Troy Freaking Andersen!

[TomCat88]

I think the shoulder ding will keep him in third, unless a team with maybe 4 picks in top 2 rounds gambles on him

I don’t think it will. I think he’s too versatile to pass on over any perceived shoulder issue he may or may not have.

It’s similar to Randy Moss. He haunted the teams that passed on him. The Randy Moss Factor lives.

[PapaG]

I think the shoulder ding will keep him in third, unless a team with maybe 4 picks in top 2 rounds gambles on him

I don’t think it will. I think he’s too versatile to pass on over any perceived shoulder issue he may or may not have.

It’s similar to Randy Moss. He haunted the teams that passed on him. The Randy Moss Factor lives.

Randy Moss was a generational player in high school that ended up at Marshall because he didn’t qualify academically at Notre Dame after serving time in jail in West Virginia, and then character problems at Florida State for smoking weed.

There were zero concerns about him as a WR and zero concerns about him coming off injuries. Lou Holtz called him the greatest HS player he’d ever seen. Bobby Bowden compared him to Deion Sanders as greatest player to step foot in that program. Troy Andersen is a very good football player who has minimal experience at his position and made up for it with elite athleticism which made him a great player at the FCS level. We all hope Troy becomes one of the best ever to play his position, but Randy Moss was viewed as a potential All-Pro NFL player is ever get his head on straight going back to his HS recruiting.

This is the type of hyperbolic nonsense that puts way too high of expectations on 15 by even bringing up Moss and makes this board look as delusional as egris. It doesn’t matter which round Troy gets drafted in, it matters what he does on the field.

[BleedingBLue]

I think the shoulder ding will keep him in third, unless a team with maybe 4 picks in top 2 rounds gambles on him

I don’t think it will. I think he’s too versatile to pass on over any perceived shoulder issue he may or may not have.

It’s similar to Randy Moss. He haunted the teams that passed on him. The Randy Moss Factor lives.

Randy Moss was a generational player in high school that ended up at Marshall because he didn’t qualify academically at Notre Dame after serving time in jail in West Virginia, and then character problems at Florida State for smoking weed.

There were zero concerns about him as a WR and zero concerns about him coming off injuries. Lou Holtz called him the greatest HS player he’d ever seen. Bobby Bowden compared him to Deion Sanders as greatest player to step foot in that program. Troy Andersen is a very good football player who has minimal experience at his position and made up for it with elite athleticism which made him a great player at the FCS level. We all hope Troy becomes one of the best ever to play his position, but Randy Moss was viewed as a potential All-Pro NFL player is ever get his head on straight going back to his HS recruiting.

This is the type of hyperbolic nonsense that puts way too high of expectations on 15 by even bringing up Moss and makes this board look as delusional as egris. It doesn’t matter which round Troy gets drafted in, it matters what he does on the field.

Sorry papa but TA wasn't just great because he played at the FCS level. And I know that's not exactly what you are saying, but it comes off that way. Had he played at the FBS level for 4-5 years at 1 position he would be a round 1 pick. He might even be a round 1 pick had he played LB for 4 years at MSU.

[TomCat88]

I think the shoulder ding will keep him in third, unless a team with maybe 4 picks in top 2 rounds gambles on him

I don’t think it will. I think he’s too versatile to pass on over any perceived shoulder issue he may or may not have.

It’s similar to Randy Moss. He haunted the teams that passed on him. The Randy Moss Factor lives.

Randy Moss was a generational player in high school that ended up at Marshall because he didn’t qualify academically at Notre Dame after serving time in jail in West Virginia, and then character problems at Florida State for smoking weed.

There were zero concerns about him as a WR and zero concerns about him coming off injuries. Lou Holtz called him the greatest HS player he’d ever seen. Bobby Bowden compared him to Deion Sanders as greatest player to step foot in that program. Troy Andersen is a very good football player who has minimal experience at his position and made up for it with elite athleticism which made him a great player at the FCS level. We all hope Troy becomes one of the best ever to play his position, but Randy Moss was viewed as a potential All-Pro NFL player is ever get his head on straight going back to his HS recruiting.

This is the type of hyperbolic nonsense that puts way too high of expectations on 15 by even bringing up Moss and makes this board look as delusional as egris. It doesn’t matter which round Troy gets drafted in, it matters what he does on the field.

Tell me you were passed out drunk for every one of MSU’s football games without telling me you were passed drunk for every one of MSU’s football games.

