What a stupid post! The Griz have only played 3 FCS teams with a winning record: NDSU, Sac State and SACRED HEART!HookedOnGriz wrote: ↑Thu Nov 06, 2025 8:15 pmWell there’s this. Cats aren’t even on the “3” listPapaG wrote: ↑Wed Nov 05, 2025 11:10 amThe Oregon game isn’t “irrelevant” when Gris fans are using W/L record as a point of comparison.MrGoodKat wrote: ↑Wed Nov 05, 2025 9:10 amHere's an offense/defense breakdown in BSC play.MrGoodKat wrote: ↑Mon Nov 03, 2025 3:24 pmOne more interesting comparison.
The Cats and Griz have both played 5 BSC games, they have both played 2 games at home and 3 on the road, and their collective opponents' records are an identical 18-27.
In those conference games, the Cats are +177 points in scoring differential, good for 35.4 PPG. Their smallest margin was the 17 point victory over CP.
In their conference games, the Griz are +79 points in scoring differential, good for 15.8 PPG. Their smallest margin was their 4 point victory over ISU.
The Griz have scored 198 points in five conference games, good for 39.6 PPG.
They have allowed 129 points in those same games, or 25.8 PPG.
The Cats have scored 228 points in five conference games, good for 45.6 PPG.
They have allowed 51 points in those same games, or 10.2 PPG.
Here's why this is interesting to me:
A lot of the discourse around the Cat/Griz comparison so far this season has focused on SOS. Griz fans have obviously (and fairly) highlighted that UM is undefeated and the Cats have two losses. Cat fans have responded that they've played a tougher schedule. The response to that (again, I think fairly) is that the stronger SOS is basically based on the Oregon game, which is basically irrelevant.
So my suggestion is throw the OOC play out altogether and just focus on what's truly comparable: conference play. The SOS in-conference between the Cats and the Griz is literally identical. And what it reveals is that MSU is a substantially better performing team. That's even true in regards to offense, where the narrative in the media right now definitely favors the Griz. The Cats are almost a touchdown better and then obviously on the defensive side, they're 2.5 times better in terms of points allowed.
I think this is getting lost in a lot of the coverage of the team teams.
UM hasn’t played anyone like Oregon, or even SDSU when they were healthy, and that’s really what matters in the SOS argument if W/L record matters.
The “best” team UM played is probably UND, and they just got beaten by a 4-loss team.
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Do they explain their methodology anywhere?
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PFSN's College QB Impact (QBi) assigns a numerical score and a letter grade to a quarterback's performance. We arrive at the grade by considering both a QB's passing and rushing performance. Certain more stable factors like clean pocket performance and designed rushing success get weighted more than less stable ones like pressure performance and scrambling. We also add a "clutch" component that gives extra weight to how quarterbacks perform in high-leverage situations.
To qualify for the season leaderboard, a QB must average at least 15 plays per game (dropbacks or designed runs) while playing in at least half his team's games that season. To qualify for the games leaderboard, a QB must have participated in at least 15 plays that game.
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