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Re: Tommy to the Raiders

Post by BobcatDel » Sat Aug 30, 2025 10:50 pm

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There are not that many guys that jump from FCS to active NFL rosters right away. Troy obviously did, but he's a freak and was not learning a new position. Thinking of singleton, Daniel hardy, Okada, pretty sure Mike person was a practice squad guy for awhile. To name a few. Tommy looks to have a winding road ahead if he wants to make football a career but we all know he's capable.
Great point. I would add that very few FCS and lower players have left a big mark on the NFL. Most are backups and special teams players. I just looked at the list of the top 20 FCS players to play in the Pro Bowl and I only recognized about the half the names. One was Randy Moss, who actually only played one year in the FCS. Jan Stenerud is the only MSU player I can think of that made the Pro Bowl. I'm not sure if any Griz players have. Maybe Scott Gragg? Bierman? Stenerud, Kupp and Jared Allen are probably the most prominent NFL players out of the Big Sky. Roos? Singleton is making a push.

Could totally be spacing someone out but my point is that it's hard to make the NFL and if you do, you're probably not going to be a household name even among people who follow the FCS. Most players are in the Colt Anderson, Daniel Hardy, Jordan Tripp, Ty Okada mold...players that have to survive the cut year in and year out. Mellott, should he ever make it, would probably be in that group, which is really about the most you can hope for. Busting through to the top of the league is super rare. When you are that good, you still have to avoid getting sidetracked by injuries, like Andersen.
There were more from smaller schools that are leaving or left a mark.
- Kurt Warner No Iowa
- Richard Dent Tennessee St
- Michael Strahan Texas Southern
- Terry Bradshaw LA Tech (yeah it’s FBS now but not then)
- Tyreek Hill from West Alabama
- Jerry Rice (Mississippi Valley State) and Terrell Owens (Chattanooga)…pretty sure they kinda left itty bitty marks in the receiving world…at least the videos I have seen with them torching DBs
- I would argue a guy named Walter Payton fits the bill from Jackson State which was not exactly a powerhouse
- there are more if I did some research
If we’re using examples from 30 years ago, those are poor examples that don’t reflect the times.

Tyreek Hill went to a small school because of off field issues. He was at Oklahoma State before getting kicked off.
Don’t reflect the times??? 30 years ago is 1995. Are you saying they weren’t quality athletes in 1995….or those athletes wouldn’t compete in today’s game at the college or NFL level….or as others said African American athletes were not on 1995 teams (someone better look at the rosters from that time).
They are fine examples of small school FCS or lower division athletes that were successful in the NFL at the highest level.

Tyreek Hill actually started at Garden City Community College (a small school) before Oklahoma State. And staff at Garden City and Ok State worked with West Alabama Coach to give him another chance. No reason Ok St couldn’t have done the same…..but politically not acceptable in this era.



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Re: Tommy to the Raiders

Post by TomCat88 » Mon Sep 01, 2025 4:10 pm

Sounds like he might be heading to the Saints?


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Re: Tommy to the Raiders

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Re: Tommy to the Raiders

Post by TomCat88 » Mon Sep 01, 2025 4:12 pm

Much better place for him.


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Re: Tommy to the Raiders

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Great news-- All he needs is time and a chance.



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Re: Tommy to the Raiders

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Re: Tommy to the Saints

Post by AFCAT » Mon Sep 01, 2025 4:36 pm

The title of the thread needs to be changed then. :D See above

I hope there wasn't a huge amount of people that purchased his Raiders jersey.


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Re: Tommy to the Raiders

Post by MSUBRONCO » Mon Sep 01, 2025 5:30 pm

Was just coming post this glad someone got him



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Re: Tommy to the Raiders

Post by SCVBobcat » Mon Sep 01, 2025 5:31 pm

Much more optimistic about Kellen Moore devising creative ways to utilize Tommy's skill set =D^



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Re: Tommy to the Raiders

Post by MTnative » Mon Sep 01, 2025 6:00 pm

Glad he landed on his feet somewhere.

The Saints will absolute use his talents. Hope the raiders go 0-17.



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Re: Tommy to the Raiders

Post by BLACKnBLUEnGOLD » Mon Sep 01, 2025 6:27 pm

Kellen Moore is 37, so it's easier for him to be more patient with project players


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Re: Tommy to the Raiders

Post by MSU01 » Mon Sep 01, 2025 6:35 pm

BLACKnBLUEnGOLD wrote:
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Kellen Moore is 37, so it's easier for him to be more patient with project players
I highly doubt that Kellen Moore has much say in personnel decisions or which players to be patient with, but I do think he'll be a great coach for Tommy to work with and also one who will be creative enough to find Tommy a role to play if he can prove he deserves a shot. Taysom Hill is currently out recovering from a knee injury.



