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Re: The happy, the sad, the unattractive

Post by Helcat72 » Wed Sep 17, 2025 10:43 am

tetoncat wrote:
Mon Sep 15, 2025 3:01 pm
technoCat wrote:
Mon Sep 15, 2025 8:48 am
TomCat88 wrote:
Mon Sep 15, 2025 6:10 am
If someone doesn't do a Good-Bad-Ugly by Sunday night every week, I going to embarrass myself like this. Please help me.

Happy:
Lamson's accuracy. I don't care who you're playing 26- of 29 is :D
Three drives post-INT. Pure perfection. 85 yards in 1:15; opening drive of 2nd half; third one with Jones 25-yard run, then best pass of the day from Lamson to Taco in the bucket, then two Davis bursts to house. :D
Defense didn't allow SD past MSU 42 until backups started coming in. :D
Davis getting 10 ypc. :D
Special teams had no miscues. :) (of course this should be the case every game).

Sad: first half run game (see Vigen's comments) :(

Unattractive: No "the good, the bad and the ugly" thread. :penalty:
No one can question Lamson's accuracy but I might put his shot selection(or maybe the playcall itself) in bad because he had a couple WIDE open receivers for big shots and he just doesn't seem to see them or anticipate it pre-snap. That throw to Taco was into triple coverage and King had half a field to himself on the other side. Hopefully a bit of film study will clean that up.
He tends to lock onto Taco. Plays where he isn't primary he seems to go thru reads more. He did mention in interview he missed King for td. Getting that stuff an film should help him grow
He knows that Taco will catch it if he gets it close to him...King not so much. Not that the play mentioned in this post wasn't a true miss on the part of Lamson, but after three games one can see, if Taco is one of his reads, he takes it. Maybe if King makes a couple of difficult catches his mind set will change.


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Re: The happy, the sad, the unattractive

Post by coloradocat » Wed Sep 17, 2025 10:47 am

Helcat72 wrote:
Wed Sep 17, 2025 10:43 am
tetoncat wrote:
Mon Sep 15, 2025 3:01 pm
technoCat wrote:
Mon Sep 15, 2025 8:48 am
TomCat88 wrote:
Mon Sep 15, 2025 6:10 am
If someone doesn't do a Good-Bad-Ugly by Sunday night every week, I going to embarrass myself like this. Please help me.

Happy:
Lamson's accuracy. I don't care who you're playing 26- of 29 is :D
Three drives post-INT. Pure perfection. 85 yards in 1:15; opening drive of 2nd half; third one with Jones 25-yard run, then best pass of the day from Lamson to Taco in the bucket, then two Davis bursts to house. :D
Defense didn't allow SD past MSU 42 until backups started coming in. :D
Davis getting 10 ypc. :D
Special teams had no miscues. :) (of course this should be the case every game).

Sad: first half run game (see Vigen's comments) :(

Unattractive: No "the good, the bad and the ugly" thread. :penalty:
No one can question Lamson's accuracy but I might put his shot selection(or maybe the playcall itself) in bad because he had a couple WIDE open receivers for big shots and he just doesn't seem to see them or anticipate it pre-snap. That throw to Taco was into triple coverage and King had half a field to himself on the other side. Hopefully a bit of film study will clean that up.
He tends to lock onto Taco. Plays where he isn't primary he seems to go thru reads more. He did mention in interview he missed King for td. Getting that stuff an film should help him grow
He knows that Taco will catch it if he gets it close to him...King not so much. Not that the play mentioned in this post wasn't a true miss on the part of Lamson, but after three games one can see, if Taco is one of his reads, he takes it. Maybe if King makes a couple of difficult catches his mind set will change.
King also has a history of dropping passes. I was very excited about that not showing up on Saturday.

It does kind of seem like Lamson will go through his progression until he gets to Taco. So if Taco is his first read he's also his last. Probably just a matter of time before he gets fully comfortable with the entire offense and all the weapons.


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Re: The happy, the sad, the unattractive

Post by BelligerentBobcat » Wed Sep 17, 2025 12:32 pm

coloradocat wrote:
Wed Sep 17, 2025 10:47 am
Helcat72 wrote:
Wed Sep 17, 2025 10:43 am
tetoncat wrote:
Mon Sep 15, 2025 3:01 pm
technoCat wrote:
Mon Sep 15, 2025 8:48 am
TomCat88 wrote:
Mon Sep 15, 2025 6:10 am
If someone doesn't do a Good-Bad-Ugly by Sunday night every week, I going to embarrass myself like this. Please help me.

