EWU Offense

[Lord Vigo]

Control the ball. That’s the best way to limit this offense. Long, sustained scoring drives. Try to limit them to like 6 meaningful possessions in the game.

In 2013, MSU did everything you said and still got piss pounded. EWU had nine drives and scored on the first eight. They showed some mercy and took a knee on their final drive (spoiler alert, they would have scored).

The Cats had possession of the ball for more than 62% of the game (37 minutes, 23 seconds). Denarius McGhee had 330 yards on 37 attempts and in total the team had 174 yards on the ground.

See the box score and stats for yourself

Point being, if you do what you've always done you're going to get what you've always gotten. The conventional wisdom may work well against most opponents, but it does not apply to EWU because they are not a conventional opponent. If the coaches game plan the way you've described then we've already lost. If you think that's a steaming pile of bs, I've got thousands of years of applied strategy to back me up (e.g. the Art of War).

I happen to think we can beat EWU at their own game. Quick strikes and explosive plays. The main difference between this MSU team and the 2013 team is now we actually have a defense capable of making stops and forcing opponents into making mistakes. If we manage to get up by two touchdowns in the second half, they'll eventually get into desperation mode.

The only question now is can we execute it. Come November 6, we won't have to wonder any longer.

Ok, so by your logic it would be better not to keep the EW offense off the field with long scoring drives because, in 2013, the Cats’ defense was horrible.

You’re not making the point you think you’re making.

Any post that starts off with, “By your logic…” is a 100% reliable indicator someone is about to make something up and attribute that to the person to whom they’re replying. That wasn’t my logic at all. I can’t understand things for you. You’re reading things into my post as a way to defend what you said. Your game plan, control the clock, is exactly what Choate meant by saying stats are for losers. Getting a sexy box score at the expense of results.

My logic is this: EWU is setting a trap they know opponents can’t resist. Thus, we would be wise to not play into that.

You said that controlling the ball with sustained offense would be bad because they did that in 2013 and lost.

Maybe you want to amend that now (I know I would!), but that’s what you said and that’s what I responded to.

Also— I’ll just add this: there’s nothing magic about TOP. I don’t think that simply getting to a certain % of possession time will win the game. I simply think limiting drive opportunities for their offense would help towards that effort. That should be a completely uncontroversial statement.

But you still have to play defense, you still have to play teams, you still can’t settle for FG’s all day, etc. TOP doesn’t make a win automatic just like being + in the TO margin doesn’t make a win automatic. But the realities behind the statistics usually help.

[BelligerentBobcat]

Control the ball. That’s the best way to limit this offense. Long, sustained scoring drives. Try to limit them to like 6 meaningful possessions in the game.

In 2013, MSU did everything you said and still got piss pounded. EWU had nine drives and scored on the first eight. They showed some mercy and took a knee on their final drive (spoiler alert, they would have scored).

The Cats had possession of the ball for more than 62% of the game (37 minutes, 23 seconds). Denarius McGhee had 330 yards on 37 attempts and in total the team had 174 yards on the ground.

See the box score and stats for yourself

Point being, if you do what you've always done you're going to get what you've always gotten. The conventional wisdom may work well against most opponents, but it does not apply to EWU because they are not a conventional opponent. If the coaches game plan the way you've described then we've already lost. If you think that's a steaming pile of bs, I've got thousands of years of applied strategy to back me up (e.g. the Art of War).

I happen to think we can beat EWU at their own game. Quick strikes and explosive plays. The main difference between this MSU team and the 2013 team is now we actually have a defense capable of making stops and forcing opponents into making mistakes. If we manage to get up by two touchdowns in the second half, they'll eventually get into desperation mode.

The only question now is can we execute it. Come November 6, we won't have to wonder any longer.

Ok, so by your logic it would be better not to keep the EW offense off the field with long scoring drives because, in 2013, the Cats’ defense was horrible.

You’re not making the point you think you’re making.

Any post that starts off with, “By your logic…” is a 100% reliable indicator someone is about to make something up and attribute that to the person to whom they’re replying. That wasn’t my logic at all. I can’t understand things for you. You’re reading things into my post as a way to defend what you said. Your game plan, control the clock, is exactly what Choate meant by saying stats are for losers. Getting a sexy box score at the expense of results.

