Hubris or Humility?

[94VegasCat]

I’m married to a gris alum. She won’t cheer for them especially with hawktua at the helm. I love her dearly.

Now let’s be honest. I hate the gris. I guess I’m closer to the gtapp theory than most of you. I grew up through the streak. Bobcats put up with so much BS during that timeframe that it is unforgivable. There clearly not been enough Bobcat wins to erase that holier than thou BS that still oozes from the streak. Their ignorance to the fact that the Cats have dominated the rivalry for the past 10 years is proof that the streak is still in their vocabularies.
Sure I have friends that are gris and I’ve had employees that played football for them. We get along just fine. I’m capable of seeing that they can be good too but that doesn’t mean I’ll ever root for them. Au contraire! I’d root for the Iraqi National team before I’d root for them buttholes.

Pound your chest gtapp. I’m with you on this one!

FTG

[catatac]

F that! When it comes to the griz I am a very sore loser and a very sore winner. I hate the team, the town, their fans and the school! When they come to Bozeman I am in full attack mode the whole game! I had one couple sat next to me and lasted one play. Last year a young griz fan sat next to me and was gone by halftime!

Damn Gary.....Maybe take it down a couple notches.

No kidding. Last night after all the Thanksgiving stuff was done I was sitting around with my Dad (82) talking about Bobcat Football. I told him how fun it was to be in that stadium when the Cats won. He said he didn't know that feeling because the one and only Cat\Griz game he's ever seen in WAGriz resulted in a Cat loss... but he rarely misses the game when in Bozeman. Anyway, the one and only game he went to in Missoula, he took my nephew when he was just a little kid. He had never gone to a game like that and was super excited about it. He and Dad were using the rest room before kickoff and a Griz fan looked over and said, "Hey, look at this little faggot with the Bobcat outfit." Dad wasn't interested in a confrontation, so he just told the guy that was really uncalled for, especially with a little kid... and left it at that. That was their last game there. I hope things like that are not what Gtapp means when he said he let that kid have it.

[catatac]

I’m married to a gris alum. She won’t cheer for them especially with hawktua at the helm. I love her dearly.

Now let’s be honest. I hate the gris. I guess I’m closer to the gtapp theory than most of you. I grew up through the streak. Bobcats put up with so much BS during that timeframe that it is unforgivable. There clearly not been enough Bobcat wins to erase that holier than thou BS that still oozes from the streak. Their ignorance to the fact that the Cats have dominated the rivalry for the past 10 years is proof that the streak is still in their vocabularies.
Sure I have friends that are gris and I’ve had employees that played football for them. We get along just fine. I’m capable of seeing that they can be good too but that doesn’t mean I’ll ever root for them. Au contraire! I’d root for the Iraqi National team before I’d root for them buttholes.

Pound your chest gtapp. I’m with you on this one!

FTG

Like a lot of things in life, when you're going through a lot of pain, it's really hard to see the light and realize that everything happens for a reason. Looking back, I am absolutely grateful for the streak and glad it happened. Was a lot of pain for a lot of years but I truly believe that if not for that streak, we would not be where we are today. Look as us now..... we OWN this state and are dominating them in almost every way imaginable. A bunch of posters were on here saying they would rather beat some random team here in the semi's, than beat the Griz again... because something like getting able to see teams from other parts of the country. F that. I pray they have to come to Bozeman and we absolutely crush the life out of them.

[BobcatDel]

And now we’re fighting about fighting with gris fans? Cool cool

Look, I get the hate. I do. I’ve had some truly awful interactions with gris fans and alums. I’ve been assaulted over it, my family insulted, my safety threatened, and in one case, my career threatened. When I say, “FTG!” I mean it. I have a special hate for them and their fans.

I’m still going to be a composed winner, but I am going to enjoy it. And while I don’t wish on anyone what’s been done to me, I very much wish that team nothing but the worst for the next twenty years. The Streak poisoned the rivalry and there’s a healthy set of gris faithful that need a reset.

Go CATS!!

