New Coach Bob Cole

[wbtfg]

so he is a former Griz coach that has a son named Bobby?

INTERESTING.

Honestly he seems like he knows what he is doing with the passing game, so I hope he helps the players and helps McGhee mature as a coach. - Not a slam at all on McGhee, just any extra help he can learn from as he continues in his career.

As "passing game coordinator," it seems he was hired more so to help Armstrong design passing plays.

Choate provided some good insight on this during his press conference that colter posted.


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[Montanabob]

so he is a former Griz coach that has a son named Bobby?

INTERESTING.

Honestly he seems like he knows what he is doing with the passing game, so I hope he helps the players and helps McGhee mature as a coach. - Not a slam at all on McGhee, just any extra help he can learn from as he continues in his career.

As "passing game coordinator," it seems he was hired more so to help Armstrong design passing plays.

I don't disagree but i'm assuming he's there to help the offense as a whole.

I would see him mostly working with QB's and OC. With some WR/OL thrown in for good measure.

honestly I'm really excited about the hire and the help, I think someone that can help players and coaches a like is a great thing.

I re-read my statement above and I wasn't implying that McGhee is a poor coach, just that he is young and any additional help or resources is a great thing for a young coach, to be able to bounce ideas off of.

His hiring may in fact be the pretext for making a change at the QB position...methinks.

Not as a pretext, just to fix the passing game. It was more than QB and receivers, play calling and route design needed help.

[catsrback76]

so he is a former Griz coach that has a son named Bobby?

INTERESTING.

Honestly he seems like he knows what he is doing with the passing game, so I hope he helps the players and helps McGhee mature as a coach. - Not a slam at all on McGhee, just any extra help he can learn from as he continues in his career.

As "passing game coordinator," it seems he was hired more so to help Armstrong design passing plays.

I don't disagree but i'm assuming he's there to help the offense as a whole.

I would see him mostly working with QB's and OC. With some WR/OL thrown in for good measure.

honestly I'm really excited about the hire and the help, I think someone that can help players and coaches a like is a great thing.

I re-read my statement above and I wasn't implying that McGhee is a poor coach, just that he is young and any additional help or resources is a great thing for a young coach, to be able to bounce ideas off of.

His hiring may in fact be the pretext for making a change at the QB position...methinks.

Not as a pretext, just to fix the passing game. It was more than QB and receivers, play calling and route design needed help.

Very true!

[TomCat88]

so he is a former Griz coach that has a son named Bobby?

INTERESTING.

Honestly he seems like he knows what he is doing with the passing game, so I hope he helps the players and helps McGhee mature as a coach. - Not a slam at all on McGhee, just any extra help he can learn from as he continues in his career.

As "passing game coordinator," it seems he was hired more so to help Armstrong design passing plays.

I don't disagree but i'm assuming he's there to help the offense as a whole.

I would see him mostly working with QB's and OC. With some WR/OL thrown in for good measure.

honestly I'm really excited about the hire and the help, I think someone that can help players and coaches a like is a great thing.

I re-read my statement above and I wasn't implying that McGhee is a poor coach, just that he is young and any additional help or resources is a great thing for a young coach, to be able to bounce ideas off of.

His hiring may in fact be the pretext for making a change at the QB position...methinks.

You and Murray remind me of the relationship between the cat and the sheep herder pig in the movie Babe.

[Cledus]

I don't see this as pushing Murray out, but a commitment to improving the air game. But unless Murray makes some big strides, it probably puts him at a disadvantage competing for the position.

[TomCat88]

I don't see this as pushing Murray out, but a commitment to improving the air game. But unless Murray makes some big strides, it probably puts him at a disadvantage competing for the position.

I would say Jonsen, Rovig, McChesney...anyone competing for the job needs to make a big stride.

[catsrback76]

I don't see this as pushing Murray out, but a commitment to improving the air game. But unless Murray makes some big strides, it probably puts him at a disadvantage competing for the position.

I would say Jonsen, Rovig, McChesney...anyone competing for the job needs to make a big stride.

It is definitely NOT about pushing Murray out. I agree with TomCat that EVERYONE needs to makes strides in the QB position. For Murray it is about passing consistently and better...for Rovig and company it is about experience at the FCS level Qb'ing. At any rate, I am no hater of Murray, just a firm believer that the stripes on the tiger won't change. If they do, I will be first in line singing Hallelujah and will love the results.