My logic is this: EWU is setting a trap they know opponents can’t resist. Thus, we would be wise to not play into that.

https://tenor.com/ulgp.gif

[Cledus]

Control the ball. That’s the best way to limit this offense. Long, sustained scoring drives. Try to limit them to like 6 meaningful possessions in the game.

In 2013, MSU did everything you said and still got piss pounded. EWU had nine drives and scored on the first eight. They showed some mercy and took a knee on their final drive (spoiler alert, they would have scored).

The Cats had possession of the ball for more than 62% of the game (37 minutes, 23 seconds). Denarius McGhee had 330 yards on 37 attempts and in total the team had 174 yards on the ground.

See the box score and stats for yourself

Point being, if you do what you've always done you're going to get what you've always gotten. The conventional wisdom may work well against most opponents, but it does not apply to EWU because they are not a conventional opponent. If the coaches game plan the way you've described then we've already lost. If you think that's a steaming pile of bs, I've got thousands of years of applied strategy to back me up (e.g. the Art of War).

I happen to think we can beat EWU at their own game. Quick strikes and explosive plays. The main difference between this MSU team and the 2013 team is now we actually have a defense capable of making stops and forcing opponents into making mistakes. If we manage to get up by two touchdowns in the second half, they'll eventually get into desperation mode.

The only question now is can we execute it. Come November 6, we won't have to wonder any longer.

Ok, so by your logic it would be better not to keep the EW offense off the field with long scoring drives because, in 2013, the Cats’ defense was horrible.

You’re not making the point you think you’re making.

Any post that starts off with, “By your logic…” is a 100% reliable indicator someone is about to make something up and attribute that to the person to whom they’re replying. That wasn’t my logic at all. I can’t understand things for you. You’re reading things into my post as a way to defend what you said. Your game plan, control the clock, is exactly what Choate meant by saying stats are for losers. Getting a sexy box score at the expense of results.

My logic is this: EWU is setting a trap they know opponents can’t resist. Thus, we would be wise to not play into that.

https://tenor.com/ulgp.gif

I said that every year we’ve lost the game plan has been to control the clock and limit their touches. And we’ve still gotten our asses handed to us. So I suggest maybe we shouldn’t just fall back on the same ‘ol same ‘ol. I don’t know what’s going on in your brain that interpreted that as a self own.

And actually, that gif is exactly the same gif I would use for you trying to post a gif.

[Cledus]

Control the ball. That’s the best way to limit this offense. Long, sustained scoring drives. Try to limit them to like 6 meaningful possessions in the game.

In 2013, MSU did everything you said and still got piss pounded. EWU had nine drives and scored on the first eight. They showed some mercy and took a knee on their final drive (spoiler alert, they would have scored).

The Cats had possession of the ball for more than 62% of the game (37 minutes, 23 seconds). Denarius McGhee had 330 yards on 37 attempts and in total the team had 174 yards on the ground.

See the box score and stats for yourself

Point being, if you do what you've always done you're going to get what you've always gotten. The conventional wisdom may work well against most opponents, but it does not apply to EWU because they are not a conventional opponent. If the coaches game plan the way you've described then we've already lost. If you think that's a steaming pile of bs, I've got thousands of years of applied strategy to back me up (e.g. the Art of War).

I happen to think we can beat EWU at their own game. Quick strikes and explosive plays. The main difference between this MSU team and the 2013 team is now we actually have a defense capable of making stops and forcing opponents into making mistakes. If we manage to get up by two touchdowns in the second half, they'll eventually get into desperation mode.

The only question now is can we execute it. Come November 6, we won't have to wonder any longer.

Ok, so by your logic it would be better not to keep the EW offense off the field with long scoring drives because, in 2013, the Cats’ defense was horrible.

You’re not making the point you think you’re making.

Any post that starts off with, “By your logic…” is a 100% reliable indicator someone is about to make something up and attribute that to the person to whom they’re replying. That wasn’t my logic at all. I can’t understand things for you. You’re reading things into my post as a way to defend what you said. Your game plan, control the clock, is exactly what Choate meant by saying stats are for losers. Getting a sexy box score at the expense of results.

