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Re: Injuries (UM game update)

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Re: Injuries (UM game update)

Post by wbtfg » Wed Nov 27, 2024 4:50 pm

iaafan wrote:
Tue Nov 26, 2024 7:17 pm
wbtfg wrote:
Tue Nov 26, 2024 6:43 pm
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Tue Nov 26, 2024 6:41 pm
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Just got a chance to rewatch highlights during my lunch break. The play where Brodie Grebe went down was number 84 with an illegal block.
Saw that. I've also had two people tell me Brody came back into the game after that. Can anyone confirm that? Pretty crazy how quiet everything has been on the injury front. I'm assuming the Julius news isn't good but I haven't heard a peep. Cool that Perk got into the game too.
Brody came back in. He wasn’t moving great, but it was reported that he’s good to go.
He had to go to the locker room and get stitches.
I’m no medical expert, and maybe I’m conspiracy theorizing here, but if someone had to go get stitches, I would assume there would be some sort of evidence of blood. I watched the replay numerous times and didn’t see any blood. I didn’t see blood on Brody’s socks/shoes/pants when he came back in. Anytime I’ve I’d to get stitches it was quite obvious to everyone around me that I had a big bloody gash.


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Re: Injuries (UM game update)

Post by Joe Bobcat » Wed Nov 27, 2024 5:14 pm

wbtfg wrote:
Wed Nov 27, 2024 4:50 pm
iaafan wrote:
Tue Nov 26, 2024 7:17 pm
wbtfg wrote:
Tue Nov 26, 2024 6:43 pm
catatac wrote:
Tue Nov 26, 2024 6:41 pm
kwcat wrote:
Tue Nov 26, 2024 2:35 pm
Just got a chance to rewatch highlights during my lunch break. The play where Brodie Grebe went down was number 84 with an illegal block.
Saw that. I've also had two people tell me Brody came back into the game after that. Can anyone confirm that? Pretty crazy how quiet everything has been on the injury front. I'm assuming the Julius news isn't good but I haven't heard a peep. Cool that Perk got into the game too.
Brody came back in. He wasn’t moving great, but it was reported that he’s good to go.
He had to go to the locker room and get stitches.
I’m no medical expert, and maybe I’m conspiracy theorizing here, but if someone had to go get stitches, I would assume there would be some sort of evidence of blood. I watched the replay numerous times and didn’t see any blood. I didn’t see blood on Brody’s socks/shoes/pants when he came back in. Anytime I’ve I’d to get stitches it was quite obvious to everyone around me that I had a big bloody gash.
You may have a point there but then again Brody has ice running through his veins which would be much harder to detect.


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Re: Injuries (UM game update)

Post by wbtfg » Wed Nov 27, 2024 5:22 pm

Joe Bobcat wrote:
Wed Nov 27, 2024 5:14 pm
wbtfg wrote:
Wed Nov 27, 2024 4:50 pm
iaafan wrote:
Tue Nov 26, 2024 7:17 pm
wbtfg wrote:
Tue Nov 26, 2024 6:43 pm
catatac wrote:
Tue Nov 26, 2024 6:41 pm
kwcat wrote:
Tue Nov 26, 2024 2:35 pm
Just got a chance to rewatch highlights during my lunch break. The play where Brodie Grebe went down was number 84 with an illegal block.
Saw that. I've also had two people tell me Brody came back into the game after that. Can anyone confirm that? Pretty crazy how quiet everything has been on the injury front. I'm assuming the Julius news isn't good but I haven't heard a peep. Cool that Perk got into the game too.
Brody came back in. He wasn’t moving great, but it was reported that he’s good to go.
He had to go to the locker room and get stitches.
I’m no medical expert, and maybe I’m conspiracy theorizing here, but if someone had to go get stitches, I would assume there would be some sort of evidence of blood. I watched the replay numerous times and didn’t see any blood. I didn’t see blood on Brody’s socks/shoes/pants when he came back in. Anytime I’ve I’d to get stitches it was quite obvious to everyone around me that I had a big bloody gash.
You may have a point there but then again Brody has ice running through his veins which would be much harder to detect.
That's a good point.

