The Official-unofficial Bobcat-Weber game day thread

[MSU01]

This needs to be on Sports Center.

Isn't that targeting at the end of this play? Being somewhat sarcastic here, but there is a ton of helmet to helmet contact that isn't called.

Also I don't mind a little bravado I guess what bothers me on this play is Davis taking a moment off of his concentration on the play to make a statement. After the play or after the game is more appropriate in my eyes.

Helmet to helmet contact isn't always targeting. In this case I think it's a clean tackle as the contact isn't forcible and the player isn't lowering his head to make the initial contact. I agree that the call against Danny U seemed pretty weak and that sometimes there doesn't seem to be consistency about what is and isn't targeting from game to game.

[catscat]

This needs to be on Sports Center.

Isn't that targeting at the end of this play? Being somewhat sarcastic here, but there is a ton of helmet to helmet contact that isn't called.

Also I don't mind a little bravado I guess what bothers me on this play is Davis taking a moment off of his concentration on the play to make a statement. After the play or after the game is more appropriate in my eyes.

Helmet to helmet contact isn't always targeting. In this case I think it's a clean tackle as the contact isn't forcible and the player isn't lowering his head to make the initial contact. I agree that the call against Danny U seemed pretty weak and that sometimes there doesn't seem to be consistency about what is and isn't targeting from game to game.

Every bit as much targeting as the targeting Danny U got called for and probably more as this was at speed.

[CelticCat]

I have yet to see the game, but that run and kiss is AWESOME! Great attitude!

As a fan, yes, I laughed as well……. But I am guessing Vigen will be having a little “chat” with Julius this week. Not the type of behavior he approves of. Haha

Julius was super chirpy this game, every play he was talking trash to a Weber player or their sideline. I love the intensity, but he probably needs to pump the breaks on the trash talking.

I rewatch the game and closely paid attention to the after the play stuff. The first half was pretty clean, normal celebration stuff. On our first drive after our first touchdown, Weber defense really intensified and there was one play where a Weber player was taunting a little but nothing much. There was a little scuffle after the long Chambers TD run after Connor Moore plowed into a Weber defender after Chambers was already past them and the Weber defender grabbed Moore by the jersey and just took them both down and they got tangled getting up, which caused some pushing and shoving.

Half time is when the alleged "bad behavior" by MSU happened, with their marching band and color guard. MSU players were definitely warming up into the marching band, they started near them and then the band did a sideways maneuver and the band had to navigate around MSU players. I think MSU players came onto the field a little early and Weber band stayed on too late. Bad combination. Weber fans are saying MSU is the most classless, disrespectful team they've ever seen in Ogden.

Anyways, Weber kicks off and it's a touchback but a Weber player intentionally runs into Marqui Johnson as Johnson was just trotting back to the sideline, a decent shoulder tap. The first play from scrimmage, Davis runs left and ends up in the Weber sideline. He gets facemasked (again) with no call, and a Weber player in a yellow jersey jaws at Davis, and Davis jaws back at him signaling facemask. The next Davis run (like 2 plays later) ends up near the Weber sideline again, and Davis this time turns and taunts the guy who ran him out of bounds (the guy just walks away).

First Weber drive of the 2nd half, Weisser completes a pass and Danny U levels the WR, gets up and does a taunt to our sideline, right next to a Weber player who proceeds to shove Danny. Again, nothing much but things are starting to itensify. Very next play, 3rd and short Grebe makes a great tackle just short of the first down and Ben Seymour is getting blocked by a Weber OL. The whistle blows a little late but the OL continues to push and block Seymour and ends up pushing him over the pile well after the whistle. A few MSU players shove the guy but walk away but the Weber OL is still pointing and is upset about something, teammates have to hold him back a bit, even though he's the one who caused the scuffle. The very next play is the 4th and one (which there is no way Weisser got) and Jon Johnson and #84 are going at it away from the pile, before and after the play, and #84 gets a unsportsmanlike. The TV angle doesn't show it, you and only see their feet. So we have 3 straight plays with some extra gunk and the first unsportsmanlike comes from this series of events. After a Weisser flush and incomplete pass following the penalty on #84, the next play is when Danny U gets ejected for targeting. So we have a sequence where 4 of the previous 5 plays end up with a flag or a scuffle. Cats end up stopping Weber on 4th and 2 when they throw a fade to the corner that is well covered by Johnson.

