How do Cats stack up against Griz

[kwcat]

The Oregon game isn’t “irrelevant” when Gris fans are using W/L record as a point of comparison.

UM hasn’t played anyone like Oregon, or even SDSU when they were healthy, and that’s really what matters in the SOS argument if W/L record matters.

The “best” team UM played is probably UND, and they just got beaten by a 4-loss team.

Sure, it's relevant in the sense that it accounts for one of the losses and therefore the Cats only have one loss that really deserves to be considered.

However, it's irrelevant in the sense that it won't be counted against MSU in ranking or seeding and therefore it doesn't make sense to cite it for the sake of SOS resume building.

I'll put it this way:

MSU's resume is not and should not be harmed by the fact that they have a road loss to a highly ranked FBS team.

Also, MSU's resume is not and should not be enhanced by the fact that they went to Eugene and got their doors blown off.

So throw out that loss for the Cats and throw out the Central Washington game for the Griz. Where does that leave them? With essentially comparable schedules:

-Both teams have played 5 conference games, 2 at home and 3 on the road; the collective records of the two opponent sets are identical at 18-27.

-Both teams have played good MVFC team at home that has recently fallen on hard times.

-Both teams have played two weak FCS teams OOC-- Mercyhurst and USD for the Cats; ISU and SH for the Griz.

So the SOS in my mind is basically identical. The difference is that the Griz won their game against UND narrowly and the Cats lost their game against SDSU narrowly. So I have no problem with the Griz being ranked ahead of MSU.

However, I also have no doubt that the Cats are the better team given how much better they've performed in conference play.

It’s going to be a fun rivalry game. It’s interesting that you have no doubt, yet the FCS coaches and the FCS writers who cover the game professionally see the Griz as the better team.

Fun to speculate. But it’s all subjective. We’ll get settled out in a few weeks and through the postseason

[Long Time Cat]

Clearly Sammy Akem is a GINO.....

[MrGoodKat]

And right on time:

The FCS playoff committee ranks MSU #2.

[cats2506]

Clearly Sammy Akem is a GINO.....

If you listen to it all, he specifically says that he is not a Bobcat, this is just how he sees it.

Sammy has some pretty good analysis and insights, he has slowed down his talking some so his breakdowns have become a fun watch

[cats2506]

And right on time:

The FCS playoff committee ranks MSU #2.

I'm sure that they don't count because "they never played the game"

[BelligerentBobcat]

And right on time:

The FCS playoff committee ranks MSU #2.

I'm sure that they don't count because "they never played the game"

He’s already said they’re just administrators who don’t know as much. Dude is consistently hilarious.

[cats2506]

And right on time:

The FCS playoff committee ranks MSU #2.

I'm sure that they don't count because "they never played the game"

He’s already said they’re just administrators who don’t know as much. Dude is consistently hilarious.

Ignoring the fact that they are they same people that are making the final decision.

[catatac]

And right on time:

The FCS playoff committee ranks MSU #2.

They don't count. The only ones that count are the ones that rank the Griz ahead of the Cats.

[Montanabob]

And right on time:

The FCS playoff committee ranks MSU #2.

They don't count. The only ones that count are the ones that rank the Griz ahead of the Cats.

huh?
only thing that matters is the brawl.
Cats win and stay #2.

[MrGoodKat]

I'm frankly really surprised that they put MSU #2. It doesn't really matter that much, because the Brawl will settle the matter either way. But I fully expected UM at #2 and would have thought it was fair. Really, I kind of wish they had been #2. I don't feel like we need to stoke the fire under them any hotter.

[wbtfg]

Clearly Sammy Akem is a GINO.....

If you listen to it all, he specifically says that he is not a Bobcat, this is just how he sees it.

Sammy has some pretty good analysis and insights, he has slowed down his talking some so his breakdowns have become a fun watch

Oh I know.....I just wanted to coin the new term GINO. This seemed like the right opportunity.

[tetoncat]

I'm frankly really surprised that they put MSU #2. It doesn't really matter that much, because the Brawl will settle the matter either way. But I fully expected UM at #2 and would have thought it was fair. Really, I kind of wish they had been #2. I don't feel like we need to stoke the fire under them any hotter.

What has happened since first ranking that would have dropped Cats below Griz, since that is where you thought they would be.

[MrGoodKat]

I'm frankly really surprised that they put MSU #2. It doesn't really matter that much, because the Brawl will settle the matter either way. But I fully expected UM at #2 and would have thought it was fair. Really, I kind of wish they had been #2. I don't feel like we need to stoke the fire under them any hotter.

What has happened since first ranking that would have dropped Cats below Griz, since that is where you thought they would be.

How could I tell you that I didn’t see the first one without appearing to be an idiot?

[BgCATfan]

Points allowed by quarter in conference games:

Cats
Q1 - 2.8
Q2 - 2.6
Q3 - 0.0
Q4 - 4.8

griz
Q1 - 4.0
Q2 - 10.0
Q3 - 5.8
Q4 - 6.0

Really good observation. 47% of points allowed by the Cats come in garbage time. That number is only 23% for the Griz, which is even a little bit misleading because they haven't as consistently put teams away by Q4.

In fact they've had to come from behind in the fourth qtr to win three times.

[mgkcats26]

Clearly Sammy Akem is a GINO.....
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[94VegasCat]

Here’s how we stack up against them:

gris SUCK

We’ll find out for sure in a few weeks.

Until then e@t$h!t gris GO CATS GO

[catatac]

And right on time:

The FCS playoff committee ranks MSU #2.

They don't count. The only ones that count are the ones that rank the Griz ahead of the Cats.

huh?
only thing that matters is the brawl.
Cats win and stay #2.

Ha! I was poking fun at the Griz fan that keeps bragging about the polls that show the Griz ahead of the Cats, while ignoring those (The Committee, Akem) that are saying the Cats are better than the Griz right now.

[cats2506]

I'm frankly really surprised that they put MSU #2. It doesn't really matter that much, because the Brawl will settle the matter either way. But I fully expected UM at #2 and would have thought it was fair. Really, I kind of wish they had been #2. I don't feel like we need to stoke the fire under them any hotter.

What has happened since first ranking that would have dropped Cats below Griz, since that is where you thought they would be.

gris hype machine has jumped into high gear lately. That is why some people that haven't watched any games and only look at the W-L think that um should be above the Cats

[ClowderUp]

PlayerRep suffers yet another humiliating loss over here. Still here though. Takes courage I suppose.

[BelligerentBobcat]

I'm frankly really surprised that they put MSU #2. It doesn't really matter that much, because the Brawl will settle the matter either way. But I fully expected UM at #2 and would have thought it was fair. Really, I kind of wish they had been #2. I don't feel like we need to stoke the fire under them any hotter.

What has happened since first ranking that would have dropped Cats below Griz, since that is where you thought they would be.

How could I tell you that I didn’t see the first one without appearing to be an idiot?

IDIOT!