it must have said something about their backups.VimSince03 wrote: ↑Tue Jun 18, 2019 12:07 amBuss literally played at around 50-60% all season. Dante is a fantastic LB and should have another monster season.
Reminds me of the only quote I've ever liked from BH. He was asked to say something about Olson getting something like 22 tackles in one game and he said "who's keeping stats, his mom?" It was an obscene number.
Turn on any game tape of any Griz game last year and Dante jumps off the tape immediately. He had 50 more tackles than any player in the Big Sky at the end of the year while also putting up 11 tackles for a loss, 6 sacks, and 3 forced fumbles. I am all for throwing shade at the Griz but making up a narrative that Dante Olson is overrated because of an over inflated tackle total? That ain't it. We can do much better.Montanabob wrote: ↑Tue Jun 18, 2019 3:51 pmSort of begs the question... Was he the only one who got any tackles (DLine sucked) or were they running at the weakest link?CARDIAC_CATS wrote: ↑Tue Jun 18, 2019 3:21 pmNumber of tackles can be a misleading stat. How far down the field was the tackle? Is the player playing Gap sound or cheating to make a play. All those can be hidden in a big Tackles number. I'm not saying Olson isn't good, but he and Hauck were cleaning up in the second level of the field a lot last year.kennethnoisewater wrote: ↑Tue Jun 18, 2019 1:27 pmWould you say those shortcomings on D helped Olson statistically? It's easy to see he's a special player, but do you think he takes a step back statistically if the rest of the defense is better?VimSince03 wrote: ↑Tue Jun 18, 2019 8:29 amYes it was an offseason injury. He and Jace Lewis split reps for most of the year and Jace was phenomenal. LB play was not a problem for the 2018 Griz despite Josh being injured. The same couldn't be said of their defensive line and corner depth.RickRund wrote: ↑Tue Jun 18, 2019 8:26 amIf my memory is correct wasn't Buss injured preseason and was iffy for the season. If they had to put him out there in that condition it must have said something about their backups.VimSince03 wrote: ↑Tue Jun 18, 2019 12:07 amBuss literally played at around 50-60% all season. Dante is a fantastic LB and should have another monster season.
Reminds me of the only quote I've ever liked from BH. He was asked to say something about Olson getting something like 22 tackles in one game and he said "who's keeping stats, his mom?" It was an obscene number.
Colter had an interesting podcast about how schools tally stats. UM and MSU do it differently for example, I got the impression that Olson wouldn't have as many tackles if tallied under the way MSU does it.VimSince03 wrote: ↑Tue Jun 18, 2019 4:08 pmTurn on any game tape of any Griz game last year and Dante jumps off the tape immediately. He had 50 more tackles than any player in the Big Sky at the end of the year while also putting up 11 tackles for a loss, 6 sacks, and 3 forced fumbles. I am all for throwing shade at the Griz but making up a narrative that Dante Olson is overrated because of an over inflated tackle total? That ain't it. We can do much better.Montanabob wrote: ↑Tue Jun 18, 2019 3:51 pmSort of begs the question... Was he the only one who got any tackles (DLine sucked) or were they running at the weakest link?CARDIAC_CATS wrote: ↑Tue Jun 18, 2019 3:21 pmNumber of tackles can be a misleading stat. How far down the field was the tackle? Is the player playing Gap sound or cheating to make a play. All those can be hidden in a big Tackles number. I'm not saying Olson isn't good, but he and Hauck were cleaning up in the second level of the field a lot last year.kennethnoisewater wrote: ↑Tue Jun 18, 2019 1:27 pmWould you say those shortcomings on D helped Olson statistically? It's easy to see he's a special player, but do you think he takes a step back statistically if the rest of the defense is better?VimSince03 wrote: ↑Tue Jun 18, 2019 8:29 amYes it was an offseason injury. He and Jace Lewis split reps for most of the year and Jace was phenomenal. LB play was not a problem for the 2018 Griz despite Josh being injured. The same couldn't be said of their defensive line and corner depth.RickRund wrote: ↑Tue Jun 18, 2019 8:26 amIf my memory is correct wasn't Buss injured preseason and was iffy for the season. If they had to put him out there in that condition it must have said something about their backups.VimSince03 wrote: ↑Tue Jun 18, 2019 12:07 amBuss literally played at around 50-60% all season. Dante is a fantastic LB and should have another monster season.
Reminds me of the only quote I've ever liked from BH. He was asked to say something about Olson getting something like 22 tackles in one game and he said "who's keeping stats, his mom?" It was an obscene number.
Yeah I’m not throwing shade at him but there are lots different reasons sometimes for tackle totals. I’m just saying you can’t just use that. I find the Hauck quote about his mom to be kind of indicative to what CelticCat is saying above. I would take Olson in a heartbeat on the Cats.CelticCat wrote: ↑Tue Jun 18, 2019 5:05 pmColter had an interesting podcast about how schools tally stats. UM and MSU do it differently for example, I got the impression that Olson wouldn't have as many tackles if tallied under the way MSU does it.VimSince03 wrote: ↑Tue Jun 18, 2019 4:08 pmTurn on any game tape of any Griz game last year and Dante jumps off the tape immediately. He had 50 more tackles than any player in the Big Sky at the end of the year while also putting up 11 tackles for a loss, 6 sacks, and 3 forced fumbles. I am all for throwing shade at the Griz but making up a narrative that Dante Olson is overrated because of an over inflated tackle total? That ain't it. We can do much better.Montanabob wrote: ↑Tue Jun 18, 2019 3:51 pmSort of begs the question... Was he the only one who got any tackles (DLine sucked) or were they running at the weakest link?CARDIAC_CATS wrote: ↑Tue Jun 18, 2019 3:21 pmNumber of tackles can be a misleading stat. How far down the field was the tackle? Is the player playing Gap sound or cheating to make a play. All those can be hidden in a big Tackles number. I'm not saying Olson isn't good, but he and Hauck were cleaning up in the second level of the field a lot last year.kennethnoisewater wrote: ↑Tue Jun 18, 2019 1:27 pmWould you say those shortcomings on D helped Olson statistically? It's easy to see he's a special player, but do you think he takes a step back statistically if the rest of the defense is better?VimSince03 wrote: ↑Tue Jun 18, 2019 8:29 amYes it was an offseason injury. He and Jace Lewis split reps for most of the year and Jace was phenomenal. LB play was not a problem for the 2018 Griz despite Josh being injured. The same couldn't be said of their defensive line and corner depth.RickRund wrote: ↑Tue Jun 18, 2019 8:26 amIf my memory is correct wasn't Buss injured preseason and was iffy for the season. If they had to put him out there in that condition it must have said something about their backups.VimSince03 wrote: ↑Tue Jun 18, 2019 12:07 amBuss literally played at around 50-60% all season. Dante is a fantastic LB and should have another monster season.
Reminds me of the only quote I've ever liked from BH. He was asked to say something about Olson getting something like 22 tackles in one game and he said "who's keeping stats, his mom?" It was an obscene number.