I've actually heard that Brody has tried to donate blood, but was turned away because the normal human circulatory system isn't strong enough to pump his blood.


But he still donates blood, just never his own.


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Re: Injuries (UM game update)

Post by Joe Bobcat » Wed Nov 27, 2024 5:46 pm

wbtfg wrote:
Wed Nov 27, 2024 5:22 pm
Joe Bobcat wrote:
Wed Nov 27, 2024 5:14 pm
wbtfg wrote:
Wed Nov 27, 2024 4:50 pm
iaafan wrote:
Tue Nov 26, 2024 7:17 pm
wbtfg wrote:
Tue Nov 26, 2024 6:43 pm
catatac wrote:
Tue Nov 26, 2024 6:41 pm
kwcat wrote:
Tue Nov 26, 2024 2:35 pm
Just got a chance to rewatch highlights during my lunch break. The play where Brodie Grebe went down was number 84 with an illegal block.
Saw that. I've also had two people tell me Brody came back into the game after that. Can anyone confirm that? Pretty crazy how quiet everything has been on the injury front. I'm assuming the Julius news isn't good but I haven't heard a peep. Cool that Perk got into the game too.
Brody came back in. He wasn’t moving great, but it was reported that he’s good to go.
He had to go to the locker room and get stitches.
I’m no medical expert, and maybe I’m conspiracy theorizing here, but if someone had to go get stitches, I would assume there would be some sort of evidence of blood. I watched the replay numerous times and didn’t see any blood. I didn’t see blood on Brody’s socks/shoes/pants when he came back in. Anytime I’ve I’d to get stitches it was quite obvious to everyone around me that I had a big bloody gash.
You may have a point there but then again Brody has ice running through his veins which would be much harder to detect.
That's a good point.

I've actually heard that Brody has tried to donate blood, but was turned away because the normal human circulatory system isn't strong enough to pump his blood.


But he still donates blood, just never his own.
HAHAHA that's a good one


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Re: Injuries (UM game update)

Post by bobcatfan123 » Wed Nov 27, 2024 7:04 pm

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Wed Nov 27, 2024 1:15 pm
I was at the game and didn’t see the chop block. Some suggestioning it was intentional? Any thoughts? What quarter did it happen in?



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Re: Injuries (UM game update)

Post by cats2506 » Wed Nov 27, 2024 7:12 pm

bobcatfan123 wrote:
Wed Nov 27, 2024 7:04 pm
AFCAT wrote:
Wed Nov 27, 2024 1:15 pm
I was at the game and didn’t see the chop block. Some suggestioning it was intentional? Any thoughts? What quarter did it happen in?
One was called for a penalty, you can see it pretty clearly on that play,
I saw another play later in the game where they ran the same block against him.

If a blocker comes across the formation he can't go low on the initial hit, they would bring the TE across the formation and go directly for his legs.


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Re: Injuries (UM game update)

Post by wbtfg » Wed Nov 27, 2024 7:13 pm

bobcatfan123 wrote:
Wed Nov 27, 2024 7:04 pm
AFCAT wrote:
Wed Nov 27, 2024 1:15 pm
I was at the game and didn’t see the chop block. Some suggestioning it was intentional? Any thoughts? What quarter did it happen in?
It was intentional, but I don’t think it was illegal. Happened at roughly 1hr 5min into the game.


