The Official-Unofficial GOLD RUSH Game Thread - MSU vs Maine

[tetoncat]

Why was Maine's coach so mad that he got a 15 yard unsportsmanlike penalty after his team got a first down on a fumbled snap?

He Thought the ref should have reset the play clock. After un-piling everyone from the fumble, the clock ran down quite a bit and Maine was forced to take a timeout.

And he absolutely should have. They stopped the clock to set the ball and see if it was a first. The play clock never reset even though it was under 25 when the ball was finally set and ready for play again. The referee should have pumped the play clock once the ball was set and decision on the first down made, and he didn't. The Maine coach had every right to be heated and the referee should have recognized his mistake and eaten that flag.

I thought he made a coaching error by kicking FG with about 5 min left. Only made it 17 point game so they still had to score 3 more times. Then didn't onside, but threw it deep at end. I couldn't decide if he was trying to get back in ot or not.

[kwcat]

[kwcat]

Why was Maine's coach so mad that he got a 15 yard unsportsmanlike penalty after his team got a first down on a fumbled snap?

He Thought the ref should have reset the play clock. After un-piling everyone from the fumble, the clock ran down quite a bit and Maine was forced to take a timeout.

And he absolutely should have. They stopped the clock to set the ball and see if it was a first. The play clock never reset even though it was under 25 when the ball was finally set and ready for play again. The referee should have pumped the play clock once the ball was set and decision on the first down made, and he didn't. The Maine coach had every right to be heated and the referee should have recognized his mistake and eaten that flag.

I thought he made a coaching error by kicking FG with about 5 min left. Only made it 17 point game so they still had to score 3 more times. Then didn't onside, but threw it deep at end. I couldn't decide if he was trying to get back in ot or not.

The Maine coach knew the game was over. They were just trying to get meaningful reps without provoking the wrath of the cats!

[BobcatBuiltTexan]

I just want to point out that DPI on McMillan seemed like garbage from the stands. I thought it should’ve been a no call, but it was more of an OPI than anything. Not sure what it looked like on tv.

I feel it was a bad call. From watching it on TV he doesn't make contact before the ball gets there and he turns his head as he is playing through the hands of wr. Now to play devil's advocate....i can see where the ref throws that flag. when you are turned back to the ball and you block out the wr the refs automatically think you are running into them, they don't wait to see if there is a contact(they assume you don't have the ability or discipline to not make contact). Full speed it doesn't look like mcmillan turns his head, on the replay when you get a different angle you can see he does in fact turn his head. It was a bad call but based off everything that happened on that play its an understandable call.

[BobcatDel]

After the debacle of watching the telecast of the Utah Tech game last week… it really makes you appreciate Creighton/Gregorak and the broadcast this week. I was at the game but just watching the replay is enjoyable.

[kwcat]

https://goblackbears.com/news/2024/9/7/ ... state.aspx

They almost battled back!

[RICO CAT]

https://goblackbears.com/news/2024/9/7/ ... state.aspx

They almost battled back!

I saw that. Omitted a few details…..

[cat22[2010]]

Was I the only one hoping Rohan Jones would get a touchdown against his old team?

[KIX]

Not sure if this was talked about on another post but anyone know what the deal is with Bryce Grebe? Didn't see him play or on the bench.

[mslacatfan]

Not sure if this was talked about on another post but anyone know what the deal is with Bryce Grebe? Didn't see him play or on the bench.

pretty sure he was hurt in the Utah Tech game

[kwcat]

Not sure if this was talked about on another post but anyone know what the deal is with Bryce Grebe? Didn't see him play or on the bench.

pretty sure he was hurt in the Utah Tech game

Think he had a concussion. He was in street clothes for the whole game.

[tdub]

Why was Maine's coach so mad that he got a 15 yard unsportsmanlike penalty after his team got a first down on a fumbled snap?

He Thought the ref should have reset the play clock. After un-piling everyone from the fumble, the clock ran down quite a bit and Maine was forced to take a timeout.

And he absolutely should have. They stopped the clock to set the ball and see if it was a first. The play clock never reset even though it was under 25 when the ball was finally set and ready for play again. The referee should have pumped the play clock once the ball was set and decision on the first down made, and he didn't. The Maine coach had every right to be heated and the referee should have recognized his mistake and eaten that flag.

It wasn’t that he was letting the ref hear about it. He must’ve crossed the line with something he said because the ref went to his flag aggressively and didn’t hesitate when he pulled the trigger.

[AFCAT]

[ThoughtUKnew14]

2nd and 3rd stringers did not play well but finally got meaningful reps. Maine never took starters out. If you feel bad about this win, just remember it was 35-0 early in the 2nd quarter. I get practice is important but my eyes tell me Wilson is a gamer when the lights come on. I'm really hoping for a big third year move in his development in 2025. Reed...I just don't see his arm overcompensating for his lack of mobility.

Thought Maine's QB was a good player for what its worth.

Agree Wilson looked good, live and confident out there. Encouraging. No idea why they forced Reed to play so vanilla, though. Still tend to agree with folks who suspect our starting QB next year is probably not on our roster. Even though we don't throw a ton, we'd be a very tempting landing spot for some pretty good FBS QBs who want to play.

Puzzling that Vigen went to the deep backups as early as he did but it almost seemed like Maine was being sporting in not really pressing things time-wise to "make it a game" and force us to put the starters back in. Maine coach appreciated that we really could have embarrassed them and didn't Backup defense didn't look great, but they hung in there and improved.

Agree that Maine's QB was actually quite good. Was also very effective at getting away from several sack situations and throwing the ball away rather than making a stupid pass that would have been picked off.

Another game that felt a bit strange but a good win nonetheless. Hopefully we can get back some of our OL that have been injured.