My logic is this: EWU is setting a trap they know opponents can’t resist. Thus, we would be wise to not play into that.

https://tenor.com/ulgp.gif

Actually, this is the gif I would use of you trying to post a gif

[BelligerentBobcat]

Control the ball. That’s the best way to limit this offense. Long, sustained scoring drives. Try to limit them to like 6 meaningful possessions in the game.

In 2013, MSU did everything you said and still got piss pounded. EWU had nine drives and scored on the first eight. They showed some mercy and took a knee on their final drive (spoiler alert, they would have scored).

The Cats had possession of the ball for more than 62% of the game (37 minutes, 23 seconds). Denarius McGhee had 330 yards on 37 attempts and in total the team had 174 yards on the ground.

See the box score and stats for yourself

Point being, if you do what you've always done you're going to get what you've always gotten. The conventional wisdom may work well against most opponents, but it does not apply to EWU because they are not a conventional opponent. If the coaches game plan the way you've described then we've already lost. If you think that's a steaming pile of bs, I've got thousands of years of applied strategy to back me up (e.g. the Art of War).

I happen to think we can beat EWU at their own game. Quick strikes and explosive plays. The main difference between this MSU team and the 2013 team is now we actually have a defense capable of making stops and forcing opponents into making mistakes. If we manage to get up by two touchdowns in the second half, they'll eventually get into desperation mode.

The only question now is can we execute it. Come November 6, we won't have to wonder any longer.

Ok, so by your logic it would be better not to keep the EW offense off the field with long scoring drives because, in 2013, the Cats’ defense was horrible.

You’re not making the point you think you’re making.

Any post that starts off with, “By your logic…” is a 100% reliable indicator someone is about to make something up and attribute that to the person to whom they’re replying. That wasn’t my logic at all. I can’t understand things for you. You’re reading things into my post as a way to defend what you said. Your game plan, control the clock, is exactly what Choate meant by saying stats are for losers. Getting a sexy box score at the expense of results.

My logic is this: EWU is setting a trap they know opponents can’t resist. Thus, we would be wise to not play into that.

https://tenor.com/ulgp.gif

I said that every year we’ve lost the game plan has been to control the clock and limit their touches. And we’ve still gotten our asses handed to us. So I suggest maybe we shouldn’t just fall back on the same ‘ol same ‘ol. I don’t know what’s going on in your brain that interpreted that as a self own.

And actually, that gif is exactly the same gif I would use for you trying to post a gif.

1) I don’t really think that’s true. It certainly wasn’t the years you cited.

2) Even if that were true, that doesn’t make it a bad strategy WITH THIS YEARS TEAM! We have an elite defense. We have a solid offense. We’re playing an elite offense. Best course of action is to help the defense by keeping the ball out of EWU’s hands.

3) I don’t understand why you think we could out-Eastern Eastern. Our offensive game plan isn’t built that way. You don’t just switch playbooks like you do in Madden. You do what you’ve practiced or you’re going to make a lot of mistakes. Look at how Weber beat Eastern. They played good defense and they worked on keeping the ball out of Eastern’s hands. It worked. Crazy.

[CatsFan10]

So some people truly believe we should walk in there guns blazing and start slinging the ball around? All because of a game 8 years ago? Here’s a recent game: go look up NSDU vs EWU from this spring and there’s your ticket, run the ball and wear them down. Play keep away, I have found that EB scores when he has the ball. So don’t give it to him as long as you can.

[onceacat]

Control the ball. That’s the best way to limit this offense. Long, sustained scoring drives. Try to limit them to like 6 meaningful possessions in the game.

In 2013, MSU did everything you said and still got piss pounded. EWU had nine drives and scored on the first eight. They showed some mercy and took a knee on their final drive (spoiler alert, they would have scored).

The Cats had possession of the ball for more than 62% of the game (37 minutes, 23 seconds). Denarius McGhee had 330 yards on 37 attempts and in total the team had 174 yards on the ground.

See the box score and stats for yourself

Point being, if you do what you've always done you're going to get what you've always gotten. The conventional wisdom may work well against most opponents, but it does not apply to EWU because they are not a conventional opponent. If the coaches game plan the way you've described then we've already lost. If you think that's a steaming pile of bs, I've got thousands of years of applied strategy to back me up (e.g. the Art of War).

