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WSU Reciever going to be good

Post by bobcatpride » Thu Apr 07, 2005 8:14 am

Went to practice the other day and Tremain (SP) is going to be GOOD. I watched this #17 run a pattern and everyone looked to be standing still. When I started to focus in on him he ran a fly pattern against Fuller and had 5 yards of seperation in about 20 yards. Travis hit him in stride. I think we have a punt returner that will be an impact. He's just plain fast and caught everything I saw throwen his way. Mike Brown was also running with the 1's. It looks like Guinn may be fighting for a starting spot. Gatewood, Murray, and Brown would be a good core.

Kalone looks big and athletic. Papich is a monster. I saw alot of the 3-4 and the DB's were playing zone all day. Hunter was back and fuller was playing the other side. Force Grundfield SS and FS. I saw Eddie Smith on the sidelines which is something we should get used to.
Matikas looked like he put on 20 pounds and Travis looked to have dropped a few.

Overall Im still worried about our smaller LB's and DL in a 3-4 config. But I'll put my trust in Krames as Im simply a fan.



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Post by BleedsBlue&Gold » Thu Apr 07, 2005 8:55 am

Thanks for the update on the recievers. As long as the o-line stays healthy and gives Lulay some time, our recievers should be huge. Of course it wouldn't hurt our passing game to have a serious running game threat this year.

We need 2 things from our 3-4 front.
1) STOP the run. We cannot have another Ryan Mole game, ever!
2) Get some serious pressure on opposing QB's. We could have the best corners in the 1-AA, but unless they put the heat on, we will get picked apart.



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Re: WSU Reciever going to be good

Post by Cat Pride » Thu Apr 07, 2005 8:56 am

bobcatpride wrote:Overall Im still worried about our smaller LB's and DL in a 3-4 config. But I'll put my trust in Krames as Im simply a fan.
Dont lose sleep over this brother. The LBs are absolute studs! Mollohan in the middle is a 2 time first conference player, Marudus is as quick as anyone on the field (in addition to being 6-1 225). Epi King is the quickest player on the defense (wowed NFL scouts last month during workouts). And the addition of Clive Lowe to the LB corp puts one of the teams best athletes as our primary rush LB - lets not forget he had 3 INTS his freshman year as a DE! The LB corp is stout.

The DL is going to surprise people this year. Matakis is rumored to be over 285. Pappich was bigger than Beau Clark last year...I've heard he is still putting on weight. Rogers, although injured, is over 285. Kolone is 285 as well, and now we've added Saucedo - 6-6, 320. Watch out Big Sky conference, THE BOBCAT DEFENSE IS BACK!



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Post by BleedsBlue&Gold » Thu Apr 07, 2005 9:01 am

Delvan Geddes, Jason Hicks, Neal Smith, Ty O'Connor, Jon Montoya. . . . All-American D-lineman. (Did I forget anyone?)


Hopefully a couple of our current D-lineman pan out like these great ones!



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Post by wbtfg » Thu Apr 07, 2005 9:16 am

BleedsBlue&Gold wrote:Delvan Geddes, Jason Hicks, Neal Smith, Ty O'Connor, Jon Montoya. . . . All-American D-lineman. (Did I forget anyone?)


Hopefully a couple of our current D-lineman pan out like these great ones!
Cordiero, Taylor, Sebasitan have got to be in there somewhere.



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Post by Cat Grad » Thu Apr 07, 2005 9:19 am

...Mark Fellows, Les Leninger...



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Re: WSU Reciever going to be good

Post by wbtfg » Thu Apr 07, 2005 9:24 am

bobcatpride wrote:Went to practice the other day and Tremain (SP) is going to be GOOD. I watched this #17 run a pattern and everyone looked to be standing still. When I started to focus in on him he ran a fly pattern against Fuller and had 5 yards of seperation in about 20 yards. Travis hit him in stride. I think we have a punt returner that will be an impact. He's just plain fast and caught everything I saw throwen his way. Mike Brown was also running with the 1's. It looks like Guinn may be fighting for a starting spot. Gatewood, Murray, and Brown would be a good core.

Kalone looks big and athletic. Papich is a monster. I saw alot of the 3-4 and the DB's were playing zone all day. Hunter was back and fuller was playing the other side. Force Grundfield SS and FS. I saw Eddie Smith on the sidelines which is something we should get used to.
Matikas looked like he put on 20 pounds and Travis looked to have dropped a few.

Overall Im still worried about our smaller LB's and DL in a 3-4 config. But I'll put my trust in Krames as Im simply a fan.
I thought that we were playing Fuller at safety this year? Any news on that? Also, has Austin been practicing? And I think we had another freshman corner last year who we expecting good things from...Ryan Kelley (is that his name??)