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Re: Injuries (UM game update)

Post by cats2506 » Wed Nov 27, 2024 7:17 pm

wbtfg wrote:
Wed Nov 27, 2024 7:13 pm
bobcatfan123 wrote:
Wed Nov 27, 2024 7:04 pm
AFCAT wrote:
Wed Nov 27, 2024 1:15 pm
I was at the game and didn’t see the chop block. Some suggestioning it was intentional? Any thoughts? What quarter did it happen in?
It was intentional, but I don’t think it was illegal. Happened at roughly 1hr 5min into the game.
Its illegal, player can not come across the formation and block below the waist


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Re: Injuries (UM game update)

Post by wbtfg » Wed Nov 27, 2024 7:19 pm

cats2506 wrote:
Wed Nov 27, 2024 7:17 pm
wbtfg wrote:
Wed Nov 27, 2024 7:13 pm
bobcatfan123 wrote:
Wed Nov 27, 2024 7:04 pm
AFCAT wrote:
Wed Nov 27, 2024 1:15 pm
I was at the game and didn’t see the chop block. Some suggestioning it was intentional? Any thoughts? What quarter did it happen in?
It was intentional, but I don’t think it was illegal. Happened at roughly 1hr 5min into the game.
Its illegal, player can not come across the formation and block below the waist
I thought the player just had to be within the tackle box.

I’ll admit, I don’t know the rule. But neither Gregorak or Vigen seems to take issue with it.


Edit: I just googled the rule.
“Blocking below the waist [to be allowed] only by linemen and stationary backs inside the tackle box. Outside the tackle box on scrimmage plays, blocking below the waist will be prohibited.”


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Re: Injuries (UM game update)

Post by cats2506 » Wed Nov 27, 2024 7:56 pm

wbtfg wrote:
Wed Nov 27, 2024 7:19 pm
cats2506 wrote:
Wed Nov 27, 2024 7:17 pm
wbtfg wrote:
Wed Nov 27, 2024 7:13 pm
bobcatfan123 wrote:
Wed Nov 27, 2024 7:04 pm
AFCAT wrote:
Wed Nov 27, 2024 1:15 pm
I was at the game and didn’t see the chop block. Some suggestioning it was intentional? Any thoughts? What quarter did it happen in?
It was intentional, but I don’t think it was illegal. Happened at roughly 1hr 5min into the game.
Its illegal, player can not come across the formation and block below the waist
I thought the player just had to be within the tackle box.

I’ll admit, I don’t know the rule. But neither Gregorak or Vigen seems to take issue with it.


Edit: I just googled the rule.
“Blocking below the waist [to be allowed] only by linemen and stationary backs inside the tackle box. Outside the tackle box on scrimmage plays, blocking below the waist will be prohibited.”
It was correctly called as a penalty in one play


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Re: Injuries (UM game update)

Post by wbtfg » Wed Nov 27, 2024 8:03 pm

cats2506 wrote:
Wed Nov 27, 2024 7:56 pm
wbtfg wrote:
Wed Nov 27, 2024 7:19 pm
cats2506 wrote:
Wed Nov 27, 2024 7:17 pm
wbtfg wrote:
Wed Nov 27, 2024 7:13 pm
bobcatfan123 wrote:
Wed Nov 27, 2024 7:04 pm
AFCAT wrote:
Wed Nov 27, 2024 1:15 pm
I was at the game and didn’t see the chop block. Some suggestioning it was intentional? Any thoughts? What quarter did it happen in?
It was intentional, but I don’t think it was illegal. Happened at roughly 1hr 5min into the game.
Its illegal, player can not come across the formation and block below the waist
I thought the player just had to be within the tackle box.

I’ll admit, I don’t know the rule. But neither Gregorak or Vigen seems to take issue with it.


Edit: I just googled the rule.
“Blocking below the waist [to be allowed] only by linemen and stationary backs inside the tackle box. Outside the tackle box on scrimmage plays, blocking below the waist will be prohibited.”
It was correctly called as a penalty in one play
That one was a chop clock where one player was engaged high and another came in and blocked low.


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Re: Injuries (UM game update)

Post by kwcat » Wed Nov 27, 2024 8:07 pm

cats2506 wrote:
Wed Nov 27, 2024 7:12 pm
bobcatfan123 wrote:
Wed Nov 27, 2024 7:04 pm
AFCAT wrote:
Wed Nov 27, 2024 1:15 pm
I was at the game and didn’t see the chop block. Some suggestioning it was intentional? Any thoughts? What quarter did it happen in?
One was called for a penalty, you can see it pretty clearly on that play,
I saw another play later in the game where they ran the same block against him.

