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Re: Quarters

Post by nanacat » Fri Dec 08, 2023 9:25 am

grizatwork wrote:
Thu Dec 07, 2023 9:45 pm
RickRund wrote:
Thu Dec 07, 2023 10:58 am
Over there one of the posters said we are being hit by the portal because somethings is wrong with the program. Can't remember if anyone agreed with them...
I would say it is the opposite. You are being hit hard in the portal because of what is right with your program. Good recruits who have been developed into great players. It sounds weird, but it is a nice problem to have. Kind of like going to a party with the prettiest girl.
It sucks but I think you may be right.



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Re: Quarters

Post by onceacat » Fri Dec 08, 2023 11:10 am

nanacat wrote:
Fri Dec 08, 2023 9:25 am
grizatwork wrote:
Thu Dec 07, 2023 9:45 pm
RickRund wrote:
Thu Dec 07, 2023 10:58 am
Over there one of the posters said we are being hit by the portal because somethings is wrong with the program. Can't remember if anyone agreed with them...
I would say it is the opposite. You are being hit hard in the portal because of what is right with your program. Good recruits who have been developed into great players. It sounds weird, but it is a nice problem to have. Kind of like going to a party with the prettiest girl.
It sucks but I think you may be right.
Agree with this. Its a lot like having good coaches like Freddy Banks & Kane Ione move up. If I'm a HS recruit thats sort of a tweener for FBS (too small , too slow, inexperienced, played on the wrong style team, etc) I might ride the bench at a top G5 or bottom P5 school.

But that talent may well get me on the field at MSU & let me transfer to a better program with more NIL in the future.

In the past, it was common for MSU to recruit 2 star players, let them redshirt, then play sparingly for 2 years, then be a starter in year 4/5.

The portal may well give MSU the chance to compete for (more) 3-star and 4-star recruits. MSU still gets them for 2 years (same as in the olden times) but then they can transfer on.

At least, thats the most positive way I can spin. it.



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Re: Quarters

Post by kennethnoisewater » Fri Dec 08, 2023 11:26 am

onceacat wrote:
Fri Dec 08, 2023 11:10 am
nanacat wrote:
Fri Dec 08, 2023 9:25 am
grizatwork wrote:
Thu Dec 07, 2023 9:45 pm
RickRund wrote:
Thu Dec 07, 2023 10:58 am
Over there one of the posters said we are being hit by the portal because somethings is wrong with the program. Can't remember if anyone agreed with them...
I would say it is the opposite. You are being hit hard in the portal because of what is right with your program. Good recruits who have been developed into great players. It sounds weird, but it is a nice problem to have. Kind of like going to a party with the prettiest girl.
It sucks but I think you may be right.
Agree with this. Its a lot like having good coaches like Freddy Banks & Kane Ione move up. If I'm a HS recruit thats sort of a tweener for FBS (too small , too slow, inexperienced, played on the wrong style team, etc) I might ride the bench at a top G5 or bottom P5 school.

But that talent may well get me on the field at MSU & let me transfer to a better program with more NIL in the future.

In the past, it was common for MSU to recruit 2 star players, let them redshirt, then play sparingly for 2 years, then be a starter in year 4/5.

The portal may well give MSU the chance to compete for (more) 3-star and 4-star recruits. MSU still gets them for 2 years (same as in the olden times) but then they can transfer on.

At least, thats the most positive way I can spin. it.
I agree, and I think the coaches are looking at the higher level guys as ones who can play right away. Because if they're not ready to play now, you're just going to develop them for someone else with no benefit to you. Don't even waste your time with those guys (the ones who aren't ready to play now but might be lured away later) unless you think you can just make them fall in love with Bozeman, MSU, and the program.

Just gotta change the way you do things. There's still the same number of guys playing football, theoretically. Water finds its level and hopefully MSU is active enough and attractive enough that we get the drop-downs displaced by the move-ups. Still sucks though...you'd love to have guys there 5 years that love their university and want to come back forever, give money someday, etc.


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Re: Quarters

Post by luckyirishguy25 » Fri Dec 08, 2023 8:11 pm

Furman just embarrassed the griz D by throw a slant against a blitzing D... what a f*cking concept... hope House take notes.



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Re: Quarters

Post by onceacat » Fri Dec 08, 2023 8:15 pm

kennethnoisewater wrote:
Fri Dec 08, 2023 11:26 am
onceacat wrote:
Fri Dec 08, 2023 11:10 am
nanacat wrote:
Fri Dec 08, 2023 9:25 am
grizatwork wrote:
Thu Dec 07, 2023 9:45 pm
RickRund wrote:
Thu Dec 07, 2023 10:58 am
Over there one of the posters said we are being hit by the portal because somethings is wrong with the program. Can't remember if anyone agreed with them...
I would say it is the opposite. You are being hit hard in the portal because of what is right with your program. Good recruits who have been developed into great players. It sounds weird, but it is a nice problem to have. Kind of like going to a party with the prettiest girl.
It sucks but I think you may be right.
Agree with this. Its a lot like having good coaches like Freddy Banks & Kane Ione move up. If I'm a HS recruit thats sort of a tweener for FBS (too small , too slow, inexperienced, played on the wrong style team, etc) I might ride the bench at a top G5 or bottom P5 school.