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Re: Tommy to the Raiders

Post by PapaG » Mon Sep 01, 2025 7:40 pm

Great spot for Tommy and the Saints are bad enough with a very young new coach to be patient and develop some guys for a year or two.

Their QB situation is also the worst in the NFL, and that includes Cleveland.


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Re: Tommy to the Raiders

Post by BelligerentBobcat » Mon Sep 01, 2025 7:49 pm

PapaG wrote:
Mon Sep 01, 2025 7:40 pm
Great spot for Tommy and the Saints are bad enough with a very young new coach to be patient and develop some guys for a year or two.

Their QB situation is also the worst in the NFL, and that includes Cleveland.
Tommy isn’t a QB.



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Re: Tommy to the Raiders

Post by PapaG » Mon Sep 01, 2025 7:57 pm

BelligerentBobcat wrote:
Mon Sep 01, 2025 7:49 pm
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Great spot for Tommy and the Saints are bad enough with a very young new coach to be patient and develop some guys for a year or two.

Their QB situation is also the worst in the NFL, and that includes Cleveland.
Tommy isn’t a QB.
Thank you, Captain Obvious.

I’m saying they have no expectations because they don’t have a QB1, so it’s a good spot for young projects to develop since there is not pressure of win this season.


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Re: Tommy to the Raiders

Post by SCVBobcat » Mon Sep 01, 2025 9:26 pm

BelligerentBobcat wrote:
Mon Sep 01, 2025 7:49 pm
PapaG wrote:
Mon Sep 01, 2025 7:40 pm
Great spot for Tommy and the Saints are bad enough with a very young new coach to be patient and develop some guys for a year or two.

Their QB situation is also the worst in the NFL, and that includes Cleveland.
Tommy isn’t a QB.
Neither is Taysom Hill, but he still throws the ball occasionally.



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Re: Tommy to the Raiders

Post by BelligerentBobcat » Mon Sep 01, 2025 9:31 pm

PapaG wrote:
Mon Sep 01, 2025 7:57 pm
BelligerentBobcat wrote:
Mon Sep 01, 2025 7:49 pm
PapaG wrote:
Mon Sep 01, 2025 7:40 pm
Great spot for Tommy and the Saints are bad enough with a very young new coach to be patient and develop some guys for a year or two.

Their QB situation is also the worst in the NFL, and that includes Cleveland.
Tommy isn’t a QB.
Thank you, Captain Obvious.

I’m saying they have no expectations because they don’t have a QB1, so it’s a good spot for young projects to develop since there is not pressure of win this season.
My bad. Misunderstood what you were trying to say.



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Re: Tommy to the Raiders

Post by nanacat » Mon Sep 01, 2025 9:35 pm

Well it'll be way easier for me to cheer for Tommy as a Saint! I'm so happy he's at least getting a chance. I'm certain he'll use this opportunity to prove he belongs, if they'll give him that chance, which I think they will.



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Re: Tommy to the Raiders

Post by allcat » Tue Sep 02, 2025 7:04 am

BelligerentBobcat wrote:
Mon Sep 01, 2025 7:49 pm
PapaG wrote:
Mon Sep 01, 2025 7:40 pm
Great spot for Tommy and the Saints are bad enough with a very young new coach to be patient and develop some guys for a year or two.

Their QB situation is also the worst in the NFL, and that includes Cleveland.
Tommy isn’t a QB.
He also was not a QB at the start of his freshman year.


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Re: Tommy to the Raiders

Post by MSU01 » Tue Sep 02, 2025 7:49 am

allcat wrote:
Tue Sep 02, 2025 7:04 am
BelligerentBobcat wrote:
Mon Sep 01, 2025 7:49 pm
PapaG wrote:
Mon Sep 01, 2025 7:40 pm
Great spot for Tommy and the Saints are bad enough with a very young new coach to be patient and develop some guys for a year or two.

Their QB situation is also the worst in the NFL, and that includes Cleveland.
Tommy isn’t a QB.
He also was not a QB at the start of his freshman year.
In terms of his listed roster position he was always a QB. In 2021 they obviously decided to use him on special teams and in other ways on offense until he took over as the starting QB.



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