[wbtfg]

so he is a former Griz coach that has a son named Bobby?

INTERESTING.

Honestly he seems like he knows what he is doing with the passing game, so I hope he helps the players and helps McGhee mature as a coach. - Not a slam at all on McGhee, just any extra help he can learn from as he continues in his career.

As "passing game coordinator," it seems he was hired more so to help Armstrong design passing plays.

I don't disagree but i'm assuming he's there to help the offense as a whole.

I would see him mostly working with QB's and OC. With some WR/OL thrown in for good measure.

honestly I'm really excited about the hire and the help, I think someone that can help players and coaches a like is a great thing.

I re-read my statement above and I wasn't implying that McGhee is a poor coach, just that he is young and any additional help or resources is a great thing for a young coach, to be able to bounce ideas off of.

His hiring may in fact be the pretext for making a change at the QB position...methinks.

Not as a pretext, just to fix the passing game. It was more than QB and receivers, play calling and route design needed help.

Also, as Choate mentioned, our quarterback coach and wide receiver coach are both really young guys who are bright stars in the coaching profession, but definitely a lack experience. Cole is a guy who can come in and not only help play design, but can help Matt Miller and Demerius improve as offensive coaches.

It was also interesting to hear that Armstrong was a graduate assistant at Utah State under Bob Cole. So those two, it would seem, have a strong working relationship and Armstrong likely could learn a lot as well.


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[TomCat88]

I don't see this as pushing Murray out, but a commitment to improving the air game. But unless Murray makes some big strides, it probably puts him at a disadvantage competing for the position.

I would say Jonsen, Rovig, McChesney...anyone competing for the job needs to make a big stride.

It is definitely NOT about pushing Murray out. I agree with TomCat that EVERYONE needs to makes strides in the QB position. For Murray it is about passing consistently and better...for Rovig and company it is about experience at the FCS level Qb'ing. At any rate, I am no hater of Murray, just a firm believer that the stripes on the tiger won't change. If they do, I will be first in line singing Hallelujah and will love the results.

It’s just this kind of zesty banter that has kept my wife and I together for 19 years, 7 months and 13 days now. Keeps Bobcat fans united too.

[superbobcat]

I really appreciate the vision and philosophy behind this move. Not only does Coach Choate look out for our players, but he is also trying to better his young coaching staff. I like the fact that Coach Armstrong has had a previous working relationship with Coach Cole. IMO this is a really smart move.

[95bcfb]

I really like this hire and what I like about it is that it shows that Choate is willing to evaluate the team not just from a players perspective but from a coaching perspective. Last year he brought in McGee to improve the QB position. This year he brings in Cole. I love the fact that he is constantly trying to get better, evaluating the program as a whole, and is not satisfied with the status quo. We will see if Cole makes us better but what we know is that Choate is not afraid to make changes to get better.

[imacat]

I really like this hire and what I like about it is that it shows that Choate is willing to evaluate the team not just from a players perspective but from a coaching perspective. Last year he brought in McGee to improve the QB position. This year he brings in Cole. I love the fact that he is constantly trying to get better, evaluating the program as a whole, and is not satisfied with the status quo. We will see if Cole makes us better but what we know is that Choate is not afraid to make changes to get better.

I also like this hire a lot BUT the elephant in the room is Armstrong. He is a below average OC. This move (to me) is like trying to apply a patch instead of addressing the root cause.


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[wbtfg]

I really like this hire and what I like about it is that it shows that Choate is willing to evaluate the team not just from a players perspective but from a coaching perspective. Last year he brought in McGee to improve the QB position. This year he brings in Cole. I love the fact that he is constantly trying to get better, evaluating the program as a whole, and is not satisfied with the status quo. We will see if Cole makes us better but what we know is that Choate is not afraid to make changes to get better.

I also like this hire a lot BUT the elephant in the room is Armstrong. He did not do a good job last season. This move (to me) is like trying to apply a patch instead of addressing the root cause.


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I’m not sure Armstrong is the elephant in the room. It’s hard to know how much our issues were because of playcalling and play design compared to poor execution. Really, the only ones who would know that are the coaches and players. I would say though, I thought our run game was pretty bad ass this year.




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[Cataholic]

I really like this hire and what I like about it is that it shows that Choate is willing to evaluate the team not just from a players perspective but from a coaching perspective. Last year he brought in McGee to improve the QB position. This year he brings in Cole. I love the fact that he is constantly trying to get better, evaluating the program as a whole, and is not satisfied with the status quo. We will see if Cole makes us better but what we know is that Choate is not afraid to make changes to get better.