Thanks for the post. I’ve been quietly watching and reading. You are closer to where I stand. You hear about things happening to others but until you have personally experienced it…..perhaps it’s not easy to fully understand the anger which is implanted. Such as a roommate being attacked physically walking his girlfriend to the car. Or myself sitting enjoying conversation with a group a friends and being assaulted from behind by someone I had never seen or said a word to and didn’t even see it coming….but I probably had a Cat tee shirt on. Or girlfriend insulted for being with you. Or being an organizer of a watch party in Texas and having a Griz fan trying to fight every Cat fan in the room to the point I nearly called the police. Just too many bad memories that makes me have no desire to go to Missoula anymore and has hardened my heart.

With that being said, my wife and I volunteered to be Bobcat coordinators for watch parties in several states as we moved about the nation in my 40 year career. Most of the parties we were both Bobcat and Griz fans and we worked with the Griz coordinators to make the events happen which was fun and easy to do and one couple became good friends. Being Montanans I enjoyed visiting with the other Montana folks in attendance no matter what color shirt they had on. And I will even lower myself by admitting that when the Griz got in the playoffs I kinda wanted them to win……except when Hauck returned. You won’t see me rooting for them as long as he is there. We still have good friends who are Griz and I have family that are Griz but the relationship is just good natured ribbing. And I don’t try to insult Griz fans but I will cheer as loud as I want a say what I want when rooting for the Cats.

So I am sympathetic to gtapp position….in my many decades, I’ve learned until we’ve walked in someone else’s shoes to know what they experienced…well I can’t be critical or judgemental….. and certainly won’t proclaim I am holier than thou.

[KIX]

Most all of us have had a comment at one time or another about an opposing team, especially one over the hill. More so we’ve had comments about their fans or at least I know I have. Going forward I hope I choose humility, but still have confidence in my Montana State Bobcats.

I sat in the north end zone dead center about eight rows from the top on Saturday and was surrounded by some pretty good fans. The amazing thing was after the game. I still ran into real knot heads that felt cheated after watching their team Play the best game of the year in front of their record setting crowd and yet lost. they came across as feeling cheated and angry.

Got to admit, I felt sorry for them. But had great conversations with other opposing fans on my way out.
Go Bobcats. Stay humble, work hard, take nothing for granted and play to the best your abilities, which I think will carry you the whole way to the end of the year

My gris fan friends always have the same two comments when they loose....never fails..."we gave them the win" and "the outcome was not what we wanted, but..."

[catatac]

And now we’re fighting about fighting with gris fans? Cool cool

Look, I get the hate. I do. I’ve had some truly awful interactions with gris fans and alums. I’ve been assaulted over it, my family insulted, my safety threatened, and in one case, my career threatened. When I say, “FTG!” I mean it. I have a special hate for them and their fans.

I’m still going to be a composed winner, but I am going to enjoy it. And while I don’t wish on anyone what’s been done to me, I very much wish that team nothing but the worst for the next twenty years. The Streak poisoned the rivalry and there’s a healthy set of gris faithful that need a reset.

Go CATS!!

Thanks for the post. I’ve been quietly watching and reading. You are closer to where I stand. You hear about things happening to others but until you have personally experienced it…..perhaps it’s not easy to fully understand the anger which is implanted. Such as a roommate being attacked physically walking his girlfriend to the car. Or myself sitting enjoying conversation with a group a friends and being assaulted from behind by someone I had never seen or said a word to and didn’t even see it coming….but I probably had a Cat tee shirt on. Or girlfriend insulted for being with you. Or being an organizer of a watch party in Texas and having a Griz fan trying to fight every Cat fan in the room to the point I nearly called the police. Just too many bad memories that makes me have no desire to go to Missoula anymore and has hardened my heart.

With that being said, my wife and I volunteered to be Bobcat coordinators for watch parties in several states as we moved about the nation in my 40 year career. Most of the parties we were both Bobcat and Griz fans and we worked with the Griz coordinators to make the events happen which was fun and easy to do and one couple became good friends. Being Montanans I enjoyed visiting with the other Montana folks in attendance no matter what color shirt they had on. And I will even lower myself by admitting that when the Griz got in the playoffs kinda wanted them to win……except when Hauck returned. You won’t see me rooting for them as long as he is there. We still have good friends who are Griz and I have family that are Griz but the relationship is just good natured ribbing. And I don’t try to insult Griz fans but I will cheer as loud as I want a say what I want when rooting for the Cats.