The very next play after the Cats take over is the Davis Smooch run, so he's been clearly festering over there on the sidelines. He yet again ends up getting push into the Weber sidelines but this time comes away with no taunting, by him or anybody else. This series ends with an MSU punt after White is stuffed on a 3rd and 7 run, but White gets up and is talking and raising his hands towards someone from Weber, but I can't figure out who or why. On the punt a Weber defender shoves Powdrell down and out of bounds (a good block), but then stands over and taunts him and draws a flag. 2nd unsportsmanlike on Weber at this point.

Seymour gets an unsportsmanlike on Weber's drive after the 2nd Chambers to Pickering TD (4th quarter now), a Weber OL is blocking him to the ground and then continuers to block him (dropped pass during this time) off camera, I assume Seymour gets up and takes offense to it and does something. Seems like a good to the whistle block by the Weber OL to me but you can't see the whole play. Seymour redeems himself a few plays later by sacking Weisser on a 4th and 1 when Weber decided to to a drop back pass...

Ensuing MSU drive a Weber DL sacks Chambers, keeps driving him back and tosses him violently to the ground after the whistle and gets called for the unsportsmanlike. Now the Weber crowd is raining down boos. Cats end up scoring a TD and you can tell Weber has broken at this point. The backups come in and the rest of the game goes by without any events.

Obviously from TV you can't see everything and you certainly can't hear what is being said, but overall it was mildly chippy but and I didn't think either team had any dirty plays, minus maybe the Danny U hit but I'm still not convinced that was targeting, but he didn't need to dive on the guy regardless.

[mslacatfan]

Regarding the “blowing a kiss” play…. I think it’s actually not accurate at all….

I read somewhere that he was in fact signaling to the ref that he was face masked.

[wbtfg]

Regarding the “blowing a kiss” play…. I think it’s actually not accurate at all….

I read somewhere that he was in fact signaling to the ref that he was face masked.

He was definitely blowing a kiss. And it was epic....haha

[BleedingBLue]

Regarding the “blowing a kiss” play…. I think it’s actually not accurate at all….

I read somewhere that he was in fact signaling to the ref that he was face masked.

He was definitely blowing a kiss. And it was epic....haha

100% Not sure how you could look at that video and think anything other than that. Not to mention he was looking at players 5-10 yards behind the line of scrimmage, and the closest official is on the LOS.

[WalkOn79]

Is anybody else convinced that Reid is far from the best defender in the Big Sky? I would take all three of our linebackers over him. Same speed, quickness and strength, but our guys play with some discipline.

[CatBot]

Is anybody else convinced that Reid is far from the best defender in the Big Sky? I would take all three of our linebackers over him. Same speed, quickness and strength, but our guys play with some discipline.

We have a history of making elite linebackers look mid, including several All American gris players. That's good for the Cats obviously, but I'm not sure you're right about Reid overall. I suspect he has a very productive professional career still ahead of him in spite of being in the wrong place most of the evening last Saturday.

[wbtfg]

Is anybody else convinced that Reid is far from the best defender in the Big Sky? I would take all three of our linebackers over him. Same speed, quickness and strength, but our guys play with some discipline.

Clearly, Mr. Reid didn't watch Housewright's Youtube videos this summer.

[CelticCat]

Is anybody else convinced that Reid is far from the best defender in the Big Sky? I would take all three of our linebackers over him. Same speed, quickness and strength, but our guys play with some discipline.

Clearly, Mr. Reid didn't watch Housewright's Youtube videos this summer.

It's clear now Housewright put all of that out there because he wanted to fool everyone into thinking we were running the same scheme again. Housewright out here playing chess.