I also like this hire a lot BUT the elephant in the room is Armstrong. He did not do a good job last season. This move (to me) is like trying to apply a patch instead of addressing the root cause.


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I’m not sure Armstrong is the elephant in the room. It’s hard to know how much our issues were because of playcalling and play design compared to poor execution. Really, the only ones who would know that are the coaches and players. I would say though, I thought our run game was pretty bad ass this year.




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I agree with Wbtfg. Hard to blame Armstrong for issues could be completely execution. Take a look at the last offensive play against Kennesaw. If that pass is thrown accurately, we have nice completion and are closer to a field goal attempt. Instead, we have an interception and game over. I would have handed the ball off and played it safe, but Armstrong really did not make a bad play call. It was poor execution on the field.

[bpcats20]

Choate has talked about championship level play from our qb. Kennesaw State?? that we played made it to quarterfinals without much of passing game. They were dominant in run game. When somebody mentions championship level play, I always think completion percentage.

Pocket passer- 67-70% - Rovig

Running threat- 63-65%- Jonsen

Elite runner- 60%. - Murray (was around 50%?? this year).

[technoCat]

I really like this hire and what I like about it is that it shows that Choate is willing to evaluate the team not just from a players perspective but from a coaching perspective. Last year he brought in McGee to improve the QB position. This year he brings in Cole. I love the fact that he is constantly trying to get better, evaluating the program as a whole, and is not satisfied with the status quo. We will see if Cole makes us better but what we know is that Choate is not afraid to make changes to get better.

I also like this hire a lot BUT the elephant in the room is Armstrong. He did not do a good job last season. This move (to me) is like trying to apply a patch instead of addressing the root cause.


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I’m not sure Armstrong is the elephant in the room. It’s hard to know how much our issues were because of playcalling and play design compared to poor execution. Really, the only ones who would know that are the coaches and players. I would say though, I thought our run game was pretty bad ass this year.




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I agree with Wbtfg. Hard to blame Armstrong for issues could be completely execution. Take a look at the last offensive play against Kennesaw. If that pass is thrown accurately, we have nice completion and are closer to a field goal attempt. Instead, we have an interception and game over. I would have handed the ball off and played it safe, but Armstrong really did not make a bad play call. It was poor execution on the field.

That was a poor play call in my opinion. The kid have been on the bench for 12 minutes of game time and you ask him to make one of the hardest throws there is for little gain. The corner was right there to stop the receiver if it had been completed. While I agree that not all the blame can be placed on Armstrong, he needs to have a feel for whats going on and make calls to help his young QB. I think he will get much better with a year under his belt.

[BLACKnBLUEnGOLD]

Coaches can't just spend all season calling whatever plays they like and hoping players will suddenly learn to execute them. Guys improving substantially during the middle of the season is pretty rare. During the first few games, the coach has to figure out what his players are capable of. After that, he has to restrict his playcalling to plays that his players are capable of executing. If those aren't his favorite plays, too damn bad. Be flexible.

Armstrong has been better about this than Messingham was.

[1984TwoMinutesHate]

I agree with Wbtfg. Hard to blame Armstrong for issues could be completely execution. Take a look at the last offensive play against Kennesaw. If that pass is thrown accurately, we have nice completion and are closer to a field goal attempt. Instead, we have an interception and game over. I would have handed the ball off and played it safe, but Armstrong really did not make a bad play call. It was poor execution on the field.

Armstrong had an up-and-down year as the OC. I was down on him mid-way through, but regained confidence in him as the season ended. I think he did a lot of good things over the year & has potential to become a better OC still. I wasn't an initial fan of all pre-snap circus motioning going on, but I began to see there was a method to the madness in the run game with it. We shouldn't lose any faith in Armstrong yet.

One concern we have with Murray is that he is not an accurate cold weather passer yet. That's what we witnessed on the last play of the Kennesaw St game with the inerrant pass. This is something that Murray needs to continue to work on. Keep in mind it was about 5 degrees outside & the Cats had controlled the entire game up until the end. Kennesaw St, by the way, was a top 10 FCS squad last season.

[iaafan]

It was 20 degrees vs Kennesaw.

[imacat]

I felt the same way about Messingham and then his offense wins a NC ....


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