So I am sympathetic to gtapp position….in my many decades, I’ve learned until we’ve walked in someone else’s shoes to know what they experienced…well I can’t be critical or judgemental….. and certainly won’t proclaim I am holier than thou.

This is completely foreign to me, but not judging... you do you. The ONLY time I would ever "want" them to win is if it somehow helps the Bobcats. Or, as I said in a different post, I guess I am OK with them winning a couple game in the playoffs here if it means they get to come to Bozeman and get pounded. Other than that, I will always root hard for them to lose every game by as much as possible.

[Cats92]

I got bullied regularly from elementary school through high school by both my peers and their parents as it seemed like I was one of the 12 cat fans in Yellowstone county. I hope they lose every game ever. Don’t have any ill will towards any of their players but the fans now crying for some decency from cat fans and players is a bit hypocritical to say the least.

[BelligerentBobcat]

I’m married to a gris alum. She won’t cheer for them especially with hawktua at the helm. I love her dearly.

Now let’s be honest. I hate the gris. I guess I’m closer to the gtapp theory than most of you. I grew up through the streak. Bobcats put up with so much BS during that timeframe that it is unforgivable. There clearly not been enough Bobcat wins to erase that holier than thou BS that still oozes from the streak. Their ignorance to the fact that the Cats have dominated the rivalry for the past 10 years is proof that the streak is still in their vocabularies.
Sure I have friends that are gris and I’ve had employees that played football for them. We get along just fine. I’m capable of seeing that they can be good too but that doesn’t mean I’ll ever root for them. Au contraire! I’d root for the Iraqi National team before I’d root for them buttholes.

Pound your chest gtapp. I’m with you on this one!

FTG

Nobody is saying we need to cheer for the Griz. I certainly don’t. More just, you know, be a decent human to the fans. Sure some of them are going to be assholes, but if we return the favor it’s just keeping the cycle going. We can all be better. I’m fine with friendly smack talk, it’s fun! But when people start making it personal, there are real issues at hand. At the end of the day it’s just a game, and I feel bad for the people who have to make their fandom their entire personality.

[grizzh8r]

I’m married to a gris alum. She won’t cheer for them especially with hawktua at the helm. I love her dearly.

Now let’s be honest. I hate the gris. I guess I’m closer to the gtapp theory than most of you. I grew up through the streak. Bobcats put up with so much BS during that timeframe that it is unforgivable. There clearly not been enough Bobcat wins to erase that holier than thou BS that still oozes from the streak. Their ignorance to the fact that the Cats have dominated the rivalry for the past 10 years is proof that the streak is still in their vocabularies.
Sure I have friends that are gris and I’ve had employees that played football for them. We get along just fine. I’m capable of seeing that they can be good too but that doesn’t mean I’ll ever root for them. Au contraire! I’d root for the Iraqi National team before I’d root for them buttholes.

Pound your chest gtapp. I’m with you on this one!

FTG

Like a lot of things in life, when you're going through a lot of pain, it's really hard to see the light and realize that everything happens for a reason. Looking back, I am absolutely grateful for the streak and glad it happened. Was a lot of pain for a lot of years but I truly believe that if not for that streak, we would not be where we are today. Look as us now..... we OWN this state and are dominating them in almost every way imaginable. A bunch of posters were on here saying they would rather beat some random team here in the semi's, than beat the Griz again... because something like getting able to see teams from other parts of the country. F that. I pray they have to come to Bozeman and we absolutely crush the life out of them.

I was one of the ones who said that, but it may have been misinterpreted. Make no mistake, I hope to see a different teams along the way because the gris LOST their first playoff game and are at home on the couch watching the rest of the playoffs.

As many have said on here, my two favorite teams are the Bobcats and whoever is playing the gris.

[Bobcat4Ever]

Don’t get me wrong about wanting to see other teams. I dislike anything gris-related so much that I simply do not want them to even walk into Bobcat Stadium.

Two college-age female friends of our family decided it would be fun to go to a ‘Cat-gris men’s basketball game, since one was already working in Missoula. So her sister drove over from Bozeman, picked up the Missoula one (she has some eye issues), and drove to the game. They were parked somewhere that they took the walking bridge onto the campus. After the game they picked up their car, and turned up onto the freeway. In no time at all the car started shaking violently and screaming in pain. They pulled over and found that the lug nuts had been loosened slightly on all four wheels and were now unwinding themselves. Just for parking in Missoula on a game night with Gallatin County plates.