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Post by Helcat72 » Thu Apr 07, 2005 9:34 am

Cat Grad wrote:...Mark Fellows, Les Leninger...
Probably the best was Bill Kollar, Senior Bowl MVP and drafted in the first round...then there was Curt Brandon...and don't forget Cory Widmer!
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Post by Cat Grad » Thu Apr 07, 2005 9:50 am

Well, if you want to go there--I'll take Ron Ueland, Mike Volmer and Ron East because even I'm too young to have watched Sonny Holland :lol:



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Post by wbtfg » Thu Apr 07, 2005 10:18 am

Hey Pride, how is Evin Groves looking at the running back position?



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Post by CelticCat » Thu Apr 07, 2005 10:24 am

I hope Murray turns out to be a Gatewood type. Can you imagine two WR's out there with 4.4ish speed? Can you say "throw them the ball"? I imagine if Murray gets the nod, I think Guinn will be more of a possession receiver, much like Sullivan was last year. I am getting really excited about football again!

About Fuller, I think he showed great strides last year and can be effective anywhere in the defensive backfield. I think the main reason he isn't at safety like projected is due to injuries to CBs already. They probably hope to move him to safety, but I'd rather have him training as a CB just in case he will have to play CB, which more than likely he will. I am comfortable (not estactic) about the safety position. I think Grenfell and Force will more than hold their own.

Like most of you, my biggest concern is the DL. Can they put enough pressure on the OL to make the 3-4 effective?
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Post by WYCAT » Thu Apr 07, 2005 10:35 am

I am glad to hear Murray is impressing people early on. I was originally hoping he would fill the shoes vacated by Sullivan but it sounds like he may be all that and more. Let's hope so. It also sounds like a lot of young guys are getting a chance to watch and learn from a couple of veteran receivers which will help down the road. Our receiving corp sound to be in good shape.



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Post by CARDIAC_CATS » Thu Apr 07, 2005 10:46 am

CelticCat wrote: Like most of you, my biggest concern is the DL. Can they put enough pressure on the OL to make the 3-4 effective?
If we can get a stable nose guard, Yes .. I think we can get enough pressure. The 3-4 is VERY flexible and you can use MANY stunts/blitzes off of that. I actually think we'll get more pressure this year using that than the standard 3-4 (mostly based on our DL 4-3 depth etc.). Who knows, we may even show some teams some 4-3 looks in some games as well. Mix it up etc.



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Post by kmax » Thu Apr 07, 2005 10:53 am

To anyone who has seen practices and anyone who goes to the scrimmage this weekend, any updates on Travis's backups would be appreciated. I am still a bit concerned with our depth at QB and would be interested to hear how the backups are progressing this spring.


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Post by wbtfg » Thu Apr 07, 2005 10:58 am

Hey Kmax, I think that we should submit your avatar for our new school logo. I like it much better than the two options we have now.

PLUS, if we paid $23,000 for the finalists we have now, just think how much you could have earned.



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Post by kmax » Thu Apr 07, 2005 11:04 am

I like it too, but it was created by rtb, so I guess he gets the cash.


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Post by raincat » Thu Apr 07, 2005 12:20 pm

Our All-American DT's to 2000 are (1st, 2nd, 3rd HM). I don't have this century handy:

Ron Warzeka 1st, 1956
Bill Kollar 1st 1973, 2nd 1972
Corey Widmer, 2nd 1990 & 1991
Jeff Newton, 3rd, 1991
Bob Biastoch HM, 1959
Gene Shilling HM, 1959
Joe Tiller HM, 1963
Lonnie Burt HM, 1984
John Wanago HM, 1988
Devlan Geddes HM, 1996
Ty O'Connor HM, 1998

DE's for the same period:

Gary Gustafson 1st, 1970
Les Leininger 1st, 1976
Mark Fellows 1st, 1984
Neal Smith 1st, 1997
Jason Hicks HM, 1991, 3rd 1993
Brad Daws HM, 1975



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Post by Cat Grad » Thu Apr 07, 2005 12:25 pm

Oh man, Gustafson was real good too. Guess I'm starting to show my age :oops:



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Post by bobcatpride » Thu Apr 07, 2005 12:40 pm

No sign of Evan G. at running back. Domineck and Gathing were the only two I saw. JD looked lighter than last year which is good. Carpenter was going with the 2's and he looked good. The kid has a stronger arm than Travis but he tends to focus on one guy to much. I dont think QB should be a worry Carpenter will be a good #2. Hopefully we can get him in for some reps this year in a mop up situation and not a blowout at the hands of the foe.



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Post by kmax » Thu Apr 07, 2005 1:46 pm

Press releases before spring ball started stated that Groves would be limited in the spring. Seems like I remember one Chronicle article stating he would practice some but wouldn't take part in the scrimmages.

Ahh, here it is, from this article: Bobcats still waiting, lose another
Red shirt freshman running back Evin Groves is coming off surgery to remove bone spurs in his shoulder and will practice but not play in any of the scrimmages.


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