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[Prodigal Cat]

So here is a question. If NDSU loses to SDSU, then NDSU and Cats are both X-1 in FCS games. Cats loss to SDSU was inches in double overtime. If SDSU handles NDSU much easier, does that vault Cats over NDSU? I would think it should as well, but "will it?"

no. History has shown that in the case of similar resume's, the tie goes to the MVFC team. Also, the Cats will have lost at home to the Jacks, NDSU will have lost in Brookings.

[coloradocat]

So here is a question. If NDSU loses to SDSU, then NDSU and Cats are both X-1 in FCS games. Cats loss to SDSU was inches in double overtime. If SDSU handles NDSU much easier, does that vault Cats over NDSU? I would think it should as well, but "will it?"

NDSU plays SDSU on the road so them losing is not as bad as us losing at home unless it is by at least 2 TDs. I think if SDSU wins by 14 we have to beat the griz by about the same amount or more to lock up a higher seed than NDSU. Also, because the Marker is earlier in the season I think we'll remain below the loser of that game until Cat-griz, and the griz might as well. Essentially the winner will/could jump NDSU but has to win the game, probably convincingly, to do so.

[MSU01]

So here is a question. If NDSU loses to SDSU, then NDSU and Cats are both X-1 in FCS games. Cats loss to SDSU was inches in double overtime. If SDSU handles NDSU much easier, does that vault Cats over NDSU? I would think it should as well, but "will it?"

No, I think NDSU will always get the benefit of the doubt at this point until MSU actually shows they can beat them.

[ClowderUp]

So here is a question. If NDSU loses to SDSU, then NDSU and Cats are both X-1 in FCS games. Cats loss to SDSU was inches in double overtime. If SDSU handles NDSU much easier, does that vault Cats over NDSU? I would think it should as well, but "will it?"

Fair question, but I personally don't think so. Markers at #1 and #2 in that scenario.

[Joe Bobcat]

I disagree. If SDSU loses twice and we win out, we would absolutely jump them in the seeds.

Wrong. The head to head would give the nod to the Jacks all day. NO WAY a 10-2 SDSU is ranked below a 10-2 MSU.

You might be right Prodigal Cat but the committee would have to look very hard at the recent losses of a 10-2 SDSU record. I think there are numerous examples from past seasons that show the committee gives a little more weight to teams record at the end of the season. That seems to happen to the loser of Cat Griz often.
I do not expect to see a 10-2 SDSU though.

[kwcat]

[Prodigal Cat]

Dom Izzo might be one of the only Bison I enjoy listening to.

Sam here proves what I'm saying. In '22 Sac St was undefeated with a FBS win but was the 2 seed behind the Jacks (who lost their FBS game). MSU who's only loss was to a very good Oregon State was seeded 4th behind NDSU who had lost an FCS game to SDSU. Further the day the seedings were decided MSU had beat the brakes off of a top 10 UM team to finish undefeated vs the FCS. A 10-2 SDSU would be seeded above a 10-2 MSU based on the way the committee has done it in the past and that was without a head to head. Look at last season. Cats were undefeated with an FBS win and the early release had NDSU seeded above them even though the Bison had one less win due to their loss against CU. Cats didn't get the #1 till the Bison lost to USD despite having a better resume all year.

[Helcat72]

I believe we have a better SOS than NDSU. Mostly because of Oregon and SDSU. Their only counter to Oregon is probably SIU or UND.

[hilinegrizfan]

FYI Griz are going to destroy the cats in Missoula, so include that in your "path"

[VimSince03]

FYI Griz are going to destroy the cats in Missoula, so include that in your "path"

[GoldstoneCat]

I disagree. If SDSU loses twice and we win out, we would absolutely jump them in the seeds.

Wrong. The head to head would give the nod to the Jacks all day. NO WAY a 10-2 SDSU is ranked below a 10-2 MSU.

I don't agree. 2 fcs losses vs. the big sky auto bid with the #2 SOS

[PortlandCat90]

I'm going to go out on a limb and pontificate that Tarleton State will be disappointed in their seeding.