I happen to think we can beat EWU at their own game. Quick strikes and explosive plays. The main difference between this MSU team and the 2013 team is now we actually have a defense capable of making stops and forcing opponents into making mistakes. If we manage to get up by two touchdowns in the second half, they'll eventually get into desperation mode.

The only question now is can we execute it. Come November 6, we won't have to wonder any longer.

Ok, so by your logic it would be better not to keep the EW offense off the field with long scoring drives because, in 2013, the Cats’ defense was horrible.

You’re not making the point you think you’re making.

Any post that starts off with, “By your logic…” is a 100% reliable indicator someone is about to make something up and attribute that to the person to whom they’re replying. That wasn’t my logic at all. I can’t understand things for you. You’re reading things into my post as a way to defend what you said. Your game plan, control the clock, is exactly what Choate meant by saying stats are for losers. Getting a sexy box score at the expense of results.

My logic is this: EWU is setting a trap they know opponents can’t resist. Thus, we would be wise to not play into that.

https://tenor.com/ulgp.gif

I said that every year we’ve lost the game plan has been to control the clock and limit their touches. And we’ve still gotten our asses handed to us. So I suggest maybe we shouldn’t just fall back on the same ‘ol same ‘ol. I don’t know what’s going on in your brain that interpreted that as a self own.

And actually, that gif is exactly the same gif I would use for you trying to post a gif.

I think the underlying issue is that usually ball control offenses are willing to punt the ball & play field position. If you are playing ball control & trying to limit EWUs possessions, you have to complete drives. EWU goes 3 & out A LOT. They just do it fast. And as far as EWU is concerned, a punt is exactly the same as a field goal, because they score on long drives as fast and as easily as short drives. So playing the field position game is pointless.

And their D generates a lot of turnovers.

Weber won that game because 1) they went 4-0 on 4th down and 2) Flipped EWUs normal turnover margin.

I 100% guarantee that if the Cats go 4-0 on 4th down conversions, they come out of Cheney with a win. It doesn't really matter what kind of offense a team runs, they just need to convert 4th downs instead of giving up turnovers (aka punts).

[Lord Vigo]

So some people truly believe we should walk in there guns blazing and start slinging the ball around? All because of a game 8 years ago? Here’s a recent game: go look up NSDU vs EWU from this spring and there’s your ticket, run the ball and wear them down. Play keep away, I have found that EB scores when he has the ball. So don’t give it to him as long as you can.

Oh! I’ve been along for this ride, so I can catch you up. It’s like this.

Sun Tzu saith, “Anything you did in a game you loss is now bad.” -Art of War, page 347.

So if they lost a game 8 years ago in which the offense moved the ball really well and sustained drives, then the trick is to make sure Eastern has the ball most of the day and try not to produce too much offense.

And if you disagree with that, it’s because you hate ancient Chinese treatises on the art of war.

Does that help?

[Lord Vigo]

Control the ball. That’s the best way to limit this offense. Long, sustained scoring drives. Try to limit them to like 6 meaningful possessions in the game.

In 2013, MSU did everything you said and still got piss pounded. EWU had nine drives and scored on the first eight. They showed some mercy and took a knee on their final drive (spoiler alert, they would have scored).

The Cats had possession of the ball for more than 62% of the game (37 minutes, 23 seconds). Denarius McGhee had 330 yards on 37 attempts and in total the team had 174 yards on the ground.

See the box score and stats for yourself

Point being, if you do what you've always done you're going to get what you've always gotten. The conventional wisdom may work well against most opponents, but it does not apply to EWU because they are not a conventional opponent. If the coaches game plan the way you've described then we've already lost. If you think that's a steaming pile of bs, I've got thousands of years of applied strategy to back me up (e.g. the Art of War).

I happen to think we can beat EWU at their own game. Quick strikes and explosive plays. The main difference between this MSU team and the 2013 team is now we actually have a defense capable of making stops and forcing opponents into making mistakes. If we manage to get up by two touchdowns in the second half, they'll eventually get into desperation mode.

