FCS Championship Game

[tetoncat]

If the season had a title, it would be: The Battle for Second Place. Second place was a great race. So close that the eventual winner of the silver medal needed two OT wins at home to get there over a 7 seed and an unseeded team. Seems like the 2-9 teams were fairly even. In matchups of 2-9 teams there was just one blowout - NDSU over USD. Quite a few close calls for other seeded teams.

Your counterparts at Skyline and the rest of MT media have repeatedly said UM was clear #2. I think there was a clear 2-5. UM, NDSU, MSU, FURMAN. You are spot on that 2 home OT playoff wins do not set Griz apart from rest of group.

[tdub]

I noticed on one of the kick-offs that the gris attempted to team up and attempt to ‘throw’ at least one if not two SDSU players into the path of the ball as it was rolling in attempt to get a turn over. I don’t know if I’ve ever seen that. Is that a new technique that’s allowable?

I’ve seen that quite a bit in college football this season. I think it’s total bush league. But also, if they are grabbing and pulling, in my eyes that is the definition of holding. If they push from behind…block in the back. Only permissible way in my eyes would be driving a blocker back into the ball from the front. Wouldn’t be surprised if that’s addressed in officiating land this off season.

[CodyCat]

McDowell got exposed in this game. Can not believe hauck punted there. That's weak tea.

He’s given up. Hopefully the jacks take it to 30 to 3.

He's also hurt. He hasn't looked good all day.

Yeah we need to give the kid some credit. He couldn't really run after the first few possessions.

And yet when Colter asked if McDowell being hurt had an impact on the game, Bobby insisted that McD wasn't injured.

and when Colter asked "can you hear me?". hauck's response was "unfortunately".

I didnt watch the game. And I certainly had no desire to watch his post game presser until you posted this. WOWZA! Just when you think you've seen it all with that guy. Haha.

[Montanabob]

I noticed on one of the kick-offs that the gris attempted to team up and attempt to ‘throw’ at least one if not two SDSU players into the path of the ball as it was rolling in attempt to get a turn over. I don’t know if I’ve ever seen that. Is that a new technique that’s allowable?

that is defensive holding and was NOT called.

[Augustus]

...and when Colter asked "can you hear me?". hauck's response was "unfortunately".

Always the class act, that one. He's a piece of garbage. Always has been, always will be.

[gris_h8er]

Has anyone heard from grisnaturalist, catfluff, gocartsgo, and those guys? I'm worried about them. They really seemed to think the gris were already national champions before this horrible loss. Pretty sure they local news had an article that was nothing more than one of those guys packing his best clothes for Texas. Looked like he packed them well. Wonder how the return trip will turn out? Hopefully we get a nice update on that from the local news

Silence from them but egris is an abyss of delusion

Delusion over how great they really are?

100% “it was a great season” “just a little more from the offense” “it’s all cause they didn’t call holding gubner’s jersey was torn” blah blah blah

Even though trolling is frowned upon I created a thread that ruffled some feathers and got me banned

They were very upset to be reminded that baby hauk is 0-4

Nice job!

Update: account number 3 has been banned. They’re so thin skinned it’s more effort than it’s worth.

You're proud of this? Yikes

My thoughts exactly. Not a good look.

I hate the griz as much as anybody, but they just went 13-2, kicked our asses this year and played for a national title. Not the year to talk s**t…

Egris is cheap entertainment

No s**t talking. Just inconvenient facts to fuel their meltdowns.

[gris_h8er]

Has anyone heard from grisnaturalist, catfluff, gocartsgo, and those guys? I'm worried about them. They really seemed to think the gris were already national champions before this horrible loss. Pretty sure they local news had an article that was nothing more than one of those guys packing his best clothes for Texas. Looked like he packed them well. Wonder how the return trip will turn out? Hopefully we get a nice update on that from the local news

Silence from them but egris is an abyss of delusion

The egris mod who trolls here was banning/suspending posters for being critical after that beatdown where it seems the UM offense didn’t even show up to the game. Longtime BN troll @GrizinWashington who is EverretGris there is cheering on the mod removing posts and silencing any posts calling out the coaches. The worst fan forum on the internet topped itself yesterday in being ridiculous. Well worth the minute or so reading it to witness the complete hypocrisy exhibited by those two goofs who are major trolls themselves.

https://egriz.com/grizboard/viewforum.p ... e_vignette

Egris is nothing more than cheap entertainment at the hands of illiterate gris fans. It rarely disappoints from an entertainment standpoint. I like to stir them up from time to time to add to the comedy. There are way better uses of my time but it’s good for a laugh now and then.

