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Re: Humphrey-Jones Duo and the Rushing Attack

Post by tetoncat » Mon Sep 09, 2024 9:22 am

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Both Humphrey and Jones are doing great, but seriously, I've never seen two running backs not get touched on so many long runs...like not touched at all. I suppose we will eventually run into a defense who knows how to defend which will mean needing Davis' physical presence in between the tackles. Putting Wehr back in at guard was genius. I think we should keep him there.
This is just an observation. Those hole are huge at line and their speed and vision gets them thru LB or safety. I noticed with White when he played with 1st unit. A couple simar holes. He doesn't have same burst so got 6 or 7 yds but couldn't completely get to open field. Super solid back but you can see the separation.


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Re: Humphrey-Jones Duo and the Rushing Attack

Post by technoCat » Mon Sep 09, 2024 9:25 am

tetoncat wrote:
Mon Sep 09, 2024 9:22 am
BelgradeBobcat wrote:
Sun Sep 08, 2024 8:18 pm
Both Humphrey and Jones are doing great, but seriously, I've never seen two running backs not get touched on so many long runs...like not touched at all. I suppose we will eventually run into a defense who knows how to defend which will mean needing Davis' physical presence in between the tackles. Putting Wehr back in at guard was genius. I think we should keep him there.
This is just an observation. Those hole are huge at line and their speed and vision gets them thru LB or safety. I noticed with White when he played with 1st unit. A couple simar holes. He doesn't have same burst so got 6 or 7 yds but couldn't completely get to open field. Super solid back but you can see the separation.
White was a shoestring tackle from breaking quite a few times. Does make you wonder if Jones/Humphrey would have busted those.


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Re: Humphrey-Jones Duo and the Rushing Attack

Post by MSU01 » Mon Sep 09, 2024 9:27 am

tetoncat wrote:
Mon Sep 09, 2024 9:22 am
BelgradeBobcat wrote:
Sun Sep 08, 2024 8:18 pm
Both Humphrey and Jones are doing great, but seriously, I've never seen two running backs not get touched on so many long runs...like not touched at all. I suppose we will eventually run into a defense who knows how to defend which will mean needing Davis' physical presence in between the tackles. Putting Wehr back in at guard was genius. I think we should keep him there.
This is just an observation. Those hole are huge at line and their speed and vision gets them thru LB or safety. I noticed with White when he played with 1st unit. A couple simar holes. He doesn't have same burst so got 6 or 7 yds but couldn't completely get to open field. Super solid back but you can see the separation.
I noticed the same thing. And White would undoubtedly be the starter for maybe 80 - 90% of FCS schools.



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Re: Humphrey-Jones Duo and the Rushing Attack

Post by wbtfg » Mon Sep 09, 2024 9:34 am

VimSince03 wrote:
Sun Sep 08, 2024 5:57 pm
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Sun Sep 08, 2024 5:50 pm
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VimSince03 wrote:
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The MSU rushing attack just continues to somehow get better every season.... Even with a handful of backup OL still playing... its pretty unbelievable. That first half they had like 240 yards rushing at a clip of 18 yards per rush..... hahahaha. sounds like a video game.

The Duo of Scottre Humphrey and Adam Jones is so much fun to watch, and such a lethal duo! What is so crazy though, is that the presumed #1 option (julius davis) is not even playing yet...

Anyone know what the injury status is with Davis? how long will he be out? And whenever Davis does come back.... how the heck do you start him over these two guys at this point???? The RB depth is unreal.

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Again I really think Davis is our short yardage back but also don't sleep on his vision between the tackles. It's a wealth of talent.

I'm hearing late October on Davis and Perkins for what its worth.
Perk still has his redshirt available correct? If he really is late October he could play the last 4 games and playoffs and play next season right?
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I thought Perkins used his redshirt in 2019. Would be great if he was granted another year though.
COVID Year though...
I might be misunderstanding the redshirt/covid rules, but I don't think Perk will have the option for another year.