The only question now is can we execute it. Come November 6, we won't have to wonder any longer.

Ok, so by your logic it would be better not to keep the EW offense off the field with long scoring drives because, in 2013, the Cats’ defense was horrible.

You’re not making the point you think you’re making.

Any post that starts off with, “By your logic…” is a 100% reliable indicator someone is about to make something up and attribute that to the person to whom they’re replying. That wasn’t my logic at all. I can’t understand things for you. You’re reading things into my post as a way to defend what you said. Your game plan, control the clock, is exactly what Choate meant by saying stats are for losers. Getting a sexy box score at the expense of results.

My logic is this: EWU is setting a trap they know opponents can’t resist. Thus, we would be wise to not play into that.

https://tenor.com/ulgp.gif

I said that every year we’ve lost the game plan has been to control the clock and limit their touches. And we’ve still gotten our asses handed to us. So I suggest maybe we shouldn’t just fall back on the same ‘ol same ‘ol. I don’t know what’s going on in your brain that interpreted that as a self own.

And actually, that gif is exactly the same gif I would use for you trying to post a gif.

I think the underlying issue is that usually ball control offenses are willing to punt the ball & play field position. If you are playing ball control & trying to limit EWUs possessions, you have to complete drives. EWU goes 3 & out A LOT. They just do it fast. And as far as EWU is concerned, a punt is exactly the same as a field goal, because they score on long drives as fast and as easily as short drives. So playing the field position game is pointless.

And their D generates a lot of turnovers.

Weber won that game because 1) they went 4-0 on 4th down and 2) Flipped EWUs normal turnover margin.

I 100% guarantee that if the Cats go 4-0 on 4th down conversions, they come out of Cheney with a win. It doesn't really matter what kind of offense a team runs, they just need to convert 4th downs instead of giving up turnovers (aka punts).

The “ball control” approach that everyone in here is advocating for is using the run game to sustain long, clock-eating scoring drives and thus limit the number of times EW gets the ball.

I’m sure we’d all agree that if the Cats punt all day, they’re going to lose.

[onceacat]

Control the ball. That’s the best way to limit this offense. Long, sustained scoring drives. Try to limit them to like 6 meaningful possessions in the game.

In 2013, MSU did everything you said and still got piss pounded. EWU had nine drives and scored on the first eight. They showed some mercy and took a knee on their final drive (spoiler alert, they would have scored).

The Cats had possession of the ball for more than 62% of the game (37 minutes, 23 seconds). Denarius McGhee had 330 yards on 37 attempts and in total the team had 174 yards on the ground.

See the box score and stats for yourself

Point being, if you do what you've always done you're going to get what you've always gotten. The conventional wisdom may work well against most opponents, but it does not apply to EWU because they are not a conventional opponent. If the coaches game plan the way you've described then we've already lost. If you think that's a steaming pile of bs, I've got thousands of years of applied strategy to back me up (e.g. the Art of War).

I happen to think we can beat EWU at their own game. Quick strikes and explosive plays. The main difference between this MSU team and the 2013 team is now we actually have a defense capable of making stops and forcing opponents into making mistakes. If we manage to get up by two touchdowns in the second half, they'll eventually get into desperation mode.

The only question now is can we execute it. Come November 6, we won't have to wonder any longer.

Ok, so by your logic it would be better not to keep the EW offense off the field with long scoring drives because, in 2013, the Cats’ defense was horrible.

You’re not making the point you think you’re making.

Any post that starts off with, “By your logic…” is a 100% reliable indicator someone is about to make something up and attribute that to the person to whom they’re replying. That wasn’t my logic at all. I can’t understand things for you. You’re reading things into my post as a way to defend what you said. Your game plan, control the clock, is exactly what Choate meant by saying stats are for losers. Getting a sexy box score at the expense of results.

My logic is this: EWU is setting a trap they know opponents can’t resist. Thus, we would be wise to not play into that.

https://tenor.com/ulgp.gif

I said that every year we’ve lost the game plan has been to control the clock and limit their touches. And we’ve still gotten our asses handed to us. So I suggest maybe we shouldn’t just fall back on the same ‘ol same ‘ol. I don’t know what’s going on in your brain that interpreted that as a self own.