[1890Griz]

We still hold our edge in football championships at 3-2 over the frizz. And of course no one will ever touch us as the only school in the country with national championships in the three most important sports: Football, basketball, and rodeo. We won football in '56, '76 and '84. Hoops in '29. And rodeo in '72, '75 and '88.

I’m sorry, but I just cannot accept a 0-0 tie in the NAIA championship as a legit Championship. If we’re being generous and include your D2 Natty, then our teams are tied 2-2 for Football. Although, The ‘84 D1 Natty was well deserved and should be counted no matter the circumstances.

[1890Griz]

Silence from them but egris is an abyss of delusion

Delusion over how great they really are?

100% “it was a great season” “just a little more from the offense” “it’s all cause they didn’t call holding gubner’s jersey was torn” blah blah blah

Even though trolling is frowned upon I created a thread that ruffled some feathers and got me banned

They were very upset to be reminded that baby hauk is 0-4

Nice job!

Update: account number 3 has been banned. They’re so thin skinned it’s more effort than it’s worth.

You're proud of this? Yikes

My thoughts exactly. Not a good look.

I hate the griz as much as anybody, but they just went 13-2, kicked our asses this year and played for a national title. Not the year to talk s**t…

Egris is cheap entertainment

No s**t talking. Just inconvenient facts to fuel their meltdowns.

Egriz and BCN are both cesspools. Ask any neutral observer.

[John K]

We still hold our edge in football championships at 3-2 over the frizz. And of course no one will ever touch us as the only school in the country with national championships in the three most important sports: Football, basketball, and rodeo. We won football in '56, '76 and '84. Hoops in '29. And rodeo in '72, '75 and '88.

I’m sorry, but I just cannot accept a 0-0 tie in the NAIA championship as a legit Championship. If we’re being generous and include your D2 Natty, then our teams are tied 2-2 for Football. Although, The ‘84 D1 Natty was well deserved and should be counted no matter the circumstances.

I guarantee you that if it had been the griz who won a D-II NC in 1976, every griz fan on the planet would "count it" as being 100% legit, without considering it as "being generous" to do so. That was before I-AA/FCS even existed so it was still the 2nd highest level of college football at that time. If you want to dispute the 1956 NAIA title, so be it, but there should be no debate about the 1976 NC.

[Bocephus]

We still hold our edge in football championships at 3-2 over the frizz. And of course no one will ever touch us as the only school in the country with national championships in the three most important sports: Football, basketball, and rodeo. We won football in '56, '76 and '84. Hoops in '29. And rodeo in '72, '75 and '88.

I’m sorry, but I just cannot accept a 0-0 tie in the NAIA championship as a legit Championship. If we’re being generous and include your D2 Natty, then our teams are tied 2-2 for Football. Although, The ‘84 D1 Natty was well deserved and should be counted no matter the circumstances.

I guarantee you that if it had been the griz who won a D-II NC in 1976, every griz fan on the planet would "count it" as being 100% legit, without considering it as "being generous" to do so. That was before I-AA/FCS even existed so it was still the 2nd highest level of college football at that time. If you want to dispute the 1956 NAIA title, so be it, but there should be no debate about the 1976 NC.

Lucky for you @1890Griz, and us, you’re not the one that decides.

[91catAlum]

We still hold our edge in football championships at 3-2 over the frizz. And of course no one will ever touch us as the only school in the country with national championships in the three most important sports: Football, basketball, and rodeo. We won football in '56, '76 and '84. Hoops in '29. And rodeo in '72, '75 and '88.

I’m sorry, but I just cannot accept a 0-0 tie in the NAIA championship as a legit Championship. If we’re being generous and include your D2 Natty, then our teams are tied 2-2 for Football. Although, The ‘84 D1 Natty was well deserved and should be counted no matter the circumstances.

We don't care whether or not you accept it. Literally everyone outside griz nation accepts it.