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Re: Humphrey-Jones Duo and the Rushing Attack

Post by VimSince03 » Mon Sep 09, 2024 9:37 am

wbtfg wrote:
Mon Sep 09, 2024 9:34 am
VimSince03 wrote:
Sun Sep 08, 2024 5:57 pm
LoggerCat wrote:
Sun Sep 08, 2024 5:50 pm
VimSince03 wrote:
Sun Sep 08, 2024 5:14 pm
Prodigal Cat wrote:
Sun Sep 08, 2024 5:10 pm
VimSince03 wrote:
Sun Sep 08, 2024 4:59 pm
mslacatfan wrote:
Sun Sep 08, 2024 4:53 pm
The MSU rushing attack just continues to somehow get better every season.... Even with a handful of backup OL still playing... its pretty unbelievable. That first half they had like 240 yards rushing at a clip of 18 yards per rush..... hahahaha. sounds like a video game.

The Duo of Scottre Humphrey and Adam Jones is so much fun to watch, and such a lethal duo! What is so crazy though, is that the presumed #1 option (julius davis) is not even playing yet...

Anyone know what the injury status is with Davis? how long will he be out? And whenever Davis does come back.... how the heck do you start him over these two guys at this point???? The RB depth is unreal.

Go Cats. \:D/
Again I really think Davis is our short yardage back but also don't sleep on his vision between the tackles. It's a wealth of talent.

I'm hearing late October on Davis and Perkins for what its worth.
Perk still has his redshirt available correct? If he really is late October he could play the last 4 games and playoffs and play next season right?
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I thought Perkins used his redshirt in 2019. Would be great if he was granted another year though.
COVID Year though...
I might be misunderstanding the redshirt/covid rules, but I don't think Perk will have the option for another year.

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2020-Covid
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2024 - 6th year in the program.
My understanding is you basically get six years to participate in the program when you don't include the COVID year. Technically, I think he could play this year and still get the option of coming back for one more year. HOWEVER, would love if someone told me this is inaccurate so I can move on from COVID year speculation every year.

The year is 2040. MSU has a strong senior class. We're having a great year but one of our stars gets hurt. One poster suddenly states: "Doesn't he have a COVID year left?"


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Re: Humphrey-Jones Duo and the Rushing Attack

Post by MSU01 » Mon Sep 09, 2024 9:47 am

wbtfg wrote:
Mon Sep 09, 2024 9:34 am
I might be misunderstanding the redshirt/covid rules, but I don't think Perk will have the option for another year.

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You are correct, this is Justus' final year of normal eligibility. The only way he could potentially come back for a 7th year would be by getting a medical redshirt for the 2024 season. This would require a season-ending injury however, which doesn't appear to be the case here.



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Re: Humphrey-Jones Duo and the Rushing Attack

Post by wbtfg » Mon Sep 09, 2024 10:38 am

MSU01 wrote:
Mon Sep 09, 2024 9:47 am
wbtfg wrote:
Mon Sep 09, 2024 9:34 am
I might be misunderstanding the redshirt/covid rules, but I don't think Perk will have the option for another year.

2019-Redshirt
2020-Covid
2021-Played
2022-Played
2023-Played
2024 - 6th year in the program.
You are correct, this is Justus' final year of normal eligibility. The only way he could potentially come back for a 7th year would be by getting a medical redshirt for the 2024 season. This would require a season-ending injury however, which doesn't appear to be the case here.
I was talking Perk, but it looks like they are both probably in the same boat.


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Re: Humphrey-Jones Duo and the Rushing Attack

Post by MSU01 » Mon Sep 09, 2024 10:46 am

wbtfg wrote:
Mon Sep 09, 2024 10:38 am
MSU01 wrote:
Mon Sep 09, 2024 9:47 am
wbtfg wrote:
Mon Sep 09, 2024 9:34 am
I might be misunderstanding the redshirt/covid rules, but I don't think Perk will have the option for another year.