Troy Andersen IS a generational player. Just because he’s at Montana State and no “big time” teams like Oregon were forward thinking enough to have someone come out and give him a look doesn’t mean he isn’t. The dude has literally blown all the other linebackers away on average in the combine and his pro day. The all time combine record in the 40 is 4.38 and that dude isn’t half the size or skill of Andersen. Just like Moss compared to receivers that have slightly better 40 times. Moss was drafted 21st. Should’ve been much earlier, like at least second. Andersen will most likely be taken too late and teams will be kicking themselves when he’s a game one starter and starting in the Pro Bowl.

People keep doubting him. I remember comparing him to OJ Simpson before his freshman year and people laughed. A year after getting frosh of the year he’s setting the BSC quarterback rushing record.

Teams know Andersen is a stud. Some will gamble in hopes of getting him in a later round. When he’s selected to start in the Pro Bowl, they’ll be crying in their beer. Just like the Cowboys and Bears.

After the draft it’ll be interesting to find out which teams told Troy they were going to take him but didn’t. He’ll be laughing at them and I’ll be laughing at you and all his other low FCS self esteem others.

[PapaG]

I think the shoulder ding will keep him in third, unless a team with maybe 4 picks in top 2 rounds gambles on him

I don’t think it will. I think he’s too versatile to pass on over any perceived shoulder issue he may or may not have.

It’s similar to Randy Moss. He haunted the teams that passed on him. The Randy Moss Factor lives.

Randy Moss was a generational player in high school that ended up at Marshall because he didn’t qualify academically at Notre Dame after serving time in jail in West Virginia, and then character problems at Florida State for smoking weed.

There were zero concerns about him as a WR and zero concerns about him coming off injuries. Lou Holtz called him the greatest HS player he’d ever seen. Bobby Bowden compared him to Deion Sanders as greatest player to step foot in that program. Troy Andersen is a very good football player who has minimal experience at his position and made up for it with elite athleticism which made him a great player at the FCS level. We all hope Troy becomes one of the best ever to play his position, but Randy Moss was viewed as a potential All-Pro NFL player is ever get his head on straight going back to his HS recruiting.

This is the type of hyperbolic nonsense that puts way too high of expectations on 15 by even bringing up Moss and makes this board look as delusional as egris. It doesn’t matter which round Troy gets drafted in, it matters what he does on the field.

Sorry papa but TA wasn't just great because he played at the FCS level. And I know that's not exactly what you are saying, but it comes off that way. Had he played at the FBS level for 4-5 years at 1 position he would be a round 1 pick. He might even be a round 1 pick had he played LB for 4 years at MSU.

If Troy was viewed today as the next Brian Uhrlacher at MLB by the NFL, he’d be in the discussion as the #1 overall pick because there are no off-the-field concerns about him at all. He’s not viewed as Uhrlacher, or the LB version of Moss, which is why he’s a Day 2 pick. It’s not demeaning to Troy to state the obvious. Troy was an all-time great FCS player. I can’t extrapolate that elite success to an elite FBS program because that wasn’t how his college career unfolded.

[PapaG]

I think the shoulder ding will keep him in third, unless a team with maybe 4 picks in top 2 rounds gambles on him

I don’t think it will. I think he’s too versatile to pass on over any perceived shoulder issue he may or may not have.

It’s similar to Randy Moss. He haunted the teams that passed on him. The Randy Moss Factor lives.

Randy Moss was a generational player in high school that ended up at Marshall because he didn’t qualify academically at Notre Dame after serving time in jail in West Virginia, and then character problems at Florida State for smoking weed.

There were zero concerns about him as a WR and zero concerns about him coming off injuries. Lou Holtz called him the greatest HS player he’d ever seen. Bobby Bowden compared him to Deion Sanders as greatest player to step foot in that program. Troy Andersen is a very good football player who has minimal experience at his position and made up for it with elite athleticism which made him a great player at the FCS level. We all hope Troy becomes one of the best ever to play his position, but Randy Moss was viewed as a potential All-Pro NFL player is ever get his head on straight going back to his HS recruiting.

This is the type of hyperbolic nonsense that puts way too high of expectations on 15 by even bringing up Moss and makes this board look as delusional as egris. It doesn’t matter which round Troy gets drafted in, it matters what he does on the field.

Tell me you were passed out drunk for every one of MSU’s football games without telling me you were passed drunk for every one of MSU’s football games.

