Students? Athletes?

[bobkitten66]

Is the Bobcat Nation okay with the current levels of academic under-achievement amongst the bball and football programs?? I mean, isn't that reason enough to hope that Coach K really does move on sometime soon?

[SonomaCat]

Is the Bobcat Nation okay with the current levels of academic under-achievement amongst the bball and football programs?? I mean, isn't that reason enough to hope that Coach K really does move on sometime soon?

Post some stats and some comparables from other schools, and then begin a discussion on a topic like this ... it's kind of hard to talk about numbers without any facts.

Two posts -- and twice you bash on MSU student athlete graduation rates without providing any degree of factual evidence to suggest that there is even a problem to discuss. I hope to see improvement on this round from you.

[raincat]

I thought I'd seen somewhere recently where the gpa's of our student athletes were well above the general student population??? Maybe not. Also, it's my understanding the football team gpa's have remained relatively stable over the past several years well back into the Hysell era???

[MSU01]

Well, if we go by the new NCAA eligibility rules, the football team is underperforming, and will lose scholarships if they don't improve. This is bad, and no I'm not particularly happy about it. I don't see where you're coming from with the basketball team though, as they had a perfect score of 1000...they're all staying eligible and on track to graduate, but are they just not getting good enough grades for you?

[gtapp]

According to the sports information director' last years gpa was about 3.15 collectively. I believe that was just football but I could be mistaken and would hate to misquote someone. He said we were just ahead of U of M. I understand that we must meet NCAA guidelines but I believe the coaching staff does an excellent job with this. Kramer is probably as strick as they come. His coaches review notebooks and assignments every week, they communicate with each players teachers regularly and coack K will bench anyone (including Lulay) if they are not doing the work. And he will bench them mid semester and not wait for grades. They have mandatory study time at the library every night and they have tutors available. If a kid flunks out it is not because of the coaches. It is because they just don't care.

[mslacat]

Is the Bobcat Nation okay with the current levels of academic under-achievement amongst the bball and football programs?? I mean, isn't that reason enough to hope that Coach K really does move on sometime soon?

Bobkitten this is your second post on this topic and second post over all. I am assuming you have an agenda but yet no factual info to back up your claims. I would ask you to clarify what you are basing your comments on. If you have no basis for your claims then go away!

[El_Gato]

It's obvious from his/her monicker that he/she is a griz fan. Interesting that a fan from the school with the WORST BBall team in the conference (academically) would come in here taking shots. I sure wish MSU offered those "Christmas Break Crash Courses" where their players go after spending 4 months flunking out and then become mysteriously eligible again in just 3 WEEKS!!

bobkitten66; just another spoiled, obnoxious, arrogant, PATHETIC griz fan...