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Re: Cats vs. Idaho Predictions

Post by OldCat32 » Tue Oct 08, 2024 11:04 am

I’m thinking this may be a defensive battle with a relatively low score:
Cats 17 Taters 9



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Re: Cats vs. Idaho Predictions

Post by BelligerentBobcat » Tue Oct 08, 2024 11:14 am

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Interesting comment from Jason Eck. He said he hoped MSU still lets fans leave the stadium at halftime, because that first series in the third quarter is a good time to get things done. He has the hindsight of having coached at MSU and being there with SDSU, but it’s food for thought when an administrative policy becomes part of the opponent’s game plan.
It's a problem. And while this is an unpopular opinion here on ol' Bobcat Nation; no re-entry should be policy. That way, there is no issue about an empty stadium at the second-half kick.
When I went to the Idaho game last year, I really enjoyed the no entry policy. Place was full! Downsides were the lines for beer were very long, concourse was incredibly full.

Reality is that at minimum, 1/4 of the people who go to the games are just there for the party. So they’re going to go out at halftime, drink a bunch, and meander back in when convenient. I’m not sure if you can change that. A lot of people wouldn’t come if you do no re-entry. I don’t really drink much, so to me it’s no big deal, but to those who probably don’t remember what game they watched the next day, they care.
ISU has a no re-entry policy too. I'm sure it's nice for the band to have a full house for their performance, and certainly having everyone there for the start to the 2nd half is a benefit. Can't see MSU implementing that now, but maybe they should?
They’ll lose way too much money by implementing it.

What they should do, is have more beer in the stadium and have it be easily accessible to incentivize people to stay. Stop serving after halftime or something, idk.



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Re: Cats vs. Idaho Predictions

Post by Bobcat Sig » Tue Oct 08, 2024 11:19 am

I love to tailgate just as much as anyone. But through the years, no matter how I try or urge those I tailgate with; rarely are we back in the stadium before the second-half kick. And while I'm sensitive to the removal of choice - as a no re-entry policy would limit choice - it's also a choice to be there for our team. That's all.


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Re: Cats vs. Idaho Predictions

Post by Bobcat Sig » Tue Oct 08, 2024 11:19 am

BelligerentBobcat wrote:
Tue Oct 08, 2024 11:14 am
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Interesting comment from Jason Eck. He said he hoped MSU still lets fans leave the stadium at halftime, because that first series in the third quarter is a good time to get things done. He has the hindsight of having coached at MSU and being there with SDSU, but it’s food for thought when an administrative policy becomes part of the opponent’s game plan.
It's a problem. And while this is an unpopular opinion here on ol' Bobcat Nation; no re-entry should be policy. That way, there is no issue about an empty stadium at the second-half kick.
When I went to the Idaho game last year, I really enjoyed the no entry policy. Place was full! Downsides were the lines for beer were very long, concourse was incredibly full.

Reality is that at minimum, 1/4 of the people who go to the games are just there for the party. So they’re going to go out at halftime, drink a bunch, and meander back in when convenient. I’m not sure if you can change that. A lot of people wouldn’t come if you do no re-entry. I don’t really drink much, so to me it’s no big deal, but to those who probably don’t remember what game they watched the next day, they care.
ISU has a no re-entry policy too. I'm sure it's nice for the band to have a full house for their performance, and certainly having everyone there for the start to the 2nd half is a benefit. Can't see MSU implementing that now, but maybe they should?
They’ll lose way too much money by implementing it.

What they should do, is have more beer in the stadium and have it be easily accessible to incentivize people to stay. Stop serving after halftime or something, idk.
I love that idea. It would likely reduce the amount of fans exiting to tailgate.


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Re: Cats vs. Idaho Predictions

Post by CodyCat » Tue Oct 08, 2024 11:25 am

The Montana schools are some of, if not, the last schools (Im thinking of schools who actually have football programs, not the NoCo's of the world) to not a have no reentry policy. I'd like to see it implemented. But, only if they allow tailgate set ups very early in the day and allow take down on Sunday. I do not think it would affect attendance. I am also in favor of figuring out how fans can more easily get a beer inside the stadium. I over heard someone on Saturday say a beer is $12. Is that true???


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Re: Cats vs. Idaho Predictions

Post by CelticCat » Tue Oct 08, 2024 11:31 am

I tend to say let the no re-entry policy stay. It is what it is, it sucks but like others have said you have to just accept that a good number of people that are at the game aren't there for the game. MSU games have become the thing to do on a Saturday in Bozeman and I vote not to jeopardize that.