[84CatGrad]

We still hold our edge in football championships at 3-2 over the frizz. And of course no one will ever touch us as the only school in the country with national championships in the three most important sports: Football, basketball, and rodeo. We won football in '56, '76 and '84. Hoops in '29. And rodeo in '72, '75 and '88.

I’m sorry, but I just cannot accept a 0-0 tie in the NAIA championship as a legit Championship. If we’re being generous and include your D2 Natty, then our teams are tied 2-2 for Football. Although, The ‘84 D1 Natty was well deserved and should be counted no matter the circumstances.

We were named the champs after the tie per the process in place at the time. It's not a shared title. We won.

[AFCAT]

We still hold our edge in football championships at 3-2 over the frizz. And of course no one will ever touch us as the only school in the country with national championships in the three most important sports: Football, basketball, and rodeo. We won football in '56, '76 and '84. Hoops in '29. And rodeo in '72, '75 and '88.

I’m sorry, but I just cannot accept a 0-0 tie in the NAIA championship as a legit Championship. If we’re being generous and include your D2 Natty, then our teams are tied 2-2 for Football. Although, The ‘84 D1 Natty was well deserved and should be counted no matter the circumstances.

Thanks for being generous and including a title that was won through the playoff system of its time. That’s very kind of you.

[Catsrgrood]

We still hold our edge in football championships at 3-2 over the frizz. And of course no one will ever touch us as the only school in the country with national championships in the three most important sports: Football, basketball, and rodeo. We won football in '56, '76 and '84. Hoops in '29. And rodeo in '72, '75 and '88.

I’m sorry, but I just cannot accept a 0-0 tie in the NAIA championship as a legit Championship. If we’re being generous and include your D2 Natty, then our teams are tied 2-2 for Football. Although, The ‘84 D1 Natty was well deserved and should be counted no matter the circumstances.

Thanks for being generous and including a title that was won through the playoff system of its time. That’s very kind of you.

So the Big Sky started in 63’ with the Cats and Griz both as members in the same level, right?
The Cats won that D2 title in 76.
The griz were at that same level in 76, right?

So how does the 76’ title count as any less than either of their 2?

If we’re looking at apples to apples comparisons, the titles are 2-2 while both teams are playing at the same level. There is no argument here, these two “count” under any possible way of looking at it.

[AFCAT]

We still hold our edge in football championships at 3-2 over the frizz. And of course no one will ever touch us as the only school in the country with national championships in the three most important sports: Football, basketball, and rodeo. We won football in '56, '76 and '84. Hoops in '29. And rodeo in '72, '75 and '88.

I’m sorry, but I just cannot accept a 0-0 tie in the NAIA championship as a legit Championship. If we’re being generous and include your D2 Natty, then our teams are tied 2-2 for Football. Although, The ‘84 D1 Natty was well deserved and should be counted no matter the circumstances.

Thanks for being generous and including a title that was won through the playoff system of its time. That’s very kind of you.

So the Big Sky started in 63’ with the Cats and Griz both as members in the same level, right?
The Cats won that D2 title in 76.
The griz were at that same level in 76, right?

So how does the 76’ title count as any less than either of their 2?

If we’re looking at apples to apples comparisons, the titles are 2-2 while both teams are playing at the same level. There is no argument here, these two “count” under any possible way of looking at it.

You could throw in the 1956 National Championship MSC team that played up a division and destroyed the gris in Missoula too. The gris played Wyoming, Colorado State, Utah, and others in their conference but couldn’t beat MSC back then.

[VimSince03]

We still hold our edge in football championships at 3-2 over the frizz. And of course no one will ever touch us as the only school in the country with national championships in the three most important sports: Football, basketball, and rodeo. We won football in '56, '76 and '84. Hoops in '29. And rodeo in '72, '75 and '88.

I’m sorry, but I just cannot accept a 0-0 tie in the NAIA championship as a legit Championship. If we’re being generous and include your D2 Natty, then our teams are tied 2-2 for Football. Although, The ‘84 D1 Natty was well deserved and should be counted no matter the circumstances.

Thanks for being generous and including a title that was won through the playoff system of its time. That’s very kind of you.