2019-Redshirt
2020-Covid
2021-Played
2022-Played
2023-Played
2024 - 6th year in the program.
You are correct, this is Justus' final year of normal eligibility. The only way he could potentially come back for a 7th year would be by getting a medical redshirt for the 2024 season. This would require a season-ending injury however, which doesn't appear to be the case here.
I was talking Perk, but it looks like they are both probably in the same boat.
Wait, who else would "Perk" refer to other than Justus Perkins? Aside from his two brothers of course who aren't seniors yet.



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Re: Humphrey-Jones Duo and the Rushing Attack

Post by wbtfg » Mon Sep 09, 2024 10:52 am

MSU01 wrote:
Mon Sep 09, 2024 10:46 am
wbtfg wrote:
Mon Sep 09, 2024 10:38 am
MSU01 wrote:
Mon Sep 09, 2024 9:47 am
wbtfg wrote:
Mon Sep 09, 2024 9:34 am
I might be misunderstanding the redshirt/covid rules, but I don't think Perk will have the option for another year.

2019-Redshirt
2020-Covid
2021-Played
2022-Played
2023-Played
2024 - 6th year in the program.
You are correct, this is Justus' final year of normal eligibility. The only way he could potentially come back for a 7th year would be by getting a medical redshirt for the 2024 season. This would require a season-ending injury however, which doesn't appear to be the case here.
I was talking Perk, but it looks like they are both probably in the same boat.
Wait, who else would "Perk" refer to other than Justus Perkins? Aside from his two brothers of course who aren't seniors yet.
Sheesh. My eyes read Julius.

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Re: Humphrey-Jones Duo and the Rushing Attack

Post by RockyBearCat » Mon Sep 09, 2024 11:11 am

grizzh8r wrote:
Sun Sep 08, 2024 10:13 pm
TomCat88 wrote:
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Top 3 in BSC ypc (20+ carries):
Humphrey 43-351 8.2
Jones 34-296 8.7
Mellott 21-174 8.3

And…
White 25-148 5.9
Playing in Week Zero Augments the numbers a bit. That being said - and without looking at ANY other BSC RB yardage totals thru week 2 - i would expect Jones and Humphrey to still be in the top 5 after next week's BSC games are in the books
An extra week but this is Yards/Carry. A longer stretch, most would think it would settle down some...



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Re: Humphrey-Jones Duo and the Rushing Attack

Post by Catsrgrood » Mon Sep 09, 2024 3:14 pm

MSU01 wrote:
Mon Sep 09, 2024 9:47 am
wbtfg wrote:
Mon Sep 09, 2024 9:34 am
I might be misunderstanding the redshirt/covid rules, but I don't think Perk will have the option for another year.

2019-Redshirt
2020-Covid
2021-Played
2022-Played
2023-Played
2024 - 6th year in the program.
You are correct, this is Justus' final year of normal eligibility. The only way he could potentially come back for a 7th year would be by getting a medical redshirt for the 2024 season. This would require a season-ending injury however, which doesn't appear to be the case here.
Can’t wait until the Covid year is a thing of the past.

Easiest way to think about it is that 2020 simply didn’t count towards anything. The Cats didn’t play any games that year so none of our players got any additional games that year.

If a kid came into the program as a true freshman in 2020, he is still a true freshman(in football terms) in 2021. He would still have 5 years to play 4 starting in 2021, even though he was there in 2020. Effectively giving him 6 years in the program.

Same thing with a player that may have been a 5th year senior in 2020. Say he’s already used a redshirt year and 3 playing years and 2020 would have been his 5th year. 2020 doesn’t count, so he can now come back and play in 2021 as a senior and get a 6th year in the program.

The Covid year isn’t a year that players can “use” at some point during their career. Its simply that 2020 didn’t count against them in their eligibility.