I haven't been on the Idaho hype train as much as other people have, there were people clamoring for them to be ranked #1 after they started 2-1 with a "ranked" win over Albany. I think they are a top 10 team for sure, maybe top 5 when healthy but there is a lot of hat-hanging on the Oregon loss and Wyoming win. ACU I think has turned into their best win, they handed then #5 UCA their first FCS loss Saturday, and Sam Herder has them at #9. And it was on the road. Gritty win.

But they have looked less than impressive the last two weeks in a road loss to UCD and an uninspiring homecoming win against top 25 NAU team at home that may have turned out differently if NAU's starting QB hadn't gotten knocked out last in the 1st half. (yes I know Idaho is way down on the depth chart at QB as well)

Now all of that said, their defense is the real deal and their run defense in particular scares me. We are going to have to do a more efficient job running the ball than we have the last few weeks, and that might mean involving Tommy a bit more. And we'll need to continue to open up the playbook and strive for a more balanced attack. I think we are up to the task.

Defensively, Elisha Cummings is a really good back and we've covered up some mistakes on defense the last few weeks by out-athleting the other team (a cut back run by UNC that O'Reilly saved comes to mind) but we can't afford to over pursue and get out of our assignments Saturday. If everyone does their 1/11th and stays on their assignment I think we can really limit Idaho and their TOP game they will likely try to employ again.

This is a night game in Bozeman, on ESPN2, fans will be rocking and the players will have revenge on the mind.


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Re: Cats vs. Idaho Predictions

Post by LoggerCat » Tue Oct 08, 2024 11:45 am

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The Montana schools are some of, if not, the last schools (Im thinking of schools who actually have football programs, not the NoCo's of the world) to not a have no reentry policy. I'd like to see it implemented. But, only if they allow tailgate set ups very early in the day and allow take down on Sunday. I do not think it would affect attendance. I am also in favor of figuring out how fans can more easily get a beer inside the stadium. I over heard someone on Saturday say a beer is $12. Is that true???

12 bucks?! I’m glad you said something, I’ll have to bring more cash.



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Re: Cats vs. Idaho Predictions

Post by tetoncat » Tue Oct 08, 2024 12:16 pm

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I love to tailgate just as much as anyone. But through the years, no matter how I try or urge those I tailgate with; rarely are we back in the stadium before the second-half kick. And while I'm sensitive to the removal of choice - as a no re-entry policy would limit choice - it's also a choice to be there for our team. That's all.
Allow tailgates to stay open longer after the game. A lot are not just out there to drink but see friends from across the state and likely don't sit by. With travel at most you get is couple hours before, so many get their beer but 20-30 minutes more with friends. Extending it after the game, beer available inside (and may a larger fenced area for it) I think most would be okay not leaving.


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Re: Cats vs. Idaho Predictions

Post by smith427 » Tue Oct 08, 2024 12:26 pm

tetoncat wrote:
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I love to tailgate just as much as anyone. But through the years, no matter how I try or urge those I tailgate with; rarely are we back in the stadium before the second-half kick. And while I'm sensitive to the removal of choice - as a no re-entry policy would limit choice - it's also a choice to be there for our team. That's all.
Allow tailgates to stay open longer after the game. A lot are not just out there to drink but see friends from across the state and likely don't sit by. With travel at most you get is couple hours before, so many get their beer but 20-30 minutes more with friends. Extending it after the game, beer available inside (and may a larger fenced area for it) I think most would be okay not leaving.
I don't know how the beer-in-stadium works now with fenced areas, but I love MLB games where they just have people walking the stands with beer for sale. That would reduce the traffic at concessions for beer if people can get another round at their seats. Probably not feasible with whatever rules they have to abide by though :-({|=


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Re: Cats vs. Idaho Predictions

Post by hokeyfine » Tue Oct 08, 2024 1:15 pm

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Don't feel real good about this game. Idaho defense is good, kid from helena is a great end.



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Re: Cats vs. Idaho Predictions

Post by coloradocat » Tue Oct 08, 2024 1:19 pm

CodyCat wrote:
Tue Oct 08, 2024 11:25 am
The Montana schools are some of, if not, the last schools (Im thinking of schools who actually have football programs, not the NoCo's of the world) to not a have no reentry policy. I'd like to see it implemented. But, only if they allow tailgate set ups very early in the day and allow take down on Sunday. I do not think it would affect attendance. I am also in favor of figuring out how fans can more easily get a beer inside the stadium. I over heard someone on Saturday say a beer is $12. Is that true???
I won't support a no re-entry policy until beer is affordable and available in multiple locations in the stadium. So never.