And actually, that gif is exactly the same gif I would use for you trying to post a gif.

I think the underlying issue is that usually ball control offenses are willing to punt the ball & play field position. If you are playing ball control & trying to limit EWUs possessions, you have to complete drives. EWU goes 3 & out A LOT. They just do it fast. And as far as EWU is concerned, a punt is exactly the same as a field goal, because they score on long drives as fast and as easily as short drives. So playing the field position game is pointless.

And their D generates a lot of turnovers.

Weber won that game because 1) they went 4-0 on 4th down and 2) Flipped EWUs normal turnover margin.

I 100% guarantee that if the Cats go 4-0 on 4th down conversions, they come out of Cheney with a win. It doesn't really matter what kind of offense a team runs, they just need to convert 4th downs instead of giving up turnovers (aka punts).

The “ball control” approach that everyone in here is advocating for is using the run game to sustain long, clock-eating scoring drives and thus limit the number of times EW gets the ball.

I’m sure we’d all agree that if the Cats punt all day, they’re going to lose.

So, the Cats entire offensive plan all year has been to "punt all day" and it got a win against Weber & a near win at Wyoming. The Cats entire offense (at least against quality opponents) has been to "punt all day" and play field position.

The Eagles only lost one game this year, and they had 14 drives, above their season average. Weber also only had one drive of over 4 minutes. Obviously, the conventional wisdom that "limiting" possessions & eating the clock is a way to beat the Eagles is 100% misguided.

The way to beat the Eagles is by not turning over the ball. A punt is a turnover. So in practice, that means getting the ball into 4th and short & then converting on those plays. But that has nothing to with "long, clock eating drives".

Its "you are in 4 down territory" for pretty much the entire game. Clock has nothing to do with it.

[Pucket21]

Honestly your all partially right and vice versa. I believe the key is the coaches ability to adjust the plan to the situation that presents itself at the moment. EWU knows our strengths as we know there's. Which team can get there kids to adjust fastest wins. I believe MSU has smarter athletes than EWU and we will make the adjustments that EWU cannot make. They are a single dimension team, always have been. Living I Spokane I get a chance to see them play a few times a year and they play exciting and quite predictable ball. Go Cats

[Long Time Cat]

I think the NFL game last night was a good preview of how to beat a team like eastern. Green Bay went on long time consuming scoring drives to keep Arizona and Kyler Murray off the field. That was clearly their plan as they were without their 3 top receivers but have two very good running backs. GB won time of possession 38-22 and it still almost didn't work because on their last long drive GB didn't score. Both teams went for it on 4th down and Az was 2 for 2 on 4th down conversions, GB 2 for 4. The key ended up being turnovers a battle GB won 3-0, including the interception in the end zone at the end of the game.

The Cats didn't control the ball against ISU and won. We didn't win the turnover battle, and won. I know this is Captain Obvious type stuff now but the difference was when we had the ball we scored and they didn't. Long time consuming drives don't help if you don't score, but I think against a team like EWU a time consuming scoring drive is better than a quick one because it limits their possessions. If you limit their possessions the errors (turnovers, missed extra points) are magnified.

Interesting stats from the Weebs/Ewoo game. Weber won the TOP 35-25 and was 5-5 on red zone opportunities (2 FGs). Eastern was 4-5 on red zone opportunities and did not attempt a field goal. Eastern had 5 sacks Weber had 0. Both teams lost 2 fumbles. Eastern threw one interception, Weber none. So weebs barely won the turnover battle 3-2.

[tetoncat]

While EWU offense did thrash UM, Griz still had a chance to win at the end. Griz and Weber held them well below average in points and ran the ball well. I think our D is better and we also can keep them in the mid 30's. I think we run the ball better than both. Key will be do we get conservative in red zone and settle for field goals or punch it in for TD.

[94VegasCat]

Bobcat offense>Weber offense>griz offense
Bobcat defense>Weber defense>griz defense

CATS play mistake free and wear ewoo down by consistently converting 3rd downs, keep the clock running, limit EB’s ability to go wild, and win the turnover ratio: WE WIN.