Happy:
Lamson's accuracy. I don't care who you're playing 26- of 29 is :D
Three drives post-INT. Pure perfection. 85 yards in 1:15; opening drive of 2nd half; third one with Jones 25-yard run, then best pass of the day from Lamson to Taco in the bucket, then two Davis bursts to house. :D
Defense didn't allow SD past MSU 42 until backups started coming in. :D
Davis getting 10 ypc. :D
Special teams had no miscues. :) (of course this should be the case every game).

Sad: first half run game (see Vigen's comments) :(

Unattractive: No "the good, the bad and the ugly" thread. :penalty:
No one can question Lamson's accuracy but I might put his shot selection(or maybe the playcall itself) in bad because he had a couple WIDE open receivers for big shots and he just doesn't seem to see them or anticipate it pre-snap. That throw to Taco was into triple coverage and King had half a field to himself on the other side. Hopefully a bit of film study will clean that up.
He tends to lock onto Taco. Plays where he isn't primary he seems to go thru reads more. He did mention in interview he missed King for td. Getting that stuff an film should help him grow
He knows that Taco will catch it if he gets it close to him...King not so much. Not that the play mentioned in this post wasn't a true miss on the part of Lamson, but after three games one can see, if Taco is one of his reads, he takes it. Maybe if King makes a couple of difficult catches his mind set will change.
King also has a history of dropping passes. I was very excited about that not showing up on Saturday.

It does kind of seem like Lamson will go through his progression until he gets to Taco. So if Taco is his first read he's also his last. Probably just a matter of time before he gets fully comfortable with the entire offense and all the weapons.
I’m not trying to be a dick, but how do you know what his progressions are?



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Re: The happy, the sad, the unattractive

Post by coloradocat » Wed Sep 17, 2025 1:21 pm

BelligerentBobcat wrote:
Wed Sep 17, 2025 12:32 pm
coloradocat wrote:
Wed Sep 17, 2025 10:47 am
Helcat72 wrote:
Wed Sep 17, 2025 10:43 am
tetoncat wrote:
Mon Sep 15, 2025 3:01 pm
technoCat wrote:
Mon Sep 15, 2025 8:48 am
TomCat88 wrote:
Mon Sep 15, 2025 6:10 am
If someone doesn't do a Good-Bad-Ugly by Sunday night every week, I going to embarrass myself like this. Please help me.

Happy:
Lamson's accuracy. I don't care who you're playing 26- of 29 is :D
Three drives post-INT. Pure perfection. 85 yards in 1:15; opening drive of 2nd half; third one with Jones 25-yard run, then best pass of the day from Lamson to Taco in the bucket, then two Davis bursts to house. :D
Defense didn't allow SD past MSU 42 until backups started coming in. :D
Davis getting 10 ypc. :D
Special teams had no miscues. :) (of course this should be the case every game).

Sad: first half run game (see Vigen's comments) :(

Unattractive: No "the good, the bad and the ugly" thread. :penalty:
No one can question Lamson's accuracy but I might put his shot selection(or maybe the playcall itself) in bad because he had a couple WIDE open receivers for big shots and he just doesn't seem to see them or anticipate it pre-snap. That throw to Taco was into triple coverage and King had half a field to himself on the other side. Hopefully a bit of film study will clean that up.
He tends to lock onto Taco. Plays where he isn't primary he seems to go thru reads more. He did mention in interview he missed King for td. Getting that stuff an film should help him grow
He knows that Taco will catch it if he gets it close to him...King not so much. Not that the play mentioned in this post wasn't a true miss on the part of Lamson, but after three games one can see, if Taco is one of his reads, he takes it. Maybe if King makes a couple of difficult catches his mind set will change.
King also has a history of dropping passes. I was very excited about that not showing up on Saturday.

It does kind of seem like Lamson will go through his progression until he gets to Taco. So if Taco is his first read he's also his last. Probably just a matter of time before he gets fully comfortable with the entire offense and all the weapons.
I’m not trying to be a dick, but how do you know what his progressions are?
I haven't paid that much attention but I noticed multiple times where he would either a) look to multiple receivers on a play and then throw, often to Taco, or b) he would wait for a guy to get to a spot (not necessarily open) and throw it to him even if it wasn't the best or even a good option. Neither of these were one-offs. I definitely don't know what his progressions are but I assume we don't have a "throw it to Taco in triple coverage and don't bother looking anywhere else" play. I'm on the casual, or at least non-technical, end of the fan spectrum but some things even I can pick up on.