If a blocker comes across the formation he can't go low on the initial hit, they would bring the TE across the formation and go directly for his legs.
Watch the play when Grebe goes out . #84 chop
Blocks him.



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Re: Injuries (UM game update)

Post by BleedingBLue » Wed Nov 27, 2024 9:17 pm

wbtfg wrote:
Wed Nov 27, 2024 8:03 pm
cats2506 wrote:
Wed Nov 27, 2024 7:56 pm
wbtfg wrote:
Wed Nov 27, 2024 7:19 pm
cats2506 wrote:
Wed Nov 27, 2024 7:17 pm
wbtfg wrote:
Wed Nov 27, 2024 7:13 pm
bobcatfan123 wrote:
Wed Nov 27, 2024 7:04 pm
AFCAT wrote:
Wed Nov 27, 2024 1:15 pm
I was at the game and didn’t see the chop block. Some suggestioning it was intentional? Any thoughts? What quarter did it happen in?
It was intentional, but I don’t think it was illegal. Happened at roughly 1hr 5min into the game.
Its illegal, player can not come across the formation and block below the waist
I thought the player just had to be within the tackle box.

I’ll admit, I don’t know the rule. But neither Gregorak or Vigen seems to take issue with it.


Edit: I just googled the rule.
“Blocking below the waist [to be allowed] only by linemen and stationary backs inside the tackle box. Outside the tackle box on scrimmage plays, blocking below the waist will be prohibited.”
It was correctly called as a penalty in one play
That one was a chop clock where one player was engaged high and another came in and blocked low.
Personal foul, illegal block below the waist, not a chop block.



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Re: Injuries (UM game update)

Post by wbtfg » Wed Nov 27, 2024 9:55 pm

BleedingBLue wrote:
Wed Nov 27, 2024 9:17 pm
wbtfg wrote:
Wed Nov 27, 2024 8:03 pm
cats2506 wrote:
Wed Nov 27, 2024 7:56 pm
wbtfg wrote:
Wed Nov 27, 2024 7:19 pm
cats2506 wrote:
Wed Nov 27, 2024 7:17 pm
wbtfg wrote:
Wed Nov 27, 2024 7:13 pm
bobcatfan123 wrote:
Wed Nov 27, 2024 7:04 pm
AFCAT wrote:
Wed Nov 27, 2024 1:15 pm
I was at the game and didn’t see the chop block. Some suggestioning it was intentional? Any thoughts? What quarter did it happen in?
It was intentional, but I don’t think it was illegal. Happened at roughly 1hr 5min into the game.
Its illegal, player can not come across the formation and block below the waist
I thought the player just had to be within the tackle box.

I’ll admit, I don’t know the rule. But neither Gregorak or Vigen seems to take issue with it.


Edit: I just googled the rule.
“Blocking below the waist [to be allowed] only by linemen and stationary backs inside the tackle box. Outside the tackle box on scrimmage plays, blocking below the waist will be prohibited.”
It was correctly called as a penalty in one play
That one was a chop clock where one player was engaged high and another came in and blocked low.
Personal foul, illegal block below the waist, not a chop block.
Just went and watched and you’re right on the money. Gregorak thought it was a chop, but clearly it wasn’t. Those two plays were nearly identical where the TE lines up behind the tackle and comes across the formation and dives at Brody’s knees.