[kwcat]

Honestly your all partially right and vice versa. I believe the key is the coaches ability to adjust the plan to the situation that presents itself at the moment. EWU knows our strengths as we know there's. Which team can get there kids to adjust fastest wins. I believe MSU has smarter athletes than EWU and we will make the adjustments that EWU cannot make. They are a single dimension team, always have been. Living I Spokane I get a chance to see them play a few times a year and they play exciting and quite predictable ball. Go Cats

I would add to your comments. In order to win, MSU coaches will need to demonstrate the ability to make real time adjustments or even be one step ahead of EWU coaches to win. Vigen’s comments are a lot like Choates were early in his career. They were both very good at knowing what they did wrong when they lost the game but it took Choate quite a while to make those changes real time and turn them into wins.
Here’s to our coaching staff getting her done quicker. Go Cats!

[coloradocat]

Honestly your all partially right and vice versa. I believe the key is the coaches ability to adjust the plan to the situation that presents itself at the moment. EWU knows our strengths as we know there's. Which team can get there kids to adjust fastest wins. I believe MSU has smarter athletes than EWU and we will make the adjustments that EWU cannot make. They are a single dimension team, always have been. Living I Spokane I get a chance to see them play a few times a year and they play exciting and quite predictable ball. Go Cats

I would add to your comments. In order to win, MSU coaches will need to demonstrate the ability to make real time adjustments or even be one step ahead of EWU coaches to win. Vigen’s comments are a lot like Choates were early in his career. They were both very good at knowing what they did wrong when they lost the game but it took Choate quite a while to make those changes real time and turn them into wins.
Here’s to our coaching staff getting her done quicker. Go Cats!

Even waiting until halftime to determine adjustments (Choate teams were good at this) may be too late against a team like EWU. I feel good about our defense's ability to adjust drive to drive. The test is if the offense can do the same, or at least quarter to quarter.

[Cledus]

[The MICKSTER]

[PapaG]

Watched the Weber game on Monday (side note those of you griping about ESPN+ can shove it. This wouldn't have been an option before this year. And moaning about production is like being an ass to your waitress over the way your steak is cooked. They do not control production, just distro). Weber definitely relied on their DB's by rushing only 4 and sometimes just 3 and dropping 7-8 into coverage. Saying EB was running for his life isn't true. He had lots of time and was the leading rusher for EWU by a wide margin because after standing in the pocket for 4 or 5, it would open up he would tuck and run. I'm not sure the Cats can employ the same strategy as I'm not sure we are as strong on the backend as Weber. We are definitely younger. The griz used their blitz every down scheme and he shredded them. EB also just didn't have a great game Saturday. He started something like 1 for 7 and just missed some open guys. Might be to much to ask for a 2nd equal performance. The thing that the Cats have though is I think they CAN get to him with just 4 and occasionally 5 guys. Weber's front is good but the Cat's is better and if Benson is constantly getting doubles guys will come free.

The ESPN+ broadcast for the Idaho State game was a joke. Seems like that opinion upsets you. Oh well.

[Long Time Cat]

Watched the Weber game on Monday (side note those of you griping about ESPN+ can shove it. This wouldn't have been an option before this year. And moaning about production is like being an ass to your waitress over the way your steak is cooked. They do not control production, just distro). Weber definitely relied on their DB's by rushing only 4 and sometimes just 3 and dropping 7-8 into coverage. Saying EB was running for his life isn't true. He had lots of time and was the leading rusher for EWU by a wide margin because after standing in the pocket for 4 or 5, it would open up he would tuck and run. I'm not sure the Cats can employ the same strategy as I'm not sure we are as strong on the backend as Weber. We are definitely younger. The griz used their blitz every down scheme and he shredded them. EB also just didn't have a great game Saturday. He started something like 1 for 7 and just missed some open guys. Might be to much to ask for a 2nd equal performance. The thing that the Cats have though is I think they CAN get to him with just 4 and occasionally 5 guys. Weber's front is good but the Cat's is better and if Benson is constantly getting doubles guys will come free.

The ESPN+ broadcast for the Idaho State game was a joke. Seems like that opinion upsets you. Oh well.

Some people were happy to have a broadcast to watch even if it wasn't top notch. Seems like that opinion upsets you. Oh well.