[WalkOn79]

I disagree. If SDSU loses twice and we win out, we would absolutely jump them in the seeds.

Wrong. The head to head would give the nod to the Jacks all day. NO WAY a 10-2 SDSU is ranked below a 10-2 MSU.

Wrong. 10-1 MSU > 10-2 SDSU. The committee only counts FBS games if you win them.

This all day!

[WalkOn79]

I disagree. If SDSU loses twice and we win out, we would absolutely jump them in the seeds.

Wrong. The head to head would give the nod to the Jacks all day. NO WAY a 10-2 SDSU is ranked below a 10-2 MSU.

Wrong. 10-1 MSU > 10-2 SDSU. The committee only counts FBS games if you win them.

You beat me to it. I agree, 2 FCS losses should put SDSU behind the 1 FCS loss Cats. Will it? who knows.

The teams would be in the same tier for seeds and the number 1 thing they would consider is head to head. It would trump everything else. If you are saying they would ignore that because of 1 extra loss you are mistaken.

Dude, no way a 10-2 FCS SDSU would be seeded higher than a 10-1 cat team. What are you smoking?

[Prodigal Cat]

I disagree. If SDSU loses twice and we win out, we would absolutely jump them in the seeds.

Wrong. The head to head would give the nod to the Jacks all day. NO WAY a 10-2 SDSU is ranked below a 10-2 MSU.

Wrong. 10-1 MSU > 10-2 SDSU. The committee only counts FBS games if you win them.

You beat me to it. I agree, 2 FCS losses should put SDSU behind the 1 FCS loss Cats. Will it? who knows.

The teams would be in the same tier for seeds and the number 1 thing they would consider is head to head. It would trump everything else. If you are saying they would ignore that because of 1 extra loss you are mistaken.

Dude, no way a 10-2 FCS SDSU would be seeded higher than a 10-1 cat team. What are you smoking?

a Cat team with ZERO FCS losses was seeded behind a NDSU team with one FCS loss in '22. It has actually happened. I don't smoke.

[coloradocat]

I disagree. If SDSU loses twice and we win out, we would absolutely jump them in the seeds.

Wrong. The head to head would give the nod to the Jacks all day. NO WAY a 10-2 SDSU is ranked below a 10-2 MSU.

Wrong. 10-1 MSU > 10-2 SDSU. The committee only counts FBS games if you win them.

You beat me to it. I agree, 2 FCS losses should put SDSU behind the 1 FCS loss Cats. Will it? who knows.

The teams would be in the same tier for seeds and the number 1 thing they would consider is head to head. It would trump everything else. If you are saying they would ignore that because of 1 extra loss you are mistaken.

At the end of the season NDSU, SDSU, MSU, the griz, and Tarleton (if they make it undefeated) will be in the same tier. If one of those teams has the only loss outside the tier (which SDSU would if they lose 2 games) they would drop to the bottom of the tier.

[coloradocat]

I disagree. If SDSU loses twice and we win out, we would absolutely jump them in the seeds.

Wrong. The head to head would give the nod to the Jacks all day. NO WAY a 10-2 SDSU is ranked below a 10-2 MSU.

Wrong. 10-1 MSU > 10-2 SDSU. The committee only counts FBS games if you win them.

You beat me to it. I agree, 2 FCS losses should put SDSU behind the 1 FCS loss Cats. Will it? who knows.

The teams would be in the same tier for seeds and the number 1 thing they would consider is head to head. It would trump everything else. If you are saying they would ignore that because of 1 extra loss you are mistaken.

Dude, no way a 10-2 FCS SDSU would be seeded higher than a 10-1 cat team. What are you smoking?

a Cat team with ZERO FCS losses was seeded behind a NDSU team with one FCS loss in '22. It has actually happened. I don't smoke.

We are in a different place as a program in '25 compared to '22. We were seeded below NDSU for the same reason Sac State was the year it happened to them. The committee is going to favor a proven commodity over an up and coming team. It's why Tarleton is a long shot for the 2 seed no matter how things play out around them. We're no longer unproven (don't get me started on the 2021 playoff run...).