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Re: Cats vs. Idaho Predictions

Post by nanacat » Tue Oct 08, 2024 1:37 pm

BelligerentBobcat wrote:
Tue Oct 08, 2024 11:14 am
nanacat wrote:
Tue Oct 08, 2024 10:50 am
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Tue Oct 08, 2024 8:50 am
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Interesting comment from Jason Eck. He said he hoped MSU still lets fans leave the stadium at halftime, because that first series in the third quarter is a good time to get things done. He has the hindsight of having coached at MSU and being there with SDSU, but it’s food for thought when an administrative policy becomes part of the opponent’s game plan.
It's a problem. And while this is an unpopular opinion here on ol' Bobcat Nation; no re-entry should be policy. That way, there is no issue about an empty stadium at the second-half kick.
When I went to the Idaho game last year, I really enjoyed the no entry policy. Place was full! Downsides were the lines for beer were very long, concourse was incredibly full.

Reality is that at minimum, 1/4 of the people who go to the games are just there for the party. So they’re going to go out at halftime, drink a bunch, and meander back in when convenient. I’m not sure if you can change that. A lot of people wouldn’t come if you do no re-entry. I don’t really drink much, so to me it’s no big deal, but to those who probably don’t remember what game they watched the next day, they care.
ISU has a no re-entry policy too. I'm sure it's nice for the band to have a full house for their performance, and certainly having everyone there for the start to the 2nd half is a benefit. Can't see MSU implementing that now, but maybe they should?
They’ll lose way too much money by implementing it.

What they should do, is have more beer in the stadium and have it be easily accessible to incentivize people to stay. Stop serving after halftime or something, idk.
It would be nice if fans would just tailgate before the game and then stay. Support the marching band's performance, be there for the 2nd half kickoff, etc. You're probably correct that having beer more available could help, but ultimately it's a mindset, and priorities. This game Saturday is huge, so hopefully the fans realize that and stick it out the whole game!



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Re: Cats vs. Idaho Predictions

Post by kwcat » Tue Oct 08, 2024 1:40 pm

BelligerentBobcat wrote:
Tue Oct 08, 2024 11:14 am
nanacat wrote:
Tue Oct 08, 2024 10:50 am
BelligerentBobcat wrote:
Tue Oct 08, 2024 8:50 am
Bobcat Sig wrote:
Tue Oct 08, 2024 8:16 am
Bobcat4Ever wrote:
Tue Oct 08, 2024 12:29 am
Interesting comment from Jason Eck. He said he hoped MSU still lets fans leave the stadium at halftime, because that first series in the third quarter is a good time to get things done. He has the hindsight of having coached at MSU and being there with SDSU, but it’s food for thought when an administrative policy becomes part of the opponent’s game plan.
It's a problem. And while this is an unpopular opinion here on ol' Bobcat Nation; no re-entry should be policy. That way, there is no issue about an empty stadium at the second-half kick.
When I went to the Idaho game last year, I really enjoyed the no entry policy. Place was full! Downsides were the lines for beer were very long, concourse was incredibly full.

Reality is that at minimum, 1/4 of the people who go to the games are just there for the party. So they’re going to go out at halftime, drink a bunch, and meander back in when convenient. I’m not sure if you can change that. A lot of people wouldn’t come if you do no re-entry. I don’t really drink much, so to me it’s no big deal, but to those who probably don’t remember what game they watched the next day, they care.
ISU has a no re-entry policy too. I'm sure it's nice for the band to have a full house for their performance, and certainly having everyone there for the start to the 2nd half is a benefit. Can't see MSU implementing that now, but maybe they should?
They’ll lose way too much money by implementing it.

What they should do, is have more beer in the stadium and have it be easily accessible to incentivize people to stay. Stop serving after halftime or something, idk.
We had a tailgate committee meeting a few years back with Waded Cruzado.
Bottom line MSU does not have the facilities to efficiently serve anything at the moment. Let alone the impact on the bathrooms and the outhouses. That was disclosed by MSU when the conversation was about no reentry after halftime. Also, several large boosters stated that the majority of the individuals that received their tickets, are there for the social experience and probably would not return after halftime.
This year we’ve had several games that are not very interesting and thus people don’t return after halftime or are late coming back in after halftime.
I tailgate early and very seldom go outside at halftime. My choice.



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Re: Cats vs. Idaho Predictions

Post by ilovethecats » Tue Oct 08, 2024 1:44 pm

I think the beer plays a part but I don't think it's the main reason people leave at halftime. As someone mentioned, people travel from all over the state to make it to games and see their friends. That won't change regardless if there was beer in the stadium. Hell, I live in Bozeman and there are many people that I only see at football games. I understand the sentiment but I really don't think fans working their way back to their seats a few minutes into the 3rd quarter is all that big of a deal.

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Re: Cats vs. Idaho Predictions

Post by GoldstoneCat » Tue Oct 08, 2024 1:51 pm

This is going to be a short game. They're going to want to limit our possessions again and we will still work to establish the run. Within that context though I don't think the game is that close. They won't score enough to keep up. 34-17 cats.