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Re: The happy, the sad, the unattractive

Post by WalkOn79 » Wed Sep 17, 2025 3:05 pm

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Mon Sep 15, 2025 8:05 am
Good: the defense continues to shine, especially the run D. SD had negative rushing yards at the half thanks to the Dowler sack.
Taco should have a fantastic year in conference play.

Bad: the O line is still searching for some continuity, especially in the running game.

Ugly: decades of game attendance and I still have not won the 50 50.
This! $20 a game for at least 15 years! the track team has made a couple thousand off of me at least!


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Re: The happy, the sad, the unattractive

Post by TomCat88 » Wed Sep 17, 2025 3:40 pm

coloradocat wrote:
Wed Sep 17, 2025 1:21 pm
BelligerentBobcat wrote:
Wed Sep 17, 2025 12:32 pm
coloradocat wrote:
Wed Sep 17, 2025 10:47 am
Helcat72 wrote:
Wed Sep 17, 2025 10:43 am
tetoncat wrote:
Mon Sep 15, 2025 3:01 pm
technoCat wrote:
Mon Sep 15, 2025 8:48 am
TomCat88 wrote:
Mon Sep 15, 2025 6:10 am
If someone doesn't do a Good-Bad-Ugly by Sunday night every week, I going to embarrass myself like this. Please help me.

Happy:
Lamson's accuracy. I don't care who you're playing 26- of 29 is :D
Three drives post-INT. Pure perfection. 85 yards in 1:15; opening drive of 2nd half; third one with Jones 25-yard run, then best pass of the day from Lamson to Taco in the bucket, then two Davis bursts to house. :D
Defense didn't allow SD past MSU 42 until backups started coming in. :D
Davis getting 10 ypc. :D
Special teams had no miscues. :) (of course this should be the case every game).

Sad: first half run game (see Vigen's comments) :(

Unattractive: No "the good, the bad and the ugly" thread. :penalty:
No one can question Lamson's accuracy but I might put his shot selection(or maybe the playcall itself) in bad because he had a couple WIDE open receivers for big shots and he just doesn't seem to see them or anticipate it pre-snap. That throw to Taco was into triple coverage and King had half a field to himself on the other side. Hopefully a bit of film study will clean that up.
He tends to lock onto Taco. Plays where he isn't primary he seems to go thru reads more. He did mention in interview he missed King for td. Getting that stuff an film should help him grow
He knows that Taco will catch it if he gets it close to him...King not so much. Not that the play mentioned in this post wasn't a true miss on the part of Lamson, but after three games one can see, if Taco is one of his reads, he takes it. Maybe if King makes a couple of difficult catches his mind set will change.
King also has a history of dropping passes. I was very excited about that not showing up on Saturday.

It does kind of seem like Lamson will go through his progression until he gets to Taco. So if Taco is his first read he's also his last. Probably just a matter of time before he gets fully comfortable with the entire offense and all the weapons.
I’m not trying to be a dick, but how do you know what his progressions are?
I haven't paid that much attention but I noticed multiple times where he would either a) look to multiple receivers on a play and then throw, often to Taco, or b) he would wait for a guy to get to a spot (not necessarily open) and throw it to him even if it wasn't the best or even a good option. Neither of these were one-offs. I definitely don't know what his progressions are but I assume we don't have a "throw it to Taco in triple coverage and don't bother looking anywhere else" play. I'm on the casual, or at least non-technical, end of the fan spectrum but some things even I can pick up on.
According to Taco, King was running a route that was supposed to get Taco open. That didn't happen and King actually got open. So, it's kind of excusable that a QB would be locked onto a receiver on that kind of play. Everyone (Taco, Lamson, Vigen, Sterbick) was aware that King got open. It happens quite often. 2022 Cat-Griz Mellott had Thomas open down the seam for what would've been a long TD, but he went to someone on the sideline for a 20-yard gain instead. I'm just using that example because being Cat-Griz it stuck in my head, but I see that happen a lot. Happens in the NFL too.

The silver lining of the play last Saturday is it was a difficult pass to make and Lamson showed he could make it. It covered 32 yards and the pass was probably about 45 yards in the air.


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