At the end of the day it probably doesn't matter because SDSU is very unlikely to lose to anyone besides NDSU (and vice versa).

[Prodigal Cat]

I disagree. If SDSU loses twice and we win out, we would absolutely jump them in the seeds.

Wrong. The head to head would give the nod to the Jacks all day. NO WAY a 10-2 SDSU is ranked below a 10-2 MSU.

Wrong. 10-1 MSU > 10-2 SDSU. The committee only counts FBS games if you win them.

You beat me to it. I agree, 2 FCS losses should put SDSU behind the 1 FCS loss Cats. Will it? who knows.

The teams would be in the same tier for seeds and the number 1 thing they would consider is head to head. It would trump everything else. If you are saying they would ignore that because of 1 extra loss you are mistaken.

Dude, no way a 10-2 FCS SDSU would be seeded higher than a 10-1 cat team. What are you smoking?

a Cat team with ZERO FCS losses was seeded behind a NDSU team with one FCS loss in '22. It has actually happened. I don't smoke.

We are in a different place as a program in '25 compared to '22. We were seeded below NDSU for the same reason Sac State was the year it happened to them. The committee is going to favor a proven commodity over an up and coming team. It's why Tarleton is a long shot for the 2 seed no matter how things play out around them. We're no longer unproven (don't get me started on the 2021 playoff run...).

At the end of the day it probably doesn't matter because SDSU is very unlikely to lose to anyone besides NDSU (and vice versa).

And SDSU isn’t a proven commodity? Come on.

[Prodigal Cat]

I disagree. If SDSU loses twice and we win out, we would absolutely jump them in the seeds.

Wrong. The head to head would give the nod to the Jacks all day. NO WAY a 10-2 SDSU is ranked below a 10-2 MSU.

Wrong. 10-1 MSU > 10-2 SDSU. The committee only counts FBS games if you win them.

You beat me to it. I agree, 2 FCS losses should put SDSU behind the 1 FCS loss Cats. Will it? who knows.

The teams would be in the same tier for seeds and the number 1 thing they would consider is head to head. It would trump everything else. If you are saying they would ignore that because of 1 extra loss you are mistaken.

At the end of the season NDSU, SDSU, MSU, the griz, and Tarleton (if they make it undefeated) will be in the same tier. If one of those teams has the only loss outside the tier (which SDSU would if they lose 2 games) they would drop to the bottom of the tier.

I’m kinda surprised by how many posters here are convinced that the committee is going to ignore a loss on the field when it comes to seeding.

[coloradocat]

I disagree. If SDSU loses twice and we win out, we would absolutely jump them in the seeds.

Wrong. The head to head would give the nod to the Jacks all day. NO WAY a 10-2 SDSU is ranked below a 10-2 MSU.

Wrong. 10-1 MSU > 10-2 SDSU. The committee only counts FBS games if you win them.

You beat me to it. I agree, 2 FCS losses should put SDSU behind the 1 FCS loss Cats. Will it? who knows.

The teams would be in the same tier for seeds and the number 1 thing they would consider is head to head. It would trump everything else. If you are saying they would ignore that because of 1 extra loss you are mistaken.

Dude, no way a 10-2 FCS SDSU would be seeded higher than a 10-1 cat team. What are you smoking?

a Cat team with ZERO FCS losses was seeded behind a NDSU team with one FCS loss in '22. It has actually happened. I don't smoke.

We are in a different place as a program in '25 compared to '22. We were seeded below NDSU for the same reason Sac State was the year it happened to them. The committee is going to favor a proven commodity over an up and coming team. It's why Tarleton is a long shot for the 2 seed no matter how things play out around them. We're no longer unproven (don't get me started on the 2021 playoff run...).

At the end of the day it probably doesn't matter because SDSU is very unlikely to lose to anyone besides NDSU (and vice versa).

And SDSU isn’t a proven commodity? Come on.

Yep, that's what I said. Go ahead and bold it in my comment so everyone can see it.