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Re: Cats vs. Idaho Predictions

Post by justafan » Tue Oct 08, 2024 1:52 pm

hokeyfine wrote:
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Don't feel real good about this game. Idaho defense is good, kid from helena is a great end.
gotta admit I did not want to be the first but I feel the same. gut tells me 28-21 not for the good guys. sportsbet has us a 5.5 fav o/u 53.5



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Re: Cats vs. Idaho Predictions

Post by catscat » Tue Oct 08, 2024 1:59 pm

The two biggest problems I have with no re-entry are having to lug extra clothing into the stadium (just in case) and availability of timely access to rest rooms. I (or my wife) have left the stadium for both. You don't have these issues in domes or other places due to either climate or lack of crowd size. Beer in the stadium would likely exacerbate the insufficient rest room issue.

But on to Idaho. I think their loss to Davis and close game with NAU are telling. They will be no match for the Bobcats at home and it won't matter whether ID gets the ball to start the second half or not.


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Re: Cats vs. Idaho Predictions

Post by BelligerentBobcat » Tue Oct 08, 2024 2:43 pm

nanacat wrote:
Tue Oct 08, 2024 1:37 pm
BelligerentBobcat wrote:
Tue Oct 08, 2024 11:14 am
nanacat wrote:
Tue Oct 08, 2024 10:50 am
BelligerentBobcat wrote:
Tue Oct 08, 2024 8:50 am
Bobcat Sig wrote:
Tue Oct 08, 2024 8:16 am
Bobcat4Ever wrote:
Tue Oct 08, 2024 12:29 am
Interesting comment from Jason Eck. He said he hoped MSU still lets fans leave the stadium at halftime, because that first series in the third quarter is a good time to get things done. He has the hindsight of having coached at MSU and being there with SDSU, but it’s food for thought when an administrative policy becomes part of the opponent’s game plan.
It's a problem. And while this is an unpopular opinion here on ol' Bobcat Nation; no re-entry should be policy. That way, there is no issue about an empty stadium at the second-half kick.
When I went to the Idaho game last year, I really enjoyed the no entry policy. Place was full! Downsides were the lines for beer were very long, concourse was incredibly full.

Reality is that at minimum, 1/4 of the people who go to the games are just there for the party. So they’re going to go out at halftime, drink a bunch, and meander back in when convenient. I’m not sure if you can change that. A lot of people wouldn’t come if you do no re-entry. I don’t really drink much, so to me it’s no big deal, but to those who probably don’t remember what game they watched the next day, they care.
ISU has a no re-entry policy too. I'm sure it's nice for the band to have a full house for their performance, and certainly having everyone there for the start to the 2nd half is a benefit. Can't see MSU implementing that now, but maybe they should?
They’ll lose way too much money by implementing it.

What they should do, is have more beer in the stadium and have it be easily accessible to incentivize people to stay. Stop serving after halftime or something, idk.
It would be nice if fans would just tailgate before the game and then stay. Support the marching band's performance, be there for the 2nd half kickoff, etc. You're probably correct that having beer more available could help, but ultimately it's a mindset, and priorities. This game Saturday is huge, so hopefully the fans realize that and stick it out the whole game!
I’ll probably catch some flack for this, but I really just do not care at all about the marching band at halftime. I’ll never forget them playing “American Idiot” during the Military Appreciation game a few years ago. They could be completely gone and it would really only change things for the better.



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Re: Cats vs. Idaho Predictions

Post by damnyoutuesday » Tue Oct 08, 2024 3:48 pm

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And I am anti no-reentry. Always fun to go out to the tailgate and have a halftime discussion about the game



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Re: Cats vs. Idaho Predictions

Post by tdub » Wed Oct 09, 2024 10:03 am

ilovethecats wrote:
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Cats win toss, defer, get ball and run a 14 play 75 yd drive eating up 8 mins of clock.
Problem solved.

Stop trying to deny peoples freedom to roam, open more gates to get the crowd in faster. That is the real problem.

Why do sky boxers get a dedicated entrance??????????????? While everyone on the west side languishes in line????????????
"Sky boxers" have their own entrance? I have a suite and I am unaware of this. :-k
The one by the Ipf. Big sign, suite entrance only.
That's incredible I never noticed. However I get there early to stock it up and get food going but I had no clue there was an entrance exclusive to suite holders. #-o
I’ll have to look at this. We go in that west entrance by the new facility and we don’t have a box. I’ve never noticed a sign. But I’ve normally been tailgating for quite some time and my give-a-s#!t factor about my surroundings probably isn’t very high :lol:


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