Honest question. Why do you think MSU would be a “very tempting landing spot for some pretty good FBS QBs”

The handing the ball over 40 times a game. Limited passing plays or the running yourself into the ground year in/year out (ie injuries)…

[ThoughtUKnew14]

2nd and 3rd stringers did not play well but finally got meaningful reps. Maine never took starters out. If you feel bad about this win, just remember it was 35-0 early in the 2nd quarter. I get practice is important but my eyes tell me Wilson is a gamer when the lights come on. I'm really hoping for a big third year move in his development in 2025. Reed...I just don't see his arm overcompensating for his lack of mobility.

Thought Maine's QB was a good player for what its worth.

Wilson is only a redshirt freshman this year, correct? I definitely think he turns it up a notch when playing in meaningful competition. Not yet Tommy, however, may allow for the offense to be more in sync if Tommy does go down.

Yep. I think there's definitely an argument to be made that he could be the better option as the backup QB right now given his similar playing style to Tommy. I think Jordan Reed is a better QB right now but maybe not a better player to run the MSU offense as they want to run it.

That’s a very fair point. Also, I said it earlier, but their performance may stand out more when they are playing with the 1’s. Reed is a big guy and a big target. I’m sure he’d be happy playing with the starting offensive line for some added protection. Biggest difference between the two, Reed looked posed, but mechanical. Wilson was playing, and rightfully so, like he had nothing to lose and looked much more relaxed.

I feel like if you have two weeks to prepare for a game and know you won't have Tommy available, then Jordan is probably the guy. But if Tommy goes down hurt in a game and you need to put someone in immediately, then Chance is likely the better option. We all saw in the National Championship game a few years ago that replacing Tommy with a completely different type of QB with Tucker Rovig was not successful at all.

Solid take and I agree!

[allcat]

I gotta admit that Maine got a little bit more from the player swap than we did. Rohan only got 1 catch for 15. Jaharie got 8 carries for 29 yards. Even though Jaharie got more yards my guess is Rohan came out better on the trade.

[CodyCat]

2nd and 3rd stringers did not play well but finally got meaningful reps. Maine never took starters out. If you feel bad about this win, just remember it was 35-0 early in the 2nd quarter. I get practice is important but my eyes tell me Wilson is a gamer when the lights come on. I'm really hoping for a big third year move in his development in 2025. Reed...I just don't see his arm overcompensating for his lack of mobility.

Thought Maine's QB was a good player for what its worth.

Agree Wilson looked good, live and confident out there. Encouraging. No idea why they forced Reed to play so vanilla, though. Still tend to agree with folks who suspect our starting QB next year is probably not on our roster. Even though we don't throw a ton, we'd be a very tempting landing spot for some pretty good FBS QBs who want to play.

Puzzling that Vigen went to the deep backups as early as he did but it almost seemed like Maine was being sporting in not really pressing things time-wise to "make it a game" and force us to put the starters back in. Maine coach appreciated that we really could have embarrassed them and didn't Backup defense didn't look great, but they hung in there and improved.

Agree that Maine's QB was actually quite good. Was also very effective at getting away from several sack situations and throwing the ball away rather than making a stupid pass that would have been picked off.

Another game that felt a bit strange but a good win nonetheless. Hopefully we can get back some of our OL that have been injured.

Honest question. Why do you think MSU would be a “very tempting landing spot for some pretty good FBS QBs”

The handing the ball over 40 times a game. Limited passing plays or the running yourself into the ground year in/year out (ie injuries)…

Packed stadium, chance to win a title, championship culture, get to play in a great rivalry game, the list goes on and on.

If you dont think we pass the ball, you arent paying attention.

[Catsrgrood]

I gotta admit that Maine got a little bit more from the player swap than we did. Rohan only got 1 catch for 15. Jaharie got 8 carries for 29 yards. Even though Jaharie got more yards my guess is Rohan came out better on the trade.

Statistically for the one game, sure. But overall? No, MSU is coming out on top in that department.

[BelligerentBobcat]

I gotta admit that Maine got a little bit more from the player swap than we did. Rohan only got 1 catch for 15. Jaharie got 8 carries for 29 yards. Even though Jaharie got more yards my guess is Rohan came out better on the trade.

It’s almost like players do more than what shows up on the stat sheet.

[CelticCat]

2nd and 3rd stringers did not play well but finally got meaningful reps. Maine never took starters out. If you feel bad about this win, just remember it was 35-0 early in the 2nd quarter. I get practice is important but my eyes tell me Wilson is a gamer when the lights come on. I'm really hoping for a big third year move in his development in 2025. Reed...I just don't see his arm overcompensating for his lack of mobility.

Thought Maine's QB was a good player for what its worth.

Agree Wilson looked good, live and confident out there. Encouraging. No idea why they forced Reed to play so vanilla, though. Still tend to agree with folks who suspect our starting QB next year is probably not on our roster. Even though we don't throw a ton, we'd be a very tempting landing spot for some pretty good FBS QBs who want to play.

Puzzling that Vigen went to the deep backups as early as he did but it almost seemed like Maine was being sporting in not really pressing things time-wise to "make it a game" and force us to put the starters back in. Maine coach appreciated that we really could have embarrassed them and didn't Backup defense didn't look great, but they hung in there and improved.

Agree that Maine's QB was actually quite good. Was also very effective at getting away from several sack situations and throwing the ball away rather than making a stupid pass that would have been picked off.

Another game that felt a bit strange but a good win nonetheless. Hopefully we can get back some of our OL that have been injured.

The way I look at, there is actually a pretty large pool of QBs that fit the MSU mold - run first, make good decisions in the zone read/RPO game, and we don't ask a lot of them throwing the ball. There is no shortage of guys like Chris Murray.