Troy Andersen IS a generational player. Just because he’s at Montana State and no “big time” teams like Oregon were forward thinking enough to have someone come out and give him a look doesn’t mean he isn’t. The dude has literally blown all the other linebackers away on average in the combine and his pro day. The all time combine record in the 40 is 4.38 and that dude isn’t half the size or skill of Andersen. Just like Moss compared to receivers that have slightly better 40 times. Moss was drafted 21st. Should’ve been much earlier, like at least second. Andersen will most likely be taken too late and teams will be kicking themselves when he’s a game one starter and starting in the Pro Bowl.

People keep doubting him. I remember comparing him to OJ Simpson before his freshman year and people laughed. A year after getting frosh of the year he’s setting the BSC quarterback rushing record.

Teams know Andersen is a stud. Some will gamble in hopes of getting him in a later round. When he’s selected to start in the Pro Bowl, they’ll be crying in their beer. Just like the Cowboys and Bears.

After the draft it’ll be interesting to find out which teams told Troy they were going to take him but didn’t. He’ll be laughing at them and I’ll be laughing at you and all his other low FCS self esteem others.

I don’t understand why me not immediately comparing him to NFL Hall of Famers is worthy of this response. Why will you be laughing at me for not expecting him to be one of the greatest NFL players in history before he’s even on a team?

I’m not sure you read a word I wrote, but I’m not criticizing Troy, I’m criticizing you and your (in my opinion) unrealistic expectations for his NFL career at this moment. It reads as fan fiction and as I said, seems delusional.

Speaking of being drunk, you posting this emotional rant at 2am Mountain on a Thursday night/Friday morning has all the signs of you being a drunk.

[BelligerentBobcat]

Randy Moss has a legitimate case as the most talented WR in NFL history, and one could argue the best WR period. He “forced” a team to spend 3 high draft picks on CB’s just to help cover him (one of them was Joey Thomas). I love Troy as a player, he’s fantastic, I think he’ll have a good NFL career…but they aren’t remotely close to the same tier, level, impact, whatever you want to call it. Let’s just enjoy Troy for what he is.

[MSU01]

Randy Moss has a legitimate case as the most talented WR in NFL history, and one could argue the best WR period. He “forced” a team to spend 3 high draft picks on CB’s just to help cover him (one of them was Joey Thomas). I love Troy as a player, he’s fantastic, I think he’ll have a good NFL career…but they aren’t remotely close to the same tier, level, impact, whatever you want to call it. Let’s just enjoy Troy for what he is.

Yeah, the simple fact that he's being talked about as a 2nd round pick at LB despite playing two of his four years of college on offense is pretty damn incredible on its own. I think all of us agree that Troy is going to be a very good NFL player and has the potential to develop into an elite one - just cross your fingers that your favorite team drafts him (or at least that your team's hated rival doesn't), and enjoy the ride!

[TomCat88]

Andersen has that “extra thing” that few others possess. That to go along with his natural talents. He makes few others can make. Had he played for a top 10 team and been born in a place that is highly scouted (Florida Texas etc) he would be in the Hutchison area.

[coloradocat]

I think the shoulder ding will keep him in third, unless a team with maybe 4 picks in top 2 rounds gambles on him

I don’t think it will. I think he’s too versatile to pass on over any perceived shoulder issue he may or may not have.

It’s similar to Randy Moss. He haunted the teams that passed on him. The Randy Moss Factor lives.

Randy Moss was a generational player in high school that ended up at Marshall because he didn’t qualify academically at Notre Dame after serving time in jail in West Virginia, and then character problems at Florida State for smoking weed.

There were zero concerns about him as a WR and zero concerns about him coming off injuries. Lou Holtz called him the greatest HS player he’d ever seen. Bobby Bowden compared him to Deion Sanders as greatest player to step foot in that program. Troy Andersen is a very good football player who has minimal experience at his position and made up for it with elite athleticism which made him a great player at the FCS level. We all hope Troy becomes one of the best ever to play his position, but Randy Moss was viewed as a potential All-Pro NFL player is ever get his head on straight going back to his HS recruiting.

This is the type of hyperbolic nonsense that puts way too high of expectations on 15 by even bringing up Moss and makes this board look as delusional as egris. It doesn’t matter which round Troy gets drafted in, it matters what he does on the field.