So the Big Sky started in 63’ with the Cats and Griz both as members in the same level, right?
The Cats won that D2 title in 76.
The griz were at that same level in 76, right?

So how does the 76’ title count as any less than either of their 2?

If we’re looking at apples to apples comparisons, the titles are 2-2 while both teams are playing at the same level. There is no argument here, these two “count” under any possible way of looking at it.

FCS started in 1978 so D2 was the level. Realignment and title just changed in 78. Its virtually the same thing and absolutely counts as a National Title...especially since both were part of the same level in 1976. The 1956 title (tie) is certainly an odd one to claim because who on earth ends a national title game in a tie. That was an undefeated season that ended 9-0-1. The Griz were in a conference above us during that time but like AFCAT said, we still played them to keep the rivalry going and won during that era. 1964 was also an odd year as the Bobcats won the Camelia Bowl which was one of four regional division championships played at their level. But the system was kind of like the old CFB scoring system and the title was awarded to one team based on perceived strength of schedule. Anyway, that Jim Sweeney team finished 7-4 but won their regional championship.

MSU has two national titles at the FCS/I-AA/Old-D2 level and one at the NAIA level.

UM has two national titles at the FCS/1-AA level.

Side point: NDSU has racked up 8 D2 titles and 9 FCS titles.

[TomCat88]

We still hold our edge in football championships at 3-2 over the frizz. And of course no one will ever touch us as the only school in the country with national championships in the three most important sports: Football, basketball, and rodeo. We won football in '56, '76 and '84. Hoops in '29. And rodeo in '72, '75 and '88.

I’m sorry, but I just cannot accept a 0-0 tie in the NAIA championship as a legit Championship. If we’re being generous and include your D2 Natty, then our teams are tied 2-2 for Football. Although, The ‘84 D1 Natty was well deserved and should be counted no matter the circumstances.

Thanks for being generous and including a title that was won through the playoff system of its time. That’s very kind of you.

So the Big Sky started in 63’ with the Cats and Griz both as members in the same level, right?
The Cats won that D2 title in 76.
The griz were at that same level in 76, right?

So how does the 76’ title count as any less than either of their 2?

If we’re looking at apples to apples comparisons, the titles are 2-2 while both teams are playing at the same level. There is no argument here, these two “count” under any possible way of looking at it.

FCS started in 1978 so D2 was the level. Realignment and title just changed in 78. Its virtually the same thing and absolutely counts as a National Title...especially since both were part of the same level in 1976.

Very few Griz fans have a hard time touting their big lead in the overall series, which is almost entirely from games played between 1910 and 1954. I think they won something like 40 out of 50 games during that stretch. But when you bring up that NAIA title (there have been a lot of 'ties' for national titles over the years) they have a tough time with it. MSU (NAIA) beat UM (NCAA) in 1956. It's a can't have your cake and eat it too situation. If they don't want to count that title, then I guess no one should count any games played before 1956. Can't have it both ways.

[WalkOn79]

We still hold our edge in football championships at 3-2 over the frizz. And of course no one will ever touch us as the only school in the country with national championships in the three most important sports: Football, basketball, and rodeo. We won football in '56, '76 and '84. Hoops in '29. And rodeo in '72, '75 and '88.

I’m sorry, but I just cannot accept a 0-0 tie in the NAIA championship as a legit Championship. If we’re being generous and include your D2 Natty, then our teams are tied 2-2 for Football. Although, The ‘84 D1 Natty was well deserved and should be counted no matter the circumstances.

I guarantee you that if it had been the griz who won a D-II NC in 1976, every griz fan on the planet would "count it" as being 100% legit, without considering it as "being generous" to do so. That was before I-AA/FCS even existed so it was still the 2nd highest level of college football at that time. If you want to dispute the 1956 NAIA title, so be it, but there should be no debate about the 1976 NC.

How many teams that were DII in 1976 are FBS now, including several from our own conference? I would argue the competition in DII back then was much tougher than FCS now.

[RickRund]

I noticed on one of the kick-offs that the gris attempted to team up and attempt to ‘throw’ at least one if not two SDSU players into the path of the ball as it was rolling in attempt to get a turn over. I don’t know if I’ve ever seen that. Is that a new technique that’s allowable?

Yes, it was on a punt... If I remember correctly.