But that talent may well get me on the field at MSU & let me transfer to a better program with more NIL in the future.

In the past, it was common for MSU to recruit 2 star players, let them redshirt, then play sparingly for 2 years, then be a starter in year 4/5.

The portal may well give MSU the chance to compete for (more) 3-star and 4-star recruits. MSU still gets them for 2 years (same as in the olden times) but then they can transfer on.

At least, thats the most positive way I can spin. it.
I agree, and I think the coaches are looking at the higher level guys as ones who can play right away. Because if they're not ready to play now, you're just going to develop them for someone else with no benefit to you. Don't even waste your time with those guys (the ones who aren't ready to play now but might be lured away later) unless you think you can just make them fall in love with Bozeman, MSU, and the program.

Just gotta change the way you do things. There's still the same number of guys playing football, theoretically. Water finds its level and hopefully MSU is active enough and attractive enough that we get the drop-downs displaced by the move-ups. Still sucks though...you'd love to have guys there 5 years that love their university and want to come back forever, give money someday, etc.
I agree with everything except the development part. If a guy isnt ready to play on Day 1, its not as though he's going to have a bunch of tape to transfer until he starts. Seems like these are a lot of the Montana guys.

But when I think of guys like Ifanse or Omar...it was really great to have them while they were here. (Note: If Denarius McGhee or Lualy transferred as juniors, I might have different thoughts).



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Re: Quarters

Post by onceacat » Fri Dec 08, 2023 8:16 pm

luckyirishguy25 wrote:
Fri Dec 08, 2023 8:11 pm
Furman just embarrassed the griz D by throw a slant against a blitzing D... what a f*cking concept... hope House take notes.
And the Furman D looks like the 21 Cat D on the Griz opening possession.



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Re: Quarters

Post by 91catAlum » Fri Dec 08, 2023 8:49 pm

Surprisingly close so far in Missoula. Every time the griz score, Furman has answered.


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Re: Quarters

Post by Bocephus » Fri Dec 08, 2023 8:56 pm

Furman’s D is pretty decent.



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Re: Quarters

Post by 91catAlum » Fri Dec 08, 2023 9:01 pm

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Re: Quarters

Post by 91catAlum » Fri Dec 08, 2023 9:01 pm

Bocephus wrote:
Fri Dec 08, 2023 8:56 pm
Furman’s D is pretty decent.
They're stopping the RBs well but can't contain McDowell. He is killing them running it.


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Re: Quarters

Post by catscat » Fri Dec 08, 2023 9:09 pm

First one to 50 wins????


Can't make up my mind as to which is better - 55-21 or 48-14, but 34-11 will do, but 48-23 may be the best of all.

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Re: Quarters

Post by onceacat » Fri Dec 08, 2023 9:13 pm

Bocephus wrote:
Fri Dec 08, 2023 8:56 pm
Furman’s D is pretty decent.
Better D than MSU. Have a QB who can 1) pass and 2) read the blitz.

And UM can kick FGs.



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Re: Quarters

Post by CatBot » Fri Dec 08, 2023 9:13 pm

Watching one of these things without Marty is actually doable. Marty is horrific.



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Re: Quarters

Post by 91catAlum » Fri Dec 08, 2023 9:19 pm

Furman needs a stop here, badly.


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Re: Quarters

Post by 91catAlum » Fri Dec 08, 2023 9:19 pm

The griz RBs have 8 yards so far.
McDowell has 78 on 7 carries.


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Re: Quarters

Post by Augustus » Fri Dec 08, 2023 9:24 pm

91catAlum wrote:
Fri Dec 08, 2023 9:19 pm
Furman needs a stop here, badly.
They need a score. Going into half with the lead would just piss off Beavis.

Go Palladins!



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Re: Quarters

Post by BelligerentBobcat » Fri Dec 08, 2023 9:30 pm

It hurts how good Bergen is.



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Re: Quarters

Post by Mtcatfan » Fri Dec 08, 2023 9:35 pm

How did we lose Bergen to Missoula?



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Re: Quarters

Post by Bocephus » Fri Dec 08, 2023 9:41 pm

Mtcatfan wrote:
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How did we lose Bergen to Missoula?
Choate left.



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Re: Quarters

Post by 91catAlum » Fri Dec 08, 2023 9:52 pm

Furman needs a good offensive possession here.


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