[Lord Vigo]

Is anybody else convinced that Reid is far from the best defender in the Big Sky? I would take all three of our linebackers over him. Same speed, quickness and strength, but our guys play with some discipline.

All players reach a certain age where they start to slow down.

[91catAlum]

Regarding the “blowing a kiss” play…. I think it’s actually not accurate at all….

I read somewhere that he was in fact signaling to the ref that he was face masked.

He was definitely blowing a kiss. And it was epic....haha

100% Not sure how you could look at that video and think anything other than that. Not to mention he was looking at players 5-10 yards behind the line of scrimmage, and the closest official is on the LOS.

He's looking directly at the Line Judge when he does it.

[tetoncat]

Is anybody else convinced that Reid is far from the best defender in the Big Sky? I would take all three of our linebackers over him. Same speed, quickness and strength, but our guys play with some discipline.

All players reach a certain age where they start to slow down.

[RICO CAT]

Regarding the “blowing a kiss” play…. I think it’s actually not accurate at all….

I read somewhere that he was in fact signaling to the ref that he was face masked.

He was definitely blowing a kiss. And it was epic....haha

100% Not sure how you could look at that video and think anything other than that. Not to mention he was looking at players 5-10 yards behind the line of scrimmage, and the closest official is on the LOS.

He's looking directly at the Line Judge when he does it.

The kiss narrative is so much better though

[AFCAT]

Regarding the “blowing a kiss” play…. I think it’s actually not accurate at all….

I read somewhere that he was in fact signaling to the ref that he was face masked.

He was definitely blowing a kiss. And it was epic....haha

100% Not sure how you could look at that video and think anything other than that. Not to mention he was looking at players 5-10 yards behind the line of scrimmage, and the closest official is on the LOS.

He's looking directly at the Line Judge when he does it.

The kiss narrative is so much better though

I don’t believe he was blowing a kiss but if he doesn’t put out a picture of himself blowing a kiss on his next Bobcat collective t-shirt, then he is missing a golden opportunity.

[RICO CAT]

The Weber band director is all over Facebook talking a lot about how trashy the MSU football team is. The team apparently were yelling expletives and bumping into the band. And there was something about the team was out there when they shouldn’t be. Anyone who was there have any insight?

That’s rich, everyone knows Weber has the meanest band in the conference. I saw a couple of their trombone players shoving our players around…….

[BleedingBLue]

Regarding the “blowing a kiss” play…. I think it’s actually not accurate at all….

I read somewhere that he was in fact signaling to the ref that he was face masked.

He was definitely blowing a kiss. And it was epic....haha

100% Not sure how you could look at that video and think anything other than that. Not to mention he was looking at players 5-10 yards behind the line of scrimmage, and the closest official is on the LOS.

He's looking directly at the Line Judge when he does it.

I disagree, but that's ok.

[Bobcat Sig]

Regarding the “blowing a kiss” play…. I think it’s actually not accurate at all….

I read somewhere that he was in fact signaling to the ref that he was face masked.

He was definitely blowing a kiss. And it was epic....haha

100% Not sure how you could look at that video and think anything other than that. Not to mention he was looking at players 5-10 yards behind the line of scrimmage, and the closest official is on the LOS.

He's looking directly at the Line Judge when he does it.

The kiss narrative is so much better though

I don’t believe he was blowing a kiss but if he doesn’t put out a picture of himself blowing a kiss on his next Bobcat collective t-shirt, then he is missing a golden opportunity.

I'd buy that shirt

[Furious George]

A kiss is not a kiss...
Making eye contact with Refand looking back towards end zone from the 17.
Players aren't allowed on sidelines until the 25. Not motioning for a fecemask on him but committed right in front of him by Weber #97 right before the motion>

[WalkOn79]

Is anybody else convinced that Reid is far from the best defender in the Big Sky? I would take all three of our linebackers over him. Same speed, quickness and strength, but our guys play with some discipline.

All players reach a certain age where they start to slow down.