Sorry papa but TA wasn't just great because he played at the FCS level. And I know that's not exactly what you are saying, but it comes off that way. Had he played at the FBS level for 4-5 years at 1 position he would be a round 1 pick. He might even be a round 1 pick had he played LB for 4 years at MSU.

I think he'd definitely be a late round 1 or early round 2 pick out of MSU if he had played LB, and only LB, and only one LB position, for even just the last two years. He wouldn't have split his focus across positions / sides of the ball, he'd probably be less likely to be injured, and thus have fewer medical flags pre-draft. Hell, he's currently a likely round 2 pick based mostly on athleticism and potential. Imagine if he had that, plus positional experience and a clean bill of health. Any more than 2 years at one position and he'd be a lock for the first round.

[bpcats20]

My best guess - middle of round 2 to middle of round 3 latest.

Sirius XM - Pat Kirwin - Jim Miller had him had him drafted to Broncos bottom of 2nd round.

[TomCat88]

Randy Moss has a legitimate case as the most talented WR in NFL history, and one could argue the best WR period. He “forced” a team to spend 3 high draft picks on CB’s just to help cover him (one of them was Joey Thomas). I love Troy as a player, he’s fantastic, I think he’ll have a good NFL career…but they aren’t remotely close to the same tier, level, impact, whatever you want to call it. Let’s just enjoy Troy for what he is.

I said all that about Moss BEFORE he was drafted, too. Obvious talent and skills. Just like Andersen. But also both possess that special something…vision, intuition…

[blueandgoldblitz]

Not that my opinion means much in this matter, but my LONE concern with Andersen is health. He's got the talent, the god given abilities, the drive to be great, the brains, the motor to never loaf on any down, and so much more. The only thing that could hold him back in the NFL, in my opinion, is his health. He got hurt both years playing linebacker (last year wasn't as serious, but he still dinged up that shoulder) so I'm hoping some NFL level doctors/trainers and strength/conditioning coaches can get him to a level of durability to keep him on the field consistently so he can reach his full potential.

[Bobcat4Ever]

https://billswire.usatoday.com/2022/03/ ... anderssen/

Bearcats?!

Oh yikes, missed seeing that. Good grief

Not only that, but the URL link article spelled his name incorrectly.

billswire.usatoday.com/2022/03/27/buffalo-bills-2022-nfl-draft-troy-anderssen/

Really, how hard is Andersen? What if he had a difficult name like Infanse or Roving?

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[TomCat88]

Someone may have posted this already. It's five days old. It's one of the best highlight videos of any player that I've ever seen. Ranks up there with Randy Moss and Deion Sanders and Adrian Peterson. What sets Andersen's apart is that he's making huge plays on both sides of the ball. I suppose a lot of the greats could've done the same given the opportunity. The other thing that sticks out is that a lot of his best plays aren't even included in this. So, this can be improved upon if anyone has the time and inclination.

[MSU01]

I think the shoulder ding will keep him in third, unless a team with maybe 4 picks in top 2 rounds gambles on him

My hunch is that he goes in the late 2nd round to a team that either has a ton of picks, or already has a solid defense and can give Troy another year or two to learn the intricacies of the LB position before throwing him in there as a starter right away. Troy should be a special teams standout from Day 1 though if his team chooses to use him there.

[TomCat88]

I think the shoulder ding will keep him in third, unless a team with maybe 4 picks in top 2 rounds gambles on him

My hunch is that he goes in the late 2nd round to a team that either has a ton of picks, or already has a solid defense and can give Troy another year or two to learn the intricacies of the LB position before throwing him in there as a starter right away. Troy should be a special teams standout from Day 1 though if his team chooses to use him there.

Vikings are taking him in the second round if he’s still available. The highest I’ve heard him going so far is first round to New England, but that depends on if one other player hasn’t been taken.

The more serious teams will be bringing him in for physicals shortly. If anything is awry Kiper, McShay et al will be talking about it as they’re following him closely knowing how many teams are interested.

Best indications are that he had a run of the mill shoulder stinger which isn’t enough to turn teams off.

[AFCAT]

It’s kind of funny seeing all these Troy Andersen videos. I have a YouTube channel with quite a few videos. I don’t have enough subscribers or content to monetize my channel. However, the Jason Bourne spoof video of Troy Andersen that I made has nearly 9,000 views. That’s more than twice as many views on my Troy video than on any other video I have. Troys name is definitely out there and people are searching for content on him.