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Re: Humphrey-Jones Duo and the Rushing Attack

Post by TomCat88 » Mon Sep 09, 2024 3:41 pm

RockyBearCat wrote:
Mon Sep 09, 2024 11:11 am
grizzh8r wrote:
Sun Sep 08, 2024 10:13 pm
TomCat88 wrote:
Sun Sep 08, 2024 6:20 pm
Top 3 in BSC ypc (20+ carries):
Humphrey 43-351 8.2
Jones 34-296 8.7
Mellott 21-174 8.3

And…
White 25-148 5.9
Playing in Week Zero Augments the numbers a bit. That being said - and without looking at ANY other BSC RB yardage totals thru week 2 - i would expect Jones and Humphrey to still be in the top 5 after next week's BSC games are in the books
An extra week but this is Yards/Carry. A longer stretch, most would think it would settle down some...
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Re: Humphrey-Jones Duo and the Rushing Attack

Post by BelgradeBobcat » Mon Sep 09, 2024 6:11 pm

technoCat wrote:
Mon Sep 09, 2024 9:25 am
tetoncat wrote:
Mon Sep 09, 2024 9:22 am
BelgradeBobcat wrote:
Sun Sep 08, 2024 8:18 pm
Both Humphrey and Jones are doing great, but seriously, I've never seen two running backs not get touched on so many long runs...like not touched at all. I suppose we will eventually run into a defense who knows how to defend which will mean needing Davis' physical presence in between the tackles. Putting Wehr back in at guard was genius. I think we should keep him there.
This is just an observation. Those hole are huge at line and their speed and vision gets them thru LB or safety. I noticed with White when he played with 1st unit. A couple simar holes. He doesn't have same burst so got 6 or 7 yds but couldn't completely get to open field. Super solid back but you can see the separation.
White was a shoestring tackle from breaking quite a few times. Does make you wonder if Jones/Humphrey would have busted those.
I think the big development with Humphrey is his acquired skill of waiting a split second for the hole to open. Last season he got the ball and went 100 mph right away and that didn't always work. Jones on the other hand, must just be a natural. He also blocks well and catches passes-the complete package. Did anybody expect that kid to be this good coming out of high school?



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Regarding eligibility, that Miami player is playing in his NINTH season this year.


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Re: Humphrey-Jones Duo and the Rushing Attack

Post by grizzh8r » Mon Sep 09, 2024 7:08 pm

tetoncat wrote:
Mon Sep 09, 2024 9:18 am
grizzh8r wrote:
Sun Sep 08, 2024 10:13 pm
TomCat88 wrote:
Sun Sep 08, 2024 6:20 pm
Top 3 in BSC ypc (20+ carries):
Humphrey 43-351 8.2
Jones 34-296 8.7
Mellott 21-174 8.3

And…
White 25-148 5.9
Playing in Week Zero Augments the numbers a bit. That being said - and without looking at ANY other BSC RB yardage totals thru week 2 - i would expect Jones and Humphrey to still be in the top 5 after next week's BSC games are in the books
Emphasis here was Yards Per Carry so they have done it thru 3 games vs others 2. That is even more impressive.
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Re: Humphrey-Jones Duo and the Rushing Attack

Post by ghobs95 » Tue Sep 10, 2024 8:45 am

catatac wrote:
Mon Sep 09, 2024 6:21 pm
Regarding eligibility, that Miami player is playing in his NINTH season this year.
I actually went to high school with Cam (freshman when I was a senior), and I graduated from MSU over 7 years ago :lol:



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Re: Humphrey-Jones Duo and the Rushing Attack

Post by kennethnoisewater » Tue Sep 10, 2024 10:13 am

ghobs95 wrote:
Tue Sep 10, 2024 8:45 am
catatac wrote:
Mon Sep 09, 2024 6:21 pm
Regarding eligibility, that Miami player is playing in his NINTH season this year.
I actually went to high school with Cam (freshman when I was a senior), and I graduated from MSU over 7 years ago :lol:
Shoot, he could have a son that's a high school stud and Miami wants to keep dad happy :wink:


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Re: Humphrey-Jones Duo and the Rushing Attack

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catatac wrote:
Mon Sep 09, 2024 6:21 pm
Regarding eligibility, that Miami player is playing in his NINTH season this year.
That's crazy. I know some of these guys want to hang on as long as they can, but that's a bit over the top. Time to step aside and let some young guy have the scholly and play too.


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