Having been a Bobcat fan for over 70 years, watching our facilities including the Fieldhouse and Reno H Sales Stadium being constructed, spending a lot of time there watching FB, MBB, SBB and VB and occasionally track, those places hold a pretty deep feeling to me. And I simply cannot abide seeing teams and fans come in there without respect. So, no harm meant. I myself am overjoyed to watch a playoff game with anyone but the gris — enjoying the fact that they are sitting at home trying to find an infomercial to watch instead of another Bobcat victory!

Go, ‘Cats, Go! Bobcats forever!

[AFCAT]

Don’t get me wrong about wanting to see other teams. I dislike anything gris-related so much that I simply do not want them to even walk into Bobcat Stadium.

Two college-age female friends of our family decided it would be fun to go to a ‘Cat-gris men’s basketball game, since one was already working in Missoula. So her sister drove over from Bozeman, picked up the Missoula one (she has some eye issues), and drove to the game. They were parked somewhere that they took the walking bridge onto the campus. After the game they picked up their car, and turned up onto the freeway. In no time at all the car started shaking violently and screaming in pain. They pulled over and found that the lug nuts had been loosened slightly on all four wheels and were now unwinding themselves. Just for parking in Missoula on a game night with Gallatin County plates.

Having been a Bobcat fan for over 70 years, watching our facilities including the Fieldhouse and Reno H Sales Stadium being constructed, spending a lot of time there watching FB, MBB, SBB and VB and occasionally track, those places hold a pretty deep feeling to me. And I simply cannot abide seeing teams and fans come in there without respect. So, no harm meant. I myself am overjoyed to watch a playoff game with anyone but the gris — enjoying the fact that they are sitting at home trying to find an infomercial to watch instead of another Bobcat victory!

Go, ‘Cats, Go! Bobcats forever!

The last time I watched a Cat-gris game in Missoula was back in 1984. My mom’s car was also vandalized. She had a Cat sticker in the back window. We also had issues with the gris fans in the stands, shouting slurs at my mom and throwing stuff at us. That was before all the real hatred started. I remember never missing the gris football coaches show on TV as a kid and actually rooting for them, even though they were mostly a second rate Big Sky team in the 70s thru the mid 80s. I even rooted for their women’s basketball team in the 90s and always thought it was cool to see Krystkowiak and Richardson in the NBA.

Now, I hope for nothing but failure in their sports program. You can thank Hauck for that. I don’t hold a lot of animosity towards their fans, but I’ve had a couple of them be tremendously rude to my family, simply because we were wearing Cat gear out in public.

FTG, all day, every day.

[Augustus]

Au contraire! I’d root for the Iraqi National team before I’d root for them buttholes.

I've long said that my two favorite football teams are the Cats and whoever is playing the gris.

[The Big Meowski]

“What does Hubris mean?”
-some gris fan

[ilovethecats]

Whoa. Wild thread

[Long Time Cat]

I had never been to a game at Wagriz Stadium before, but a friend found a couple tickets for me almost for free. I also felt like the Cats would win so it seemed like a good chance to go. I almost didn’t go because of all of the crap I’ve heard about Griz fans over the years being rude and nasty, etc.. Some even claimed it could be dangerous to go to a game there. I went with a young man who is big and strong just in case. Well I found none of those claims to be true. Every Griz fan that I talked to, whether it was before, during, or after the game was decent at least and many of them down right nice. Sure they were some nasty things yelled at our players and coaches, but I’ve heard much worse at the Eastern Washington games i’ve gone to.
One more thing I thought was hype that turned out to be true is how loud it is in there. Our seats were on the side but very close to the north end zone and it’s loud enough to make your ears hurt. At least it made my ears hurt.
Maybe I got lucky but I’m really glad I went and would go again in a heartbeat.

[WalkOn79]

We’re back in our rightful place as the best program in Montana in the modern era!! We won 16 out of 20 from grade school through college for me. I don’t think about the streak any more at all because all is right with the world again. 7-2 baby!!