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Re: Injuries (UM game update)

Post by BleedingBLue » Wed Nov 27, 2024 10:08 pm

wbtfg wrote:
Wed Nov 27, 2024 9:55 pm
BleedingBLue wrote:
Wed Nov 27, 2024 9:17 pm
wbtfg wrote:
Wed Nov 27, 2024 8:03 pm
cats2506 wrote:
Wed Nov 27, 2024 7:56 pm
wbtfg wrote:
Wed Nov 27, 2024 7:19 pm
cats2506 wrote:
Wed Nov 27, 2024 7:17 pm
wbtfg wrote:
Wed Nov 27, 2024 7:13 pm
bobcatfan123 wrote:
Wed Nov 27, 2024 7:04 pm
AFCAT wrote:
Wed Nov 27, 2024 1:15 pm
I was at the game and didn’t see the chop block. Some suggestioning it was intentional? Any thoughts? What quarter did it happen in?
It was intentional, but I don’t think it was illegal. Happened at roughly 1hr 5min into the game.
Its illegal, player can not come across the formation and block below the waist
I thought the player just had to be within the tackle box.

I’ll admit, I don’t know the rule. But neither Gregorak or Vigen seems to take issue with it.


Edit: I just googled the rule.
“Blocking below the waist [to be allowed] only by linemen and stationary backs inside the tackle box. Outside the tackle box on scrimmage plays, blocking below the waist will be prohibited.”
It was correctly called as a penalty in one play
That one was a chop clock where one player was engaged high and another came in and blocked low.
Personal foul, illegal block below the waist, not a chop block.
Just went and watched and you’re right on the money. Gregorak thought it was a chop, but clearly it wasn’t. Those two plays were nearly identical where the TE lines up behind the tackle and comes across the formation and dives at Brody’s knees.
It happened a couple times. I counted 2 others where the DE got inside quick enough the blocker whiffed. I was yelling immediately on the one that actually got called, that is a dangerous block.



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Re: Injuries (UM game update)

Post by SparkCat » Thu Nov 28, 2024 8:40 am

Maybe reading too much into it, however, I did notice Julius participated in the Senior Day festivities, per a new video with Vigen addressing the seniors. Aside from the injury happening, I wonder if he also had decided to not redshirt and or stay here.



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Re: Injuries (UM game update)

Post by MSU01 » Thu Nov 28, 2024 8:44 am

SparkCat wrote:
Thu Nov 28, 2024 8:40 am
Maybe reading too much into it, however, I did notice Julius participated in the Senior Day festivities, per a new video with Vigen addressing the seniors. Aside from the injury happening, I wonder if he also had decided to not redshirt and or stay here.
Or, he hasn't made a final decision yet and was encouraged to participate in Senior Day in case he doesn't return. I'd imagine it's a much easier decision to make after the season is over, and some players might change their minds with a little more time to reflect on their lives and what they want to do. Madison Jackson/Hall on the WBB team is a good example of that.



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Re: Injuries (UM game update)

Post by SparkCat » Thu Nov 28, 2024 9:46 am

MSU01 wrote:
Thu Nov 28, 2024 8:44 am
SparkCat wrote:
Thu Nov 28, 2024 8:40 am
Maybe reading too much into it, however, I did notice Julius participated in the Senior Day festivities, per a new video with Vigen addressing the seniors. Aside from the injury happening, I wonder if he also had decided to not redshirt and or stay here.
Or, he hasn't made a final decision yet and was encouraged to participate in Senior Day in case he doesn't return. I'd imagine it's a much easier decision to make after the season is over, and some players might change their minds with a little more time to reflect on their lives and what they want to do. Madison Jackson/Hall on the WBB team is a good example of that.
I also thought that as well. The bye week lulls are getting to me. Excited this Saturday to watch some games



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Re: Injuries (UM game update)

Post by LTown Cat » Thu Nov 28, 2024 1:27 pm

SparkCat wrote:
Thu Nov 28, 2024 8:40 am
Maybe reading too much into it, however, I did notice Julius participated in the Senior Day festivities, per a new video with Vigen addressing the seniors. Aside from the injury happening, I wonder if he also had decided to not redshirt and or stay here.
Unfortunately if he hurt his knee his decision might be made for him. He’s likely nearly 12 months out if it’s as serious as his other one.



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